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丕爻胤賵乇賴 鬲賵賱丿 賯賴乇賲丕賳: 鬲賮爻蹖乇蹖 乇賵丕賳 卮賳丕禺鬲蹖 丕夭 丕爻丕胤蹖乇
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First published January 1, 1909
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Otto Rank
116听books215听followersBorn in Vienna as Otto Rosenfeld, he was one of Sigmund Freud's closest colleagues for 20 years, a prolific writer on psychoanalytic themes, an editor of the two most important analytic journals, managing director of Freud's publishing house and a creative theorist and therapist. In 1926, Otto Rank left Vienna for Paris. For the remaining 14 years of his life, Rank had a successful career as a lecturer, writer and therapist in France and the U.S..
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February 29, 2020
丕賲鬲蹖丕夭: 3.5
September 20, 2013
Simply an extraordinary work. It's a shame that Rank has been regarded as a "third tier" figure in the history of psychoanalysis, usually ranked below Freud and Jung. Personally, I think Rank's analysis of myth is more interesting than Jung's, and this book is the most cogent expression of it. It's also a shame that much of Rank's preliminary work (as well as that of others) from Imago has not been published in book form.
May 12, 2021
螣 Freud, 蟿慰 cool 蟺伪喂未委 蟿畏蟼 蠄蠀蠂伪谓维位蠀蟽畏蟼 蔚委蠂蔚 苇谓伪 渭蠀蟽蟿喂魏蠈 魏蠉魏位慰 苇渭蟺喂蟽蟿蠅谓 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿蠋谓 纬喂伪 谓伪 蟿慰蠀 位苇谓蔚 蟺蠅蟼 苇蠂蔚喂 蟺维谓蟿伪 未委魏-.. 蔚 纬喂伪 谓伪 伪谓蟿伪位位维味慰蠀谓 伪蟺蠈蠄蔚喂蟼. And if you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it, 魏维蟿喂 蟺慰蠀 苇纬喂谓蔚 魏伪喂 苇未蠅蟽蔚 蟽蟿伪 伪纬蠈蟻喂伪 蟿慰蠀 伪蟺蠈 苇谓伪 蠂蟻蠀蟽蠈 未伪蠂蟿蠀位委未喂. 危蔚 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟿慰 蠁慰尾蔚蟻蠈 纬魏蟻慰蠀蟺维魏喂 萎蟿伪谓 魏伪喂 慰 Otto Rosenfeld, 魏伪蟿维 魏蠈蟽渭慰 Otto Rank, 蠄蠀蠂慰位蠈纬慰蟼, 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿萎蟼, 蟽蠀纬纬蟻伪蠁苇伪蟼 魏伪喂 伪蟻纬蠈蟿蔚蟻伪 魏伪胃畏纬畏蟿萎蟼, 慰 慰蟺慰委慰蟼 蠀蟺萎蟻尉蔚 蟺蟻蠋蟿慰蟼 纬蟻伪渭渭伪蟿苇伪蟼 蟿畏蟼 唯蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏萎蟼 螘蟿伪喂蟻蔚委伪蟼 蟿畏蟼 螔喂苇谓谓畏蟼 魏伪喂 蟽蟿蔚谓蠈蟿蔚蟻慰蟼 蟽蠀谓蔚蟻纬维蟿畏蟼 蟿慰蠀 Freud 纬喂伪 魏维蟺慰喂伪 蠂蟻蠈谓喂伪. 螝维蟺慰喂伪 蟽蟿喂纬渭萎, 慰 Rank 魏伪蟿畏纬慰蟻萎胃- 蟺伪蟻伪蟿畏蟻萎胃畏魏蔚 蟺蠅蟼 蔚委蠂蔚 伪蟻蠂委蟽蔚喂 魏维蟺蠅蟼 谓伪 伪蟺慰魏位委谓蔚喂 伪蟺蠈 蟿畏谓 "慰蟻胃蠈未慰尉畏" 蠁蟻慰蠇未喂魏萎 胃蔚蠅蟻委伪, 渭蔚 伪蟺慰蟿苇位蔚蟽渭伪 谓伪 未喂伪纬蟻伪蠁蔚委 伪蟺蠈 蟿畏谓 螒渭蔚蟻喂魏伪谓喂魏萎 唯蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏萎 螆谓蠅蟽畏 魏伪喂 谓伪 蟿伪 蟽蟺维蟽蔚喂 渭蔚 蟿慰谓 Freud. 螖蔚谓 蟺蔚喂蟻维味蔚喂! New year, new me, 蔚委蟺蔚 魏伪喂 苇蟿蟽喂 魏喂 苇纬喂谓蔚. 螣 Rank 未蔚谓 蟿伪委蟻喂伪尉蔚 蟿蠈蟽慰 渭蔚 蟿慰蠀蟼 蠀蟺蠈位慰喂蟺慰蠀蟼, 蔚委谓伪喂 蟺喂慰 蠁喂位慰位慰纬喂魏蠈蟼, 苇蠂蔚喂 伪谓维纬魏畏 蟺蔚蟻喂蟽蟽蠈蟿蔚蟻慰 蟿畏谓 伪谓维位蠀蟽畏 蟿慰蠀 蟺慰位喂蟿喂蟽渭慰蠉 魏伪喂 蟿畏蟼 蟿苇蠂谓畏蟼 魏伪喂 位喂纬蠈蟿蔚蟻慰 蟺维胃慰蟼 纬喂伪 蟿慰 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏蠈 谓蟿喂尾维谓喂.
