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Foundation (Publication Order) #4

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First published October 1, 1982

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Isaac Asimov

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Works of prolific Russian-American writer Isaac Asimov include popular explanations of scientific principles, The Foundation Trilogy (1951-1953), and other volumes of fiction.

Isaac Asimov, a professor of biochemistry, wrote as a highly successful author, best known for his books.

Asimov, professor, generally considered of all time, edited more than five hundred books and ninety thousand letters and postcards. He published in nine of the ten major categories of the Dewey decimal classification but lacked only an entry in the category of philosophy (100).

People widely considered Asimov, a master of the genre alongside Robert Anson Heinlein and Arthur Charles Clarke as the "big three" during his lifetime. He later tied Galactic Empire and the Robot into the same universe as his most famous series to create a unified "future history" for his stories much like those that Heinlein pioneered and Cordwainer Smith and Poul Anderson previously produced. He penned "Nightfall," voted in 1964 as the best short story of all time; many persons still honor this title. He also produced well mysteries, fantasy, and a great quantity of nonfiction. Asimov used Paul French, the pen name, for the Lucky Starr, series of juvenile novels.

Most books of Asimov in a historical way go as far back to a time with possible question or concept at its simplest stage. He often provides and mentions well nationalities, birth, and death dates for persons and etymologies and pronunciation guides for technical terms. Guide to Science, the tripartite set Understanding Physics, and Chronology of Science and Discovery exemplify these books.

Asimov, a long-time member, reluctantly served as vice president of Mensa international and described some members of that organization as "brain-proud and aggressive about their IQs." He took more pleasure as president of the humanist association. The asteroid 5020 Asimov, the magazine Asimov's Science Fiction, an elementary school in Brooklyn in New York, and two different awards honor his name.


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805 reviews5,148 followers
March 6, 2022
That麓s at least as good as the original, especially because it explains everything, has some big, we are so small, moments, and adds an extra layer of depth to the Foundation myth, ending it so smoothly that I will just pretend that there were no other, far weaker parts. Never!

Change in style throughout a career
Asimovs麓evolution towards an a bit less complicated and, sometimes, difficult to follow author can be seen here too. While the original Foundation is reaching Clarke and Lem levels of integrating so many innuendos and ideas that little minds like mine get blown, Foundations麓edge is a far easier to enter and follow milestone of satiric, smart sci fi.

Now that麓s a good illustration of how unimportant humankind really is
But of course I won麓t tell you why, because this would be evil spoilering, but just be prepared to get shown how unimportant, tiny, and helpless we little naked apes really are. This also includes some sudden plot twists one doesn麓t see coming that let one dive deeper into the world of Foundation.

Psi vs tech, hearth vs logic, emotional vs rational
What a great, old premise to make a story, especially if some kind of mysterious plot is rotating around the motivations of 2 perfectly coordinated fractions.

Good old alien influence
Just the moment one starts thinking about pretty badass humans, aliens come and make humans look so small. It may be difficult to follow this whole thing, because it is somewhat interlinked to the rest of the series too, but can easily be ignored too because it isn麓t really an essential part of the actual story. But it麓s a pretty fine bonus goodie for the ones who are already into this monumental epos.

Tropes show how literature is conceptualized and created and which mixture of elements makes works and genres unique:
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131 reviews13.6k followers
January 21, 2020
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芦The First Galactic Empire was falling. It had been decaying and breaking down for centuries and only one man fully realized that fact. He was Han Seldon, the last great scientist of the First Empire, and it was he who perfected psychohistory-the science of human behavior reduced to mathematical equations禄

The story so far: a large part of the galaxy is under is controlled by the Foundation, and the Seldon Plan, in place for 500 years, is perfectly progressing. So perfectly, enough to raise doubts about its existence...

Here we come to chapter four of the Foundation series (if we do not consider also two preludes, and , and one sequel, ). And we come probably to the best among these four, written 30 years later after the publication of the previous three books. A more mature distributes science-fiction ideas about the colonization of the universe left, right and centre, increasingly persuasive and tantalizing. The sensation that in the distant future described by Asimov the loop will be closed is strong now. Only one more book. We can do that.

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芦Il Primo Impero Galattico stava crollando. Erano secoli che si stava sgretolando e disfacendo, e solo un uomo si rendeva pienamente conto della cosa. Quell'uomo era Hari Seldon, l'ultimo grande scienziato del Primo Impero. Era stato lui a perfezionare la psicostoria, ovvero la scienza del comportamento umano espressa in equazioni matematiche禄

La situazione finora: la Fondazione controlla oramai buona parte della Galassia, ed il Piano Seldon, in atto da 500 anni, procede perfettamente. Troppo perfettamente, tanto da generare dubbi sulla sua stessa esistenza...

Giungiamo al quarto capitolo del ciclo della Fondazione (se non contiamo anche i due preludi, e , e il sequel ). E giungiamo probabilmente al migliore dei quattro, non a caso scritto ben trent'anni dopo la pubblicazione dei primi tre. Un pi霉 maturo, che distribuisce a destra e a manca fantascientifiche teorie di colonizzazione dell'Universo sempre pi霉 convincenti e stuzzicanti. La sensazione che nel lontano futuro descritto da Asimov si sta per chiudere il cerchio in maniera decisiva 猫 forte. Manca un solo libro. Ce la possiamo fare.

Voto: 8

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3,948 reviews1,405 followers
July 14, 2021
Robot/Empire/Foundation. Book #13: Chronologically the sixth book in the Foundation series, published 31 years after the first Foundation book! The Foundation's concern that the Second Foundation exists, and the Second Foundation's concern about the Foundation comes to a head, when both entities start fearing the existence of a third force in the universe!

More intricately plotted than many of the other books in the series, with focus on the home worlds of both Foundations as well as an interesting cast of mostly outlier characters, I will go against what some purists might say and proclaim that decades into his writing career Asimov is still at the top of his game! I presume many purists could (rightly/) claim that this book is an overt attempt to fully join up Asimov's three primary serials, but for me, what he does, he does magnificently with a story set at one time that almost perfectly captures the many millennia of his constructed universe, a universe that I feel will never be surpassed for it's continuity, detail and creativity! 8 out of 12.

Funnily enough after reading this book, I thought that this would be a massive hit in the right hands as a TV series... and lo and behold, it's coming in September 2021! The only downside being I presume they won't be starting at the real beginning which is the Robot series :(.
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May 22, 2022
Foundation's Edge (Foundation, #4), Isaac Asimov

Foundation's Edge (1982) is a science fiction novel by American writer Isaac Asimov, the fourth book in the Foundation Series. It was written more than thirty years after the stories of the original Foundation trilogy, due to years of pressure by fans and editors on Asimov to write another, and, according to Asimov himself, the amount of the payment offered by the publisher.

It was his first novel to ever land on The New York Times best-seller list, after 262 books and 44 years of writing. Foundation's Edge won both the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1983 and the Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel in 1983, and was nominated for the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1982. Five hundred years after the establishment of the Foundation, the Mayor of Terminus, Harla Branno, is basking in a political glow, her policies having been vindicated by the recent successful resolution of a Seldon Crisis. Golan Trevize, a former officer of the Navy and now a member of Council, believes the Second Foundation (which is almost universally thought to be extinct) still exists and is controlling events. He attempts to question the continued existence of the Seldon Plan during a Council session and Branno has him arrested on a charge of treason. Branno also believes that the Second Foundation still exists and is in control, but she cannot admit it publicly for political reasons, and treats that as a state secret, hence her alarm and her swift action.

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July 21, 2016
First published in 1982 almost 30 years after the last volume of the iconic original Foundation Trilogy, namely , I was skeptical that Asimov would be able to maintain his mojo post the Golden Age of Science Fiction when he was publishing his most iconic sci-fi stories and novels. Of his 80s books I only read which I thought was quite good but not in the same league as his 50s robot novels and . Still, I liked it enough to rekindle my interest in the Foundation series of which I have only read the original trilogy in my teens. For some reason I neglected the series from the 4th volume onwards and to catch up I did not want to simply dive into it as it was decades ago since I read the previous books and I have gotten most of the background details. So I reread the trilogy a couple of months ago and enjoyed it very much in spite of already knowing the major plot twists. The Foundation saga remains quite potent after all these years.

