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Heechee Saga #2
袟邪 褋懈薪懈屑 谐芯褉懈蟹芯薪褌芯屑 褋芯斜褘褌懈泄
In book two of the Heechee Saga that started with Gateway, Robinette Broadhead is on his way to making a fortune by bankrolling an expedition to the Food Factory--a Heechee spaceship that can graze the cometary cloud and transform the basic elements of the universe into untold quantities of food. But even as he gambles on the breakthrough technology, he is wracked with the guilt of losing his wife, poised forever at the "event horizon" of a black hole where Robin had abandoned her. As more and more information comes back from the expedition, Robin grows ever hopeful that he can rescue his beloved Gelle-Klara Moynlin. After three and a years, the factory is discovered to work, and a human is found aboard. Robin's suffering may be just about over...
384 pages, Hardcover
First published January 1, 1980
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Frederik Pohl
1,085听books1,034听followersFrederik George Pohl, Jr. was an American science fiction writer, editor and fan, with a career spanning over seventy years. From about 1959 until 1969, Pohl edited Galaxy magazine and its sister magazine IF winning the Hugo for IF three years in a row. His writing also won him three Hugos and multiple Nebula Awards. He became a Nebula Grand Master in 1993.
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September 5, 2016
Beyond the Blue Event Horizon was a solid sequel to Gateway. Frederik Pohl's engaging writing style makes it easy for the reader to get caught up in the stories of his characters even when those characters themselves are not the most likeable.
Robinette Broadhead struck it rich in his time as a Gateway prospector but is still suffering from the feelings of guilt at how his last mission ended. He no longer goes on Gateway missions himself but has sponsored many other adventurers. One such group is a family of four. Their mission is to fly to newly discovered Heechee outpost in the Oort Cloud and attempt to move it closer to Earth. Broadhead and other suspect it might have been a food making facility of some sort and hope it can be used to ease the resources plight on Earth.
The story was interesting. The Heechee still remain a bit of a mystery but their technology is still pretty cool and we do learn a few of their secrets in this one. The POV cast was a lot more diverse. We got viewpoints from Broadhead, all four members of the family he sent to space, from a human boy who was discovered living on the Heechee facility, and even from a non-human!
As with the first book the characters are far from perfect examples of humanity but most of the time you find yourself routing for them despite their actions.
This was a good sci-fi story. The Heechee Saga is definitely one of the better sci-fi series I've read over the years. It has the right balance between the characters and the harder sci-fi aspects of the story.
Rating: 4 stars.
Audio Note: Oliver Wyman gave a fantastic performance with the audio production.
Robinette Broadhead struck it rich in his time as a Gateway prospector but is still suffering from the feelings of guilt at how his last mission ended. He no longer goes on Gateway missions himself but has sponsored many other adventurers. One such group is a family of four. Their mission is to fly to newly discovered Heechee outpost in the Oort Cloud and attempt to move it closer to Earth. Broadhead and other suspect it might have been a food making facility of some sort and hope it can be used to ease the resources plight on Earth.
The story was interesting. The Heechee still remain a bit of a mystery but their technology is still pretty cool and we do learn a few of their secrets in this one. The POV cast was a lot more diverse. We got viewpoints from Broadhead, all four members of the family he sent to space, from a human boy who was discovered living on the Heechee facility, and even from a non-human!
As with the first book the characters are far from perfect examples of humanity but most of the time you find yourself routing for them despite their actions.
This was a good sci-fi story. The Heechee Saga is definitely one of the better sci-fi series I've read over the years. It has the right balance between the characters and the harder sci-fi aspects of the story.
Rating: 4 stars.
Audio Note: Oliver Wyman gave a fantastic performance with the audio production.
January 12, 2015
"The story begins when the hero of Gateway finances an expedition to a distant alien spaceship that may end famine forever. On the ship, the explorers find a human boy, and evidence that reveals a powerful alien civilization is thriving on a transport ship headed right for Earth鈥�"
Beyond the blue horizon
Waits a beautiful day.
Goodbye to things that bore me.
Joy is waiting for me.
I see a new horizon.
My life has only begun.
Beyond the blue horizon lies a rising sun.
(Beyond the Blue Horizon, Jeanette MacDonald)
I wonder if Frederick Pohl had these song lyrics in mind with the title of this book? Or whether he had any say in the title at all, a clever combination of the song title and the event horizon of a black hole, a consuming preoccupation of Robin Broadhead, the main protagonist.
I found myself fully engaged in this novel from the first few pages鈥攖rying to figure out what the heck was going on. I find that authors who engage my curiosity, rather than telling me too much, keep me reading more quickly and with more persistence. I really enjoyed the vagueness of the threat which Pohl used to keep the reader hooked鈥攏ot knowing exactly which details are significant or what exactly they mean. Who are the Dead Men? Are they really dead and if so, how do they carry on conversations? Who or what are the Old Ones? Are they really a threat to our intrepid explorers?
Of course, all of this is layered on top of the basic questions asked in the first novel, Gateway鈥攚ho or what are the Heechee, where did they go, and can we expect to find them?
There is rather a lot of theoretical physics discussed, in the guise of having a computer program explain it to Robin, our billionaire protagonist. Those sections drag a little bit, being barely disguised info dumps. Despite those chunky bits, this book carried me along very quickly.
My only disappointment was how quickly things resolved in the final chapters鈥攄etails that I would have liked to know were glossed over, steps were skipped in my opinion, some things tied up a little too neatly, others seemed neglected. I guess Pohl must have had a third book in mind and needed a platform on which to begin the next installment. I have many questions about what went on and where the characters go from here, so undoubtedly I will carry on to the next book in the series.
April 17, 2022
Uh!
Ova knjiga je na momente ODLCNA, originalne ideje preplicu se sa jos originalnijim karakterima, sto ljudskim sto vanzemaljskim. A opet sa druge strane Pol precesto podseca na Lema i na njegove naucne (i maksimalno dosadne) disertacije. Stoga 4 zvezdice ili neka sedmica na mnogo realnijoj skali.
Ova knjiga je na momente ODLCNA, originalne ideje preplicu se sa jos originalnijim karakterima, sto ljudskim sto vanzemaljskim. A opet sa druge strane Pol precesto podseca na Lema i na njegove naucne (i maksimalno dosadne) disertacije. Stoga 4 zvezdice ili neka sedmica na mnogo realnijoj skali.
November 10, 2016
En 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞, aprendimos que la humanidad ha dado un salto tecnol贸gico tan espectacular como fortuito gracias a los artefactos que una antigua y ya desaparecida civilizaci贸n alien铆gena 鈥攍os Heechee鈥� ha dejado a su paso por nuestro sistema solar. El 煤nico inconveniente es que la utilidad de estos hallazgos escapa por completo a nuestra comprensi贸n y su empleo conlleva una serie de riesgos que resultan letales en la mayor铆a de casos. No obstante, empujadas por las precarias condiciones en que se halla la Tierra (superpoblaci贸n, hambrunas, contaminaci贸n, inestabilidad econ贸mica, etc.), cada vez m谩s personas se embarcan en misiones suicidas a bordo de estas naves alien铆genas con la remota esperanza de realizar nuevos descubrimientos y llevarse un exorbitante bot铆n por ello.
Por haber sido el 煤nico superviviente de una expedici贸n cuyos miembros (entre ellos, su mujer) permanecen aislados del tiempo en el interior de un agujero negro, Robinette Broadhead ahora disfruta de una incontable fortuna. Gracias a ella decide financiar un proyecto que se dirige a la F谩brica Alimentaria, una nave Heechee que vaga perdida por el espacio y es capaz de transformar elementos sencillos en alimentos para el consumo, todo ello con la intenci贸n de erradicar para siempre el hambre en la Tierra. Sin embargo, al llegar all铆 los tripulantes de la nave enviada por Broadhead se topan con que la F谩brica Alimentaria se encuentra habitada por un adolescente delirante que asegura mantener contacto con otras formas de vida y que de vez en cuando provoca una especie de locura colectiva a trav茅s de sus sue帽os.
No es esta la 煤nica, pero s铆 quiz谩 la m谩s potente idea que sobrevuela las p谩ginas de Tras el incierto horizonte. Frederik Pohl reflexiona de manera magistral sobre los l铆mites del conocimiento y de c贸mo este, bajo manos inexpertas o inadecuadas, en realidad se convierte en una monumental fuente de (literales) quebraderos de cabeza. En su insaciable y desesperada b煤squeda de la verdad, de los secretos que esconde el universo, el ser humano no concibe la posibilidad de causar m谩s estragos que beneficios con sus acciones, y por eso ejecuta empresas tan ambiciosas como kamikazes sin calibrar correctamente las potenciales secuelas. El resultado, y de ello es buen ejemplo el protagonista, es un lastre de tit谩nicas proporciones que acarreamos bajo la apariencia de arrepentimiento y culpa. Por otra parte, los personajes de Frederik Pohl suelen manifestar sin motivo aparente una sexualidad sin ambages que puede incluso llegar a niveles retorcidos. El resto de la novela, hilvanada de manera sobresaliente a trav茅s de diversos puntos de vista, es pura especulaci贸n y sentido de la maravilla que empuja hasta sus 煤ltimas consecuencias los postulados del autor en materia de astrof铆sica, ingenier铆a o inteligencia artificial, sin perder nunca el tono divulgativo.