危蔚 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟿慰 蔚谓未喂伪蠁苇蟻慰谓 伪谓维纬谓蠅蟽渭伪, 伪蟻蠂喂魏维 纬蟻伪渭渭苇谓慰 蟿慰 1909, 慰 Rank 未畏渭喂慰蠀蟻纬蔚委 苇谓伪 蟺位伪委蟽喂慰 纬蠉蟻蠅 伪蟺蠈 蟿畏谓 纬苇谓谓畏蟽畏 蟿慰蠀 萎蟻蠅伪 魏伪喂 魏维谓蔚喂 蟿喂蟼 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏苇蟼 蟽蠀谓未苇蟽蔚喂蟼. 危蠉渭蠁蠅谓伪 渭蔚 蟿慰谓 委未喂慰, 蠈位蔚蟼 慰喂 畏蟻蠅喂魏苇蟼 蠁喂纬慰蠉蟻蔚蟼 蟿伪喂蟻喂维味慰蠀谓 蟽蔚 苇谓伪 蟽蠀纬魏蔚魏蟻喂渭苇谓慰 胃蟻蠉位慰 纬苇谓谓畏蟽畏蟼. Off the top of one's head: 违蟺维蟻蠂蔚喂 魏维蟺慰喂慰蟼 蠂蟻畏蟽渭蠈蟼 蟺蠅蟼 慰 纬喂蠈蟼 蟿慰蠀 螔伪蟽喂位喂维 胃伪 纬委谓蔚喂 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼 魏伪喂 胃伪 蟿慰谓 蟽魏慰蟿蠋蟽蔚喂, 蟽蠀谓蔚蟺蠋蟼 慰 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼 未委谓蔚喂 蟿慰 谓蔚慰纬谓蠈 蟺蟻慰蟼 蔚魏蟿苇位蔚蟽畏, 魏维蟺慰喂慰蟼 尾慰蟽魏蠈蟼 蟿慰 伪蠁萎谓蔚喂 蟽蟿慰 未维蟽慰蟼, 蔚魏蔚委 蟿慰 蠁蟻慰谓蟿委味慰蠀谓 蟿伪 维纬蟻喂伪 味蠋伪 魏伪喂 蟿伪 蠁苇蟻谓蔚喂 苇蟿蟽喂 畏 渭慰委蟻伪, 蟺慰蠀 蠈蟿伪谓 渭蔚纬伪位蠋蟽蔚喂 慰 谓蔚伪蟻蠈蟼 畏纬苇蟿畏蟼, 蠈谓蟿蠅蟼 蟽魏慰蟿蠋谓蔚喂 蟿慰谓 蟺伪蟿苇蟻伪 魏伪喂 纬委谓蔚蟿伪喂 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼. 桅蠀蟽喂魏维 未蔚谓 胃伪 渭蟺慰蟻慰蠉蟽蔚 谓伪 位蔚委蟺蔚喂 魏伪喂 畏 伪蟽蠀谓蔚委未畏蟿畏 蠄蠀蠂慰蟽蔚尉慰蠀伪位喂魏萎 蟽蠀渭蟺蔚蟻喂蠁慰蟻维 蟽蟿慰 蟻慰渭维蟿味慰 蟿畏蟼 慰喂魏慰纬苇谓蔚喂伪蟼 蟿慰蠀 萎蟻蠅伪. 螣喂 蟺蔚蟻喂蟽蟽蠈蟿蔚蟻慰喂 渭蠉胃慰喂 蟺慰蠀 伪谓伪位蠉蔚喂 蔚委谓伪喂 慰喂: 蟿伪 蟺伪蟻伪渭蠉胃喂伪 蟿蠅谓 伪未蔚蟻蠁蠋谓 螕魏蟻委渭, 蟿蠅谓 螞蠈蔚谓纬魏蟻喂谓, 螝蠉蟻慰蠀, 螙蠅蟻慰维蟽蟿蟻畏, 螣喂未委蟺慰未伪, 螜畏蟽慰蠉, 螚蟻伪魏位萎, 螤维蟻畏, 螕魏喂位纬魏伪渭苇蟼, 螤蔚蟻蟽苇伪, 螠蠅蠀蟽萎 魏伪喂 维位位蠅谓.
螘维谓 蠀蟺萎蟻蠂蔚 魏维蟿喂 蟺慰蠀 未蔚谓 渭慰蠀 维蟻蔚蟽蔚 蟿蠈蟽慰 萎蟿伪谓 慰喂 蟽蠀蠂谓苇蟼 伪谓伪位慰纬委蔚蟼 蟽蟿伪 蟺伪蟻伪未蔚委纬渭伪蟿伪 渭蔚 蟿喂蟼 伪谓伪蠁慰蟻苇蟼 蟽蔚 Freud (蠈谓蔚喂蟻伪 鈥� 蟽蠉渭尾慰位伪) 魏伪喂 Jung (伪蟻蠂苇蟿蠀蟺伪).
危蔚 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟿慰 蔚谓未喂伪蠁苇蟻慰谓 伪谓维纬谓蠅蟽渭伪, 伪蟻蠂喂魏维 纬蟻伪渭渭苇谓慰 蟿慰 1909, 慰 Rank 未畏渭喂慰蠀蟻纬蔚委 苇谓伪 蟺位伪委蟽喂慰 纬蠉蟻蠅 伪蟺蠈 蟿畏谓 纬苇谓谓畏蟽畏 蟿慰蠀 萎蟻蠅伪 魏伪喂 魏维谓蔚喂 蟿喂蟼 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏苇蟼 蟽蠀谓未苇蟽蔚喂蟼. 危蠉渭蠁蠅谓伪 渭蔚 蟿慰谓 委未喂慰, 蠈位蔚蟼 慰喂 畏蟻蠅喂魏苇蟼 蠁喂纬慰蠉蟻蔚蟼 蟿伪喂蟻喂维味慰蠀谓 蟽蔚 苇谓伪 蟽蠀纬魏蔚魏蟻喂渭苇谓慰 胃蟻蠉位慰 纬苇谓谓畏蟽畏蟼. Off the top of one's head: 违蟺维蟻蠂蔚喂 魏维蟺慰喂慰蟼 蠂蟻畏蟽渭蠈蟼 蟺蠅蟼 慰 纬喂蠈蟼 蟿慰蠀 螔伪蟽喂位喂维 胃伪 纬委谓蔚喂 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼 魏伪喂 胃伪 蟿慰谓 蟽魏慰蟿蠋蟽蔚喂, 蟽蠀谓蔚蟺蠋蟼 慰 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼 未委谓蔚喂 蟿慰 谓蔚慰纬谓蠈 蟺蟻慰蟼 蔚魏蟿苇位蔚蟽畏, 魏维蟺慰喂慰蟼 尾慰蟽魏蠈蟼 蟿慰 伪蠁萎谓蔚喂 蟽蟿慰 未维蟽慰蟼, 蔚魏蔚委 蟿慰 蠁蟻慰谓蟿委味慰蠀谓 蟿伪 维纬蟻喂伪 味蠋伪 魏伪喂 蟿伪 蠁苇蟻谓蔚喂 苇蟿蟽喂 畏 渭慰委蟻伪, 蟺慰蠀 蠈蟿伪谓 渭蔚纬伪位蠋蟽蔚喂 慰 谓蔚伪蟻蠈蟼 畏纬苇蟿畏蟼, 蠈谓蟿蠅蟼 蟽魏慰蟿蠋谓蔚喂 蟿慰谓 蟺伪蟿苇蟻伪 魏伪喂 纬委谓蔚蟿伪喂 螔伪蟽喂位喂维蟼. 桅蠀蟽喂魏维 未蔚谓 胃伪 渭蟺慰蟻慰蠉蟽蔚 谓伪 位蔚委蟺蔚喂 魏伪喂 畏 伪蟽蠀谓蔚委未畏蟿畏 蠄蠀蠂慰蟽蔚尉慰蠀伪位喂魏萎 蟽蠀渭蟺蔚蟻喂蠁慰蟻维 蟽蟿慰 蟻慰渭维蟿味慰 蟿畏蟼 慰喂魏慰纬苇谓蔚喂伪蟼 蟿慰蠀 萎蟻蠅伪. 螣喂 蟺蔚蟻喂蟽蟽蠈蟿蔚蟻慰喂 渭蠉胃慰喂 蟺慰蠀 伪谓伪位蠉蔚喂 蔚委谓伪喂 慰喂: 蟿伪 蟺伪蟻伪渭蠉胃喂伪 蟿蠅谓 伪未蔚蟻蠁蠋谓 螕魏蟻委渭, 蟿蠅谓 螞蠈蔚谓纬魏蟻喂谓, 螝蠉蟻慰蠀, 螙蠅蟻慰维蟽蟿蟻畏, 螣喂未委蟺慰未伪, 螜畏蟽慰蠉, 螚蟻伪魏位萎, 螤维蟻畏, 螕魏喂位纬魏伪渭苇蟼, 螤蔚蟻蟽苇伪, 螠蠅蠀蟽萎 魏伪喂 维位位蠅谓.
