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袨褌褋褗褋褌胁邪褖懈 斜邪褖懈, 懈蟹谐褍斜械薪懈 褋懈薪芯胁械
袦薪芯谐芯 褋褗胁褉械屑械薪薪懈 屑褗卸械 薪械 褋械 胁锌懈褋胁邪褌 胁 泻芯薪胁械薪褑懈芯薪邪谢薪邪褌邪 锌褉械写褋褌邪胁邪 蟹邪 屑褗卸械褋褌胁械薪芯褋褌. 袩褋懈褏芯褌械褉邪锌械胁褌褗褌 袚懈 袣芯褉薪芯 芯褌写邪胁邪 褌芯胁邪 薪邪 屑褗谢褔邪薪懈械褌芯 懈谢懈 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁懈械褌芯 薪邪 斜邪褖懈褌械 芯褌 卸懈胁芯褌邪 薪邪 褋懈薪芯胁械褌械 懈屑, 泻芯械褌芯 械 芯泻邪蟹邪谢芯 芯谐褉芯屑薪芯 胁谢懈褟薪懈械 胁褗褉褏褍 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪褌邪 薪邪 写械褑邪褌邪. 袟邪 屑芯屑褔械褌邪褌邪 械 胁邪卸薪芯 写邪 懈蟹谐褉邪写褟褌 屑褗卸泻懈 屑芯写械谢懈 薪邪 锌芯胁械写械薪懈械, 邪 蟹邪 褌芯胁邪 械 薪褍卸薪芯 写邪 懈屑邪褌 锌褉械写 褋械斜械 褋懈 锌褉懈屑械褉 蟹邪 锌芯写褉邪卸邪薪懈械. 袥懈锌褋邪褌邪 薪邪 芯薪械蟹懈 褉懈褌褍邪谢懈, 褋 泻芯懈褌芯 褋械 芯褌斜械谢褟胁邪 锌褉械胁褉褗褖邪薪械褌芯 薪邪 屑芯屑褔械褌芯 胁 屑褗卸, 懈屑邪 褌械卸泻懈 锌芯褋谢械写褋褌胁懈褟 蟹邪 褎芯褉屑懈褉邪薪械 薪邪 薪械谐芯胁邪褌邪 屑褗卸械褋褌胁械薪芯褋褌.
挟薪谐懈邪薪褋泻懈褟褌 锌芯写褏芯写 薪邪 邪胁褌芯褉邪 褋锌芯屑邪谐邪 蟹邪 锌芯-写芯斜褉芯褌芯 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪薪械 薪邪 锌褉芯斜谢械屑懈褌械 薪邪 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪. 袗胁褌芯褉褗褌 锌芯褋芯褔胁邪 褋褉械写褋褌胁邪褌邪 蟹邪 懈蟹褑械谢褟胁邪薪械 薪邪 写褗谢斜芯泻懈褌械 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褔械褋泻懈 褌褉邪胁屑懈, 薪邪薪械褋械薪懈 薪邪 泻褉械褏泻邪褌邪 写械褌褋泻邪 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪 芯褌 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁懈械褌芯 薪邪 斜邪褖邪褌邪 胁 写械褌褋褌胁芯褌芯. 袨褋褗蟹薪邪褌芯褌芯 芯褌薪芯褕械薪懈械 泻褗屑 锌褉芯斜谢械屑邪 芯斜邪褔械 斜懈 屑芯谐谢芯 写邪 褋锌芯屑芯谐薪械 蟹邪 褉邪蟹褉械褕邪胁邪薪械 薪邪 泻褉懈蟹邪褌邪 薪邪 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 懈薪写械薪褌懈褔薪芯褋褌. 袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 械 锌芯谢械蟹薪芯 褔械褌懈胁芯 蟹邪 胁褋械泻懈 屑褗卸, 泻芯泄褌芯 懈褋泻邪 写邪 薪邪褍褔懈 锌芯胁械褔械 蟹邪 褋械斜械 褋懈, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 蟹邪 胁褋懈褔泻懈, 懈薪褌械褉械褋褍胁邪褖懈 褋械 芯褌 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褟.
挟薪谐懈邪薪褋泻懈褟褌 锌芯写褏芯写 薪邪 邪胁褌芯褉邪 褋锌芯屑邪谐邪 蟹邪 锌芯-写芯斜褉芯褌芯 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪薪械 薪邪 锌褉芯斜谢械屑懈褌械 薪邪 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪. 袗胁褌芯褉褗褌 锌芯褋芯褔胁邪 褋褉械写褋褌胁邪褌邪 蟹邪 懈蟹褑械谢褟胁邪薪械 薪邪 写褗谢斜芯泻懈褌械 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褔械褋泻懈 褌褉邪胁屑懈, 薪邪薪械褋械薪懈 薪邪 泻褉械褏泻邪褌邪 写械褌褋泻邪 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪 芯褌 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁懈械褌芯 薪邪 斜邪褖邪褌邪 胁 写械褌褋褌胁芯褌芯. 袨褋褗蟹薪邪褌芯褌芯 芯褌薪芯褕械薪懈械 泻褗屑 锌褉芯斜谢械屑邪 芯斜邪褔械 斜懈 屑芯谐谢芯 写邪 褋锌芯屑芯谐薪械 蟹邪 褉邪蟹褉械褕邪胁邪薪械 薪邪 泻褉懈蟹邪褌邪 薪邪 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 懈薪写械薪褌懈褔薪芯褋褌. 袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 械 锌芯谢械蟹薪芯 褔械褌懈胁芯 蟹邪 胁褋械泻懈 屑褗卸, 泻芯泄褌芯 懈褋泻邪 写邪 薪邪褍褔懈 锌芯胁械褔械 蟹邪 褋械斜械 褋懈, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 蟹邪 胁褋懈褔泻懈, 懈薪褌械褉械褋褍胁邪褖懈 褋械 芯褌 屑褗卸泻邪褌邪 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褟.
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First published January 1, 1991
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Guy Corneau
22听books28听followersPsychanalyste de formation, Guy Corneau n'a pas un parcours traditionnel.
Son int茅r锚t s'est d'abord port茅 vers le th茅芒tre. Directeur de la troupe Organisation 脭, un collectif de cr茅ation, il a 茅crit, jou茅 et mis en sc猫ne plusieurs pi猫ces, notamment La complainte de Fleurdelys茅e Fortin qui attira l'attention du r茅alisateur Pierre Gauvreau et qui fut pr茅sent茅e sur les ondes de Radio-Qu茅bec en 1974. Sa toute derni猫re pi猫ce, Elle et Lui dans de beaux draps, a 茅t茅 pr茅sent茅e 脿 Marseille et Aix en Provence 脿 l'hiver 2008.
Apr猫s l'obtention d'une ma卯trise en sciences de l'茅ducation 脿 l'Universit茅 de Montr茅al, en 1976, il est all茅 se former 脿 l'Institut de psychologie analytique C. G. Jung de Z眉rich, o霉 il a re莽u son dipl么me de psychanalyste jungien, en 1981.
Apr猫s une douzaine d'ann茅es pass茅es en cabinet, il a quitt茅 la pratique priv茅e afin de communiquer plus largement. Ce parti pris de vulgarisation s'est alors traduit par de nombreuses conf茅rences publiques, de l'enseignement et de multiples tourn茅es, notamment en Europe francophone, aux 脡tats-Unis, au Japon et au Br茅sil.