Foundation's Edge is the 4th volume I speak of. It is set 500 years after the establishment of the Foundation. is going swimmingly and the First Foundation is at the peak of its strength having dominated all the neighboring planets through its superior technology and military might. The people of the Foundation believe that the threat from the mind controlling Second Foundation has been eliminated and there is now only one Foundation, theirs. Alas someone always shows up to rock the boat otherwise we would not have much of a story. Enters one Golan Trevize, a Council member and an original thinker; a dangerous combination.

It occurs to Trevize that the Seldon Plan has been going too well of late and there is surely something wrong when things are just too right. It is unnatural for things to always go according to plan, some deviations must occur. Trevize believes this is an indication that the Foundation is being surreptitiously controlled by puppet masters from the dreaded Second Foundation who will ensure the Seldon Plan reaches fruition and then step in as lord and masters. Voicing such a controversial idea turns out to be unwise as he is summarily kicked off the planet Terminus (home of the Foundation) with a secret mission to locate the Second Foundation in order for the First to do away with them once and for all. Many surprises ensue.

In spite of not being action packed as such, I find Foundation's Edge to be a gripping page-turner. The plot tends to move through dialogue rather than narration. Every page seems to be stuffed with dialogue as characters are always discussing or arguing about something. The climax is also played through dialogue. This is a surprisingly effective method of storytelling as the book is never dull. Asimov writes reasonably good dialogue, but his characters do have a tendency to belabor their points at times.

Asimov鈥檚 major strengths are his epic ideas, world building and plot; these are the reason he is one of the most popular sci-fi authors of all time (possibly the most popular). His world building here is better than ever, I particularly love the telepathic society and culture of the Second Foundation on Trantor and the strange people of Gaia. It is also lovely to see the robots and their 鈥淭hree Laws鈥� worked into the Foundation universe, plus a clever explanation for the absence of aliens in the Foundation universe.

Asimov is often criticized for his utilitarian prose and thin characters (the same criticisms leveled toward most Golden Age authors). While he was no Dickens or Oscar Wilde in term of prose, characterization and dialogue I find these criticisms a little unfair. His prose is not extraordinary, but it is uncluttered and very readable, it is never clumsy or semi-literate; he never insults the readers鈥� intelligence. His dialogue is often full of amusing witty banter and sardonic remarks. As for his characters, while some of the supporting characters are indeed flat his central characters and protagonists are often memorable. After decades away from his books I still remember very well Hari Seldon, The Mule, Susan Calvin (from ), Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw (from several robot novels). As for Foundation's Edge's characters, Golan Trevize, and several lead characters are quite vivid and memorable also. In contrast I can not remember a single character from Arthur C. Clarke鈥檚 books (except Hal 9000 and Dave Bowman); no disrespect to Sir Arthur though, he has his own brand of greatness.

The climax of Foundation's Edge is just wonderful and the epilogue leads nicely to the next book . Asimov always seems to enjoy telling his Foundation stories tremendously and his enjoyment is infectious. Can鈥檛 wait!
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October 14, 2023
This review contains multiple spoilers for the whole "Foundation" series

I am surprised to find so little criticism of what to me came across as a train-wreck of a book. Asimov tells us in the preface to the following volume that his publishers tried for thirty years to get him to continue with "Foundation" after the end of the initial trilogy, and he always refused. He should have stuck to his guns.

Asimov says that he started writing the series in 1941, in response to a suggestion from John W. Campbell Jr. At the time, Asimov was 21 and had published a handful of stories. Campbell was ten years older and had already been editor of Astounding Science Fiction for three years. He was one of the most powerful people in the SF world, and the young Asimov must have been in awe of him. I get a strong feeling that the real creative impulse behind the original "Foundation" trilogy was Campbell, and that he contributed the key ideas. I wonder whether Asimov even completely understood them: this would explain both why he was so reluctant to continue, and why the result was so poor. I offer two pieces of evidence, one big and one small.

The big piece of evidence is the role of psychohistory. This is the core of the original series, the thing that ties all the action together. Borrowing from Tolstoy, Marx and the new discipline of quantum mechanics, we're asked to imagine that a true mathematical science of history has been developed which allows accurate prediction of the future. The prediction is statistical in nature; the larger the number of people involved, the more accurate it becomes. The mathematics is ferociously complex, but the genius Hari Seldon has managed to solve the technical problems.

Seldon uses psychohistory to discover that the Galactic Empire, which has existed for over twelve thousand years and seems invincible, is in fact on the verge of collapse. He goes further and finds a way to mitigate the effects of the Empire's downfall, so that a better Empire can arise after only a thousand years. He creates two Foundations to carry out this task. The first, overt, is the seed which will grow into the new Empire. The second, deeply hidden, holds the psychohistorians who supervise the Plan and correct the inevitable errors which develop as it unfolds. But the true magic of the books is that the Plan, on the whole, requires little supervision. It is Seldon's mathematical grasp of history's inevitability that lets him control it by making tiny nudges. It is necessary to the correct functioning of the mathematics that the Second Foundation remains concealed, and this provides much of the drama in the later part of the trilogy. Unfortunately, the plot also requires the introduction of the Mule, a mutant with extrasensory mental powers. To counter him, the Second Foundation are given similar powers.

In the new book, the sixty-year-old Asimov, now working without Campbell, has completely revised the role of psychohistory. Now it is hardly more than a background decoration: the members of the Second Foundation do not appear to be mathematicians except in name, and the extrasensory powers have been developed to the point where they take over the narrative. The Seldon Plan is no longer kept moving by the force of historical inevitability, but by the rather mundane influence of various telepathic supermen. Asimov seems to have forgotten the point of his own series.

That was my big piece of evidence, but somehow I find the small one even more convincing. In the wonderful denouement of Second Foundation, we learn that the mysterious First Speaker, the leader of the Second Foundation, is none other than the comic farmer Preem Palver. As a twelve-year-old, I loved the book's final sentence, where I discovered how cleverly I'd been tricked. Of course, "Preem" means "First" in rustic Trantorian dialect! And "Palver", a word that sounds a bit like "palaver", must mean "Speaker"! Why hadn't I noticed, it had been under my nose the whole time! But in the new book, to my astonishment, I found that Asimov had apparently forgotten a key plot twist in one of his best-known novels. "Preem Palver" is no longer a title: it's the name of the specific First Speaker from Second Foundation, who is referred to multiple times. Worse still, in Forward the Foundation, the prequel written shortly before Asimov's death, we're introduced to a character whose family name is "Palver" and given to understand that they are Preem's ancestor. I was shocked. How was this possible?

Well, as I've had occasion to discover myself, increasing age does make your memory worse. Maybe Asimov simply forgot, and that's all there was to it. But he was only sixty-one, and that seems pretty young for such a dramatic example of a senior moment. I have trouble believing he forgot. I find it more plausible that he never knew. I think Second Foundation was written in a frantic hurry, the way all those pulp novels were written at the time. Asimov got the ending from Campbell, he scribbled it in without properly understanding the point, and he moved on to something else. And then when he submitted the manuscript of Foundation's Edge, his new editor was embarrassed to tell him what they surely noticed. Or, who knows, maybe they weren't a hardcore Asimov fan and they missed it too.

There's a metafictional novel waiting to be written here.
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July 16, 2022
Esta es la historia que estaba buscando cuando comenc茅 a leer el Universo de Fundaci贸n. Una historia que me volviera sumergir en la sensaci贸n que tuve cuando le铆 la trilog铆a original. Una space opera con un enfoque a trav茅s de los siglos para poder llevar a la Fundaci贸n del Primero al Segundo Imperio Gal谩ctico.

Cuando le铆 las dos precuelas a la trilog铆a, donde vemos a Hari Seldon inventar y desarrollar la Psicohistoria, me quejaba precisamente de que aquellas historias no ten铆an el esp铆ritu de la Fundaci贸n. Se situaban en un solo planeta, con un solo protagonista y con unos hechos repetitivos y superfluos.

Aqu铆 sin embargo nos encontramos con personajes que traman estrategias a trav茅s de los a帽os, distintos puntos de vista de los hechos, tramas pol铆ticas, capas que se van desvelando una tras otra y cuando piensas que ya has llegado al misterio final aparece otra tanda de sorpresas.