En l铆neas generales, Tras el incierto horizonte me ha parecido una novela igual de adictiva que su predecesora, una historia marcada por un ritmo trepidante y un aumento constante de la tensi贸n que ning煤n aficionado a la ciencia ficci贸n deber铆a perderse. Los personajes, aunque no son el foco de la obra, poseen una carga emocional bastante importante y rebosan el carisma propio de quien despacha a diestro y siniestro l铆neas memorables. Despu茅s del brillante y apote贸sico final que remata la obra, no puedo contener las ganas de hincarle el diente al siguiente volumen de la saga y averiguar por fin qu茅 m谩s sorprendentes descubrimientos sobre los Heechee nos tiene preparados el gran Frederik Pohl.
Por haber sido el 煤nico superviviente de una expedici贸n cuyos miembros (entre ellos, su mujer) permanecen aislados del tiempo en el interior de un agujero negro, Robinette Broadhead ahora disfruta de una incontable fortuna. Gracias a ella decide financiar un proyecto que se dirige a la F谩brica Alimentaria, una nave Heechee que vaga perdida por el espacio y es capaz de transformar elementos sencillos en alimentos para el consumo, todo ello con la intenci贸n de erradicar para siempre el hambre en la Tierra. Sin embargo, al llegar all铆 los tripulantes de la nave enviada por Broadhead se topan con que la F谩brica Alimentaria se encuentra habitada por un adolescente delirante que asegura mantener contacto con otras formas de vida y que de vez en cuando provoca una especie de locura colectiva a trav茅s de sus sue帽os.
No es esta la 煤nica, pero s铆 quiz谩 la m谩s potente idea que sobrevuela las p谩ginas de Tras el incierto horizonte. Frederik Pohl reflexiona de manera magistral sobre los l铆mites del conocimiento y de c贸mo este, bajo manos inexpertas o inadecuadas, en realidad se convierte en una monumental fuente de (literales) quebraderos de cabeza. En su insaciable y desesperada b煤squeda de la verdad, de los secretos que esconde el universo, el ser humano no concibe la posibilidad de causar m谩s estragos que beneficios con sus acciones, y por eso ejecuta empresas tan ambiciosas como kamikazes sin calibrar correctamente las potenciales secuelas. El resultado, y de ello es buen ejemplo el protagonista, es un lastre de tit谩nicas proporciones que acarreamos bajo la apariencia de arrepentimiento y culpa. Por otra parte, los personajes de Frederik Pohl suelen manifestar sin motivo aparente una sexualidad sin ambages que puede incluso llegar a niveles retorcidos. El resto de la novela, hilvanada de manera sobresaliente a trav茅s de diversos puntos de vista, es pura especulaci贸n y sentido de la maravilla que empuja hasta sus 煤ltimas consecuencias los postulados del autor en materia de astrof铆sica, ingenier铆a o inteligencia artificial, sin perder nunca el tono divulgativo.
En l铆neas generales, Tras el incierto horizonte me ha parecido una novela igual de adictiva que su predecesora, una historia marcada por un ritmo trepidante y un aumento constante de la tensi贸n que ning煤n aficionado a la ciencia ficci贸n deber铆a perderse. Los personajes, aunque no son el foco de la obra, poseen una carga emocional bastante importante y rebosan el carisma propio de quien despacha a diestro y siniestro l铆neas memorables. Despu茅s del brillante y apote贸sico final que remata la obra, no puedo contener las ganas de hincarle el diente al siguiente volumen de la saga y averiguar por fin qu茅 m谩s sorprendentes descubrimientos sobre los Heechee nos tiene preparados el gran Frederik Pohl.
November 25, 2024
Check out my full, spoiler free, series review
Pohl shifts gears a bit on the sequel to Gateway. We start with a small family/crew on a mission to a Heechee food factory, as they run across a child of mysterious origin. Later we find out Rob is still around and helped finance this mission. And that鈥檚 all I want to say about the plot. I really enjoyed this sequel, even though we don鈥檛 get a resolution to the ending of Gateway yet. This book actually opens up more mystery of the Heechee and the fate Rob. Loved it, on to book 3.
Pohl shifts gears a bit on the sequel to Gateway. We start with a small family/crew on a mission to a Heechee food factory, as they run across a child of mysterious origin. Later we find out Rob is still around and helped finance this mission. And that鈥檚 all I want to say about the plot. I really enjoyed this sequel, even though we don鈥檛 get a resolution to the ending of Gateway yet. This book actually opens up more mystery of the Heechee and the fate Rob. Loved it, on to book 3.
February 5, 2016
Totally loved it!!
Lots of questions from Gateway are answered here, but in the end you have a lot a brand new ones - I'm looking forward to find out more about Heechee.
P.S. Glad to see that Rob has become a much more likeable and mature character.
Lots of questions from Gateway are answered here, but in the end you have a lot a brand new ones - I'm looking forward to find out more about Heechee.
P.S. Glad to see that Rob has become a much more likeable and mature character.
May 15, 2019
I do not understand the high reviews for this book. The little I was able to stomach was so unlike the interesting story of the first book in the series. There was creepy sexualization of children/underage characters, including incestuously themed situations between an adult and a child. There was inconsistent/illogical writing of said young characters even though at least one was supposed to be brilliant enough to be chosen for a space exploratory mission. There was a "fever" that conveniently caused both extreme pain and...a desire for orgies. There was sexual harassment in the form of a kid masturbating in front of people without consent, and a scene where a young boy had a conversation with a ghost about why he couldn't rape people (the answer was that there was a 60% chance it wouldn't be a pleasant experience for him).
So yeah. The little of this book I read was disturbing, disgusting, and bizarre. I wish I had stopped reading sooner.
So yeah. The little of this book I read was disturbing, disgusting, and bizarre. I wish I had stopped reading sooner.
August 24, 2020
Bajban vagyok ezzel a k枚nyvvel.
Az茅rt, mert az 脕tj谩r贸nak egy hasonl贸 st铆lus煤 vagy keret疟 folytat谩s谩ra sz谩m铆tottam, de a kapott olvasm谩ny茅lm茅ny nagyon szembement a v谩rakoz谩saimmal.
Az els艖 szembet疟n艖 k眉l枚nbs茅g, hogy a narr谩torok megv谩ltoztak. Legal谩bb f茅l tucat elbesz茅l艖 szem茅n kereszt眉l l谩tjuk a t枚rt茅netet, ami 枚nmag谩ban nem lenne gond, de egyes elbesz茅l艖ket az 铆r贸 k茅s艖bb egyszer疟en 鈥瀍lenged鈥�, 茅s t枚bbet nem l谩tunk a fej眉kbe. (Ilyen volt pl. Wan, a k枚nyv elej茅n m茅g szorgalmas narr谩tor, m铆g az utols贸 harmad谩ban m谩r nincs egyetlen fejezete sem). 脡n r谩eresztettem volna a k枚nyv szerkezet茅re egy balt谩val dolgoz贸 szerkeszt艖t, 茅s a v茅geredm茅ny megfarag谩s谩t b铆ztam volna az 铆r贸ra.
Tal谩n ennek k枚vetkezm茅nye, hogy a cselekm茅ny helyenk茅nt sz茅tesik. Az nyomon k枚vethet艖 ut贸lag, hogy tart valahonnan valahov谩, viszont olvas谩s k枚zben gyakran 茅reztem 煤gy, hogy most feleslegesen diskur谩lnak a szerepl艖k, vagy 茅ppen olyasmit csin谩lnak, aminek semmi 茅rtelme. Ez a reg茅ny v茅gezt茅vel szerencs茅re sokat tompult, 茅s l谩that贸, hogy az eg茅sz t枚rt茅net sokkal nagyobb perspekt铆v谩t kapott.
Amit nagyon hi谩nyoltam bel艖le, az az els艖 r茅sz 脕tj谩r贸-hangulata. N茅ha ebb艖l fel-felvillant valamit a szerz艖, f艖leg akkor, amikor a szerepl艖k egy ismeretlen h铆cs铆 objektumot der铆tenek fel, de gyorsan el is m煤lik. K谩r, mert az els艖 r茅sznek is ez adta a meg a saj谩tos 铆z茅t.
A t枚rt茅net szerepl艖i egy茅bk茅nt csetl艖-botl贸 emberek, 茅s mindenkinek megvan a maga agybaja, m茅g a kurt谩n-furcs谩n el艖r谩ntott gonosz szerepl艖re sem lehetett igaz谩n haragudni, f艖leg az茅rt nem, mert az 艖 szerepe mind枚ssze annyi lett, hogy Broadheadnek lehet艖s茅get adjon a szem茅lyes beavatkoz谩sa. SPOILER. Kiv茅tel tal谩n Essie teljesen pap铆rmas茅 figur谩ja, aki t眉kr枚zi azt, ahogy a szerz艖 az odaad贸 kelet-eur贸pai n艖t铆pust elk茅pzeli.
Sz贸val sok helyen ereszt sz谩momra ez a k枚nyv, mintha ragtapasszal akarn谩nk megoldani egy l茅ket kapott haj贸 probl茅m谩j谩t, 茅s 艖szint茅n elgondolkodtatott arr贸l, hogy akarom-e olvasni a folytat谩st.
Az茅rt, mert az 脕tj谩r贸nak egy hasonl贸 st铆lus煤 vagy keret疟 folytat谩s谩ra sz谩m铆tottam, de a kapott olvasm谩ny茅lm茅ny nagyon szembement a v谩rakoz谩saimmal.