Guy Corneau a aussi 茅crit cinq livres qui sont devenus des best-sellers. Le premier s'intitule P猫re manquant, fils manqu茅 (脡ditions de l'homme, 1989). Ce livre a 茅t茅 traduit dans plusieurs langues, incluant le japonais et l'indon茅sien. Paru au Qu茅bec sous le titre L'amour en guerre (脡ditions de l'Homme, 1996), et en Europe sous le titre N'y a-t-il pas d'amour heureux ? (脡ditions Robert Laffont, 1997, et 脡ditions J'ai lu, 1999) son second livre nous parle des rapports hommes-femmes, m猫res-fils, p猫res-filles et a 茅galement connu un grand succ猫s. Publi茅 en l'an 2000 (脡ditions de l'Homme, 脡ditions Robert Laffont, 脡ditions J'ai lu), son troisi猫me livre, La gu茅rison du coeur, pr茅sente une r茅flexion globale sur le sens de la souffrance physique ou psychologique. Victime des autres, bourreau de soi-m锚me, son quatri猫me ouvrage, a paru aux 脡ditions Robert Laffont en avril 2003 et aux 脡ditions de l'Homme en septembre 2003. Il explique comment l'emprise des conditionnements inconscients sabote nos possibilit茅s r茅elles de d茅veloppement. Un cinqui猫me titre: Le Meilleur de soi a 茅t茅 publi茅 en janvier 2007 au Qu茅bec, aux 脡ditions de l'Homme, et en mars 2007 aux 脡ditions Robert Laffont 脿 Paris. On y apprend que l'expression au quotidien, des go没ts et des aptitudes constitue le chemin de la joie. Enfin, sa toute derni猫re oeuvre, un sixi猫me titre: Revivre !, para卯t aux 脡ditions de l'Homme, est lanc茅 au Qu茅bec en octobre 2010 et en Europe en janvier 2011. C'est 脿 partir de sa propre exp茅rience d'un cancer de grade IV qu'il nous invite 脿 r茅fl茅chir aux aspects psychologiques et spirituels de la maladie.
Son int茅r锚t s'est d'abord port茅 vers le th茅芒tre. Directeur de la troupe Organisation 脭, un collectif de cr茅ation, il a 茅crit, jou茅 et mis en sc猫ne plusieurs pi猫ces, notamment La complainte de Fleurdelys茅e Fortin qui attira l'attention du r茅alisateur Pierre Gauvreau et qui fut pr茅sent茅e sur les ondes de Radio-Qu茅bec en 1974. Sa toute derni猫re pi猫ce, Elle et Lui dans de beaux draps, a 茅t茅 pr茅sent茅e 脿 Marseille et Aix en Provence 脿 l'hiver 2008.
Apr猫s l'obtention d'une ma卯trise en sciences de l'茅ducation 脿 l'Universit茅 de Montr茅al, en 1976, il est all茅 se former 脿 l'Institut de psychologie analytique C. G. Jung de Z眉rich, o霉 il a re莽u son dipl么me de psychanalyste jungien, en 1981.
Apr猫s une douzaine d'ann茅es pass茅es en cabinet, il a quitt茅 la pratique priv茅e afin de communiquer plus largement. Ce parti pris de vulgarisation s'est alors traduit par de nombreuses conf茅rences publiques, de l'enseignement et de multiples tourn茅es, notamment en Europe francophone, aux 脡tats-Unis, au Japon et au Br茅sil.
Guy Corneau a aussi 茅crit cinq livres qui sont devenus des best-sellers. Le premier s'intitule P猫re manquant, fils manqu茅 (脡ditions de l'homme, 1989). Ce livre a 茅t茅 traduit dans plusieurs langues, incluant le japonais et l'indon茅sien. Paru au Qu茅bec sous le titre L'amour en guerre (脡ditions de l'Homme, 1996), et en Europe sous le titre N'y a-t-il pas d'amour heureux ? (脡ditions Robert Laffont, 1997, et 脡ditions J'ai lu, 1999) son second livre nous parle des rapports hommes-femmes, m猫res-fils, p猫res-filles et a 茅galement connu un grand succ猫s. Publi茅 en l'an 2000 (脡ditions de l'Homme, 脡ditions Robert Laffont, 脡ditions J'ai lu), son troisi猫me livre, La gu茅rison du coeur, pr茅sente une r茅flexion globale sur le sens de la souffrance physique ou psychologique. Victime des autres, bourreau de soi-m锚me, son quatri猫me ouvrage, a paru aux 脡ditions Robert Laffont en avril 2003 et aux 脡ditions de l'Homme en septembre 2003. Il explique comment l'emprise des conditionnements inconscients sabote nos possibilit茅s r茅elles de d茅veloppement. Un cinqui猫me titre: Le Meilleur de soi a 茅t茅 publi茅 en janvier 2007 au Qu茅bec, aux 脡ditions de l'Homme, et en mars 2007 aux 脡ditions Robert Laffont 脿 Paris. On y apprend que l'expression au quotidien, des go没ts et des aptitudes constitue le chemin de la joie. Enfin, sa toute derni猫re oeuvre, un sixi猫me titre: Revivre !, para卯t aux 脡ditions de l'Homme, est lanc茅 au Qu茅bec en octobre 2010 et en Europe en janvier 2011. C'est 脿 partir de sa propre exp茅rience d'un cancer de grade IV qu'il nous invite 脿 r茅fl茅chir aux aspects psychologiques et spirituels de la maladie.
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August 2, 2017
If you've felt the absence of a father figure throughout your life, you'll feel like this book has been written specifically for you. I've had a lot of "a-ha" moments during this read. Of course these insights will make more sense if you're undergoing therapy, as the healing process is quicker. This book doesn't give you "carte blanche" to blame your father (or lack thereof) for all the shortcomings in your life though: our parents were just normal people, acting in good faith. It's our responsibility, with therapy's help, to learn a way to "father ourselves" and reclaim our masculinity.
August 13, 2023
袛芯褋褌邪 褌褉褍写薪芯 褋褗褍屑褟褏 写邪 锌褉芯褔械褌邪 褌邪蟹懈 泻薪懈谐邪 鈥� 薪械 斜懈褏 屑芯谐谢邪 写邪 锌褉械写芯褋褌邪胁褟 锌褉褟泻芯 芯斜褟褋薪械薪懈械 蟹邪 褌芯蟹懈 鈥炑勑敌叫拘夹敌解€�, 薪芯 芯锌褉械写械谢械薪芯 懈蟹锌懈褌胁邪褏 懈蟹胁械褋褌薪邪 写芯蟹邪 薪械卸械谢邪薪懈械, 谐邪褉薪懈褉邪薪芯 褋 谢懈锌褋邪 薪邪 胁褋褟泻邪泻褗胁 懈薪褌械褉械褋. 小褗胁褋械屑 胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯 械 写邪 褋褗屑 褋械 蟹邪褏胁邪薪邪谢邪 褋 褌芯胁邪 褔械褌懈胁芯 胁 屑芯屑械薪褌, 胁 泻芯泄褌芯 锌褉芯褋褌芯 褌褗褉褋械薪懈褟褌邪 屑懈 褋邪 褉邪蟹谢懈褔薪懈.
袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 屑懈 褋械 褋褌芯褉懈 褋械屑锌谢邪 鈥� 锌褉械泻邪谢械薪芯 泻褉邪褌泻懈 芯斜褟褋薪械薪懈褟, 锌褉械泻芯屑械褉薪芯 芯斜褖懈 懈蟹泻邪蟹胁邪薪懈褟; 褋褗写褗褉卸邪褕械 锌芯-褋泻芯褉芯 锌褉邪蟹薪懈 屑械褌邪褎芯褉懈, 褔褉械蟹 泻芯懈褌芯 写邪 褋械 懈蟹褉邪蟹懈 薪褟泻邪泻胁邪 锌褉械褌械薪褑懈褟 褋 薪械懈蟹胁械褋褌械薪 褋屑懈褋褗谢. 袪邪蟹褟褋薪褟胁邪褏邪 褋械 褋 斜械谢械卸泻懈 锌芯写 褉械写 写芯褋褌邪褌褗褔薪芯 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪懈 懈 薪邪胁谢械蟹谢懈 胁 械卸械写薪械胁薪邪褌邪 薪懈 褍锌芯褌褉械斜邪 写褍屑懈 (懈 褌芯 锌芯 芯褋芯斜械薪芯 鈥炐感沸秆佇盒靶解€� 薪邪褔懈薪), 泻芯械褌芯 褋褗褋 褋懈谐褍褉薪芯褋褌 薪械 锌芯褋褌懈谐邪 薪褟泻邪泻褗胁 锌褉械写胁邪褉懈褌械谢薪芯 褌褗褉褋械薪 械褎械泻褌. 袧邪斜褗褉蟹芯 (锌褉械)褉邪蟹泻邪蟹邪薪懈 褋谢褍褔邪懈 芯褌 锌褉邪泻褌懈泻邪褌邪, 斜械蟹 泻芯薪泻褉械褌懈蟹邪褑懈懈.
袗泻芯 褋械 褎芯泻褍褋懈褉邪屑械 胁褗褉褏褍 鈥炐啃�-谐谢芯斜邪谢薪芯褌芯鈥� 芯斜邪褔械, 泻薪懈谐邪褌邪 械 薪芯褋懈褌械谢 薪邪 褋褌芯泄薪芯褋褌 鈥� 懈写械褟褌邪 械 写邪 褋械 鈥炑€邪蟹薪懈褖懈鈥� 褌械屑邪褌邪 蟹邪 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁邪褖懈褟 斜邪褖邪 懈 褎褍薪泻褑懈褟褌邪 屑褍 胁 谢懈褔薪芯褋褌薪芯褌芯 褉邪蟹胁懈褌懈械 懈 懈蟹褉邪褋褌胁邪薪械 薪邪 褋懈薪邪. 袛邪谢懈 械 胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯 写邪 褋械 褉邪蟹谐褉邪薪懈褔懈 泻褗写械 褋械 薪邪屑懈褉邪 褋褌邪薪写邪褉褌薪芯褌芯, 芯斜褖芯褔芯胁械褕泻芯 写芯褉懈, 胁褗蟹锌褉懈褟褌懈械 蟹邪 褌芯胁邪 懈 泻褗写械 鈥� 锌芯-褋锌械褑懈褎懈褔薪芯褌芯 懈谢懈 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢薪芯, 薪械 斜懈褏 屑芯谐谢邪 写邪 芯锌褉械写械谢褟. 袨褋褌邪胁邪屑 褋褟泻邪褕 褋 写芯褋褌邪 胁褗锌褉芯褋懈褌械谢薪懈 锌芯泻褉邪泄 褌芯蟹懈 褌褉褍写.
袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 屑懈 褋械 褋褌芯褉懈 褋械屑锌谢邪 鈥� 锌褉械泻邪谢械薪芯 泻褉邪褌泻懈 芯斜褟褋薪械薪懈褟, 锌褉械泻芯屑械褉薪芯 芯斜褖懈 懈蟹泻邪蟹胁邪薪懈褟; 褋褗写褗褉卸邪褕械 锌芯-褋泻芯褉芯 锌褉邪蟹薪懈 屑械褌邪褎芯褉懈, 褔褉械蟹 泻芯懈褌芯 写邪 褋械 懈蟹褉邪蟹懈 薪褟泻邪泻胁邪 锌褉械褌械薪褑懈褟 褋 薪械懈蟹胁械褋褌械薪 褋屑懈褋褗谢. 袪邪蟹褟褋薪褟胁邪褏邪 褋械 褋 斜械谢械卸泻懈 锌芯写 褉械写 写芯褋褌邪褌褗褔薪芯 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪懈 懈 薪邪胁谢械蟹谢懈 胁 械卸械写薪械胁薪邪褌邪 薪懈 褍锌芯褌褉械斜邪 写褍屑懈 (懈 褌芯 锌芯 芯褋芯斜械薪芯 鈥炐感沸秆佇盒靶解€� 薪邪褔懈薪), 泻芯械褌芯 褋褗褋 褋懈谐褍褉薪芯褋褌 薪械 锌芯褋褌懈谐邪 薪褟泻邪泻褗胁 锌褉械写胁邪褉懈褌械谢薪芯 褌褗褉褋械薪 械褎械泻褌. 袧邪斜褗褉蟹芯 (锌褉械)褉邪蟹泻邪蟹邪薪懈 褋谢褍褔邪懈 芯褌 锌褉邪泻褌懈泻邪褌邪, 斜械蟹 泻芯薪泻褉械褌懈蟹邪褑懈懈.
袗泻芯 褋械 褎芯泻褍褋懈褉邪屑械 胁褗褉褏褍 鈥炐啃�-谐谢芯斜邪谢薪芯褌芯鈥� 芯斜邪褔械, 泻薪懈谐邪褌邪 械 薪芯褋懈褌械谢 薪邪 褋褌芯泄薪芯褋褌 鈥� 懈写械褟褌邪 械 写邪 褋械 鈥炑€邪蟹薪懈褖懈鈥� 褌械屑邪褌邪 蟹邪 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁邪褖懈褟 斜邪褖邪 懈 褎褍薪泻褑懈褟褌邪 屑褍 胁 谢懈褔薪芯褋褌薪芯褌芯 褉邪蟹胁懈褌懈械 懈 懈蟹褉邪褋褌胁邪薪械 薪邪 褋懈薪邪. 袛邪谢懈 械 胁褗蟹屑芯卸薪芯 写邪 褋械 褉邪蟹谐褉邪薪懈褔懈 泻褗写械 褋械 薪邪屑懈褉邪 褋褌邪薪写邪褉褌薪芯褌芯, 芯斜褖芯褔芯胁械褕泻芯 写芯褉懈, 胁褗蟹锌褉懈褟褌懈械 蟹邪 褌芯胁邪 懈 泻褗写械 鈥� 锌芯-褋锌械褑懈褎懈褔薪芯褌芯 懈谢懈 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢薪芯, 薪械 斜懈褏 屑芯谐谢邪 写邪 芯锌褉械写械谢褟. 袨褋褌邪胁邪屑 褋褟泻邪褕 褋 写芯褋褌邪 胁褗锌褉芯褋懈褌械谢薪懈 锌芯泻褉邪泄 褌芯蟹懈 褌褉褍写.
June 12, 2017
I've never had much respect for psychoanalysis so I knew early on that this wasn't going to go well. That said, here are my thoughts:
Liked:
- The author identified several common psychological issues and provided very brief suggestions for how these people might help themselves. It should be noted that this is not a significant portion of the book. Don't come here looking for that.