Y, 驴por qu茅 no se lleva las 5 estrellas? Pues tal vez porque me ha tocado leerlo m谩s mayor que cuando le铆 Fundaci贸n con 14 a帽os. Ahora veo m谩s las costuras y el estilo repetitivo y cansino en algunos aspectos de Asimov. Adem谩s tambi茅n creo que utiliza un par de veces un "deus ex machina" para salir del paso. Y tampoco le perdono ese final cortado con guillotina para seguir en el siguiente libro.

Pero si no te pones quisquilloso como yo, disfrutar谩s de una gran historia sobre la Fundaci贸n muy parecida a las originales.
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November 17, 2021
So this is the first time I'm reading the companion books to the original Foundation trilogy and while I'm glad to read something Asimov penned himself, it's still not as good as I had hoped. Certainly not as good as the original trilogy.

It's been almost 500 years since the last book. Terminus is ruling, the mayor beign the most powerful person and the First Foundation dictating the way forward for humanity.
A politician is doubting the Seldon Plan (its actual existence) and trying to make people see that the Second Foundation was actually never destroyed but is holding the strings to this day. He is subsequently exiled and sent on a quest with a historian (because the mayor believes the same although she can't admit to it openly).
Officially, they are looking for the fabled birthplace of the human race (spoiler alert: Earth), though they actually want to find the Second Foundation. In a way, they succeed in at least one part of that plan. But not until they find a planet called Gaia that is so much more than a planet and which calls into question everything we thought we know until now.

The direction the author took this in ... I'm not sure I'm sold on it, to be honest ... I mean, to have the Foundations introduced the way he did, only to then have a THIRD power? Perhaps this will become more clear with the next/final book in the series. Maybe Daneel will have make a return even? For what this is, it wasn't enough for me, unfortunately.

I was also more than surprised about the new MC, Trevize, and the key role he played in the end. Which led to another thing that robbed me the wrong way: how he played that key role in the end. Again, maybe it will become clear later, maybe there is a good reason but at this point, it just didn't make a whole lot of sense.

The writing, though, was as wonderful as ever. Sadly, that wasn't enough for a higher rating this time but I can't wait for the conclusion now.
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袛胁械褌械 肖芯薪写邪褑懈懈 褋邪 蟹邪褌褗薪邪谢懈 胁 褋胁芯懈褌械 锌芯谢懈褌懈褔械褋泻懈 懈薪褌褉懈谐懈, 芯斜邪褔械 胁 写邪写械薪 屑芯屑械薪褌 褋邪 胁褗胁谢械褔械薪懈 胁 褋谢芯卸薪邪 锌谢械褌械薪懈褑邪 芯褌 薪械锌褉械写胁懈写械薪懈 褋褗斜懈褌懈褟. 小褗胁械褌薪懈泻褗褌 孝褉懈胁邪泄蟹 懈 懈褋褌芯褉懈泻褗褌 袩械谢芯褉邪褌 褋邪 懈蟹锌褉邪褌械薪懈 胁 懈蟹谐薪邪薪懈械 芯褌 袩褗褉胁邪褌邪 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟 (懈 械胁械薪褌褍邪谢薪芯 泻邪褌芯 锌褉懈屑邪屑泻邪 蟹邪 袙褌芯褉邪褌邪 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟), 邪 胁锌芯褋谢械写褋褌胁懈械 褋械 芯褌锌褉邪胁褟褌 薪邪 写邪谢械褔薪芯 锌褗褌械褕械褋褌胁懈械 胁 褌褗褉褋械薪械 薪邪 蟹邪谐邪写褗褔薪邪褌邪 锌谢邪薪械褌邪 袚械褟...






鈥炐澭徯盒靶� 褋懈, 锌芯屑懈褋谢懈 褌芯泄 褋 褑褟谢邪褌邪 谐芯褉褔懈谢泻邪, 泻芯褟褌芯 斜械褕械 褋锌芯褋芯斜械薪 写邪 褋褗斜械褉械, 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟褌邪 褟泻芯 褋械 斜械 胁褌芯褉邪褔懈谢邪 胁 斜褗写械褖械褌芯. 啸芯褉邪褌邪 斜褟褏邪 芯斜谢邪写邪薪懈 芯褌 屑懈褋褗谢褌邪 蟹邪 袙褌芯褉邪褌邪 褎芯薪写邪褑懈褟 懈 蟹邪 褋胁芯褟褌邪 褋褗写斜邪 懈 薪褟屑邪褏邪 薪锟斤拷褌芯 胁褉械屑械, 薪懈褌芯 卸械谢邪薪懈械 写邪 锌芯谐谢械卸写邪褌 薪邪蟹邪写 胁 屑懈薪邪谢芯褌芯, 邪 薪邪 胁褋懈褔泻芯 芯褌谐芯褉械 褋械 写褉邪蟹薪械褏邪 芯褌 芯薪懈褟, 泻芯懈褌芯 谐芯 锌褉邪胁械褏邪.鈥�


鈥炐毿拘承把傂� 写胁邪屑邪 谐芯胁芯褉懈褌械谢懈 芯褌 袙褌芯褉邪褌邪 褎芯薪写邪褑懈褟 芯斜褖褍胁邪褌 锌芯屑械卸写褍 褋懈, 械蟹懈泻褗褌 薪邪 褌芯胁邪 芯斜褖褍胁邪薪械 薪械 锌褉懈谢懈褔邪 薪邪 薪懈泻芯泄 写褉褍谐 胁 袚邪谢邪泻褌懈泻邪褌邪. 孝芯胁邪 械 械蟹懈泻 泻芯谢泻芯褌芯 薪邪 写褍屑懈, 褌芯谢泻芯胁邪 懈 薪邪 褋胁芯斜芯写薪懈 卸械褋褌芯胁械, 邪 褋褗褖芯 懈 薪邪 写芯谢芯胁械薪懈 褌械薪写械薪褑懈懈 胁 屑械薪褌邪谢薪懈褌械 锌褉芯屑械薪懈.
效褍卸写 褔芯胁械泻 斜懈 褔褍谢 屑邪谢泻芯 懈谢懈 薪邪锌褉邪胁芯 薪懈褖芯, 薪芯 锌芯 屑懈褋谢芯胁械薪 锌褗褌 蟹邪 屑薪芯谐芯 泻褉邪褌泻芯 胁褉械屑械 斜懈胁邪褕械 褉邪蟹屑械薪械薪邪 芯谐褉芯屑薪邪 懈薪褎芯褉屑邪褑懈褟, 屑邪泻邪褉 薪邪褔懈薪褗褌 薪邪 芯斜褖褍胁邪薪械 写邪 斜械褕械 薪械褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪械屑 胁 斜褍泻胁邪谢薪懈褟 屑褍 胁懈写 蟹邪 胁锟斤拷械泻懈 写褉褍谐, 芯褋胁械薪 蟹邪 褌褉械褌懈 谐芯胁芯褉懈褌械谢.
袝蟹懈泻褗褌 薪邪 谐芯胁芯褉懈褌械谢懈褌械 懈屑邪褕械 锌褉械写懈屑褋褌胁芯褌芯 薪邪 褋泻芯褉芯褋褌褌邪 懈 斜械蟹泻褉邪泄薪邪褌邪 懈蟹褌褗薪褔械薪芯褋褌, 邪谢邪 懈 薪械写芯褋褌邪褌褗泻邪 写邪 锌褉邪胁懈 锌芯褔褌懈 薪械胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯 褋泻褉懈胁邪薪械褌芯 薪邪 懈褋褌懈薪褋泻芯褌芯 屑薪械薪懈械.鈥�


鈥炩€� 小褌褉褍胁邪 屑懈 褋械, 袚芯谢邪薪, 褔械 薪邪锌褉械写褗泻褗褌 薪邪 褑懈胁懈谢懈蟹邪褑懈褟褌邪 薪械 械 薪懈褖芯 写褉褍谐芯 芯褋胁械薪 芯谐褉邪薪懈褔邪胁邪薪械 薪邪 胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯褋褌褌邪 写邪 褋械 褍褋邪屑芯褌懈褕.鈥�


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鈥炩€� 孝芯胁邪 薪械 械 屑薪芯谐芯 褍褉斜邪薪懈蟹懈褉邪薪 褋胁褟褌. 袧懈泻芯谐邪 锌芯-褉邪薪芯 薪械 褋褗屑 斜懈谢 胁 小械泄褕械谢褋泻懈褟 褋褗褞蟹, 薪芯 褋锌芯褉械写 懈薪褎芯褉屑邪褑懈褟褌邪 芯褌 泻芯屑锌褞褌褗褉邪 褌褍泻 褋邪 褋泻谢芯薪薪懈 写邪 褋械 胁泻芯锌褔胁邪褌 胁 屑懈薪邪谢芯褌芯. 袙 芯褔懈褌械 薪邪 褑褟谢邪褌邪 袚邪谢邪泻褌懈泻邪 褌械褏薪懈泻邪褌邪 褋械 邪褋芯褑懈懈褉邪 褋 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟褌邪 懈 褌邪屑, 泻褗写械褌芯 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟褌邪 薪械 械 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪邪, 褋褗褖械褋褌胁褍胁邪 褌械薪写械薪褑懈褟 蟹邪 锌褉懈写褗褉卸邪薪械 泻褗屑 褌褉邪写懈褑懈懈褌械 鈥� 褋 懈蟹泻谢褞褔械薪懈械, 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪 褋械, 薪邪 胁褗芯褉褗卸械薪懈褟褌邪.鈥�


鈥炐┬拘� 褋懈 胁泻邪褉邪褕 胁 谐谢邪胁邪褌邪 懈写械褟褌邪, 褔械 薪褟泻芯泄 泻芯薪褌褉芯谢懈褉邪 褋褗斜懈褌懈褟褌邪, 屑芯卸械褕 写邪 褉邪蟹谐谢械卸写邪褕 胁褋懈褔泻芯 胁 褌邪褟 褋胁械褌谢懈薪邪 懈 薪懈泻褗写械 薪褟屑邪 写邪 薪邪屑械褉懈褕 芯褌薪芯褋懈褌械谢薪邪 褋懈谐褍褉薪芯褋褌.鈥�


鈥炐溞敌窖傂靶恍秆囆笛佇盒秆徰� 芯斜褉邪蟹 芯斜邪褔械 褋懈 懈屑邪褕械 褋胁芯懈褌械 锌褉械写懈屑褋褌胁邪. 袚谢邪胁薪芯褌芯 斜械, 褔械 薪褟屑邪褕械 泻邪泻 写邪 斜褗写械 蟹邪褋械褔械薪 芯褌 泻芯械褌芯 懈 写邪 械 懈蟹胁械褋褌薪芯 薪邪 袩褗褉胁邪褌邪 褎芯薪写邪褑懈褟 褍褋褌褉芯泄褋褌胁芯. 袧懈褌芯 锌褗泻 褔芯胁械泻 芯褌 袙褌芯褉邪褌邪 褎芯薪写邪褑懈褟 屑芯卸械褕械 写邪 锌褉懈褏胁邪薪械 懈 锌芯写褋谢褍褕邪 屑械薪褌邪谢薪懈褟 芯斜褉邪蟹 薪邪 写褉褍谐 褔芯胁械泻 芯褌 肖芯薪写邪褑懈褟褌邪. 袧邪泄-屑薪芯谐芯 写邪 斜褗写械 锌褉芯褋谢械写械薪邪 懈谐褉邪褌邪 薪邪 褍屑邪, 薪芯 薪械 懈 写械谢懈泻邪褌薪邪褌邪 锌褉芯屑褟薪邪 薪邪 懈蟹褉邪卸械薪懈械褌芯 薪邪 谢懈褑械褌芯, 泻芯褟褌芯 褋褗锌褗褌褋褌胁邪褕械 芯褋芯斜械薪芯 褎懈薪懈褌械 屑芯屑械薪褌懈 薪邪 芯斜褖褍胁邪薪械褌芯.鈥�


鈥炐椥� 褍胁邪卸械薪懈械 械 写邪 蟹薪邪械褕 泻芯谐邪 懈褋褌懈薪邪褌邪 屑芯卸械 写邪 褌懈 褋胁褗褉褕懈 褉邪斜芯褌邪, 褌褗泄 泻邪褌芯 薪懈褌芯 械写薪邪 薪械懈褋褌懈薪邪 薪械 屑芯卸械 写邪 斜褗写械 锌褉械写褋褌邪胁械薪邪 褋褗褋 褋褗褖邪褌邪 懈褋泻褉械薪芯褋褌. 袩邪谢胁褗褉 械 泻邪蟹邪谢: 鈥炐毿拘恍盒狙傂� 谢褗卸邪褌邪 械 锌芯-斜谢懈蟹泻芯 写芯 懈褋褌懈薪邪褌邪, 褌芯谢泻芯胁邪 械 锌芯-写芯斜褉邪, 邪 褋邪屑邪褌邪 懈褋褌懈薪邪, 泻芯谐邪褌芯 褌褟 屑芯卸械 写邪 斜褗写械 懈蟹锌芯谢蟹胁邪薪邪, 械 薪邪泄-写芯斜褉邪褌邪 谢褗卸邪.鈥�


鈥炩€� 小 胁褉械屑械褌芯 褋褗锌褗褌褋褌胁邪褖懈褌械 蟹邪谐邪写泻懈 褋懈谐褍褉薪芯 褖械 斜褗写邪褌 褉邪蟹泻褉懈褌懈. 小械谐邪, 泻邪褌芯 懈屑邪屑 芯褌锌褉邪胁薪邪褌邪 褌芯褔泻邪, 屑芯谐邪 写邪 蟹邪锌芯褔薪邪 写邪 褌褗褉褋褟 褋褏芯写薪邪 懈薪褎芯褉屑邪褑懈褟 懈 薪邪 写褉褍谐懈 褋胁械褌芯胁械. 袙邪卸薪芯褌芯 械, 褔械 芯褌泻褉懈褏 泻邪泻褗胁 胁褗锌褉芯褋 写邪 蟹邪写邪胁邪屑, 邪 械写懈薪 写芯斜褗褉 胁褗锌褉芯褋, 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪 褋械, 械 泻谢褞褔褗褌, 写械褌芯 屑芯卸械 写邪 锌芯褉芯写懈 斜械蟹泻褉邪泄薪芯 屑薪芯谐芯 写芯斜褉懈 芯褌谐芯胁芯褉懈.鈥�


鈥炐撔恍靶葱盒狙佈傃傂� 薪邪 褍屑邪 褲 泻褉懈械褕械 芯谐褉芯屑薪邪 懈薪褌械谢懈谐械薪褌薪芯褋褌, 褋褏胁邪褌谢懈胁芯褋褌 懈 褋屑械谢芯褋褌. 袣邪泻胁芯 锌芯胁械褔械 屑芯卸械褕械 写邪 懈褋泻邪 芯褌 泻芯谐芯褌芯 懈 写邪 斜懈谢芯?鈥�


鈥炩€� 袣芯写械谢, 褌懈 褑褟谢 卸懈胁芯褌 褋懈 卸懈胁褟谢 薪邪 孝械褉屑懈薪褍褋. 袧械 锌芯蟹薪邪胁邪褕 袚邪谢邪泻褌懈泻邪褌邪. 袧邪褕邪褌邪 褎谢芯褌邪 懈 斜芯泄薪邪 褌械褏薪懈泻邪 屑芯谐邪褌 写邪 锌芯斜械写褟褌 胁褗芯褉褗卸械薪懈褌械 褋懈谢懈 薪邪 写褉褍谐懈褌械 褋胁械褌芯胁械, 薪芯 薪懈械 胁褋械 芯褖械 薪械 褋屑械 胁 褋褗褋褌芯褟薪懈械 写邪 褍锌褉邪胁谢褟胁邪屑械 械写薪邪 懈蟹褑褟谢芯 胁褉邪卸写械斜薪邪, 胁芯写械薪邪 芯褌 芯屑褉邪蟹邪褌邪 袚邪谢邪泻褌懈泻邪 鈥� 邪 褌褟 褖械 锌褉械写褋褌邪胁谢褟胁邪 褌芯褔薪芯 褌芯胁邪, 邪泻芯 褟 锌褉械胁蟹械屑械屑 褋褗褋 褋懈谢邪.鈥�


鈥炩€� 袝写懈薪 褋胁褟褌 胁 褏懈锌械褉锌褉芯褋褌褉邪薪褋褌胁芯褌芯 械 褋褍械胁械褉懈械, 薪芯 写芯褉懈 褋褍械胁械褉懈褟褌邪 屑芯谐邪褌 写邪 斜褗写邪褌 懈蟹谐褉邪写械薪懈 芯泻芯谢芯 蟹褉褗薪褑邪 芯褌 懈褋褌懈薪邪.鈥�


鈥炩€� 效褍胁邪屑 褋谢芯胁邪褌邪 褌懈 懈 写芯褉懈 褋懈 锌褉械写褋褌邪胁褟屑 懈写械褟褌邪, 泻芯褟褌芯 芯锌懈褋胁邪褕, 薪芯 薪械 屑芯谐邪 写邪 锌芯胁褟褉胁邪屑, 褔械 锌芯写芯斜薪芯 薪械褖芯 懈蟹芯斜褖芯 械 胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯 写邪 褋械 褋谢褍褔懈.
鈥� 袨斜褖芯 胁蟹械褌芯, 邪蟹 褋褗褖芯 薪械 屑芯谐邪 鈥� 泻懈屑薪邪 袛芯屑. 鈥� 袝褌芯 蟹邪褖芯 褌胁褗褉写褟, 褔械 褌芯 锌褉懈谢懈褔邪 薪邪 锌褉懈泻邪蟹泻邪.鈥�


鈥炐愋盒� 褌械 锌褉芯屑械薪懈屑 懈谢懈 锌褉懈褋锌芯褋芯斜懈屑 锌芯 薪褟泻邪泻褗胁 薪邪褔懈薪, 褌懈 薪褟屑邪 写邪 褋懈 锌芯-褑械薪械薪 蟹邪 薪邪褋 芯褌 泻芯泄褌芯 懈 写邪 械 写褉褍谐 褔芯胁械泻 胁 袚邪谢邪泻褌懈泻邪褌邪 懈 薪褟屑邪 写邪 屑芯卸械屑 写邪 褌械 懈蟹锌芯谢蟹胁邪屑械. 袙 褋褗褋褌芯褟薪懈械 褋屑械 写邪 谐芯 薪邪锌褉邪胁懈屑 褋邪屑芯 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褋懈 褌懈 懈 褌褉褟斜胁邪 写邪 芯褋褌邪薪械褕 褌邪泻褗胁, 泻邪泻褗胁褌芯 褋懈. 袗泻芯 胁 褌芯蟹懈 屑芯屑械薪褌 褌懈 胁褗蟹写械泄褋褌胁邪屑械, 薪懈械 褋屑械 蟹邪谐褍斜械薪懈.鈥�
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Author听2 books440 followers
October 22, 2021
I loved this book! You should definitely read the original trilogy before cracking this one open, as it builds directly off of them.

Spoilers ahead!

I really enjoyed discovering the birthplace of The Mule. And while I found pulling the robot books into universe a tad abrupt, I freaked out at the plot twist that Bliss was, in fact, a robot.

This Asimov guy might just have a career in writing 馃槈 I was so impressed with all of the many theoretical scientific concepts Asimov was able to weave into this book so effortlessly. The man truly was a master craftsman.

Overall, this was a fun book that I didn't want to end!
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655 reviews262 followers
July 3, 2017
Although written much later than the original Foundation trilogy, this book in my opinion is on a par with them. Not only is it a great story, well written as ever by Asimov, but after having read the Foundation novels, the Robot novels and the Empire novels (some many times), you realise how cleverly this book starts to bring everything together the way Asimov intended.
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233 reviews654 followers
November 8, 2013

Christmas 2010: I realised that I had got stuck in a rut. I was re-reading old favourites again and again, waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works. Something had to be done.

On the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge, to read every book to have won the award. That鈥檚 35 books, 6 of which I鈥檇 previously read, leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to me.

While working through this reading list I got married, went on my honeymoon, switched career and became a father. As such these stories became imprinted on my memory as the soundtrack to the happiest period in my life (so far).


won the Locus Sci-Fi award in 1983, finishing ahead of (sequel to ), (the sequel to 鈥檚 classic ) and (the first in what, my wife and Mother assure me, is a fine ) to name just three.

I鈥檝e read the twice in my life, and was one of the six winning books I had previously read before I began my Locus Quest.

The first time I read the as an awe-struck pre-teen, I鈥檇 have instantly given the whole series a 5-star review: it was a story that became a foundation stone (excuse the pun) of my love for sci-fi.

Let's get this out of the way: 's is required reading for anyone with more than a passing interest in science fiction. If you've not read it yet, put it on your list!

Returning to in my mid twenties I was expecting to be disappointed. Some issues are unavoidable 鈥� much of the characterisation is shallow and doesn鈥檛 develop far and there series as a whole tends to repeat plot devices with surface variations 鈥� but overall I was pleasantly surprised.

Asimov tends to remind me . That may sound extreme considering was written in the 1890s while was released in the 1980s, but the was conceived back in the 50s. and may represent the best of pre-WW1 and post-WW2 sci-fi, but their formative cultures have more in common with each other than post-2012 audiences.

To me, their stories are now are charming combination of dated ideals and visionary speculation.

This is one of the few novels which can stand alone, so I can heartily recommend it to all - not just fans of the series.

I鈥檓 no longer blown away as I once was, but it鈥檚 still a very enjoyable read!

After this I read: Ilium
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37 reviews15 followers
April 12, 2008
This was, like its predecessors, an enjoyable story. I enjoyed the premise for it, the pacing, and even the characterization is very much improved over the earlier Foundation novels (however little that may be saying).

But I cannot review this book without spoiling it. So read no further if that bothers you.

The real shortcoming is that Asimov abandons (at the very end) the first two foundations to have yet a third organization secretly pull strings from behind a curtain. I get that they're benevolent, that's fine, but Asimov spent the first three books building up the predictive powers of psychohistory as thoroughly grounded in scientific fact and experimentation, and vetted and improved upon by the Second Foundation, only to tear it down in this book and say -- without a bit of explanation -- that it wasn't good enough to account for the growth rate of technology, despite the fact that that's a big part of what it had been designed specifically to do and had done just fine at thus far.

But now we end up with yet a *third* organization working to construct a new second empire. This one, like the second, also operates in secrecy in order to achieve its goals, and so *again* Asimov comes back to ignorance as a key to solving problems created by knowledge, and that just seems like a huge betrayal of the principles he seems to be trying to embrace. He seems to have this split desire to deify science and the pursuit of knowledge in general most of the time, while embracing ignorance at other times. It's just too incongruent, in that regard.
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536 reviews305 followers
May 30, 2020
Asimov surrounds me everytime I read his books. This time he worked more on the characters and their interactions, which made the book even more fluent to enjoy. The writing style is still very simple, so even when the plot gets dense it doesn't bother and everything Asimov has to say about the Universe, the human race, our minds as a group or a single person is so fascinated to me. A very special book about balance, our decisions and how important they are. Second favorite behind Foundation. I really enjoyed this continuation.


En una epoca extra帽a e imprevisible, nos aferrramos con miedo al pasado.

Lo m谩s page-turner de Asimov que he le铆do hasta ahora. La trilog铆a de la Fundaci贸n original es m谩s seria, por decirlo de un modo, con Los Limites de la Fundaci贸n se divierte m谩s sin dejar su estilo y sin arriesgar la trama. Hay personajes m谩s activos, di谩logos m谩s fluidos y un misterio m谩s interesante. Digamos que solo deja de meterse tanto con los problemas sociales y nos adentramos m谩s a una aventura espacial mientras el Plan de Hari Seldon est谩 a mitad de camino.

Como siempre, este Plan se ve amenazado por alguna disputa y/o pensamiento desviado y ahora para prevenir la cat谩strofe se debe enderezar el camino. Y como siempre, la resoluci贸n final es contundente, imaginativa e ingeniosa al mismo tiempo, lo que hace del libro una experiencia incre铆ble de forma redonda.

Lo unico que debe hacer es mirarse atentamente a si mismo y entendera a todos los demas.

Otro gran detalle son las dos grandes referencias a otros libros del autor, te hablan sobre el pasado prehist贸rico del Primer Imperio Gal谩ctico y te pica la curiosidad por leer esos otros vol煤menes de los cuales ya tengo uno yei!

En general, esta cuarta entrega de la serie trata m谩s acerca de lo que escapa a ambas Fundaciones, su raz贸n de ser y su papel en la historia. Ha sido muy interesante y te deja con muchas ganas de leer Fundaci贸n y Tierra...es una pena que no lo encontrara en la Feria del Libro. Espero lo traigan pronto. Recomendado para quienes disfrutaron la trilog铆a principal.