Az els艖 szembet疟n艖 k眉l枚nbs茅g, hogy a narr谩torok megv谩ltoztak. Legal谩bb f茅l tucat elbesz茅l艖 szem茅n kereszt眉l l谩tjuk a t枚rt茅netet, ami 枚nmag谩ban nem lenne gond, de egyes elbesz茅l艖ket az 铆r贸 k茅s艖bb egyszer疟en 鈥瀍lenged鈥�, 茅s t枚bbet nem l谩tunk a fej眉kbe. (Ilyen volt pl. Wan, a k枚nyv elej茅n m茅g szorgalmas narr谩tor, m铆g az utols贸 harmad谩ban m谩r nincs egyetlen fejezete sem). 脡n r谩eresztettem volna a k枚nyv szerkezet茅re egy balt谩val dolgoz贸 szerkeszt艖t, 茅s a v茅geredm茅ny megfarag谩s谩t b铆ztam volna az 铆r贸ra.
Tal谩n ennek k枚vetkezm茅nye, hogy a cselekm茅ny helyenk茅nt sz茅tesik. Az nyomon k枚vethet艖 ut贸lag, hogy tart valahonnan valahov谩, viszont olvas谩s k枚zben gyakran 茅reztem 煤gy, hogy most feleslegesen diskur谩lnak a szerepl艖k, vagy 茅ppen olyasmit csin谩lnak, aminek semmi 茅rtelme. Ez a reg茅ny v茅gezt茅vel szerencs茅re sokat tompult, 茅s l谩that贸, hogy az eg茅sz t枚rt茅net sokkal nagyobb perspekt铆v谩t kapott.
Amit nagyon hi谩nyoltam bel艖le, az az els艖 r茅sz 脕tj谩r贸-hangulata. N茅ha ebb艖l fel-felvillant valamit a szerz艖, f艖leg akkor, amikor a szerepl艖k egy ismeretlen h铆cs铆 objektumot der铆tenek fel, de gyorsan el is m煤lik. K谩r, mert az els艖 r茅sznek is ez adta a meg a saj谩tos 铆z茅t.
A t枚rt茅net szerepl艖i egy茅bk茅nt csetl艖-botl贸 emberek, 茅s mindenkinek megvan a maga agybaja, m茅g a kurt谩n-furcs谩n el艖r谩ntott gonosz szerepl艖re sem lehetett igaz谩n haragudni, f艖leg az茅rt nem, mert az 艖 szerepe mind枚ssze annyi lett, hogy Broadheadnek lehet艖s茅get adjon a szem茅lyes beavatkoz谩sa. SPOILER. Kiv茅tel tal谩n Essie teljesen pap铆rmas茅 figur谩ja, aki t眉kr枚zi azt, ahogy a szerz艖 az odaad贸 kelet-eur贸pai n艖t铆pust elk茅pzeli.
Sz贸val sok helyen ereszt sz谩momra ez a k枚nyv, mintha ragtapasszal akarn谩nk megoldani egy l茅ket kapott haj贸 probl茅m谩j谩t, 茅s 艖szint茅n elgondolkodtatott arr贸l, hogy akarom-e olvasni a folytat谩st.
July 30, 2012
Not nearly the equivalent of Gateway but that would be like asking Ken Jennings to win 74 Jeopardy games in a row. Oh Yeah. He did that.
Speaking of Jeopardy, back in the 80's I was browsing through the credits of the TV game show and noticed that one of the show writers was Frederik Pohl. "OMG" I thought, (I didn't actually think "OMG!". The internet was still in its infantry and so was internet speak) "He's writing questions on a game show now! I knew Sci-fi writers didn't make much money but Damn!". A year later I went to a Jeopardy taping as a friend of mine qualified as a contestant for the game show. I asked If I could meet Mr. Pohl and a man substantially younger than me (I was in my thirties) introduced himself. It was, of course, Pohl's son. We did have a nice but brief conversation.
OK, I'm done.
Speaking of Jeopardy, back in the 80's I was browsing through the credits of the TV game show and noticed that one of the show writers was Frederik Pohl. "OMG" I thought, (I didn't actually think "OMG!". The internet was still in its infantry and so was internet speak) "He's writing questions on a game show now! I knew Sci-fi writers didn't make much money but Damn!". A year later I went to a Jeopardy taping as a friend of mine qualified as a contestant for the game show. I asked If I could meet Mr. Pohl and a man substantially younger than me (I was in my thirties) introduced himself. It was, of course, Pohl's son. We did have a nice but brief conversation.
OK, I'm done.
November 14, 2014
-鈥湵拭嘲倬背Υ氢€� no deber铆a haber tenido secuelas para pasar a la historia como una novela todav铆a m谩s grande de lo que ya es.-
G茅nero. Ciencia-Ficci贸n.
Lo que nos cuenta. Robinette Broadhead es un hombre potentado con unas inversiones muy s贸lidas pero sigue abierto a enriquecer su fortuna y, en el fondo, sigue amando a Klara y su recuerdo no le abandona. Cuando decide financiar una expedici贸n a la Factor铆a Alimentaria heechee situada en la nube de Oort, desencadena una serie de acontecimientos de consecuencias important铆simas. Segundo libro de la saga de los Heechees.
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G茅nero. Ciencia-Ficci贸n.
Lo que nos cuenta. Robinette Broadhead es un hombre potentado con unas inversiones muy s贸lidas pero sigue abierto a enriquecer su fortuna y, en el fondo, sigue amando a Klara y su recuerdo no le abandona. Cuando decide financiar una expedici贸n a la Factor铆a Alimentaria heechee situada en la nube de Oort, desencadena una serie de acontecimientos de consecuencias important铆simas. Segundo libro de la saga de los Heechees.
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October 26, 2019
(沤evraj moja st谩 kniha tento rok, aj ke膹 bohvie, od leta si to tu trackujem dos钮 ledabolo, ale ako啪e teda hur谩.)
K meritu veci: star茅 dobr茅 hard sci-fi, mimozem拧钮ania a 膷ierne diery, ja som spokojn谩.
K meritu veci: star茅 dobr茅 hard sci-fi, mimozem拧钮ania a 膷ierne diery, ja som spokojn谩.
April 16, 2021
This is one of those literary rarities, a sequel to a very successful and popular work that lives up to (and possibly surpasses) the original volume... in this case Gateway, Pohl's best known novel. He embraces the sense-of-wonder flavor of classic big-concept science fiction (the vastness and grandeur of the universe, the cosmic sweep of time and space), mixes it with the mystery of ancient vanished alien's and near-magic technology, and presents it all within the character-driven framework of the best of New Wave inner-space speculation. Though it may not hold up quite as well as Gateway, I think it was more ambitious.
August 25, 2017
Ha sido casi tan bueno como 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞, los 煤ltimos cap铆tulos del libro se vuelven emocionantes y termin茅 d谩ndole un 4.
Robin, ahora millonario por los eventos ocurridos en el primer libro, financia una expedici贸n a una nave Heechee que funciona como una Factor铆a Alimentaria. En este segundo libro se dan a conocer nuevas cosas sobre los Heechees y tambi茅n sobre los motivos por los que Robin inici贸 la expedici贸n en primera instancia. Es, sin duda, un gran libro. Pohl es un maestro de la ciencia ficci贸n.
Esta imagen parece ser el interior de una nave Heechee con ese azul tan caracter铆stico.
Imagen creada por Vidom
Robin, ahora millonario por los eventos ocurridos en el primer libro, financia una expedici贸n a una nave Heechee que funciona como una Factor铆a Alimentaria. En este segundo libro se dan a conocer nuevas cosas sobre los Heechees y tambi茅n sobre los motivos por los que Robin inici贸 la expedici贸n en primera instancia. Es, sin duda, un gran libro. Pohl es un maestro de la ciencia ficci贸n.
Esta imagen parece ser el interior de una nave Heechee con ese azul tan caracter铆stico.
Imagen creada por Vidom
January 17, 2023
孝芯胁邪 斜械褕械 械写薪芯 褋褌褉邪褏芯褌薪芯 薪邪褔邪谢芯 薪邪 泻薪懈卸薪邪褌邪 屑懈 谐芯写懈薪邪! 袙褌芯褉邪褌邪 褔邪褋褌 薪邪 袚械泄褌褍械泄 斜械褕械 褌芯褔薪芯 褌芯胁邪, 薪邪 泻芯械褌芯 褋械 薪邪写褟胁邪褏 - 蟹邪写褗谢斜芯褔械薪 邪薪邪谢懈蟹 薪邪 邪褋褌褉芯薪芯屑懈褔械褋泻懈 蟹邪斜械谢械卸懈褌械谢薪芯褋褌懈, 屑械卸写褍谢懈褔薪芯褋褌薪懈 芯褋芯斜械薪芯褋褌懈, 屑懈褋褌懈泻邪, 褋褗褋锌械薪褋, 锌褉械泻褉邪褋械薪 泻褉邪泄, 薪芯 懈 写芯褋褌邪褌褗褔薪芯 蟹邪锌谢械薪褟胁邪褖邪 芯褋薪芯胁邪, 泻芯褟褌芯 写邪 褌械 芯褌胁械写械 写芯 褋褉械写邪褌邪 薪邪 袙褋械谢械薪邪褌邪!