Didn't Like:
- Author's selective citations. He included a citation for a word from the dictionary, but didn't include any where it might have been useful, such as in his repeated analysis of dreams, stories, and behaviour which invariably led back to the patients' father issues.
- The aforementioned father issues. It seemed like the author had an extreme confirmation bias and was looking for an "absent father" in all his patients. I don't want to claim that this is because he needs to work through his own issues surrounding his travelling salesman father, but I think I just did.
- Citations from Carl Jung institutes were far too frequent. I found it hard to take the author seriously, given that it seemed all his information was coming from a very small group of people who may very well only be talking amongst themselves.
- Education. This is related to a couple of points above, but the author appears to have no psychological background, except for his "graduation" from the Association of Jungian Psychoanalysts of Quebec. Obviously his lack of a formal education in this field doesn't make his ideas any less valid, but I personally found myself questioning his qualifications every time he made sweeping generalizations about his patients based on very little information.
Liked:
- The author identified several common psychological issues and provided very brief suggestions for how these people might help themselves. It should be noted that this is not a significant portion of the book. Don't come here looking for that.
Didn't Like:
- Author's selective citations. He included a citation for a word from the dictionary, but didn't include any where it might have been useful, such as in his repeated analysis of dreams, stories, and behaviour which invariably led back to the patients' father issues.
- The aforementioned father issues. It seemed like the author had an extreme confirmation bias and was looking for an "absent father" in all his patients. I don't want to claim that this is because he needs to work through his own issues surrounding his travelling salesman father, but I think I just did.
- Citations from Carl Jung institutes were far too frequent. I found it hard to take the author seriously, given that it seemed all his information was coming from a very small group of people who may very well only be talking amongst themselves.
- Education. This is related to a couple of points above, but the author appears to have no psychological background, except for his "graduation" from the Association of Jungian Psychoanalysts of Quebec. Obviously his lack of a formal education in this field doesn't make his ideas any less valid, but I personally found myself questioning his qualifications every time he made sweeping generalizations about his patients based on very little information.
August 14, 2015
En nuestra sociedad, much铆simos hijos hemos tenido un padre ausente, algunos ni siquiera lo han conocido; para otros, la ausencia ha sido m谩s moral que f铆sica. El resultado ha sido m谩s o menos el mismo. Sin una figura paterna los suficientemente decisiva como para desencadenar el arquetipo paterno (esa respuesta a la pregunta 驴c贸mo ser un hombre?), nos hemos refugiado en la madre, en lo femenino, y andamos por la vida buscando esa parte que nos falta.
Llenos de resentimiento e idealizando al padre en nuestra psique, desempe帽amos papeles en la vida como si fu茅ramos actores teatrales. Corneau nos esboza los personajes m谩s comunes, entre los que se encuentran el 丑茅谤辞别, el seductor, el eterno adolescente, etc. Entramos en esta farsa teatral porque no tenemos alternativa, mientras no seamos capaces de ser nuestro propio padre, perdonando al real y olvidando las idealizaciones, no podremos entrar en contacto con nuestro verdadero yo; pero antes tendremos que abrazar nuestra sombra, eso que no queremos ver en nosotros y que proyectamos en los dem谩s.
Guy Corneau nos muestra que no estamos solos en esta problem谩tica y que s铆 hay soluci贸n.
Llenos de resentimiento e idealizando al padre en nuestra psique, desempe帽amos papeles en la vida como si fu茅ramos actores teatrales. Corneau nos esboza los personajes m谩s comunes, entre los que se encuentran el 丑茅谤辞别, el seductor, el eterno adolescente, etc. Entramos en esta farsa teatral porque no tenemos alternativa, mientras no seamos capaces de ser nuestro propio padre, perdonando al real y olvidando las idealizaciones, no podremos entrar en contacto con nuestro verdadero yo; pero antes tendremos que abrazar nuestra sombra, eso que no queremos ver en nosotros y que proyectamos en los dem谩s.
Guy Corneau nos muestra que no estamos solos en esta problem谩tica y que s铆 hay soluci贸n.
January 7, 2024
Oh! Je suis donc DEVENU homosexuel 脿 cause de mon p猫re distant et de ma m猫re aimante. Wow! Merci Ti-Guy!
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Je le sais que c'est un vieux livre, mais lire le chapitre sur "le probl猫me de l'homosexualit茅" (et franchement l'ensemble de l'艙uvre d茅gueulassement h茅t茅ro normatif) en 2024 est enrageant. 脌 classer 脿 c么t茅 de Les hommes viennent de Mars, les femmes viennent de V茅nus sur la tablette des livres que personne ne devrait avoir 脿 lire...
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Je le sais que c'est un vieux livre, mais lire le chapitre sur "le probl猫me de l'homosexualit茅" (et franchement l'ensemble de l'艙uvre d茅gueulassement h茅t茅ro normatif) en 2024 est enrageant. 脌 classer 脿 c么t茅 de Les hommes viennent de Mars, les femmes viennent de V茅nus sur la tablette des livres que personne ne devrait avoir 脿 lire...
October 15, 2017
賯爻賲鬲蹖 丕夭 賲鬲賳 讴鬲丕亘:
賴賳诏丕賲蹖 讴賴 賮乇丿蹖 爻丕蹖賴 丕卮 乇丕 賲蹖 倬匕蹖乇丿貙 亘丕蹖丿 丕蹖賳 丕蹖丿賴 蹖 賵丕賴蹖 乇丕 賮乇丕賲賵卮 讴賳丿 讴賴 讴丕賲賱 賵 亘蹖 賳賯氐 丕爻鬲. 丕賵 亘丕蹖丿 賲鬲賵噩賴 卮賵丿 讴賴 賴乇诏夭 讴丕賲賱 賳禺賵丕賴丿 亘賵丿 賵 賴乇诏夭 丌賳 賯丿乇 胤賵賱丕賳蹖 夭賳丿诏蹖 賳賲蹖 讴賳丿 鬲丕 賴乇 丌賳趩賴 丿乇 禺賵丿卮 丿賵爻鬲 賳丿丕乇丿 乇丕 鬲睾蹖蹖乇 丿賴丿
賴賳诏丕賲蹖 讴賴 賮乇丿蹖 爻丕蹖賴 丕卮 乇丕 賲蹖 倬匕蹖乇丿貙 亘丕蹖丿 丕蹖賳 丕蹖丿賴 蹖 賵丕賴蹖 乇丕 賮乇丕賲賵卮 讴賳丿 讴賴 讴丕賲賱 賵 亘蹖 賳賯氐 丕爻鬲. 丕賵 亘丕蹖丿 賲鬲賵噩賴 卮賵丿 讴賴 賴乇诏夭 讴丕賲賱 賳禺賵丕賴丿 亘賵丿 賵 賴乇诏夭 丌賳 賯丿乇 胤賵賱丕賳蹖 夭賳丿诏蹖 賳賲蹖 讴賳丿 鬲丕 賴乇 丌賳趩賴 丿乇 禺賵丿卮 丿賵爻鬲 賳丿丕乇丿 乇丕 鬲睾蹖蹖乇 丿賴丿
December 6, 2023
What do a broscience podcast on hunting, a priestly talk as part of a literary lecture series, and a Jungian psychoanalyst's treatise all have in common?