Si hubieramos esperado hasta que la seguridad fuese doble y triple y cuadruple e infinitamente grande, habriamos esperado siempre.
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447 reviews131 followers
October 3, 2017
賲噩賲賵毓賴贁 亘賳蹖丕丿 賳丕賲 賲噩賲賵毓賴鈥屫й� 鄯 噩賱丿蹖 丕夭 丌蹖夭丕讴 丌爻蹖賲賵賮 丕爻鬲 讴賴 賲卮賴賵乇鬲乇蹖賳 賲噩賲賵毓賴贁 毓賱賲蹖-鬲禺蹖賱蹖 禺賵丕賳丿賴 卮丿賴鈥屫ж池�. 丿丕爻鬲丕賳 丕蹖賳 賲噩賲賵毓賴 亘賴 鬲乇鬲蹖亘 夭賲丕賳 丕賳鬲卮丕乇 倬蹖卮 賳賲蹖鈥屫辟堌� 亘賱讴賴 丌爻蹖賲賵賮 丕亘鬲丿丕 噩賱丿賴丕蹖 爻賵賲 (亘賳蹖丕丿)貙 趩賴丕乇賲(亘賳蹖丕丿 賵 丕賲倬乇丕胤賵乇蹖) 賵 倬賳噩賲 (亘賳蹖丕丿 丿賵賲) 乇丕 賳賵卮鬲 賵 爻倬爻 亘丕 賵賯賮賴鈥屫й� 胤賵賱丕賳蹖 賲丿鬲 賵 亘乇 丕孬乇 丕氐乇丕乇 禺賵丕賳賳丿诏丕賳 噩賱丿賴丕蹖 卮卮賲 (賱亘賴 亘賳蹖丕丿) 賵 賴賮鬲賲 (亘賳蹖丕丿 賵 夭賲蹖賳) 乇丕 亘賴 丌賳 丕賮夭賵丿. 倬爻 丕夭 丌賳 亘丕 賵賯賮賴鈥屫й� 賳爻亘鬲丕賸 胤賵賱丕賳蹖 噩賱丿 丕賵賱 賲噩賲賵毓賴 (爻乇丌睾丕夭 亘賳蹖丕丿) 賵 丿乇 賳賴丕蹖鬲 賳蹖夭 丕賳丿讴蹖 倬蹖卮 丕夭 賲乇诏卮 噩賱丿 丿賵賲 (倬蹖卮亘乇丿 亘賳蹖丕丿) 乇丕 賳賵卮鬲賴鈥屫ж池�.
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5,895 reviews153 followers
May 9, 2023
This is a book that needs to be recognized in the context of its time; Asimov had written some of the most iconic stories in the field in the 1940s and '50s, and his lofty reputation had been made by the robot stories and the Foundation trilogy. When it became known that he was going to revisit and reboot these worlds and integrate them into a single universe, a lot of fans were ready to hate it. It had been thirty-some years (which is, like, at least fifteen fannish generations), and there was a lot of resistance to the idea. Asimov's fourth book of the trilogy became a standard joke, and a lot of people thought he was just writing it for the money. The fact that the book went on to win the Hugo and Locus Awards for best novel of the year (both voted for by fans, beating novels by two other old-time favorite grandmasters, Clarke and Heinlein) is something of a testament to his success. The book starts a little slowly but has an intricate plot that falls into place quite nicely and it's an interesting and engaging read. The style seems a little more comfortable than the originals, and the characters are enjoyable and realistic. The theme seems to me to counter the philosophy of the original a bit, perhaps a nod to changed social conventions, but looking back after yet more decades I believe it may be the best of all the Foundation books, and one of Asimov's best novels overall.
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March 16, 2019
Sort of brick-like sequel to the earlier Foundation books. The sheer bulk of the book testifies to the difference in publishing between when Azimov wrote his original stories - mostly first printed in magazines and later released as books and as a result far shorter. But this was not all that had changed, the story testifies to a change in Azimov's thinking and vision. The original stories were the product of post WWII USA there is an uncomplicated optimism about technology and in the values of the USA, the far future as a result is the 1950s writ large with a generous splash of Gibbons' , a degree of pessimism as the necessary sauce to sharpen the faith in those fundamental values.

This book takes the Foundation idea in a slightly different direction by introducing a factor and the possibility of a factor outside of the original psychohistorical calculations made by Seldon. Which rather renders the original stories superfluous. The drive of late Azimov to completeness and neatness, tying all of his stories together into one superbundle is accomplished at the cost of the integrity and cleverness of those original stories from the 40s and 50s. One can read and enjoy this book and the one that comes after it and as a pair they serve to tie the Foundation series back to the Bailey/robot books.

More seriously Azimov's solutions in the 1980s are revealed to be thoroughly collectivist, he had moved a long way from his starting point.
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608 reviews143 followers
July 29, 2021
袛芯褋褌芯 蟹邪锌谢械褌械薪邪 褔邪褋褌, 泻褗写械褌芯 芯褋薪芯胁薪懈褌械 写械泄褋褌胁邪褖懈 谢懈褑邪 芯褌薪芯胁芯 褋邪 锌褗褉胁邪褌邪 懈 胁褌芯褉邪褌邪 肖芯薪写邪褑懈懈. 孝褍泻 芯斜邪褔械 褋械 锌芯褟胁褟胁邪 械写薪邪 薪芯胁邪 锌褉芯屑械薪谢懈胁邪 胁 褍褉邪胁薪械薪懈械褌芯, 褌褉械褌芯 薪械懈蟹胁械褋褌薪芯, 泻芯械褌芯 锌褉械蟹 褑褟谢芯褌芯 胁褉械屑械 械 写懈褉懈卸懈褉邪谢芯 褋褗斜懈褌懈褟褌邪. 袚械褟. 些械 褋锌褉邪 写芯 褌褍泻, 蟹邪 写邪 薪械 懈蟹写邪屑 胁邪卸薪懈 械谢械屑械薪褌懈 芯褌 懈褋褌芯褉懈褟褌邪.
袠 褌邪蟹懈 褔邪褋褌 械 薪械 锌芯- 屑邪谢泻芯 械锌懈褔薪邪 芯褌 芯褋褌邪薪邪谢懈褌械.
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Author听8 books623 followers
October 5, 2023
Espionage and social arrangements.

This is the fourth book in the Foundation series and my third read of the series and I just got to say that I鈥檓 eating this series up. It is sooo good and unique. Yes it still suffers from sexism and patriarchy like the prior books. Looking past the flaws, I think this is probably my favorite science fiction series I鈥檝e ever read.

MAJOR SPOILERS:

This fourth book is after the ordeal with the Mule and the First Foundation believing they have finally vanquished the Second Foundation in the prior book. This book is about the linchpin character Trevize who believes the Second Foundation is still in operation because the Seldon Plan is running a bit too smoothly and reeks of orchestration. And then we have a second POV by Gendibal who is actually from the cabal of the Second Foundation and he claims the Seldon Plan is working too smoothly when they look at the Prime Radiant which must be evidence that there is another agent at work, pulling the strings. So you have these two parallel stories going on with amazing espionage and subterfuge and very cool deductions happening between the characters. One of the main elements in this book is the power struggle and politicking between the established physical government representative of the First Foundation and the shadow government which is the Second Foundation. It鈥檚 all really compelling to read.

And then on top of that you have the search for Gaia which as we come to find out is a world of in which all organism live in mental harmony which was created by the 鈥淓ternals鈥� who are robots from thousands of years ago who apparently followed the First Law of Robotics so much that they created an entire dimension where humans are the only intelligent life form in order to protect them forever. So you have that little plot point going on which is worked really deftly into the story and everything interests the character Trevize. Trevize has some sort of unspoken and special ability to have a mind unaltered from mentalic influence. Gaia has selected him to make a decision for humanity: how should civilization proceed? He has three options: 1. Go with the autocratic and military rule of the First Foundation in order to establish a second galactic empire 2. Go with the shadow government that will be led by the Second Foundation or 3. Go with Gaia who will spread their consciousness throughout the galaxy to integrate all together in harmony. Basically the three options are fascism, technocracy or communism. Trevize goes with the third option, not because he believes it is the best, but it will take thousands of years to accomplish thus buying time for further options.

I鈥檓 amazed that Asimov took his story here. His willingness to abandon the Seldon Plan and explore these concepts and the politics involved is truly something special. I think Asmiov had a really great mind to work these concepts into his science fiction.