袚谢邪胁薪懈褟褌 薪懈 锌芯蟹薪邪褌 谐械褉芯泄 袪芯斜懈薪械褌 袘褉芯写褏械写 芯褌薪芯胁芯 械 薪邪 褉褗斜邪 薪邪 褌芯褌邪谢械薪 斜邪薪泻褉褍褌, 锌谢褞褋 锌芯褋褌芯褟薪薪懈褌械 屑褍 褌褉械胁芯谐懈 懈 褎褍褌褍褉懈褋褌懈褔薪懈 懈写械懈 胁懈褌邪械褖懈 薪邪胁褋褟泻褗写械, 芯褌薪芯胁芯 薪懈 锌芯褌邪锌褟 胁 锌褗褋褌褉懈褟 褋懈 褋胁褟褌, 褌芯蟹懈 锌褗褌 锌褉懈写褉褍卸械薪 芯褌 锌褉懈褟褌薪邪褌邪 泻芯屑锌邪薪懈褟 薪邪 袝褋懈, 褍屑薪邪 懈 泻褉邪褋懈胁邪 褋褗锌褉褍谐邪, 褋褗蟹写邪褌械谢泻邪 薪邪 锌褉芯谐褉邪屑懈 褔褉械蟹 懈蟹泻褍褋褌胁械薪 懈薪褌械谢械泻褌.
袨褌 褌褍泻 胁械写薪邪谐邪 褋械 屑褟褌邪屑 薪邪 谢褞斜懈屑懈褌械 屑懈 谐械褉芯懈, 泻芯懈褌芯 芯褋胁械薪 袝褋懈, 斜懈褏 褋锌芯屑械薪邪谢邪 袗谢斜械褉褌 袗泄薪褖邪泄薪, 褋褌褉邪褏芯褌薪邪 锌褉芯谐褉邪屑邪 褋褗蟹写邪写械薪邪 写邪 锌芯屑邪谐邪 薪邪 袪芯斜, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 袛卸邪薪械褌, 械写懈薪 芯褌 锌邪褋邪卸械褉懈褌械 懈蟹锌褉邪褌械薪懈 泻褗屑 啸懈褔懈褟薪褋泻懈褟 褉邪泄. 小褌褉邪褏芯褌薪芯 锌芯褋褌褉芯械薪芯 锌褉芯写褗谢卸械薪懈械 薪邪 懈褋褌芯褉懈褟褌邪, 泻芯褟褌芯 械胁械薪褌褍邪谢薪芯 褖械 薪懈 褉邪蟹泻褉懈械 薪械胁械褉芯褟褌薪懈褟 褋胁褟褌 薪邪 啸懈褔懈褟薪褑懈褌械...泻邪泻褌芯 懈 屑薪芯谐芯 写褉褍谐懈 薪邪褍褔薪芯锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪懈 褎邪泻褌懈 蟹邪 泻芯褋屑懈褔械褋泻懈褌械 褎械薪芯屑械薪懈, 懈 褔芯胁械褕泻懈褌械 芯褌薪芯褕械薪懈褟.
袚谢邪胁薪懈褟褌 薪懈 锌芯蟹薪邪褌 谐械褉芯泄 袪芯斜懈薪械褌 袘褉芯写褏械写 芯褌薪芯胁芯 械 薪邪 褉褗斜邪 薪邪 褌芯褌邪谢械薪 斜邪薪泻褉褍褌, 锌谢褞褋 锌芯褋褌芯褟薪薪懈褌械 屑褍 褌褉械胁芯谐懈 懈 褎褍褌褍褉懈褋褌懈褔薪懈 懈写械懈 胁懈褌邪械褖懈 薪邪胁褋褟泻褗写械, 芯褌薪芯胁芯 薪懈 锌芯褌邪锌褟 胁 锌褗褋褌褉懈褟 褋懈 褋胁褟褌, 褌芯蟹懈 锌褗褌 锌褉懈写褉褍卸械薪 芯褌 锌褉懈褟褌薪邪褌邪 泻芯屑锌邪薪懈褟 薪邪 袝褋懈, 褍屑薪邪 懈 泻褉邪褋懈胁邪 褋褗锌褉褍谐邪, 褋褗蟹写邪褌械谢泻邪 薪邪 锌褉芯谐褉邪屑懈 褔褉械蟹 懈蟹泻褍褋褌胁械薪 懈薪褌械谢械泻褌.
袨褌 褌褍泻 胁械写薪邪谐邪 褋械 屑褟褌邪屑 薪邪 谢褞斜懈屑懈褌械 屑懈 谐械褉芯懈, 泻芯懈褌芯 芯褋胁械薪 袝褋懈, 斜懈褏 褋锌芯屑械薪邪谢邪 袗谢斜械褉褌 袗泄薪褖邪泄薪, 褋褌褉邪褏芯褌薪邪 锌褉芯谐褉邪屑邪 褋褗蟹写邪写械薪邪 写邪 锌芯屑邪谐邪 薪邪 袪芯斜, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 袛卸邪薪械褌, 械写懈薪 芯褌 锌邪褋邪卸械褉懈褌械 懈蟹锌褉邪褌械薪懈 泻褗屑 啸懈褔懈褟薪褋泻懈褟 褉邪泄. 小褌褉邪褏芯褌薪芯 锌芯褋褌褉芯械薪芯 锌褉芯写褗谢卸械薪懈械 薪邪 懈褋褌芯褉懈褟褌邪, 泻芯褟褌芯 械胁械薪褌褍邪谢薪芯 褖械 薪懈 褉邪蟹泻褉懈械 薪械胁械褉芯褟褌薪懈褟 褋胁褟褌 薪邪 啸懈褔懈褟薪褑懈褌械...泻邪泻褌芯 懈 屑薪芯谐芯 写褉褍谐懈 薪邪褍褔薪芯锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪懈 褎邪泻褌懈 蟹邪 泻芯褋屑懈褔械褋泻懈褌械 褎械薪芯屑械薪懈, 懈 褔芯胁械褕泻懈褌械 芯褌薪芯褕械薪懈褟.
June 8, 2024
Pretty sure I never read this as a kid, which is crazy, because I loved the first. In any event, I should have, because it's every bit as good as the first book. Will definitely read the rest!
July 25, 2023
In short: 馃ぎ
A little longer: Pessimism, capitalism, entitlement, adults having sex with children, children having sex with children 馃槺馃槰馃あ馃ぎ
Much longer: The book starts half way into an 8-year-long mission in space to find an alien food factory. The crew consists of two adults, an old geezer, and a child. They are a family, a very weird family.
The old geezer Peter was a member of the Hitler youth when he was young. Because of course he was, he's German! I don't know how that is supposed to fit into the time line of Gateway ... but ... he was a Nazi ... and maybe still is?
The 14-year-old girl-astronaut Janine is Lurvy's sister and horny for Lurvy's husband Paul. I am not sure if this is incest, technically, but it is wrong on soooooo many levels. And, as if our constantly horny 14-year-old Janine wasn't gross enough, you have to remember that she started the voyage as a horny 11-year-old! W-T-F?!?!
All of the adults care about one thing: Money 馃馃馃 OK, sex is in there somewhere, but money is priority #1. One can have different opinions about capitalism, but when any possible question about a character's motivation can be answered with "Because ... MONEY!!!", things get boring. PAINFULLY BOOOOOOOORING!
The four of them enter the ominous food factory that is supposed to rescue a starving earth ... *ahem* ... make them rich as fuck. They meet the 15-year-old boy Wan. Like most children in Pohl's universe, he only thinks about sex. When Wan meets Janine, the first female human he gets to meet in person, he ... masturbates in front of her. The only positive thing to say here is "At least he didn't rape Janine" ... because a dead man told him there is a chance Janine would ruin his orgasm ... because most women don't like to get raped. He also ejaculates spontaneously when talking to Janine.
It can't get any more gross than this, can it?!
Oh my, it can. Later in the book, 15-year-old Wan is forced to "breed" with Janine's sister.
14-year-old Janine gets forced to experience "virtual reality sex", old breeding experiments conducted by the Heechees. Apparently some of that was pretty horrible to live through. And what did she learn from all this? It made her horny for Wan and they "breed" immediately! 馃あ馃ぎ馃ぎ
Does goodreads censor explicit content? It feels so weird writing these lines. What I describe is actual content of the book! Pohl had these disgusting and sickening thoughts and put them in writing for everyone to see!
I don't know if Pohl tried to be funny. But a grown man fantasizing about children in an explicit sexual way is not my kind of humor.
Well, at least we also get to see an old acquaintance again: Robinette. He exchanged Sigfrid for Einstein. His crippling guilt did not prevent him from building his very own Broadhead empire. I can't imagine how he did it. Robinette is as "likable and intelligent" as ever.
He is filthy rich, and his only motivation is ... money ... more money. Did I mention that "money" is a terribly boring motivation for any character? At one point, he (Pohl) actually tells the reader that even actions that might look selfless, like protecting the environment, are financially motivated.
Sometimes it seems as if Bobbyrobby also cares about his wife and the girlfriend he abused violently and then left "in" a black hole. But then we find out that it is really about him and how he can cope without too much trouble.
Robinette, like all of Pohl's adults, is terribly stupid and/or lazy. Einstein and Sigfrid do _all_ the thinking. Everyone seems to feel entitled without any reason. And, they are all pessimists and spend a lot of time thinking about what could go wrong and kill them.
