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message 1: by David (new)

David (bodam) | 43 comments Mod
I have been away for a little while so I was seeing what this group was up to. It looks like the BotM has not been updated in awhile. If I go to the Yahoo group I see the current book listed. I also see the announcement on Google+.

So Is this group still active here? Or should I focus on Yahoo?


message 2: by Richard (new)

Richard (mrredwood) | 123 comments My fault � I've been drifting away from science fiction for a few months, and I was the one transferring Username's Yahoo stuff into this group. If anyone with sufficient time and afflicted with CDO wants to take over the duties, I'm sure they'd be welcome.


message 3: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) I had left long time ago. I tend to leave non active groups. Why don't you choose from the most active users (send a pm) or look for more mods in the mod group.


message 4: by Username, SF Techgod (new)

Username (usernameiv) | 56 comments Mod
Hi! I´m trying to get the group rebooted/jumpstarted/revamped...
so, there´s a poll for choosing a book for October going on at Yahoo! Here´s the link:


message 5: by Radiantflux (new)

Radiantflux So I guess I'm curious is this group still active?


message 6: by Username, SF Techgod (new)

Username (usernameiv) | 56 comments Mod
Not here... we still have some activity at Yahoo and Facebook:




message 7: by Radiantflux (new)

Radiantflux Thanks. That's a shame I'm not on Facebook, and not really that into Yahoo discussion groups.

Out of curiosity: Do you know if there are any good scifi groups on GoodReads?


message 8: by Victory (new)

Victory Crayne (victory_crayne) | 28 comments The word "good" is very subjective. What is good to one reader is awful to another. This group on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is devoted to "hard science SF."

Radiantflux, why don't you list a few of the SF books you do like so we can get an idea of what you mean by "good" SF?

I write that kind of SF and will publish three books (probably) in 2015.

- Victory Crayne, President, SFNovelist.com


message 9: by Radiantflux (last edited Jun 23, 2014 12:02PM) (new)

Radiantflux Hi Victory:

I was asking for a subjective opinion, but I do like hard scifi (hence my membership of the group).

I have over hundred scifi books in my scifi shelf on my Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ account that should give a good idea of the books I like.

/review/list...


message 10: by Victory (new)

Victory Crayne (victory_crayne) | 28 comments Hi Radiantflux,

If you want an answer to your question, then you have to make it easier for anybody who reads these posts to be able to answer you.

If you want other people to go to your Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ account, scan the books, and come up with recommendations, I suspect that won't happen. Most people won't take the time or energy to do all that.

So I recommend you list five (5) authors whose books you like to read and see if that will get answer. Make it easy for people to respond and they might. Make it hard for them to respond and I doubt if they will.

- Victory


message 11: by Radiantflux (last edited Jun 23, 2014 12:26PM) (new)

Radiantflux Victory:

Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated.

I was just curious if people had some recommendations for active scifi groups here on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. From your response it seems just easier for me to go out and look myself.

thanks again for taking the time to write such detailed responses. Sorry to waste your valuable time in this way.


message 12: by Victory (new)

Victory Crayne (victory_crayne) | 28 comments Radiantflux:

This group appears to be a bit inactive right now.

One way to increase the activity is to post good questions and replies. I'm trying to do just that.


message 13: by Al "Tank" (new)

Al "Tank" (alkalar) | 47 comments Well, I'll take the plunge. My favorite "hard" SF authors are:

1. Robert Heinlein (he's always been #1)
2. Harry Harrison (his Stainless Steel Rat series)
3. Bruce Davis (especially his Profit Log series)
4. John Bowers (especially his Fighter Queen saga)
5. Anne McCaffrey (there may be some question about how "hard" some of her stuff is)
6. E. E. "Doc" Smith. His Lensman series is old-style, but then again, I'm old too.


message 14: by Victory (new)

Victory Crayne (victory_crayne) | 28 comments I'll had my two cents worth, Al. I like:

1. Anne McCaffrey (only her "ship that sang" series. I didn't like the dragons.)
2. Robert Heinlein (most of his stuff, but can't anymore since he died in 1988)
3. Isaac Asimov (mostly the robot and Foundation series)
4. Greg Bear.
5. Greg Benford (but not all of his writing)
6. Arthur C. Clarke (almost everything but he also is no longer with us)
7. Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle (especially the Mote series)
8. Frederick Pohl
9. Andre Norton (most of her writing, but she died in 2005)
10. David Weber (especially his Honor Harrington series)

I guess I'm dating myself with this list of older authors. I'm reading a lot of mysteries and espionage stories lately. It should not surprise anyone that I'm writing novels of a spy on another planet.

Victory Crayne, President, SFNovelist.com


message 15: by Al "Tank" (new)

Al "Tank" (alkalar) | 47 comments Victory wrote: "I'll had my two cents worth, Al. I like:

1. Anne McCaffrey (only her "ship that sang" series. I didn't like the dragons.)
2. Robert Heinlein (most of his stuff, but can't anymore since he died in ..."


Hmmm. I recognize most of those folks, but 3 escape me. I guess I wasn't buying them back in the dark ages, where most of my library comes from. No way can I keep up with all the new authors. It's nice to have LOTS of choices.

I liked most of what McCaffrey wrote, with a very few exceptions. The Foundation series got boring for me after a while. Norton was a fine writer, but I only have a small number of her prolific output. I think I've got every novel Heinlein wrote, including his wife's collection, "Grumblings from the Grave" and both versions of "Stranger in a Strange Land", and his books are my favorite things to re-read.

I'm currently reading an ARC of John Bowers' latest book; pretty good so far.


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