The first is that I, Monika, happened to listen/watch/read all three of them serendipitously in the space of a week. The second is that all three of them quite independently lamented the loss of real masculine values, fatherly influence, and tribal initiation in the West during the years particularly following the baby boom of our parents.
[I attach both the video and the podcast below, and encourage you to watch particularly the first one if you happen to speak French.]
The family unit, in the name of freedom and individualism, has crumbled. At the time of writing (1982) Corneau counts 1,307,860 children in France living in single parent families where that one parent is a woman. In Canada about one of every 6 families was the same. There are also many many more emotionally absent fathers. Now there must be many more.
L'abb茅 de Maistre (above) says that 鈥淓lles (females) savent tres bien qui elles sont.鈥� It is males who need the close presence of an imitable father figure and initiation rituals for proper development and self-identification. I wonder if he had read Corneau.
Everyone thinks they know a little about psychoanalysis. Freudian ideas are so founded on explicitly sexual incestuous dreams (oedepus complex etc etc) that it was impossible for them not to become common topics of conversation from teenage years onwards. Corneau is a Jungian devotee and Jung was a contemporary of his germanophone friend.
My conclusion after reading even a bit of this work is that no matter how entertaining it is to read Freud/Jung/Corneau/[insert other] it is unwise to take their works to seriously.
I think it was Plomin (whose book Blueprint I read recently and who really impressed me) brought up the whole Freud thing. He writes:
I did get the feeling that Jung was searching to illustrate his hypothesis with colorful character studies. Each one more dysfunctional than the last. I did begin to wonder if anyone could escape his pathololisation of their personality. Everthing could be traced back to the loss of a father: lack of ambition but also perfectionism; frigidity but also playboy behaviours; thrill seeking and overpoliteness; homosexuality and fear-of-homosexuality. Nothing could not fit.
In all probability the answer is that non-pathology lies in the virtuous compromise. But still. I didn't like this.
There was, howver, one overarching and recurrent problem that these males had; the inability to form any healthy attachment to women. A failure of any sort of intimacy with the opposite sex.According to Corneau this failure could be linked completely back to the lack of balancing strong male character in the household and the problematic overattachment or resentment that festered towards the mother who remained.
My other beef with Corneau is that when he ventures into Domains that are not his own, such as religion and biology, he is downright silly;
鈥淪aint Joseph鈥� participated very little in the active life of his son Jesus鈥�
鈥淏iologists affirm that at the embryonic stage we are all initially female鈥� (he follows that this slippery biological tendency is why masculinity is fragile and therefore must be constantly affirmed.)
Luckily I do not think that these were detractors.
There were elements and moments of this book that give pause; and thinking back it was probably because the stregth of consistency of a result was too much to ignore. Corneau is a clinical psychotherapist, and the sheer number of male patients in whom he sees the same gaping patterns of problem left after the absence of their fathers is too much to ignore. Likewise, when Corneau echoed Phillippe de Maistre echoed The Meat Mafia podcast the inferences became convincing enough from these three divergent sources to become almost scientific. Almost.
The first is that I, Monika, happened to listen/watch/read all three of them serendipitously in the space of a week. The second is that all three of them quite independently lamented the loss of real masculine values, fatherly influence, and tribal initiation in the West during the years particularly following the baby boom of our parents.
[I attach both the video and the podcast below, and encourage you to watch particularly the first one if you happen to speak French.]
The family unit, in the name of freedom and individualism, has crumbled. At the time of writing (1982) Corneau counts 1,307,860 children in France living in single parent families where that one parent is a woman. In Canada about one of every 6 families was the same. There are also many many more emotionally absent fathers. Now there must be many more.
L'abb茅 de Maistre (above) says that 鈥淓lles (females) savent tres bien qui elles sont.鈥� It is males who need the close presence of an imitable father figure and initiation rituals for proper development and self-identification. I wonder if he had read Corneau.
Everyone thinks they know a little about psychoanalysis. Freudian ideas are so founded on explicitly sexual incestuous dreams (oedepus complex etc etc) that it was impossible for them not to become common topics of conversation from teenage years onwards. Corneau is a Jungian devotee and Jung was a contemporary of his germanophone friend.
My conclusion after reading even a bit of this work is that no matter how entertaining it is to read Freud/Jung/Corneau/[insert other] it is unwise to take their works to seriously.
I think it was Plomin (whose book Blueprint I read recently and who really impressed me) brought up the whole Freud thing. He writes:
Freud thought that parenting is the essential ingredient in a child's development... He wrote persuasively about clinical case studies that supported his ideas, but he provided no real data. When research was done to test his ideas, little support was found for them. The philosopher of science Karl Popper claimed that Freud's theories were presented in a form that made them impossible to disprove, which is the Popperian sin against the first commondment of science that theories be not just testable but falsifiable.
I did get the feeling that Jung was searching to illustrate his hypothesis with colorful character studies. Each one more dysfunctional than the last. I did begin to wonder if anyone could escape his pathololisation of their personality. Everthing could be traced back to the loss of a father: lack of ambition but also perfectionism; frigidity but also playboy behaviours; thrill seeking and overpoliteness; homosexuality and fear-of-homosexuality. Nothing could not fit.
In all probability the answer is that non-pathology lies in the virtuous compromise. But still. I didn't like this.
There was, howver, one overarching and recurrent problem that these males had; the inability to form any healthy attachment to women. A failure of any sort of intimacy with the opposite sex.According to Corneau this failure could be linked completely back to the lack of balancing strong male character in the household and the problematic overattachment or resentment that festered towards the mother who remained.
My other beef with Corneau is that when he ventures into Domains that are not his own, such as religion and biology, he is downright silly;
鈥淪aint Joseph鈥� participated very little in the active life of his son Jesus鈥�
鈥淏iologists affirm that at the embryonic stage we are all initially female鈥� (he follows that this slippery biological tendency is why masculinity is fragile and therefore must be constantly affirmed.)
Luckily I do not think that these were detractors.
There were elements and moments of this book that give pause; and thinking back it was probably because the stregth of consistency of a result was too much to ignore. Corneau is a clinical psychotherapist, and the sheer number of male patients in whom he sees the same gaping patterns of problem left after the absence of their fathers is too much to ignore. Likewise, when Corneau echoed Phillippe de Maistre echoed The Meat Mafia podcast the inferences became convincing enough from these three divergent sources to become almost scientific. Almost.