Wow, Pohl did not manage to invent a single character that I would not punch in the face, had I the chance to meet them in real life. Yes, I would even punch the children, Janine and Wan! I have a suspicion that Pohl shared traits with his characters: Feeling entitled, being greedy, being horny, and being pessimistic. And just for the repeated description of child sex and abuse, I would punch Pohl in the face, was he still alive today. Really hard. Harder than Robinette punched his girlfriend in the previous book. Much harder!
A little longer: Pessimism, capitalism, entitlement, adults having sex with children, children having sex with children 馃槺馃槰馃あ馃ぎ
Much longer: The book starts half way into an 8-year-long mission in space to find an alien food factory. The crew consists of two adults, an old geezer, and a child. They are a family, a very weird family.
The old geezer Peter was a member of the Hitler youth when he was young. Because of course he was, he's German! I don't know how that is supposed to fit into the time line of Gateway ... but ... he was a Nazi ... and maybe still is?
The 14-year-old girl-astronaut Janine is Lurvy's sister and horny for Lurvy's husband Paul. I am not sure if this is incest, technically, but it is wrong on soooooo many levels. And, as if our constantly horny 14-year-old Janine wasn't gross enough, you have to remember that she started the voyage as a horny 11-year-old! W-T-F?!?!
All of the adults care about one thing: Money 馃馃馃 OK, sex is in there somewhere, but money is priority #1. One can have different opinions about capitalism, but when any possible question about a character's motivation can be answered with "Because ... MONEY!!!", things get boring. PAINFULLY BOOOOOOOORING!
The four of them enter the ominous food factory that is supposed to rescue a starving earth ... *ahem* ... make them rich as fuck. They meet the 15-year-old boy Wan. Like most children in Pohl's universe, he only thinks about sex. When Wan meets Janine, the first female human he gets to meet in person, he ... masturbates in front of her. The only positive thing to say here is "At least he didn't rape Janine" ... because a dead man told him there is a chance Janine would ruin his orgasm ... because most women don't like to get raped. He also ejaculates spontaneously when talking to Janine.
It can't get any more gross than this, can it?!
Oh my, it can. Later in the book, 15-year-old Wan is forced to "breed" with Janine's sister.
14-year-old Janine gets forced to experience "virtual reality sex", old breeding experiments conducted by the Heechees. Apparently some of that was pretty horrible to live through. And what did she learn from all this? It made her horny for Wan and they "breed" immediately! 馃あ馃ぎ馃ぎ
Does goodreads censor explicit content? It feels so weird writing these lines. What I describe is actual content of the book! Pohl had these disgusting and sickening thoughts and put them in writing for everyone to see!
I don't know if Pohl tried to be funny. But a grown man fantasizing about children in an explicit sexual way is not my kind of humor.
Well, at least we also get to see an old acquaintance again: Robinette. He exchanged Sigfrid for Einstein. His crippling guilt did not prevent him from building his very own Broadhead empire. I can't imagine how he did it. Robinette is as "likable and intelligent" as ever.
He is filthy rich, and his only motivation is ... money ... more money. Did I mention that "money" is a terribly boring motivation for any character? At one point, he (Pohl) actually tells the reader that even actions that might look selfless, like protecting the environment, are financially motivated.
Sometimes it seems as if Bobbyrobby also cares about his wife and the girlfriend he abused violently and then left "in" a black hole. But then we find out that it is really about him and how he can cope without too much trouble.
Robinette, like all of Pohl's adults, is terribly stupid and/or lazy. Einstein and Sigfrid do _all_ the thinking. Everyone seems to feel entitled without any reason. And, they are all pessimists and spend a lot of time thinking about what could go wrong and kill them.
Wow, Pohl did not manage to invent a single character that I would not punch in the face, had I the chance to meet them in real life. Yes, I would even punch the children, Janine and Wan! I have a suspicion that Pohl shared traits with his characters: Feeling entitled, being greedy, being horny, and being pessimistic. And just for the repeated description of child sex and abuse, I would punch Pohl in the face, was he still alive today. Really hard. Harder than Robinette punched his girlfriend in the previous book. Much harder!
August 2, 2015
Es muy dif铆cil hacer una continuaci贸n de una gran libro como es 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞, pero Frederik Pohl hace un digno trabajo en esta segunda parte. Contin煤a con las tesis principales que plantea en el primer tomo y gracias a que el punto de vista va cambiando nos permite conocer m谩s detalles de los Heechee y de su tecnolog铆a. Tambi茅n sabemos m谩s sobre el protagonista, quien tiene una evoluci贸n del primer al segundo libro muy interesante.
Y el elemento estrella vuelve a ser los programas inform谩ticos que ayudan al protagonista en su vida diaria. Al igual que en 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 conocimos a una especie de Sigmund Freud que le psicoanalizaba; aqu铆 conocemos a la copia de Albert Einsten, su asesor personal que permite a Robin, y al lector, conocer todos los detalles necesarios para seguir avanzando en la trama.
Y el elemento estrella vuelve a ser los programas inform谩ticos que ayudan al protagonista en su vida diaria. Al igual que en 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 conocimos a una especie de Sigmund Freud que le psicoanalizaba; aqu铆 conocemos a la copia de Albert Einsten, su asesor personal que permite a Robin, y al lector, conocer todos los detalles necesarios para seguir avanzando en la trama.
December 26, 2023
This was a great sequel to the classic in which we learn more about the Heechee without actually meeting them. Robinette is still a wacky protagonist, both charming and annoying. He and his AI-pal Albert exploit the Food Factory and Heechee Heaven to benefit mankind (but especially to Robin's benefit). We are given some more background on the Heechee's and (here it becomes suspiciously close to the story in The Expanse) what they were fleeing when they left all their artifacts all over the Solar System and beyond. We are also introduced to Wan, the strange adolescent they meet in the Food Factory.
The outdated sexism/pedo fantasy aspect of the book (the oversexed 14-year-old) fortunately is forgotten once we meet Wan, otherwise, I would have enjoyed this far less. I thought there were moments that Pohl was seeing far beyond his time, particularly when describing the AI constructs of Albert and Sigmund.
A great book and worth the read!
The outdated sexism/pedo fantasy aspect of the book (the oversexed 14-year-old) fortunately is forgotten once we meet Wan, otherwise, I would have enjoyed this far less. I thought there were moments that Pohl was seeing far beyond his time, particularly when describing the AI constructs of Albert and Sigmund.
A great book and worth the read!
June 18, 2015
Given the riotous success of , I was surprised at how difficult it was to get a copy of this, the sequel (it's basically out of print).
Having found a second-hand copy, the reason became clear: this book is a feeble shadow of its predecessor. Terribly disappointing, avoid.
Having found a second-hand copy, the reason became clear: this book is a feeble shadow of its predecessor. Terribly disappointing, avoid.
July 7, 2015
review of
Frederik Pohl's Beyond the Blue Event Horizon
by tENTATIVELY, a cONVENIENCE - July 6, 2015
I read Pohl's Gateway 1st in this Heechee Saga. My review's here: . I'm somewhat surprised to see that I read it 3 yrs ago. That's one of those time-flies-when-you're-not-having-fun-just-getting-older thingies. Skimming over my Gateway review I think I was more impressed by that one than I was by this sequel - wch isn't to say that I thought this was 'bad', it just didn't seem quite as inspired.
One idea that caught my fancy is that of "Gosh numbers":
"Gosh numbers are numbers which represent more than one quantity, so that when you perceive the coincidence you say, 'Gosh.'" - p 45
"鈥淧h, well,鈥� said the Dead Man gloomily, 鈥渁ll right. Point-five degrees is the angular diameter of both the sun and the Moon as seen from Earth. Gosh! How strange that they should be the same, but also how useful, because it is partly because of this coincidence that Earth has eclipses. Minus-forty degrees is the temperature which is the same in both Fahrenheit and Celsius scales. Gosh. Two thousand twenty-five is the sum of the cubes of the integers, one cubed plus two cubed plus three cubed and so on up to nine cubed, all added together. It is also the square of their sum. Gosh.["]" - p 45
""One. The quantities Tiny Jim referred to as 'gosh numbers'. These are numerical quantities, mostly of the sort called 'dimensionless' because they are the same in any units you measure. The mass ratio between the electron and the proton. The Dirac number to express the difference between electromagnetic and gravitational force. The Eddington fine-structure constant. And so forth. We know these numbers to great precision. What we do not know is why they are what they are. Why shouldn't the fine-structure constant be, say, 150 instead of 137-plus? If we understoood astrophysics鈥攊f we had a complete theory鈥攚e should be able to deduce these numbers from that theory.["]" - p 289
SO, of course, I had to do at least some cursory research on Gosh Numbers wch led me to: where Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is discussed & quoted & then this follows:
"Well, that was a rather lengthy introduction, so I will not delay any further the first Gosh Number:
"1729
"1729 is the least number expressible as the sum of 2 cubes in two different ways:
"1729 = 123 + 13 = 103 + 93
"1729 is also the 3rd Carmichael number
"1729 is also a centered cube number, a dodecagonal number, a 24-gonal and 84-gonal number. The creators of the television cartoon Futurama thought so much of 1729 that they included it within the show on several occasions.
"GOSH!!"
The author of the above is one Steven Pomeroy.