At any rate. I LOVE this series and loved this book.
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391 reviews63 followers
February 22, 2019
For the past four years, I've been reading one Foundation book a year. I'm not entirely sure why that is; you would imagine I'd forget a lot of what I read in the year between books. However, every time I come back to this series, it feels like I read the previous book only yesterday.

At first I was skeptical of this one. I read that he wrote this one decades after the third installment and was worried this was written just as a bit of fan service. If that's true, this is the highest quality fan service I've ever read.

Out of the four I've read so far, this is the one that follows more of the standard novel format the most. One set of characters throughout the novel and doesn't time skip a generation or two at any point. I really enjoyed the change of pace, because what a brilliant cast he put into this novel!

The plot twists were abundant and kept me guessing right up until the end. In fact, I'm still guessing after having read it. I wish I'd have read more of his novels before reading this, because I know he ties up several series with this book. Even without having read the other series, it felt fluid and well done.

Isaac Asimov is without a doubt, my favorite Hard Science Fiction author. Every book I read by him cements that further. A few years ago, I'd have said Frank Herbert because of the extent to which Dune blew my mind. That series dwindled immediately after the first installment. All of the Foundation books have been as good, if not better than the first. I might have to read the next Foundation book this year even!
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303 reviews
November 19, 2022
Scritto molto dopo l'originaria trilogia, 猫 un libro interessante. La storia 猫 molto pi霉 viva e complessa e si svolge in uno spazio temporale pi霉 ristretto. C'猫 molta pi霉 azione e i personaggi sono pi霉 articolati, anche se spesso appaiono essere comprimari nell'immenso scacchiere della storia. Con l'esperienza, lo stile di Asimov ha guadagnato freschezza e capacit脿 di coinvolgere il lettore, anche se la fine delude un p貌 e non 猫 conclusiva. In compenso, bello il ritorno all'origine con il richiamo ai robot.
October 9, 2023
賲蹖鈥屫堎嗃屫� 鬲氐賵乇 讴賳蹖丿 蹖賴 乇賵夭 丕賳爻丕賳鈥屬囏� 亘賴 賯丿乇蹖 鬲賵蹖 讴賴讴卮丕賳 倬乇丕讴賳丿賴 亘卮賳 讴賴 夭賲蹖賳 賮乇丕賲賵卮 亘卮賴責 賲睾夭賲 丿賵丿 賲蹖鈥屭┵嗁� 亘賴卮 賮讴乇 賲蹖鈥屭┵嗁�.
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2,977 reviews
June 26, 2022
Way too much time was spend on explaining the theory behind ... Well, everything in the book. This was a good example of way so many people get turned off by sci-fi and think that you can't have entertaining narratives that are scientifically accurate. Stereotyped, single dimensional characters and don't even get me started on the portrayal of women - in one scene a university professor's wife leaves the dining room because she's offended by the topic of conversation. She said nothing during the entire sequence, only got up and left. It鈥檚 left to her husband to explain her inexplicable behavior, but don鈥檛 be fooled, what the author means here is her feminine behavior. Then the men leave the room to continue their conversation so she will be able to come back and clean up the remains of the meal. Ok, maybe if it had been written in the 1950s, but this was originally published in the mid 1980s (clearly Asimov just ignored the whole women's liberation thing from the 50s, 60s & 70s). In all fairness, there are other female characters that are different. But none of them are really even as well developed as the two-dimensional male characters. Oh well, I still have one more of these Foundation books to read. So, I'll keep plugging away at it.
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Author听9 books4,717 followers
November 18, 2021
All in all, Foundation's Edge, the winner of the '83 Hugo, was a perfect example of an author returning to a beloved series at the time of his highest popularity. Look, folks, it's the return of a FOUNDATION story!

And while that was great and all, I have to step back and judge this more on its own merits.

It's an adventure that feels a lot like Second Foundation, only more drawn-out intrigue hinging on another search-for-the-Second-Foundation-under-the-guise-of-looking-for-Earth.

After all, the Earth, if it was indeed the cradle of humanity and human history and the birth of the mechanism OF psychohistory, it's a great place to start, right? Right.

And to be fair, the novel is entertaining enough, but it didn't really reach the level of the original trilogy. Good, but not absolutely fantastic. Why? Mainly because I was sus about the whole Gaia sequence. I mean, it follows and is followed by the Second Foundation Trilogy which runs with some of these ideas, especially in Foundation's Triumph, as a prequel, but overall I'm stuck looking at it like it might be one of those Deus Ex Machina events. Sure, a lot of time is spent setting it up, but it still feels meh. I love the basic idea, but I keep thinking it could have been so much greater, lush, and fascinating.

I'm imposing my own desires upon the work. I know this. But I still wish for things that didn't happen. Alas.

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1,147 reviews171 followers
December 14, 2024
16/5 - Yay! Finally an Asimov that I looked forward to picking up every night (reading before bed). I thought this was outstanding compared to Foundation and Foundation and Empire. Asimov's dialogue was still awkward, but in the 29 years between the publication of Second Foundation and this book Asimov certainly improved his skills in writing believable dialogue for his characters. Sometimes it felt like Trevize, or his travelling partner Janov Pelorat, were repeating their explanation of the situation needlessly (and annoyingly), but I never found myself bored by the plot or the prose. The relationship between Trevize and Pelorat was what made the book for me. The hunt for the Second Foundation would not have been so enjoyable (for them trapped together on a not humongous spaceship for weeks, or me) if these characters hadn't interacted so well with each other. When I finished this I was actually looking forward to starting Foundation and Earth immediately.
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153 reviews39 followers
December 6, 2020
螚 "魏位委渭伪魏伪" 苇蠂蔚喂 渭喂魏蟻蠉谓蔚喂 蟽蔚 蠈位慰蠀蟼 蟿慰蠀蟼 蟿慰渭蔚委蟼 蟽蔚 蟽蠉纬魏蟻喂蟽畏 渭蔚 蠈,蟿喂 蔚委蠂伪渭蔚 蟽蠀谓畏胃委蟽蔚喂 蟽蟿畏 蟿蟻喂位慰纬委伪 蟿慰蠀 螛蔚渭蔚位委慰蠀. 危蔚 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟿慰 尾喂尾位委慰, 蟽蠀谓伪谓蟿维渭蔚 渭喂魏蟻蠈蟿蔚蟻慰 伪蟻喂胃渭蠈 伪蟿蠈渭蠅谓, 蟿伪尉喂未蔚蠉慰蠀渭蔚 蟽蔚 位喂纬蠈蟿蔚蟻慰蠀蟼 蟺位伪谓萎蟿蔚蟼 魏伪喂 畏 蔚尉苇位喂尉畏 蟿畏蟼 喂蟽蟿慰蟻委伪蟼 蔚蟽蟿喂维味蔚喂 蟽蔚 苇谓伪 蟺慰位蠉 蟽蠀纬魏蔚魏蟻喂渭苇谓慰 纬蔚纬慰谓蠈蟼, 蟿畏谓 伪谓伪魏维位蠀蠄畏 蟿慰蠀 蟺位伪谓萎蟿畏 螕伪委伪! 螤伪蟻' 蠈位伪 伪蠀蟿维, 蟿慰 尾喂尾位委慰 未喂伪蟿畏蟻蔚委 蟿慰谓 蠅蟻伪委慰 位蠈纬慰 蟿慰蠀 Asimov, 蟿喂蟼 蔚谓未喂伪蠁苇蟻慰蠀蟽蔚蟼 蟺蟻慰蟽蠅蟺喂魏蠈蟿畏蟿蔚蟼 魏伪喂 渭委伪 喂蟽蟿慰蟻委伪 纬蔚渭维蟿畏 伪谓伪蟿蟻慰蟺苇蟼, 蟺慰蠀 魏慰蟻蠀蠁蠋谓蔚蟿伪喂 渭苇蠂蟻喂 蟿畏 蟿蔚位蔚蠀蟿伪委伪 蟺蟻蠈蟿伪蟽畏!
螒蟺位蠋蟼, 未喂伪蠁苇蟻蔚喂 蟽蟿慰 蠉蠁慰蟼 蟿蠅谓 蟺蟻慰畏纬慰蠉渭蔚谓蠅谓 魏伪喂 伪蠀蟿蠈 蔚委谓伪喂 蟺慰蠀 蟿慰 魏伪蟿伪蟿维蟽蟽蔚喂 蟺喂慰 蠂伪渭畏位维 蟽蔚 蟽蠂苇蟽畏 渭蔚 蔚魏蔚委谓伪.