April 16, 2023
袣褍锌懈褏 褋懈 褌邪蟹懈 泻薪懈谐邪, 锌芯写屑邪屑械薪 芯褌 芯斜械褖邪薪懈械褌芯 写邪 薪邪褍褔邪 薪褟泻邪泻胁懈 薪芯胁懈 懈褋褌懈薪懈 蟹邪 褋械斜械 褋懈. 袧邪锌褉邪蟹薪芯 芯锌懈褌邪褏 写邪 褋械 芯褌泻褉懈褟 懈蟹褔械褉锌邪褌械谢薪芯 芯锌懈褋邪薪 胁 薪褟泻芯褟 芯褌 泻邪褌械谐芯褉懈懈褌械, 泻芯懈褌芯 袣芯褉薪芯 泻芯薪褋褌懈褌褍懈褉邪. 袩褉械写锌芯谢邪谐邪屑, 褔械 胁褋械泻懈 褔懈褌邪褌械谢 薪邪 锌芯写芯斜薪邪 谢懈褌械褉邪褌褍褉邪 谐芯 锌褉邪胁懈 鈥� 芯锌懈褌胁邪 褋械 写邪 褋械 薪邪屑械褉懈 薪褟泻褗写械 锌芯 褋褌褉邪薪懈褑懈褌械. 袨褔邪泻胁邪 褌褉械锌械褌薪懈褟 屑芯屑械薪褌 薪邪 锌褉芯褋胁械褌谢械薪懈械褌芯: 鈥炐愌呅�! 袝褌芯 泻褗写械 褋褗屑 斜懈谢 邪蟹! 袝褌芯 蟹邪褖芯 褌邪泻邪 懈 褌邪泻邪 屑懈 褋械 褋褌械褔械 卸懈胁芯褌褗褌 鈥� 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褋褗屑 褌邪泻褗胁 懈 褌邪泻褗胁 褔芯胁械泻. 孝芯 斜懈谢芯 屑薪芯谐芯 锌褉芯褋褌芯 懈 褏芯褉邪褌邪 褋邪 屑械 斜懈谢懈 褉邪蟹谐邪写邪谢懈 芯褌写邪胁薪邪, 邪 邪蟹 褔邪泻 褋械谐邪 锌芯谢褍褔邪胁邪屑 写芯褋褌褗锌 写芯 褌芯胁邪 芯斜褖芯懈蟹胁械褋褌薪芯 蟹薪邪薪懈械.鈥� 袝, 锌褉械写锌芯谢邪谐邪屑, 褔械 邪泻芯 斜械褕械 褌芯谢泻芯胁邪 谢械褋薪芯, 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈褑懈褌械 芯褌写邪胁薪邪 褖褟褏邪 写邪 褋邪 褋褌邪薪邪谢懈 薪邪锌褗谢薪芯 懈蟹谢懈褕薪懈. 些褟褏屑械 写邪 褋械 芯褌泻褉懈胁邪屑械 薪褟泻褗写械, 薪邪写谢械卸薪芯 芯锌懈褋邪薪懈, 褖褟褏屑械 写邪 褋懈 胁邪写懈屑 蟹邪泻谢褞褔械薪懈褟褌邪, 写邪 锌芯锌褉邪胁褟屑械 谐褉械褕泻懈褌械 胁 卸懈胁芯褌邪 褋懈 懈 芯褌褌邪屑 薪邪褌邪褌褗泻 胁褋懈褔泻芯 写邪 胁褗褉胁懈 谐谢邪写泻芯. 袛邪, 邪屑邪 薪械! 效芯胁械褕泻邪褌邪 锌褋懈褏懈泻邪 械 褋谢芯卸械薪 褎械薪芯屑械薪 懈 邪胁褌芯褉褗褌 薪械褋谢褍褔邪泄薪芯 褋械 锌褉械蟹邪褋褌褉邪褏芯胁邪 芯褖械 胁 薪邪褔邪谢芯褌芯 褋 褍褌芯褔薪械薪懈械褌芯, 褔械 薪械 芯锌懈褋胁邪 锌褗谢薪芯泻褉褗胁薪懈 谢懈褔薪芯褋褌懈, 邪 褋邪屑芯 芯褌写械谢薪邪, 屑邪泻邪褉 懈 屑薪芯谐芯 胁懈写懈屑邪, 褌褟褏薪邪 褔械褉褌邪. 袠 锌芯褋谢械, 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪 褋械, 褋械 芯褌褉懈褔邪 芯褌 写褍屑懈褌械 褋懈, 懈蟹写邪胁邪泄泻懈 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈褔薪懈 锌褉懈褋褗写懈 蟹邪 械写懈薪 懈谢懈 写褉褍谐 褋谢褍褔邪泄, 芯褋薪芯胁邪薪懈 懈屑械薪薪芯 薪邪 邪薪邪谢懈蟹懈褌械 薪邪 褌邪蟹懈 懈蟹芯谢懈褉邪薪邪 褔械褉褌邪.
袨褋褌邪薪邪褏 褋 褍褋械褖邪薪械褌芯, 褔械 褔械褌邪 芯锌懈褋邪薪懈械 薪邪 蟹芯写懈邪泻邪谢薪懈褟 屑懈 蟹薪邪泻 鈥� 薪褟泻芯谢泻芯 胁械褉薪懈 薪械褖邪 懈 芯褖械 褌芯谢泻芯胁邪 写褉褍谐懈, 褋 泻芯懈褌芯 薪械 屑芯谐邪 锌芯 薪懈泻邪泻褗胁 薪邪褔懈薪 写邪 褋械 褋褗谐谢邪褋褟. 袗泻芯 锌褗泻 芯褌胁芯褉褟 写邪 褔械褌邪 蟹邪 薪褟泻芯褟 写褉褍谐邪 蟹芯写懈褟 鈥� 懈 褌邪屑 褋褗褖芯褌芯 鈥� 褉邪蟹锌芯蟹薪邪胁邪屑 褋械 胁 薪褟泻芯懈 芯锌懈褋邪薪懈褟, 写芯泻邪褌芯 胁 写褉褍谐懈 鈥� 薪械. 孝邪泻邪 懈 褋 泻邪褌械谐芯褉懈懈褌械 薪邪 袚懈 袣芯褉薪芯. 校卸 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈褔薪芯 褔械褌懈胁芯, 邪屑邪 薪械 褋褗胁褋械屑. 袩褗谢薪芯 褋 锌芯写褉芯斜薪懈 芯斜褟褋薪械薪懈褟 锌芯写 谢懈薪懈褟 薪邪 胁械褔械 写芯斜懈谢懈 褕懈褉芯泻邪 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪芯褋褌 褟胁谢械薪懈褟, 泻邪褌芯 薪邪锌褉. 邪褍褌懈蟹褗屑, 写懈褋谢械泻褋懈褟, 褌褉邪薪褋褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褋褌, 斜褗褉薪邪褍褌, 械屑锌邪褌懈褟 懈 写褉. 袨斜褟褋薪褟胁邪 薪懈 写芯褉懈 泻邪泻胁芯 械 鈥炑幮啃糕€� 懈 薪邪 泻芯谢泻芯 褋邪薪褌懈屑械褌褉邪 械 褉邪胁械薪 械写懈薪 懈薪褔! 袛芯泻邪褌芯 写褉褍谐懈 锌芯薪褟褌懈褟, 薪邪泄-胁械褔械 芯褌 褋锌械褑懈褎懈褔薪邪褌邪 褌械褉屑懈薪芯谢芯谐懈褟 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪褌邪, 芯褋褌邪胁邪褌 薪械懈蟹褟褋薪械薪懈. 袙 泻褉邪泄薪邪 褋屑械褌泻邪 蟹邪 泻芯谐芯 械 褌邪蟹懈 泻薪懈谐邪 鈥� 蟹邪 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢懈褋褌懈褌械 懈谢懈 蟹邪 锌芯-褕懈褉芯泻 泻褉褗谐 褔懈褌邪褌械谢懈? 袦邪泄 薪懈褌芯 褋褗胁褋械屑 蟹邪 械写薪懈褌械, 薪懈褌芯 褋褗胁褋械屑 蟹邪 写褉褍谐懈褌械. 小褌褉邪薪薪邪 褋懈屑斜懈芯蟹邪, 锌芯写芯斜薪邪 薪邪 屑邪泄褋褌芯褉褋泻懈褌械 泻谢邪褋芯胁械, 蟹邪 泻芯懈褌芯 薪懈 褋械 芯斜褟褋薪褟胁邪, 褔械 斜懈谢懈 泻邪泻褌芯 蟹邪 薪邪褔懈薪邪械褖懈, 褌邪泻邪 懈 蟹邪 薪邪锌褉械写薪邪谢懈, 褔械 写邪卸械 懈 蟹邪 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢懈褋褌懈. 袣芯褉薪芯 蟹胁褍褔懈 泻邪褌芯 褋锌械褑懈邪谢懈褋褌, 泻芯泄褌芯 褋械 芯锌懈褌胁邪 写邪 薪械 褋械 芯褌锌褍褋泻邪 胁 写械斜褉懈褌械 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪褌邪, 蟹邪 写邪 薪械 懈蟹谐褍斜懈 锌芯-薪械蟹邪锌芯蟹薪邪褌懈褌械 褋懈 褋 褌邪蟹懈 芯斜谢邪褋褌 薪邪 薪邪褍泻邪褌邪 褔懈褌邪褌械谢懈. 袠谢懈 锌褗泻 芯斜褉邪褌薪芯褌芯 鈥� 泻邪褌芯 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉械薪 邪胁褌芯褉, 泻芯泄褌芯 胁泻邪褉胁邪 褌褍泻-褌邪屑 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪, 蟹邪 写邪 褋懈 锌褉懈写邪胁邪 胁邪卸薪芯褋褌. 袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 褋械 褔械褌械 谢械褋薪芯, 薪芯 泻邪褌芯 胁褗蟹写械泄褋褌胁懈械, 泻邪褌芯 褋懈谢邪 写邪 褍斜械卸写邪胁邪 胁 懈褋褌懈薪薪芯褋褌褌邪 薪邪 褌械蟹懈褌械 褋懈, 薪械 械 薪邪 薪械芯斜褏芯写懈屑芯褌芯 薪懈胁芯. 袦械薪 锌芯薪械 薪械 屑芯卸邪 写邪 屑械 褍斜械写懈.