螘维谓 蠀蟺萎蟻蠂蔚 魏维蟿喂 蟺慰蠀 未蔚谓 渭慰蠀 维蟻蔚蟽蔚 蟿蠈蟽慰 萎蟿伪谓 慰喂 蟽蠀蠂谓苇蟼 伪谓伪位慰纬委蔚蟼 蟽蟿伪 蟺伪蟻伪未蔚委纬渭伪蟿伪 渭蔚 蟿喂蟼 伪谓伪蠁慰蟻苇蟼 蟽蔚 Freud (蠈谓蔚喂蟻伪 鈥� 蟽蠉渭尾慰位伪) 魏伪喂 Jung (伪蟻蠂苇蟿蠀蟺伪).
December 12, 2014
This is a classic work and a must-read for anyone seriously interested in mythology and in particular hero mythology. But it was written about a century ago and so it is seriously out of date in terms of its psychological and mythological theory, and the translations of the texts under discussion are also antiquated and often inaccurate. The book's main service these days is to collect and discuss, albeit briefly, a number of texts concerning the birth of hero figures that have similar motifs. For this I give it 3 stars, but no more because of it being so dated and also lacking in detail and thorough discussion. Were I writing a century ago, it would probably get 4 or 5 because it was groundbreaking at the time.
November 23, 2024
Mitlerin psikolojik k枚kenini en temiz ve g眉zel 艧ekilde a莽谋klayan kaynaklardan biri olsa gerek. Freud'un y枚ntemlerinden yola 莽谋karak ta Lacan'谋n sistemlerine kadar her t眉rl眉 alana de臒inen Otto Rank, bir mit kahraman谋n谋n ger莽ek anlamda oldu臒u kadar metaforik anlamdaki do臒u艧unu da m眉kemmel 枚zetliyor.
Giri艧indeki anlat谋yla birlikte "Mitler dinlerden mi gelmi艧tir, yoksa dinler mi mitlerden gelmi艧tir?" ikilemini tekrar tekrar d眉艧眉nd眉rt眉yor. Ayn谋 zamanda mitlerin, bu efsanevi her hikayenin temelinde yatan 眉莽 temel mitolojik esas谋n da a莽谋klanmas谋yla son derece a莽谋klay谋c谋 bir eser.
Giri艧indeki anlat谋yla birlikte "Mitler dinlerden mi gelmi艧tir, yoksa dinler mi mitlerden gelmi艧tir?" ikilemini tekrar tekrar d眉艧眉nd眉rt眉yor. Ayn谋 zamanda mitlerin, bu efsanevi her hikayenin temelinde yatan 眉莽 temel mitolojik esas谋n da a莽谋klanmas谋yla son derece a莽谋klay谋c谋 bir eser.
February 17, 2023
Kitap 眉莽 k谋s谋mdan olu艧uyor. 陌lk k谋s谋mda Rank mitlerin ortak/benzer 枚r眉nt眉ler 莽谋karmas谋n谋 farkl谋 teoriler e艧li臒inde olduk莽a sade bir 艧ekilde a莽谋kl谋yor.
陌kinci k谋s谋mda d眉nyan谋n farkl谋 b枚lgelerinden farkl谋 kahramanl谋k mitlerinin ana karakterlerinin do臒u艧 mitlerini okuyoruz. Okurken Rank bize ortak noktalar谋 italik yazarak belirtiyor.
Son b枚l眉mde ise Rank, bu mitleri bizlere yorumluyor. Mitleri benzerliklerine g枚re yorumluyor ve burdan insan psikolojisinin temel noktalar谋na de臒iniyor.
Olduk莽a sade bir dili bulunan kitab谋n benim a莽谋mdan en zor k谋sm谋 son b枚l眉md眉. Uzun y谋llard谋r psikanalizden ve onun kavramlar谋ndan uzak oldu臒um i莽in belli yerleri anlamak i莽in ara艧t谋rmalar yapmam gerekti. Kitap temel bir psikanaliz bilgisini son b枚l眉mde gerekli k谋l谋yor. 陌leri d眉sey psikanaliz bilgim olsayd谋 son k谋s谋mdan daha 莽ok keyif alabilirdim. Bu sebeple kitab谋 ileride yeniden okumak 眉zere 办颈迟补辫濒谋臒谋尘a yeniden koydum.
G枚k莽e Yava艧 莽ok ba艧ar谋l谋 bir 莽eviri yapm谋艧. Gerekli yerlerde dipnotlar 莽ok ba艧ar谋l谋yd谋. 脟evirmene ve yay谋nc谋ya te艧ekk眉r ederim bu g眉zel 莽eviri ve dizgi i莽in.
陌kinci k谋s谋mda d眉nyan谋n farkl谋 b枚lgelerinden farkl谋 kahramanl谋k mitlerinin ana karakterlerinin do臒u艧 mitlerini okuyoruz. Okurken Rank bize ortak noktalar谋 italik yazarak belirtiyor.
Son b枚l眉mde ise Rank, bu mitleri bizlere yorumluyor. Mitleri benzerliklerine g枚re yorumluyor ve burdan insan psikolojisinin temel noktalar谋na de臒iniyor.
Olduk莽a sade bir dili bulunan kitab谋n benim a莽谋mdan en zor k谋sm谋 son b枚l眉md眉. Uzun y谋llard谋r psikanalizden ve onun kavramlar谋ndan uzak oldu臒um i莽in belli yerleri anlamak i莽in ara艧t谋rmalar yapmam gerekti. Kitap temel bir psikanaliz bilgisini son b枚l眉mde gerekli k谋l谋yor. 陌leri d眉sey psikanaliz bilgim olsayd谋 son k谋s谋mdan daha 莽ok keyif alabilirdim. Bu sebeple kitab谋 ileride yeniden okumak 眉zere 办颈迟补辫濒谋臒谋尘a yeniden koydum.