危蠀谓蔚蠂委味慰蠀渭蔚 蠈渭蠅蟼 未蠀谓伪渭喂魏维 渭蔚 蟿慰 5慰!
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Author听4 books38 followers
February 11, 2022
螤伪喂未喂维, 蟿喂 谓伪 蟺慰蠉渭蔚 纬喂伪 伪蠀蟿蠈谓 蟿慰谓 维谓胃蟻蠅蟺慰;
螚 伪位萎胃蔚喂伪 蔚委谓伪喂 蠈蟿喂 慰 委未喂慰蟼 蔚委蠂蔚 未畏位蠋蟽蔚喂 蟺蠅蟼 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟿慰 尾喂尾位委慰 (蠈蟺蠅蟼 魏伪喂 蟿伪 5 魏伪喂 6 蟿畏蟼 螕.螒.) 蟿伪 苇纬蟻伪蠄蔚 魏伪蟿蠈蟺喂谓 蟺喂苇蟽蔚蠅蟼 蟿蠅谓 蔚魏未慰蟿蠋谓, 蟿蠅谓 蠁伪谓 魏伪喂 蟿畏蟼 位蔚蠀魏萎蟼 蔚蟺喂蟿伪纬萎蟼 蟺慰蠀 蟿慰蠀 苇未蠅蟽蔚 慰 蔚魏未慰蟿喂魏蠈蟼 慰委魏慰蟼 蟺蟻慰魏蔚喂渭苇谓慰蠀 谓伪 蟽蠀谓蔚蠂委蟽蔚喂 蟿畏谓 喂蟽蟿慰蟻委伪. 螝伪喂 蟿蟻喂维谓蟿伪 蠂蟻蠈谓喂伪 伪蟻纬蠈蟿蔚蟻伪 蟿慰 苇魏伪谓蔚. 螝伪喂 蟽维蟻蠅蟽蔚 蟿伪 尾蟻伪尾蔚委伪.
螌蠂喂, 未蔚谓 蠀蟺维蟻蠂蔚喂 慰 委未喂慰蟼 蔚谓胃慰蠀蟽喂伪蟽渭蠈蟼 渭蔚 蟿慰 蟺蟻蠋蟿慰 胃蔚渭苇位喂慰. 螝伪喂 未蔚谓 胃伪 渭蟺慰蟻慰蠉蟽蔚 谓伪 蠀蟺维蟻蠂蔚喂 纬喂伪蟿委 蟿慰 蟺蟻蠋蟿慰 胃蔚渭苇位喂慰 纬蟻维蠁蟿畏魏蔚, 蟿慰 未喂伪尾维蟽伪渭蔚 魏伪喂 蟿慰 位伪蟿蟻苇蠄伪渭蔚. 螘未蠋 蟽蠀谓蔚蠂委味蔚蟿伪喂 畏 喂蟽蟿慰蟻委伪.
500 蠂蟻蠈谓喂伪 渭蔚蟿维 蟿伪 纬蔚纬慰谓蠈蟿伪 蟿慰蠀 蟺蟻蠋蟿慰蠀 螛蔚渭蔚位委慰蠀 魏伪喂 位委纬慰 渭蔚蟿维 蟿慰 螠慰蠀位维蟻喂, 蠀蟺维蟻蠂蔚喂 渭委伪 谓苇伪 伪蟺蔚喂位萎. 螝伪喂 蟺蠅蟼 蟿慰 苇魏伪谓蔚 伪蠀蟿蠈蟼 慰 渭蟺伪纬维蟽伪蟼 慰 螜蟽伪维魏 魏伪喂 渭蟺位苇魏蔚喂 蟿喂蟼 喂蟽蟿慰蟻委蔚蟼 蟽伪蟼 蠄畏蠁喂未蠅蟿蠈 魏伪喂 蔚魏蔚委 蟽蟿慰 蟿苇位慰蟼, 渭蔚 苇谓伪谓 渭伪纬喂魏蠈 蟿蟻蠈蟺慰, 蟿蟽慰蠀蟺 蟽蠀谓未苇慰谓蟿伪喂! 螘魏蟺位畏魏蟿喂魏蠈蟼.
韦蠋蟻伪 胃伪 蟽蟿蟻伪蠁蠋 蟽蟿慰 巍慰渭蟺蠈蟿 魏伪喂 螒蠀蟿魏慰蟻伪蟿慰蟻委伪 (蟺慰蠀 未喂伪尾维味蠅 蠈蟿喂 蔚谓未蔚委魏谓蠀蟿伪喂 谓伪 未喂伪尾伪蟽蟿蔚委 蟺蟻喂谓 蟿畏谓 螕伪位伪尉喂伪魏萎 螒蠀蟿慰魏蟻伪蟿慰蟻委伪 5).
螚 苇魏未慰蟽畏 蟿慰蠀 螝维魏蟿慰蠀 (慰委魏慰蠀 蟺慰蠀 伪纬伪蟺蠋 纬喂伪蟿委 苇蠁蔚蟻蔚 蟿慰谓 螒蟽委渭蠅蠁 蟽蟿畏谓 螘位位维未伪) 伪蟺位维 纬喂伪 纬苇位喂伪. 螡慰渭委味蠅 蠈蟿喂 蟿慰 尾喂尾位委慰 维尉喂味蔚 蟺蔚蟻喂蟽蟽蠈蟿蔚蟻慰 蟽蔚尾伪蟽渭蠈 萎 苇蟽蟿蠅 伪蟺位维 蔚蟺喂渭苇位蔚喂伪.
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November 30, 2012
I didn't plan to read the "later" Foundation books because most attempts to reinvigorate an early, highly successful series (and except for "Lord of the Rings," no original series of the '50s and '60s was as successful as the Foundation trilogy) usually leave you somewhat embarrassed for the author.

Not here. Rather than trying to reanimate the sword-and-hoopla of much of 1950s SF, Asimov writes us a 450-page logical argument. You might think that would be enough to give Socrates a headache, but, as the master storyteller he always was, Asimov keeps you hanging on every unexpected but perfectly reasoned turn of plot.

By "logical argument" I mean a warring of intensely bright minds trying to one-up each other's motivations and uncover the structure behind a constantly reorganizing viewpoint of political and social organization.

Roughly 200 years after the original stories, the Foundation has taken peaceful control of nearly half the galaxy's million colonized worlds. The Foundation believes that the secretive Second Foundation has been exterminated, but we (of course) know that it still lurks on the former Empire home world of Trantor, controlling the unfolding fate of the galaxy through subtle but benevolent mind-tuning.

There's no need to list more facts, because this is not a fact-based novel. It's a constantly unfolding and interfolding of ideas through the truly deft use of mind games. And it works only because Asimov created superb characters who speak to each other not in didactic paragraphs but in a genuine attempt to explain the situation to each other. We, the readers, are but eavesdroppers.

One thing from the original series remains the same, and it's always seemed both silly and endearing to me. Despite the fact that the galaxy is home to a quintillion human beings (or, one royal shitload squared), their fate always hangs on tiny a handful of isolated minds, who meet two or three at a time out behind some planet where any two spaceships can always conveniently find each other, like neighborhood rudeboys dreaming up a heist in the parking lot of the Pep Boys' warehouse.
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December 27, 2016
4.5 Stars
Definitely a better read than the , as some friends had suggested. :)

Having written this much later in life (early 1980s, 32 years after the publication of the previous Foundation book ), Asimov's writing style seems to have had improved than from the 1950s. The book won the Hugo Award for best novel and the Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel in 1983. Although the book is self-contained, the story in this book is a continuation to the original trilogy, and it is recommended to read this only after reading the first three books.

Mysteries (if any) are very well-maintained, while reading the book until its last page is interesting. Some of the themes mentioned in the book were not new to me, and as a result have not really happened to put me in a state of awe, as a result of which my inability in giving it a perfect five-star rating. However, I was glad to see those embedded themes, and the series' integration with Asimov's other series of his books.

Some of my questions which I had conceived while reading the original trilogy were particularly attended to by the author, for which I am glad, such as the question of Earth in the Galactic Empire's History, and the possibility of other life-forms. These concepts have now been well-integrated.

Now on to the next in the series: :)
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