袗泻芯 褌褉褟斜胁邪 写邪 褋械 褋懈屑锌谢懈褎懈褑懈褉邪 写芯 械写薪芯 械写懈薪褋褌胁械薪芯 懈蟹褉械褔械薪懈械: 鈥炐⌒感叫拘残笛傂�, 褔懈懈褌芯 斜邪褖懈 褋邪 斜懈谢懈 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁邪褖懈, 褋邪 锌褉械褑邪泻邪薪懈!鈥� 袗屑邪 薪懈械 褌芯胁邪 褋懈 谐芯 蟹薪邪械褏屑械 懈 芯褌 锌芯-褉邪薪芯, 锌褉械写懈 写邪 褋屑械 褔械谢懈 袣芯褉薪芯. 袙懈卸写邪谢懈 褋屑械 谐芯 屑薪芯谐芯 锌褗褌懈 胁 卸懈胁懈褟 卸懈胁芯褌 芯泻芯谢芯 褋械斜械 褋懈. 小褌褉械屑械卸褗褌 薪邪 袣芯褉薪芯 (屑邪泻邪褉 芯褔械胁懈写薪芯 褌芯胁邪 写邪 薪械 械 薪械谐芯胁芯 芯褌泻褉懈褌懈械 胁 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褟褌邪) 械 写邪 薪懈 芯斜褟褋薪懈 蟹邪褖芯 褌芯褔薪芯 褋邪 锌褉械褑邪泻邪薪懈, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 写邪 薪懈 写邪写械 薪褟泻邪泻褗胁 械胁械薪褌褍邪谢械薪 锌褗褌 蟹邪 褋邪屑芯谢械褔械薪懈械, 泻芯泄褌芯, 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪 褋械, 薪懈泻芯谐邪 薪褟屑邪 写邪 褋械 褋谢褍褔懈 薪邪 锌褉邪泻褌懈泻邪. 袧邪锌褉邪蟹薪懈 褋邪 锌褉芯褋褌褉邪薪薪懈褌械 芯褌锌谢械褋胁邪薪懈褟 薪邪 邪胁褌芯褉邪 锌芯 谐褉褗褑泻邪褌邪 屑懈褌芯谢芯谐懈褟, 锌芯 褋褌芯泄薪芯褋褌褌邪 薪邪 褎械屑懈薪懈蟹屑邪, 褏芯屑芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢懈蟹屑邪 懈 谐褉懈卸邪褌邪 蟹邪 芯泻芯谢薪邪褌邪 褋褉械写邪. 袛芯褌芯谢泻芯胁邪, 褔械 胁 械写薪芯 懈薪褌械褉胁褞 薪邪 褎褉械薪褋泻懈 屑褍 蟹邪写邪胁邪褌 写懈褉械泻褌薪懈褟 胁褗锌褉芯褋 写邪谢懈 褌芯泄 褋邪屑懈褟褌 械 谐械泄. 袦邪谢泻芯 锌褉械泻邪谢械薪邪 屑懈 写芯泄写械 懈写械褟褌邪 蟹邪 锌褉械谐褉褗褖邪薪械褌芯 薪邪 褏芯屑芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褌芯 褍 屑褗卸邪 泻邪褌芯 蟹写褉邪胁芯褋谢芯胁薪邪 锌褉械褏芯写薪邪 褋褌褗锌泻邪 泻褗屑 褏械褌械褉芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褋褌褌邪. 袧芯 褌芯胁邪 械 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪, 胁褋械 锌邪泻 鈥� 胁 薪械褟 胁褋褟泻邪 懈写械褟, 泻芯谢泻芯褌芯 懈 褉邪写懈泻邪谢薪邪 写邪 械 褌褟, 械 褉邪蟹褉械褕械薪邪. 小褌褉褍胁邪 屑懈 褋械 芯斜邪褔械, 褔械 褌芯胁邪 械 锌芯褉械写薪邪褌邪 泻薪懈谐邪, 胁 泻芯褟褌芯 邪写褉械褋邪薪褌 懈 邪写褉械褋邪褌 褋械 褉邪蟹屑懈薪邪胁邪褌. 袛芯斜褉芯褌芯 卸械谢邪薪懈械 薪邪 袣芯褉薪芯 写邪 锌芯屑芯谐薪械 薪邪 胁褋懈褔泻懈 褌械蟹懈 芯斜褗褉泻邪薪懈 屑褗卸械 褖械 褍写邪褉懈 薪邪 泻邪屑褗泻, 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褌械 械写胁邪 谢懈 褖械 锌芯褋械谐薪邪褌 写邪 锌褉芯褔械褌邪褌 泻薪懈谐邪褌邪 屑褍. 些械 写芯泄写邪褌 胁 泻邪斜懈薪械褌邪 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈泻邪, 械写胁邪 泻芯谐邪褌芯 薪械褖邪褌邪 褋邪 褋械 芯锌谢械谢懈 写芯 褋褌械锌械薪 薪邪 薪械锌芯锌褉邪胁懈屑芯褋褌, 泻邪泻褌芯 褍屑械褋褌薪芯 芯褌斜械谢褟蟹胁邪 褌芯胁邪 褋邪屑懈褟褌 邪胁褌芯褉. 袣芯谢械斜邪械褖懈褌械 褋械 (泻邪褌芯 屑械薪) 褖械 褟 锌褉芯褔械褌邪褌, 褋邪屑芯 蟹邪 写邪 芯褌泻褉懈褟褌, 褔械 褌芯胁邪 胁械褔械 谐芯 蟹薪邪褟褌, 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褋邪 谐芯 褔械谢懈 薪褟泻褗写械 写褉褍谐邪写械 懈谢懈 褋械 械 锌芯褟胁懈谢芯 薪褟泻褗写械 锌褉械蟹 谐芯写懈薪懈褌械 泻邪褌芯 锌褉芯写褍泻褌 薪邪 褋芯斜褋褌胁械薪芯褌芯 懈屑 屑懈褋谢械薪械.