G枚k莽e Yava艧 莽ok ba艧ar谋l谋 bir 莽eviri yapm谋艧. Gerekli yerlerde dipnotlar 莽ok ba艧ar谋l谋yd谋. 脟evirmene ve yay谋nc谋ya te艧ekk眉r ederim bu g眉zel 莽eviri ve dizgi i莽in.
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Tarih boyunca anlat谋lagelen efsaneleri k谋yaslayarak inceleyen bir kitap, bu efsanelere dini olanlar da dahil. 陌艧in garip yan谋 nerdeyse b眉t眉n efsanelerin ayn谋 taslak 眉zerinden olu艧mas谋.
脟o臒unlukla bir r眉ya, kehanet ile ba艧l谋yor. Kehanette do臒acak olan erkek 莽ocu臒un y枚neticiyi, kral谋 devirece臒i s枚yleniyor. Bundan korkan kral da o ya艧 grubundaki b眉t眉n 莽ocuklar谋n 枚ld眉r眉lmesini istiyor veya belirli bir 莽ocuk varsa o 莽ocu臒un 枚lmesini, hapsedilmesini istiyor. 脟ocuk ya sepet i莽inde nehre b谋rak谋l谋yor ya da ormana b谋rak谋l谋yor. Ormanda ya bir hayvan taraf谋ndan (bazen inek, bazen kurt hatta kartal) besleniyor ya da alt s谋n谋ftan bir kad谋n taraf谋ndan bak谋l谋yor. Sonra 莽ocuk b眉y眉yor, bir 艧ekilde kendi kimli臒ini 枚臒reniyor ve kehanet ger莽ekle艧iyor hak etti臒i taht谋 al谋yor vesaire.
Farkl谋 莽a臒lardan d眉nyan谋n bamba艧ka yerlerinden anlat谋lan bu mitlerin hepsinin bu kadar benzer 枚zelli臒e sahip olmas谋 beni 莽ok d眉艧眉nd眉rd眉. Bu konuda 3 temel teori var ama bence asl谋nda insan dedi臒imiz canl谋 birbirinden o kadar da farkl谋 de臒il. 陌nsan谋n temel d眉艧眉nceleri var ve bu efsaneler de bunlardan olu艧uyor. O y眉zden co臒rafyas谋, zaman谋 ne kadar farkl谋 olsa da o terk edilmi艧 莽ocuk hep ayn谋 senaryoyu oynuyor.
脟o臒unlukla bir r眉ya, kehanet ile ba艧l谋yor. Kehanette do臒acak olan erkek 莽ocu臒un y枚neticiyi, kral谋 devirece臒i s枚yleniyor. Bundan korkan kral da o ya艧 grubundaki b眉t眉n 莽ocuklar谋n 枚ld眉r眉lmesini istiyor veya belirli bir 莽ocuk varsa o 莽ocu臒un 枚lmesini, hapsedilmesini istiyor. 脟ocuk ya sepet i莽inde nehre b谋rak谋l谋yor ya da ormana b谋rak谋l谋yor. Ormanda ya bir hayvan taraf谋ndan (bazen inek, bazen kurt hatta kartal) besleniyor ya da alt s谋n谋ftan bir kad谋n taraf谋ndan bak谋l谋yor. Sonra 莽ocuk b眉y眉yor, bir 艧ekilde kendi kimli臒ini 枚臒reniyor ve kehanet ger莽ekle艧iyor hak etti臒i taht谋 al谋yor vesaire.
Farkl谋 莽a臒lardan d眉nyan谋n bamba艧ka yerlerinden anlat谋lan bu mitlerin hepsinin bu kadar benzer 枚zelli臒e sahip olmas谋 beni 莽ok d眉艧眉nd眉rd眉. Bu konuda 3 temel teori var ama bence asl谋nda insan dedi臒imiz canl谋 birbirinden o kadar da farkl谋 de臒il. 陌nsan谋n temel d眉艧眉nceleri var ve bu efsaneler de bunlardan olu艧uyor. O y眉zden co臒rafyas谋, zaman谋 ne kadar farkl谋 olsa da o terk edilmi艧 莽ocuk hep ayn谋 senaryoyu oynuyor.
April 11, 2021
Kitap iki b枚l眉mden olu艧uyor. 陌lk b枚l眉mde farkl谋 d枚nemlerde ve 莽e艧itli co臒rafyalarda varolmu艧 toplumlar谋n birbirlerine 莽arp谋c谋 boyutta benzeyen mitlerine yer verilmi艧. D眉r眉st olmak gerekirse bu benzerlikler ba艧ta ilgimi 莽ekti臒i i莽in ilk 2-3 miti 枚zenle okudum, ancak sonrakileri art谋k tekrarlardan bunalm谋艧 bulundu臒um i莽in h谋zl谋ca tarayarak ge莽tim. Yine de s枚ylemeliyim ki burada 枚nemli bir ar艧ivcilik i艧i mevcut ve kitap bu alana ilgi duyanlar i莽in 枚nemli bir ba艧lang谋莽 noktas谋 konumunda.
陌kinci b枚l眉m ise yazar谋n mitler aras谋ndaki bu benzerliklere ili艧kin psikanalitik ak谋l y眉r眉tmelerine ayr谋lm谋艧谋t谋. Kitab谋n yaz谋ld谋臒谋 100 sene 枚nceki d枚nem i莽in devrimci fikirler bunlar 艧眉phesiz, ancak ge莽en y谋llar i莽inde 莽ok莽a i艧lenmi艧 ve geli艧tirilmi艧ler. Hal b枚yle olunca bug眉n眉n okuruna pek de yeni 艧eyler s枚yleyemez duruma d眉艧m眉艧ler.
脟eviri ve edit枚r yakla艧谋m谋n谋 ise olduk莽a yetersiz buldum. Literat眉re uzak, zorlama ve tutars谋z terim se莽imleri ile sayfalardan f谋艧k谋ran anlat谋m bozukluklar谋 bir yana, bariz yaz谋m hatalar谋n谋n say谋s谋 bile bu seviyede bir yay谋nevinden beklenmeyecek kadar fazlayd谋.
陌kinci b枚l眉m ise yazar谋n mitler aras谋ndaki bu benzerliklere ili艧kin psikanalitik ak谋l y眉r眉tmelerine ayr谋lm谋艧谋t谋. Kitab谋n yaz谋ld谋臒谋 100 sene 枚nceki d枚nem i莽in devrimci fikirler bunlar 艧眉phesiz, ancak ge莽en y谋llar i莽inde 莽ok莽a i艧lenmi艧 ve geli艧tirilmi艧ler. Hal b枚yle olunca bug眉n眉n okuruna pek de yeni 艧eyler s枚yleyemez duruma d眉艧m眉艧ler.