One of the Heechee artifacts found in Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is a "couch" that enables a person to broadcast their dreams: "["]We know that in human history many of the great inventions sprang up all over the world, apparently independently, maybe simultaneously. Are they Heechee suggestions, via the couch?"" (p 87) Zeitgeists fascinate me, I'm sure I've been part of many. A more Ockham's Razor explanation for them than Pohl's fanciful suggestion might be that certain mindsets reach the same conclusions at the same time b/c they're 'obvious' next steps in the mindset's progression. In other words, Marconi & Tesla shared a similar cultural background & education that led to an 'obvious' next step being the radio. W/o this shared cultural & educational background this zeigeist wdn't've occurred. In other words, radio wasn't suddenly conceived of & made by a farmer w/ no scientific training. That, however, doesn't necessarily explain Tesla's ability to completely visualize inventions before building them:
"[..]I was about seventeen when my thoughts turned seriously to invention. Then I observed to my delight that I could visualize with the greatest facility. I needed no models, drawings or experiments. I could picture them all as real in my mind." - p 33, My Inventions, Nikola Tesla, 1995, Barnes & Noble Books
It might be interesting sometime to develop whole vast theories based on deliberate acceptance of probable typos & misprints as not accidents. EG: the above Beyond the Blue Event Horizon quote from p 45 re Gosh numbers begins "鈥淧h, well,鈥� said the Dead Man gloomily" w/ the "Ph" presumably intended to be "Oh" (as Pomeroy quotes it in his article).
Then, on p 129 it's printed: "But the relationship had been of suppliant and monarch" in wch "suppliant" was presumably meant to read "supplicant". But was it? After all, a "suppliant" is "a person making a humble plea to someone in power or authority" & a "supplicant" is "a person who asks for something in a respectful way from a powerful person or God". SO, what's the difference? According to , the etymology for "suppliant" is "1400-50; late Middle English < Middle French, present participle of supplier < Latin supplic膩re to beseech, supplicate" & can be confused w/ "supplicant". The same source, , provides an etymology for "supplicant" as: "1590-1600; < Latin supplicant- (stem of supplic膩ns), present participle of supplic膩re to supplicate; see -ant; doublet of suppliant".
& what's a "doublet"? According to Wikipedia:
"In etymology, two or more words in the same language are called doublets or etymological twins (or possibly triplets, etc.) when they have different phonological forms but the same etymological root. Often, but not always, the variants have entered the language through different routes. Because the relationship between words that have the same root and the same meaning is fairly obvious, the term is mostly used to characterize pairs of words that have diverged in meaning at least to some extent.
"For example English pyre and fire are doublets. Modern words with similar meaning but subtle differences contribute to the richness of the English language, as exemplified by the doublets frail and fragile (both from the Latin adjective fragilis): one might refer to a fragile tea cup and a frail old woman, but never frail tea cup, whilst fragile old woman adds a dimension of meaning by implying emotional infirmity rather than physical." -
The point is, I don't see where suppliant & supplicant have diverged, they seem to have the same meaning - w/ suppliant coming 1st. What is Pohl really up to here? It's obvious to me that everything in this novel is just a smokescreen to hide the combined significance of "Ph" & "suppliant". Don't believe me? That's b/c yr pH balance is alkaline & I'm acid-tongued (both literally & figuratively). Further supporting my theory is this: ""That's not exactly a tenth of a number, Robin," said Sigfrid." (p 230) The careful reader will note that the psychoanalyzing program is credited w/ this sentence when it shd clearly be the science program, Albert.
("If you think back to high school chemistry class, you may recall that pH is an abbreviation for potential hydrogen. A pH number measures from 0 to14 how acidic or alkaline a liquid is -- anything above 7 is alkaline and anything below 7 is acid. Water has a pH level of 7 -- it's neutral, meaning it has the same amount of acids and alkalis, which balance each other out." - )
I don't want to give too much away about the story of Beyond the Blue Event Horizon - hence my punning tangent above. Shucks, I'm not really acid-teongued. Nonetheless, I 'can't' resist quoting this:
""They're called 'prayer fans', Wan."
""No, no," he shrilled crossly, taking it away from her and marching crossly into the chamber. "You do not pray with them. You read them. Like this."" - p 138
Let that be a lesson to you: the Bible & the Qur'an were meant to help keep kafirs like myself cooler in hot desert environments - they're not for reading. All those silly religious fanatics have got it all bass-ackwards.
The Heechee Saga is epic. "After more than three-quarters of a million years of rolling slowly around Earth;s very distant sun, the artifact pulled itself into a new orbit and surged away." (p 202) That may seem a bit too long-term to wrap yr head around but think of this: Mayflies have an average lifespan of 24 hrs & their lifespan can be as short as 30 minutes ( ), humans in the US have an average lifespan of 78.2 yrs. Interestingly, the US is 38 in the list of longest-lived & Japan's at the top w/ 82.6. The average expectancy independent of country is 67.2 (males 65, females 69.5). ( )
SO, contrast a Mayfly living 30 minutes to a human male making it to 65: the human male lives 1,129,580 times longer than the Mayfly who "depending on the species and after hatching [..] mate, lay eggs and die." ( .. again) We have time to notice them but do they even notice us? It's completely reasonable, if still only speculative, that there's another critter out there to whom we're naught but a Mayfly.
"Not much development occurred in the fifteen years between the removal of the colony from its prehistoric African home and Squint's death. The Heechee were not discouraged. In fifteen years, they did not expect much. They had much longer plans than that." - p 262
"They tidied up behind them, as they always did. Then they went away and allowed the rest of that particular experiment, among all their experiments, to run.
"For eight hundred thousand years." - p 262
Putting that in the human / Mayfly scale again: If the human male lives 1,129,580 times longer than the Mayfly by making it to 65 then the above "eight hundred thousand years" wd put the human male at age 46.
Thank you, Frederik Pohl, for stimulating me to do the above research.
Frederik Pohl's Beyond the Blue Event Horizon
by tENTATIVELY, a cONVENIENCE - July 6, 2015
I read Pohl's Gateway 1st in this Heechee Saga. My review's here: . I'm somewhat surprised to see that I read it 3 yrs ago. That's one of those time-flies-when-you're-not-having-fun-just-getting-older thingies. Skimming over my Gateway review I think I was more impressed by that one than I was by this sequel - wch isn't to say that I thought this was 'bad', it just didn't seem quite as inspired.
One idea that caught my fancy is that of "Gosh numbers":
"Gosh numbers are numbers which represent more than one quantity, so that when you perceive the coincidence you say, 'Gosh.'" - p 45
"鈥淧h, well,鈥� said the Dead Man gloomily, 鈥渁ll right. Point-five degrees is the angular diameter of both the sun and the Moon as seen from Earth. Gosh! How strange that they should be the same, but also how useful, because it is partly because of this coincidence that Earth has eclipses. Minus-forty degrees is the temperature which is the same in both Fahrenheit and Celsius scales. Gosh. Two thousand twenty-five is the sum of the cubes of the integers, one cubed plus two cubed plus three cubed and so on up to nine cubed, all added together. It is also the square of their sum. Gosh.["]" - p 45
""One. The quantities Tiny Jim referred to as 'gosh numbers'. These are numerical quantities, mostly of the sort called 'dimensionless' because they are the same in any units you measure. The mass ratio between the electron and the proton. The Dirac number to express the difference between electromagnetic and gravitational force. The Eddington fine-structure constant. And so forth. We know these numbers to great precision. What we do not know is why they are what they are. Why shouldn't the fine-structure constant be, say, 150 instead of 137-plus? If we understoood astrophysics鈥攊f we had a complete theory鈥攚e should be able to deduce these numbers from that theory.["]" - p 289
SO, of course, I had to do at least some cursory research on Gosh Numbers wch led me to: where Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is discussed & quoted & then this follows:
"Well, that was a rather lengthy introduction, so I will not delay any further the first Gosh Number:
"1729
"1729 is the least number expressible as the sum of 2 cubes in two different ways:
"1729 = 123 + 13 = 103 + 93
"1729 is also the 3rd Carmichael number
"1729 is also a centered cube number, a dodecagonal number, a 24-gonal and 84-gonal number. The creators of the television cartoon Futurama thought so much of 1729 that they included it within the show on several occasions.
"GOSH!!"
The author of the above is one Steven Pomeroy.
One of the Heechee artifacts found in Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is a "couch" that enables a person to broadcast their dreams: "["]We know that in human history many of the great inventions sprang up all over the world, apparently independently, maybe simultaneously. Are they Heechee suggestions, via the couch?"" (p 87) Zeitgeists fascinate me, I'm sure I've been part of many. A more Ockham's Razor explanation for them than Pohl's fanciful suggestion might be that certain mindsets reach the same conclusions at the same time b/c they're 'obvious' next steps in the mindset's progression. In other words, Marconi & Tesla shared a similar cultural background & education that led to an 'obvious' next step being the radio. W/o this shared cultural & educational background this zeigeist wdn't've occurred. In other words, radio wasn't suddenly conceived of & made by a farmer w/ no scientific training. That, however, doesn't necessarily explain Tesla's ability to completely visualize inventions before building them:
"[..]I was about seventeen when my thoughts turned seriously to invention. Then I observed to my delight that I could visualize with the greatest facility. I needed no models, drawings or experiments. I could picture them all as real in my mind." - p 33, My Inventions, Nikola Tesla, 1995, Barnes & Noble Books
It might be interesting sometime to develop whole vast theories based on deliberate acceptance of probable typos & misprints as not accidents. EG: the above Beyond the Blue Event Horizon quote from p 45 re Gosh numbers begins "鈥淧h, well,鈥� said the Dead Man gloomily" w/ the "Ph" presumably intended to be "Oh" (as Pomeroy quotes it in his article).