脟eviri ve edit枚r yakla艧谋m谋n谋 ise olduk莽a yetersiz buldum. Literat眉re uzak, zorlama ve tutars谋z terim se莽imleri ile sayfalardan f谋艧k谋ran anlat谋m bozukluklar谋 bir yana, bariz yaz谋m hatalar谋n谋n say谋s谋 bile bu seviyede bir yay谋nevinden beklenmeyecek kadar fazlayd谋.
November 15, 2024
丕爻胤賵乇丞 賵賱丕丿丞 丕賱亘胤賱 鬲乇噩賲丞 丕亘乇丕賴賷賲 噩乇賰爻 賵賷丕乇丕 賲賳氐賵乇
丕噩賷鬲 賱賱賰鬲丕亘 亘毓丿 賯乇丕亍丞 賰鬲丕亘 丕賳賰丕乇 丕賱賲賵鬲 賱丕乇賳爻鬲 亘賷賰乇. 丕賱賲卮賰賱丞 亘丕爻胤賵乇丞 丕賱亘胤賱 丕賳 賳氐 丕賱賰鬲丕亘 賴賵 賰賱丕賲 毓賳 丕賱丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵賵賱丕丿丞 丕賱亘胤賱 亘丕賰孬乇 賲賳 丕爻胤賵乇丞. 賵丕賱賳氐 丕賱孬丕賳賷 卮乇丨 丕賱丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵賲丨丕賵賱丞 乇亘胤賴丕 亘毓賱賲 丕賱賳賮爻.
亘丕賱賳賴丕賷丞 丕賱賰鬲丕亘 賴賵丕賷 丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵卮賵賷丞 毓賱賲 賳賮爻
丕匕丕 賰賳鬲 噩丕賷 亘賲賵丿 丕賱丕爻胤賵乇丞 賷賲賰賳 賷毓噩亘賰. 丕匕丕 亘賲賵丿 毓賱賲 賳賮爻 賮卮賵賮 睾賷乇 賰鬲丕亘 丕丨爻賳
丕噩賷鬲 賱賱賰鬲丕亘 亘毓丿 賯乇丕亍丞 賰鬲丕亘 丕賳賰丕乇 丕賱賲賵鬲 賱丕乇賳爻鬲 亘賷賰乇. 丕賱賲卮賰賱丞 亘丕爻胤賵乇丞 丕賱亘胤賱 丕賳 賳氐 丕賱賰鬲丕亘 賴賵 賰賱丕賲 毓賳 丕賱丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵賵賱丕丿丞 丕賱亘胤賱 亘丕賰孬乇 賲賳 丕爻胤賵乇丞. 賵丕賱賳氐 丕賱孬丕賳賷 卮乇丨 丕賱丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵賲丨丕賵賱丞 乇亘胤賴丕 亘毓賱賲 丕賱賳賮爻.
亘丕賱賳賴丕賷丞 丕賱賰鬲丕亘 賴賵丕賷 丕爻丕胤賷乇 賵卮賵賷丞 毓賱賲 賳賮爻
丕匕丕 賰賳鬲 噩丕賷 亘賲賵丿 丕賱丕爻胤賵乇丞 賷賲賰賳 賷毓噩亘賰. 丕匕丕 亘賲賵丿 毓賱賲 賳賮爻 賮卮賵賮 睾賷乇 賰鬲丕亘 丕丨爻賳
June 1, 2021
the linking of myth to psychoanalysis. how myths may after all be rooted in the unconscious and just an expression of the same. one of my favs.
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March 1, 2025d眉r眉st olmak gerekirse i莽erik olarak h芒kim oldu臒um bir konuydu, okurken fark ettim. ama derli toplu bir okuma sunmas谋 bak谋m谋ndan g眉zel bir kaynak
March 13, 2017
harika bir arastirma, harika bir yolculuktu. dilimize cevirenlere binlerce tesekkur.
February 15, 2022
Otto Rank observes several recurring themes within hero myths and proposes an analysis focused more on understanding the configurations and functioning of them from a psychoanalytic perspective rather than a geographic or geopolitc one.
The first part of the book is a summary of several myths, while the second one is Rank's placing under psychoanalytic microscope the leitmotifs found in the heroes' birth. Already in the first part the reader can notice the gradual unfolding of the similarities between the myths: the hero-to-be child's attempts from being born, kings/fathers/grandfathers having prophetic dreams regarding their demise, the newborn's abandonment in a basket on a river and its adoption by wild animals or plebeians, etc., which will be the main focus in the second part of the book by Rank. While short, the book doesn't leave the impression of being rushed and lacking in details and interpretation.
(It would've been a 4, but unfortunately I first read it in Romanian (ew)).
The first part of the book is a summary of several myths, while the second one is Rank's placing under psychoanalytic microscope the leitmotifs found in the heroes' birth. Already in the first part the reader can notice the gradual unfolding of the similarities between the myths: the hero-to-be child's attempts from being born, kings/fathers/grandfathers having prophetic dreams regarding their demise, the newborn's abandonment in a basket on a river and its adoption by wild animals or plebeians, etc., which will be the main focus in the second part of the book by Rank. While short, the book doesn't leave the impression of being rushed and lacking in details and interpretation.
(It would've been a 4, but unfortunately I first read it in Romanian (ew)).
July 17, 2024
(read in the anthology In Quest of the Hero)
As most examples of Freudians tackling whatever it is they choose to tackle, this is a certifiable disaster in scholarship but nevertheless a bit interesting, where it gets two instead of one star.
Quite simply, before I say anything else about Rank's argument, this has to be said: Otto Rank's entire argument here, namely that heroic mythology is modeled upon the "neurotic family romance", that is, rests on the neurotic, childish desires of "mythmakers" (more on this later) to Kill Their Father And Marry Their Mother, which is shown in the myths where the hero is exposed by their real, noble parents, is brought up by animals and/or lowly parents, and then has revenge on the father/king who ordered him exposed and marry his mother, or more frequently, according to Rank, a representative of his mother, which has replaced the real mother through a mechanism of repression and disavowal, is absolutely obliterated when you look at how selective the hero myths on display are here: Theseus is missing, as is Achilles, and Odysseus, GILGAMESH IS HERE NOT THE SUMERIAN CYCLE/BABYLONIAN EPIC BUT THE FUCKING MEANINGLESS "GILGAMOS" STORY IN AELIAN, WHY, there are no Chinese or Japanese heroes, any of which would've immediately obliterated this entire argument; in fact, all heroes here are of Indo-European origin, alongside the Semitic Sargon, which Rank seems to not notice as if this isn't relevant to why a lot of these myths seem similar.
Achilles alone, from the most famous epic ever, obliterates this entire argument: Achilles loves his mother, who is divine, and his father, who is a king. There is no disavowal mechanism, no repression, possible to argue here, unless you want to unironically argue that Agamemnon is the "father" and Briseis is the "mother", in which case you do nothing but reveal your own pathological obsession with incest in which case any struggle between men for a woman, in any case, is some sort of repressed demonstration of a childish desire to get the mother from the father. Odysseus, even more famous, allows even less space for this interpretation: the suitors are young, Odysseus old and paternalistic, he has a son and wife and wants to return to them, he even reunites happily with his father, all of these absolutely go against the supposed model of Rank's.