Then, on p 129 it's printed: "But the relationship had been of suppliant and monarch" in wch "suppliant" was presumably meant to read "supplicant". But was it? After all, a "suppliant" is "a person making a humble plea to someone in power or authority" & a "supplicant" is "a person who asks for something in a respectful way from a powerful person or God". SO, what's the difference? According to , the etymology for "suppliant" is "1400-50; late Middle English < Middle French, present participle of supplier < Latin supplic膩re to beseech, supplicate" & can be confused w/ "supplicant". The same source, , provides an etymology for "supplicant" as: "1590-1600; < Latin supplicant- (stem of supplic膩ns), present participle of supplic膩re to supplicate; see -ant; doublet of suppliant".
& what's a "doublet"? According to Wikipedia:
"In etymology, two or more words in the same language are called doublets or etymological twins (or possibly triplets, etc.) when they have different phonological forms but the same etymological root. Often, but not always, the variants have entered the language through different routes. Because the relationship between words that have the same root and the same meaning is fairly obvious, the term is mostly used to characterize pairs of words that have diverged in meaning at least to some extent.
"For example English pyre and fire are doublets. Modern words with similar meaning but subtle differences contribute to the richness of the English language, as exemplified by the doublets frail and fragile (both from the Latin adjective fragilis): one might refer to a fragile tea cup and a frail old woman, but never frail tea cup, whilst fragile old woman adds a dimension of meaning by implying emotional infirmity rather than physical." -
The point is, I don't see where suppliant & supplicant have diverged, they seem to have the same meaning - w/ suppliant coming 1st. What is Pohl really up to here? It's obvious to me that everything in this novel is just a smokescreen to hide the combined significance of "Ph" & "suppliant". Don't believe me? That's b/c yr pH balance is alkaline & I'm acid-tongued (both literally & figuratively). Further supporting my theory is this: ""That's not exactly a tenth of a number, Robin," said Sigfrid." (p 230) The careful reader will note that the psychoanalyzing program is credited w/ this sentence when it shd clearly be the science program, Albert.
("If you think back to high school chemistry class, you may recall that pH is an abbreviation for potential hydrogen. A pH number measures from 0 to14 how acidic or alkaline a liquid is -- anything above 7 is alkaline and anything below 7 is acid. Water has a pH level of 7 -- it's neutral, meaning it has the same amount of acids and alkalis, which balance each other out." - )
I don't want to give too much away about the story of Beyond the Blue Event Horizon - hence my punning tangent above. Shucks, I'm not really acid-teongued. Nonetheless, I 'can't' resist quoting this:
""They're called 'prayer fans', Wan."
""No, no," he shrilled crossly, taking it away from her and marching crossly into the chamber. "You do not pray with them. You read them. Like this."" - p 138
Let that be a lesson to you: the Bible & the Qur'an were meant to help keep kafirs like myself cooler in hot desert environments - they're not for reading. All those silly religious fanatics have got it all bass-ackwards.
The Heechee Saga is epic. "After more than three-quarters of a million years of rolling slowly around Earth;s very distant sun, the artifact pulled itself into a new orbit and surged away." (p 202) That may seem a bit too long-term to wrap yr head around but think of this: Mayflies have an average lifespan of 24 hrs & their lifespan can be as short as 30 minutes ( ), humans in the US have an average lifespan of 78.2 yrs. Interestingly, the US is 38 in the list of longest-lived & Japan's at the top w/ 82.6. The average expectancy independent of country is 67.2 (males 65, females 69.5). ( )
SO, contrast a Mayfly living 30 minutes to a human male making it to 65: the human male lives 1,129,580 times longer than the Mayfly who "depending on the species and after hatching [..] mate, lay eggs and die." ( .. again) We have time to notice them but do they even notice us? It's completely reasonable, if still only speculative, that there's another critter out there to whom we're naught but a Mayfly.
"Not much development occurred in the fifteen years between the removal of the colony from its prehistoric African home and Squint's death. The Heechee were not discouraged. In fifteen years, they did not expect much. They had much longer plans than that." - p 262
"They tidied up behind them, as they always did. Then they went away and allowed the rest of that particular experiment, among all their experiments, to run.
"For eight hundred thousand years." - p 262
Putting that in the human / Mayfly scale again: If the human male lives 1,129,580 times longer than the Mayfly by making it to 65 then the above "eight hundred thousand years" wd put the human male at age 46.
Thank you, Frederik Pohl, for stimulating me to do the above research.
August 4, 2021
Siendo 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 una maravilla, la segunda parte de la saga me ha parecido una obra maestra.
No puedo explicar todo lo que me ha gustado. Tiene de todo:
路 Variedad de escenarios, personajes interesantes y puntos de vista
路 Inteligencia artificial explicada en profundidad y de forma interesante
路 Misterio, acci贸n, reflexi贸n
Es un libro que me ha llenado de principio a fin. Si bien 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 iba aumentando en profundidad a lo largo de su lectura (lo cual creo acertado para la primera parte de la saga), creo que 茅ste otro mantiene la intensidad y el inter茅s del lector a lo largo de todo el libro de forma magistral (con sus momentos de pausa, obviamente).
Los escenarios me han resultado muy bien descritos y los personajes muy bien trabajados. Tanto 茅ste como 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 me han recordado a Asimov en cuanto a estructura, en el sentido de dar un batacazo final y explicar en profundidad temas de inter茅s para el lector sin resultar nada pedante, consiguiendo mantener el inter茅s.
En resumen, de momento recomiendo mucho esta saga si te gusta la ciencia ficci贸n y si, como yo, eres una persona curiosa en temas existenciales y conceptos de tiempo diferentes a los del d铆a a d铆a.
No puedo explicar todo lo que me ha gustado. Tiene de todo:
路 Variedad de escenarios, personajes interesantes y puntos de vista
路 Inteligencia artificial explicada en profundidad y de forma interesante
路 Misterio, acci贸n, reflexi贸n
Es un libro que me ha llenado de principio a fin. Si bien 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 iba aumentando en profundidad a lo largo de su lectura (lo cual creo acertado para la primera parte de la saga), creo que 茅ste otro mantiene la intensidad y el inter茅s del lector a lo largo de todo el libro de forma magistral (con sus momentos de pausa, obviamente).
Los escenarios me han resultado muy bien descritos y los personajes muy bien trabajados. Tanto 茅ste como 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 me han recordado a Asimov en cuanto a estructura, en el sentido de dar un batacazo final y explicar en profundidad temas de inter茅s para el lector sin resultar nada pedante, consiguiendo mantener el inter茅s.
En resumen, de momento recomiendo mucho esta saga si te gusta la ciencia ficci贸n y si, como yo, eres una persona curiosa en temas existenciales y conceptos de tiempo diferentes a los del d铆a a d铆a.
June 9, 2024
This book does follow Bob, however he is almost u recognizable from the previous book鈥� which is bittersweet for me.
There is no psychiatric discussion or even inner struggle as much as a new cast of characters (that seem outta place) and new discoveries about the heechee aliens
There is no psychiatric discussion or even inner struggle as much as a new cast of characters (that seem outta place) and new discoveries about the heechee aliens
June 15, 2018
Pohl here continues the Heechee saga with more of the same. Book 2 in the series is a small part human archeology of alien technology, a solid dose teenage sexuality, a touch of facing death and quite a lot of stupidity. Some of the tech in the book is way beyond what can ever be reasonably expected to become reality and it seems to only get more and more speculative.
Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is not too long, an easy read and quite entertaining despite all the flaws. Although it makes no lasting impression it was just good enough to make me read part 3 of the Heechee saga, sometime, with no must reads on the shelf.
Beyond the Blue Event Horizon is not too long, an easy read and quite entertaining despite all the flaws. Although it makes no lasting impression it was just good enough to make me read part 3 of the Heechee saga, sometime, with no must reads on the shelf.
September 7, 2021
[TW: alluded incest, mentions of rape, inappropriate sexual acts in front of a minor, paedophilia, sexism, medical descriptions]
What the fuck, Frederik Pohl. I thought your weird forays into writing a "queer" character (that was only actually "queer" due to childhood trauma) was just you being goofy, but the continuous hypersexualized descriptions of a 14(!!!) year old girl by her 40 year old brother-in-law and another overly sexualized teenager of undisclosed age made this book incredibly difficult to read. I enjoyed the parallel Broadhead storylines in Gateway and was very sad to see them swapped out for multiple perspectives in this book. There was not one character I liked, and the slow unraveling of the mystery of the Heechees also fell very flat. I genuinely enjoyed the horror of the unknown Gateway brought with it - sitting on edge every time someone entered a Heechee ship, unsure of whether they would return, and whether this would be alive or dead. Pohl obviously aimed to make a whole series out of it, though sadly lost the charm of the first book while doing so. I'm just angry I wasted so much time reading about men who wanted to do sexual things to a minor and unravelling a mystery that didn't need to be solved. Also why did one character have to be a Nazi son? What point was THAT supposed to make? And why do people never prepare for something they call the 130 day fever? Why would you risk billions of dollars of damages every 130 days instead of just... shutting down the world for a bit? I don't get it.