And what about heroes of other countries? Chinese heroes like Yu The Great, a flood-controller? What about, for a more Indo-European model, what about the Japanese Yamato-Takeru? Who openly yearns for the affection of his royal father?
Beyond that, how he describes it, he seems to think that myths are created like... novels? Short stories? Instead of stories that permeate an entire culture and are thus of a wholly different character than fiction or the dreams of the individual "mythmaker"? Observe:
Okay, they are the mythmaker's "retrograde childhood fantasies" - how exactly, then, do they permeate a whole culture? How is kingship modeled upon these neurotic fantasies?
Well then! If every single towering male-figure is secretly a repressed father, and every woman a mother, then we really have our work cut out for us! Is every shounen fantasy also an Oedipal fantasy, every piece of action fiction? Every romance a secret yearning for Mother since that's all women? Again, what to do in the cases of heroes where this is clearly not the case then? Odysseus, fully adult, Achilles who loves his birth parents and has no adoptive ones?
What about the real Gilgamesh? Is father absent, it's his mother who is a goddess, and in this sense he has a normal relationship with her - he wants no woman that resembles her, or indeed any woman seeing as he rejects Ishtar. Is Ishtar's the repressed sexual desire of a mother for her son as Freud nonsensically claimed because, like Rank, he never actually fucking read the epic because that aligns with literally nothing that happens in it?
Yet, despite all these faults - and they are irredeemable ones - I am nonetheless interested in what Rank has to say to read the whole of his essay. It is interesting that so often the real father dies, that there is a reunion with the mother, etc. The real reason for this is due to the presence of kingship goddesses in the Mediterranean bronze age religions, who suckled kings - Isis, Ishtar, Asherah, Hera, probably the Sun Goddess of Arinna, even the virgin Athena did it - and sometimes did it in animal forms, which eventually became myths still tied to kingship but in an era where this religious background, of Egyptian, Sumerian and Semitic origin, had been mostly supplanted and so relegated to myths which no longer understood this fully, though they certainly did understand them to some degree still. It was a means for kings to cast off their real parentage and claim divine one. But it is still interesting that we see a revolt against the father, a childish collection of brutal, anti-social deeds, like murder of people and animals, sometimes with little provocation, rape, child rape even in Theseus' case with little Helen, etc, and that we hold these characters as prototypical fantasy heroes. It is a bit interesting, even if it is crank entirely wrong bunk, and that is why I read it because it is also true of Freudianism as a whole.
As most examples of Freudians tackling whatever it is they choose to tackle, this is a certifiable disaster in scholarship but nevertheless a bit interesting, where it gets two instead of one star.
Quite simply, before I say anything else about Rank's argument, this has to be said: Otto Rank's entire argument here, namely that heroic mythology is modeled upon the "neurotic family romance", that is, rests on the neurotic, childish desires of "mythmakers" (more on this later) to Kill Their Father And Marry Their Mother, which is shown in the myths where the hero is exposed by their real, noble parents, is brought up by animals and/or lowly parents, and then has revenge on the father/king who ordered him exposed and marry his mother, or more frequently, according to Rank, a representative of his mother, which has replaced the real mother through a mechanism of repression and disavowal, is absolutely obliterated when you look at how selective the hero myths on display are here: Theseus is missing, as is Achilles, and Odysseus, GILGAMESH IS HERE NOT THE SUMERIAN CYCLE/BABYLONIAN EPIC BUT THE FUCKING MEANINGLESS "GILGAMOS" STORY IN AELIAN, WHY, there are no Chinese or Japanese heroes, any of which would've immediately obliterated this entire argument; in fact, all heroes here are of Indo-European origin, alongside the Semitic Sargon, which Rank seems to not notice as if this isn't relevant to why a lot of these myths seem similar.
Achilles alone, from the most famous epic ever, obliterates this entire argument: Achilles loves his mother, who is divine, and his father, who is a king. There is no disavowal mechanism, no repression, possible to argue here, unless you want to unironically argue that Agamemnon is the "father" and Briseis is the "mother", in which case you do nothing but reveal your own pathological obsession with incest in which case any struggle between men for a woman, in any case, is some sort of repressed demonstration of a childish desire to get the mother from the father. Odysseus, even more famous, allows even less space for this interpretation: the suitors are young, Odysseus old and paternalistic, he has a son and wife and wants to return to them, he even reunites happily with his father, all of these absolutely go against the supposed model of Rank's.
And what about heroes of other countries? Chinese heroes like Yu The Great, a flood-controller? What about, for a more Indo-European model, what about the Japanese Yamato-Takeru? Who openly yearns for the affection of his royal father?
Beyond that, how he describes it, he seems to think that myths are created like... novels? Short stories? Instead of stories that permeate an entire culture and are thus of a wholly different character than fiction or the dreams of the individual "mythmaker"? Observe:
Myths are, therefore, created by adults, by means of retrograde childhood fantasies, the hero being credited with the mythmaker鈥檚 personal infantile history. Meanwhile, the tendency of this entire process is the excuse of the individual units of the people for their own infantile revolt against the father.
Okay, they are the mythmaker's "retrograde childhood fantasies" - how exactly, then, do they permeate a whole culture? How is kingship modeled upon these neurotic fantasies?
The last stage of this progressive attenuation of the hostile relation to the father is represented by that form of the myth in which the person of the royal persecutor not only appears entirely detached from that of the father, but has even lost the remotest kinship with the hero鈥檚 family, which he opposes in the most hostile manner, as its enemy (in Feridun, Abraham, King Herod against Jesus, and others). Although of his original threefold character as the father, the king, and the persecutor, he retains only the part of the royal persecutor or the tyrant, the entire plan of the myth conveys the impression that nothing had been changed鈥攁s if the designation 鈥渇ather鈥� had been simply replaced by the term 鈥渢yrant.鈥� This interpretation of the father as a 鈥渢yrant,鈥� which is typical of the infantile ideation, 24 will be found later on to possess the greatest importance for the interpretation of certain abnormal constellations of this complex.
Well then! If every single towering male-figure is secretly a repressed father, and every woman a mother, then we really have our work cut out for us! Is every shounen fantasy also an Oedipal fantasy, every piece of action fiction? Every romance a secret yearning for Mother since that's all women? Again, what to do in the cases of heroes where this is clearly not the case then? Odysseus, fully adult, Achilles who loves his birth parents and has no adoptive ones?
What about the real Gilgamesh? Is father absent, it's his mother who is a goddess, and in this sense he has a normal relationship with her - he wants no woman that resembles her, or indeed any woman seeing as he rejects Ishtar. Is Ishtar's the repressed sexual desire of a mother for her son as Freud nonsensically claimed because, like Rank, he never actually fucking read the epic because that aligns with literally nothing that happens in it?
Yet, despite all these faults - and they are irredeemable ones - I am nonetheless interested in what Rank has to say to read the whole of his essay. It is interesting that so often the real father dies, that there is a reunion with the mother, etc. The real reason for this is due to the presence of kingship goddesses in the Mediterranean bronze age religions, who suckled kings - Isis, Ishtar, Asherah, Hera, probably the Sun Goddess of Arinna, even the virgin Athena did it - and sometimes did it in animal forms, which eventually became myths still tied to kingship but in an era where this religious background, of Egyptian, Sumerian and Semitic origin, had been mostly supplanted and so relegated to myths which no longer understood this fully, though they certainly did understand them to some degree still. It was a means for kings to cast off their real parentage and claim divine one. But it is still interesting that we see a revolt against the father, a childish collection of brutal, anti-social deeds, like murder of people and animals, sometimes with little provocation, rape, child rape even in Theseus' case with little Helen, etc, and that we hold these characters as prototypical fantasy heroes. It is a bit interesting, even if it is crank entirely wrong bunk, and that is why I read it because it is also true of Freudianism as a whole.
December 30, 2018
Mitlerin benzer 枚zellikleri 眉zerinde durmu艧 ve konu edinen mitleri k谋saca aktarm谋艧. Son b枚l眉mde bu benzerlikler 眉zerine psikanaliz de臒erlendirmeler yap谋lm谋艧. Diplotlardan farkl谋 kaynaklara yol almak m眉mk眉n.
June 25, 2012
My therapist made me this. Now I am thinking about swan knights and rivers.
July 6, 2021
Great book
September 30, 2023
3.25 // What's the makeup of a hero? Tennis legend Arthur Ashe described heroism as something "remarkably sober and very undramatic. Not the urge to surpass all others...but the urge to serve others." That is quite different from Otto Rank's exploration of heroism in myth. According to Rank's summation, "The hero is the child of most distinguished parents; usually the son of a king. His origin is preceded by difficulties, or prolonged barrenness, or secret intercourse of the parents, due to external prohibition or obstacles. During the pregnancy, there is a prophecy, in form of a dream or oracle, cautioning against his birth, and usually threatening danger to the father. As a rule, he is surrendered to the water, in a box. He is then saved by animals, or by lowly people (shepherds) and is suckled by a female animal. After he has grown up, he finds his distinguished parents [and] takes his revenge on his father."
Any of that sound familiar? In The Myth of the Birth of the Hero, Rank explores recurring patterns in myths from different cultures. These patterns include miraculous conceptions and virgin births, exposed babies in baskets, nurturing animals, ocean exiles, and a lot of baby and father murdering (and eating).
Rank's work had major influences on writers such as Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung and though this one was pretty dry (despite the many babies in river baskets), it's no doubt a very interesting examination of common elements found throughout mythological writing. 42b23
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Any of that sound familiar? In The Myth of the Birth of the Hero, Rank explores recurring patterns in myths from different cultures. These patterns include miraculous conceptions and virgin births, exposed babies in baskets, nurturing animals, ocean exiles, and a lot of baby and father murdering (and eating).
Rank's work had major influences on writers such as Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung and though this one was pretty dry (despite the many babies in river baskets), it's no doubt a very interesting examination of common elements found throughout mythological writing. 42b23
Say hello on IG @jux.booksbinge or @nonfictionfervor
October 30, 2024
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鬲乇噩賲賴 讴鬲丕亘 賳蹖夭 亘爻蹖丕乇 乇賵丕賳 亘賵丿 賵 倬丕賳賵蹖爻鈥屬囏й屰� 賲鬲毓丿丿 賵 鬲賵囟蹖丨丕鬲 噩丕賳亘蹖 賲鬲乇噩賲 丿乇 丨蹖賳 賲胤丕賱毓賴 讴鬲丕亘 讴賲讴 卮丕蹖丕賳蹖 亘賴 賮賴賲 賵 丌卮賳丕蹖蹖 亘丕 亘乇禺蹖 賳賲賵丿.
January 6, 2025
Otto Rank foi por um tempo um dos disc铆pulos mais aguerridos de Freud, at茅 que... como muitos disc铆pulos de Freud... rompeu com ele por pensar diferente de seu pretenso mestre. Rank teve muita influ锚ncia na psican谩lise moderna e, como Jung tamb茅m se aproximou do inconsciente coletivo, dos mitos, dos arqu茅tipos e do esoterismo para explicar nossas puls玫es, atitudes e comportamentos. O Mito do Nascimento do Her贸i 茅 um destes livros baseados nessa influ锚ncia. Achei que nele iria encontrar um profundo estudo psicol贸gico sobre o psiquismo do her贸i, mas n茫o 茅 bem assim. O livro 茅 dividido em tr锚s partes. Na primeira e mais curta, Rank fala sobre o her贸i e os mitos. Na segunda, a mais longa e cansativa, ele elenca diversos her贸is mitol贸gicos e suas 丑颈蝉迟贸谤颈补s, do nascimento 脿 morte. Por fim, na terceira parte, ele tenta coadunar as coincid锚ncias que existem entre essas narrativas e sua influ锚ncia na psique humana. Mesmo que ele tenha sido um pioneiro em analisar essa correla莽茫o (o que acho que n茫o foi) seu texto 茅 extremamente cansativo e n茫o traz nada de grandioso em sua an谩lise como vendem o livro.
March 21, 2025
The prominent civilized nations, such as the Babylonians, Egyptians, Hebrews, and Hindoos, the inhabitants of Iran and of Persia, the Greeks and the Romans as well as the Teutons and others, all began at an early stage to glorify their heroes, mythical princes and kings, founders of religions, dynasties, empires or cities, in brief their national heroes, in a number of poetic tales and legends. The history of the birth and of the early life of these personalities came to be especially invested with fantastic features, which in different nations even though widely separated by space and entirely independent of each other present a baffling similarity, or in part a literal correspondence. Many investigators have long been impressed with this fact, and one of the chief problems of mythical research still consists in the elucidation of the reason for the extensive, analogies in the fundamental outlines of mythical tales, which are rendered still more enigmatical by the unanimity in certain details, and their reappearance in most of the mythical groupings.
Sargon
Moses
Karna
艗诲颈辫耻蝉
Paris
Telephos
Perseus
Gilgamos
Kyros
Tristan
Romulus
Hercules
Jesus
Siegfried
Lohengrin
Sargon
Moses
Karna
艗诲颈辫耻蝉
Paris
Telephos
Perseus
Gilgamos
Kyros
Tristan
Romulus
Hercules
Jesus
Siegfried
Lohengrin
July 25, 2024
This book looks at myths from a psychological or rather a psychoanalytical lens. The basic task the author undertakes is explaining commonalities in various hero birth myths: a prophecy/dream that portends ill for the ruler/ father if the child is given birth, the failed attempts by father/ ruler to kill the hero/ all boys his age, the 'exposing' of the infant in a chest to be floated over a water body, discovery by lowly foster parents/ nursing by an animal etc and later the hero either killing the father/ruler or avenging the father's killer.