What the fuck, Frederik Pohl. I thought your weird forays into writing a "queer" character (that was only actually "queer" due to childhood trauma) was just you being goofy, but the continuous hypersexualized descriptions of a 14(!!!) year old girl by her 40 year old brother-in-law and another overly sexualized teenager of undisclosed age made this book incredibly difficult to read. I enjoyed the parallel Broadhead storylines in Gateway and was very sad to see them swapped out for multiple perspectives in this book. There was not one character I liked, and the slow unraveling of the mystery of the Heechees also fell very flat. I genuinely enjoyed the horror of the unknown Gateway brought with it - sitting on edge every time someone entered a Heechee ship, unsure of whether they would return, and whether this would be alive or dead. Pohl obviously aimed to make a whole series out of it, though sadly lost the charm of the first book while doing so. I'm just angry I wasted so much time reading about men who wanted to do sexual things to a minor and unravelling a mystery that didn't need to be solved. Also why did one character have to be a Nazi son? What point was THAT supposed to make? And why do people never prepare for something they call the 130 day fever? Why would you risk billions of dollars of damages every 130 days instead of just... shutting down the world for a bit? I don't get it.
September 14, 2016
This is re-read for me. I first read the novel when it came out and I was barely an adult. At the time I thought it was the middle book of a trilogy and that the story suffered a bit for it, but now we know there were to be five books in this series and I have no idea why I ever thought it had middle volume syndrome. It's quite immersive!
The character motivations make a good deal more sense reading it now from a more mature perspective. The novel is far more upbeat than Gateway, thus far more enjoyable to me, but I can see why some found it not as groundbreaking. It is however solid science fiction the way it used to be during my own golden age. Some of the cosmology is already a little out of date, but the characters are interesting. Some of them I might like to hang out with -- if not in a stinky cramped spacecraft for three years as in the story.
My favorite character is probably Albert (Einstein), a much more lovable computer program than the Sigmund von Shrink of the first book. It is well worth getting through the first three quarters of the novel featuring mostly character development (not a boring task by any means) to get to roughly the last quarter where great big awe inspiring vistas of time and space open up in ways only science fiction can achieve.
This is the good sense of wonder stuff I find so lacking in much of today's genre fiction.
The character motivations make a good deal more sense reading it now from a more mature perspective. The novel is far more upbeat than Gateway, thus far more enjoyable to me, but I can see why some found it not as groundbreaking. It is however solid science fiction the way it used to be during my own golden age. Some of the cosmology is already a little out of date, but the characters are interesting. Some of them I might like to hang out with -- if not in a stinky cramped spacecraft for three years as in the story.
My favorite character is probably Albert (Einstein), a much more lovable computer program than the Sigmund von Shrink of the first book. It is well worth getting through the first three quarters of the novel featuring mostly character development (not a boring task by any means) to get to roughly the last quarter where great big awe inspiring vistas of time and space open up in ways only science fiction can achieve.
This is the good sense of wonder stuff I find so lacking in much of today's genre fiction.
December 16, 2015
La historia, continuaci贸n de esa obra maestra que es 鈥櫛拭嘲倬背Υ氢€�, tiene dos escenarios. Por un lado tenemos a Robin Broadhead, el que fuera protagonista de 鈥槺拭嘲倬背Υ氢€�, que financia una expedici贸n hacia un artefacto Heechee, la F谩brica Alimentaria, que se encuentra en la nube de Oort, capaz de transformar ciertos elementos del universo en alimentos. Su intenci贸n es utilizarla para acabar con el hambre en la Tierra. Y por otro lado, est谩 la propia expedici贸n y sus miembros, que llevan viajando tres a帽os y medio para llegar a la F谩brica. Ambas tramas me parecen interesantes, tanto lo que sucede con los artefactos Heechee, como lo que acontece en la Tierra con Robin.
鈥楾ras el incierto horizonte鈥� (Beyond the Blue Event Horizon, 1980), del norteamericano Frederik Pohl, sin llegar al nivel de excelencia de 鈥槺拭嘲倬背Υ氢€�, me ha parecido una muy buena novela. Me ha interesado todo lo que me ha ido contado, manteniendo mi inter茅s hacia un final abierto al tercer volumen de la saga.
鈥楾ras el incierto horizonte鈥� (Beyond the Blue Event Horizon, 1980), del norteamericano Frederik Pohl, sin llegar al nivel de excelencia de 鈥槺拭嘲倬背Υ氢€�, me ha parecido una muy buena novela. Me ha interesado todo lo que me ha ido contado, manteniendo mi inter茅s hacia un final abierto al tercer volumen de la saga.
April 13, 2020
3/5
Coincido con lo que parece ser la opini贸n generalizada de esta segunda entrega de Los Anales de los Heechee: no est谩 a la altura, ni por asomo, de la primera. El libro comienza con unas reflexiones casi ped贸filas del que ser谩 uno de los protagonistas hacia una ni帽a de 14 a帽os que se extienden demasiado para mi gusto -y espero que tambi茅n para el de la mayor铆a-. Ambos son miembros de una tripulaci贸n cuyos integrantes comparten un grado de parentesco entre s铆. Esta tripulaci贸n compuesta por padre, hijas y yerno tiene la misi贸n de llegar a la Factor铆a Alimentaria, en los l铆mites del Sistema Solar, en la nube de Oort. Esta id铆lica nave dejada por los Heechee permitir铆a poner fin al problema de abastecimiento de alimentos que la Tierra atraviesa.
La historia se divide de esta forma en dos partes. La primera de ellas sigue a los tripulantes de ese viaje, mientras que la segunda nos cuenta las andanzas del protagonista de la original Portico, Robinette Broadhead, tras los hechos que tuvieron lugar en la primera novela. Es 茅l quien financia esta expedici贸n a la Factor铆a Alimentaria. El inter茅s del libro reside principalmente en el viaje de estos peculiares tripulantes, siendo la parte de Robin bastante m谩s aburrida. Pero bueno, tambi茅n es comprensible dada su nueva condici贸n de multimillonario.
La idea de esta segunda entrega resulta interesante pero es llevada a cabo de un modo mucho menos magistral. No es un mal libro pero podr铆a ser mejor. 驴Qu茅 sensaciones me causar谩 El encuentro? Qui茅n sabe, pero espero que sea algo m谩s reminiscente de 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 que esta primera entrega.
Coincido con lo que parece ser la opini贸n generalizada de esta segunda entrega de Los Anales de los Heechee: no est谩 a la altura, ni por asomo, de la primera. El libro comienza con unas reflexiones casi ped贸filas del que ser谩 uno de los protagonistas hacia una ni帽a de 14 a帽os que se extienden demasiado para mi gusto -y espero que tambi茅n para el de la mayor铆a-. Ambos son miembros de una tripulaci贸n cuyos integrantes comparten un grado de parentesco entre s铆. Esta tripulaci贸n compuesta por padre, hijas y yerno tiene la misi贸n de llegar a la Factor铆a Alimentaria, en los l铆mites del Sistema Solar, en la nube de Oort. Esta id铆lica nave dejada por los Heechee permitir铆a poner fin al problema de abastecimiento de alimentos que la Tierra atraviesa.
La historia se divide de esta forma en dos partes. La primera de ellas sigue a los tripulantes de ese viaje, mientras que la segunda nos cuenta las andanzas del protagonista de la original Portico, Robinette Broadhead, tras los hechos que tuvieron lugar en la primera novela. Es 茅l quien financia esta expedici贸n a la Factor铆a Alimentaria. El inter茅s del libro reside principalmente en el viaje de estos peculiares tripulantes, siendo la parte de Robin bastante m谩s aburrida. Pero bueno, tambi茅n es comprensible dada su nueva condici贸n de multimillonario.
La idea de esta segunda entrega resulta interesante pero es llevada a cabo de un modo mucho menos magistral. No es un mal libro pero podr铆a ser mejor. 驴Qu茅 sensaciones me causar谩 El encuentro? Qui茅n sabe, pero espero que sea algo m谩s reminiscente de 笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 que esta primera entrega.
April 12, 2021
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1,5 蟹胁械蟹写懈
1,5 蟹胁械蟹写懈
August 26, 2021
笔贸谤迟颈肠辞 no es un libro que me haya gustado demasiado, no est谩 mal, pero tampoco est谩 muy bien, no me gusta su protagonista, la historia por momentos se empantana y alguna que otra cosita que tampoco termina de funcionar.
Sin embargo esta segunda parte,sin ser perfecta, me ha gustado bastante m谩s, la coralidad de protagonistas logra que la narraci贸n siempre se mantenga din谩mica, incluso cuando es una novela con una ficci贸n cient铆fica muy t茅cnica, compleja pero explicada con solvencia aunque a veces el personaje de Albert se haga un poco cansino.
La novela tambi茅n acierta al comenzar a ampliar el universo Heechee, sentando las bases para una saga que alcanz贸 si no me equivoco las seis novelas, por el momento con un gran inter茅s en su tercera parte.
Nota:8/10
Sin embargo esta segunda parte,sin ser perfecta, me ha gustado bastante m谩s, la coralidad de protagonistas logra que la narraci贸n siempre se mantenga din谩mica, incluso cuando es una novela con una ficci贸n cient铆fica muy t茅cnica, compleja pero explicada con solvencia aunque a veces el personaje de Albert se haga un poco cansino.
La novela tambi茅n acierta al comenzar a ampliar el universo Heechee, sentando las bases para una saga que alcanz贸 si no me equivoco las seis novelas, por el momento con un gran inter茅s en su tercera parte.
Nota:8/10
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