Much is explained in terms of the Freudian Oedipus Complex and Family Romance. The writing is at times dense, but still, if you put effort you can understand the author's basic premise and lens and some of it does make sense.
This is my first exposure to Otto rank and excited by the way he tries providing psychological explanations for myths...an endeavour that is dear to my heart too.
Much is explained in terms of the Freudian Oedipus Complex and Family Romance. The writing is at times dense, but still, if you put effort you can understand the author's basic premise and lens and some of it does make sense.
This is my first exposure to Otto rank and excited by the way he tries providing psychological explanations for myths...an endeavour that is dear to my heart too.
February 26, 2019
This was an interesting essay, especially since it was the first psychological interpretation of a myth that I have read that did not exaggerate the role of sexuality. Rank first shares with the reader the vast literature of birth myths, from Cyrus, Siegfried and Perseus to Moses and Jesus. He then argues for the role of childish view of one鈥檚 parents for the explanation of the duplication of these into a noble parentage and a humble one. This duplication is also observed where the role of the father and tyrant is slowly split in some culture鈥檚 myths. It is in such common sense explanations that Rank convinced me of the plausibility of his interpretations. Overall, this was an interesting essay definitely worth the read for anyone who has been curious of the surprising similarities in the myths from wildly different cultures.
February 16, 2020
Otto Rank'谋n mitlerin ve efsanelerin neden benzer konular谋 ve benzer olay 枚rg眉leri bulundu臒unu anlatt谋臒谋 bir kitab谋.
Giri艧 k谋sm谋nda mitlerin ortak y枚nlerini a莽谋klamaya 莽al谋艧an mitolojik teorilerden bahsediliyor.
Birinci b枚l眉mde k谋saca baz谋 mitlerden bahsediliyor: Sargon, G谋lgam谋艧, Oedipus, Romulus, Kiros...
陌kinci b枚l眉mde yazar benzerliklerin sebeplerini a莽谋klamaya 莽al谋艧谋yor. Mitlerin benzerli臒ini genellikle Freud'un g枚r眉艧lerine dayand谋rarak a莽谋klam谋艧. Oedipus kompleksini mitlerin benzerliklerini a莽谋klamalar谋nda kullanm谋艧. Baz谋 mitlerde ge莽en yeni do臒an bebe臒in nehre bir sepette b谋rak谋lmas谋 ve terk edilmesi olay谋n谋 ise do臒umla ba臒da艧t谋rm谋艧.
Kitab谋n tek olumsuz taraf谋 olaylar谋 ve 枚rnekleri ayr谋nt谋l谋 a莽谋klamay谋p olay谋n ayr谋nt谋l谋 anlat谋ld谋臒谋 kitaplar谋 kaynak g枚sterip ge莽mesiydi. Kaynak g枚sterilen kitaplar谋n bir莽o臒u T眉rk莽e olarak yay谋nlanmam谋艧 kitaplard谋.
Giri艧 k谋sm谋nda mitlerin ortak y枚nlerini a莽谋klamaya 莽al谋艧an mitolojik teorilerden bahsediliyor.
Birinci b枚l眉mde k谋saca baz谋 mitlerden bahsediliyor: Sargon, G谋lgam谋艧, Oedipus, Romulus, Kiros...
陌kinci b枚l眉mde yazar benzerliklerin sebeplerini a莽谋klamaya 莽al谋艧谋yor. Mitlerin benzerli臒ini genellikle Freud'un g枚r眉艧lerine dayand谋rarak a莽谋klam谋艧. Oedipus kompleksini mitlerin benzerliklerini a莽谋klamalar谋nda kullanm谋艧. Baz谋 mitlerde ge莽en yeni do臒an bebe臒in nehre bir sepette b谋rak谋lmas谋 ve terk edilmesi olay谋n谋 ise do臒umla ba臒da艧t谋rm谋艧.
Kitab谋n tek olumsuz taraf谋 olaylar谋 ve 枚rnekleri ayr谋nt谋l谋 a莽谋klamay谋p olay谋n ayr谋nt谋l谋 anlat谋ld谋臒谋 kitaplar谋 kaynak g枚sterip ge莽mesiydi. Kaynak g枚sterilen kitaplar谋n bir莽o臒u T眉rk莽e olarak yay谋nlanmam谋艧 kitaplard谋.
March 10, 2022
I did have to put my brain into overdrive to grasp Otto' essay on the recurring patterns of myths more specifically as it relates to the psychological underpinning of the prophetic child birth that will supersede his father (the father represents someone who not only he looks up to but also exceed expectation in the world they grow into, to no longer remain a child but a man, an adult); also, the sexual tension where the recurring pattern from different cultural hero myths the child towards the mother (metaphor separate himself from his father and court a woman similar to his mother but not necessarily marry in the literal, which back then was probably the case but this is how I interpret the metaphor) and the father he must usurp to earn his ruler-ship (earn his place as a man). Otto and Freud share many views where the second part of it is explored in the book
October 20, 2020
Quite interesting as far as psychoanalytic treatises on myth go. A vivid showcasing of one of the myriad ways in which those stories seemingly omnipresent to all cultures can be read, with, of course, an accompanyingly universal "life explanation." I think more could have been said on the matter of the more humble parents (as well as a further expounding on the relatively unexpansive "certainty" of the mother vs the uncertainty of the father, as a matter of addressing the Olympian/Transcendental nature of the fathers present on this list, namely in Zeus, YHVH, and Surya, all of whom are heavenly Gods), but that aside I've no complaints. Oh, except for perhaps a further look at Gilgamesh-whose "certain mother" was a deity, and whose father was mortal.
February 3, 2023
I think this book should be required reading for anyone formally studying literature from an era. This book is important because it helps to understand the role of the hero while balancing Freud's Oedipal Complex. Otto Rank separated himself from Freud to go off on his own. He goes beyond Freud to analyze the birth of the hero as the primary act of any hero who survives birth. I think students of modern literature who never venture in earlier periods can gain a lot from reading this book. A hero is a hero whether he is Jesus or GIlgamesh.
May 13, 2019
Myths In Different Times and Places Repeat Similar Plots
Too Freudian for me. I was interested in the similarities of the various myths, which I have noticed for some time. I'm not sure they are all born out of sexual tension with the father that is supposedly generally experienced by humans. I think there are other, more interesting reasons.
Too Freudian for me. I was interested in the similarities of the various myths, which I have noticed for some time. I'm not sure they are all born out of sexual tension with the father that is supposedly generally experienced by humans. I think there are other, more interesting reasons.
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