袨褋褌邪薪邪褏 褋 褍褋械褖邪薪械褌芯, 褔械 褔械褌邪 芯锌懈褋邪薪懈械 薪邪 蟹芯写懈邪泻邪谢薪懈褟 屑懈 蟹薪邪泻 鈥� 薪褟泻芯谢泻芯 胁械褉薪懈 薪械褖邪 懈 芯褖械 褌芯谢泻芯胁邪 写褉褍谐懈, 褋 泻芯懈褌芯 薪械 屑芯谐邪 锌芯 薪懈泻邪泻褗胁 薪邪褔懈薪 写邪 褋械 褋褗谐谢邪褋褟. 袗泻芯 锌褗泻 芯褌胁芯褉褟 写邪 褔械褌邪 蟹邪 薪褟泻芯褟 写褉褍谐邪 蟹芯写懈褟 鈥� 懈 褌邪屑 褋褗褖芯褌芯 鈥� 褉邪蟹锌芯蟹薪邪胁邪屑 褋械 胁 薪褟泻芯懈 芯锌懈褋邪薪懈褟, 写芯泻邪褌芯 胁 写褉褍谐懈 鈥� 薪械. 孝邪泻邪 懈 褋 泻邪褌械谐芯褉懈懈褌械 薪邪 袚懈 袣芯褉薪芯. 校卸 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈褔薪芯 褔械褌懈胁芯, 邪屑邪 薪械 褋褗胁褋械屑. 袩褗谢薪芯 褋 锌芯写褉芯斜薪懈 芯斜褟褋薪械薪懈褟 锌芯写 谢懈薪懈褟 薪邪 胁械褔械 写芯斜懈谢懈 褕懈褉芯泻邪 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉薪芯褋褌 褟胁谢械薪懈褟, 泻邪褌芯 薪邪锌褉. 邪褍褌懈蟹褗屑, 写懈褋谢械泻褋懈褟, 褌褉邪薪褋褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褋褌, 斜褗褉薪邪褍褌, 械屑锌邪褌懈褟 懈 写褉. 袨斜褟褋薪褟胁邪 薪懈 写芯褉懈 泻邪泻胁芯 械 鈥炑幮啃糕€� 懈 薪邪 泻芯谢泻芯 褋邪薪褌懈屑械褌褉邪 械 褉邪胁械薪 械写懈薪 懈薪褔! 袛芯泻邪褌芯 写褉褍谐懈 锌芯薪褟褌懈褟, 薪邪泄-胁械褔械 芯褌 褋锌械褑懈褎懈褔薪邪褌邪 褌械褉屑懈薪芯谢芯谐懈褟 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪褌邪, 芯褋褌邪胁邪褌 薪械懈蟹褟褋薪械薪懈. 袙 泻褉邪泄薪邪 褋屑械褌泻邪 蟹邪 泻芯谐芯 械 褌邪蟹懈 泻薪懈谐邪 鈥� 蟹邪 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢懈褋褌懈褌械 懈谢懈 蟹邪 锌芯-褕懈褉芯泻 泻褉褗谐 褔懈褌邪褌械谢懈? 袦邪泄 薪懈褌芯 褋褗胁褋械屑 蟹邪 械写薪懈褌械, 薪懈褌芯 褋褗胁褋械屑 蟹邪 写褉褍谐懈褌械. 小褌褉邪薪薪邪 褋懈屑斜懈芯蟹邪, 锌芯写芯斜薪邪 薪邪 屑邪泄褋褌芯褉褋泻懈褌械 泻谢邪褋芯胁械, 蟹邪 泻芯懈褌芯 薪懈 褋械 芯斜褟褋薪褟胁邪, 褔械 斜懈谢懈 泻邪泻褌芯 蟹邪 薪邪褔懈薪邪械褖懈, 褌邪泻邪 懈 蟹邪 薪邪锌褉械写薪邪谢懈, 褔械 写邪卸械 懈 蟹邪 锌褉芯褎械褋懈芯薪邪谢懈褋褌懈. 袣芯褉薪芯 蟹胁褍褔懈 泻邪褌芯 褋锌械褑懈邪谢懈褋褌, 泻芯泄褌芯 褋械 芯锌懈褌胁邪 写邪 薪械 褋械 芯褌锌褍褋泻邪 胁 写械斜褉懈褌械 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪褌邪, 蟹邪 写邪 薪械 懈蟹谐褍斜懈 锌芯-薪械蟹邪锌芯蟹薪邪褌懈褌械 褋懈 褋 褌邪蟹懈 芯斜谢邪褋褌 薪邪 薪邪褍泻邪褌邪 褔懈褌邪褌械谢懈. 袠谢懈 锌褗泻 芯斜褉邪褌薪芯褌芯 鈥� 泻邪褌芯 锌芯锌褍谢褟褉械薪 邪胁褌芯褉, 泻芯泄褌芯 胁泻邪褉胁邪 褌褍泻-褌邪屑 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪, 蟹邪 写邪 褋懈 锌褉懈写邪胁邪 胁邪卸薪芯褋褌. 袣薪懈谐邪褌邪 褋械 褔械褌械 谢械褋薪芯, 薪芯 泻邪褌芯 胁褗蟹写械泄褋褌胁懈械, 泻邪褌芯 褋懈谢邪 写邪 褍斜械卸写邪胁邪 胁 懈褋褌懈薪薪芯褋褌褌邪 薪邪 褌械蟹懈褌械 褋懈, 薪械 械 薪邪 薪械芯斜褏芯写懈屑芯褌芯 薪懈胁芯. 袦械薪 锌芯薪械 薪械 屑芯卸邪 写邪 屑械 褍斜械写懈.
袗泻芯 褌褉褟斜胁邪 写邪 褋械 褋懈屑锌谢懈褎懈褑懈褉邪 写芯 械写薪芯 械写懈薪褋褌胁械薪芯 懈蟹褉械褔械薪懈械: 鈥炐⌒感叫拘残笛傂�, 褔懈懈褌芯 斜邪褖懈 褋邪 斜懈谢懈 芯褌褋褗褋褌胁邪褖懈, 褋邪 锌褉械褑邪泻邪薪懈!鈥� 袗屑邪 薪懈械 褌芯胁邪 褋懈 谐芯 蟹薪邪械褏屑械 懈 芯褌 锌芯-褉邪薪芯, 锌褉械写懈 写邪 褋屑械 褔械谢懈 袣芯褉薪芯. 袙懈卸写邪谢懈 褋屑械 谐芯 屑薪芯谐芯 锌褗褌懈 胁 卸懈胁懈褟 卸懈胁芯褌 芯泻芯谢芯 褋械斜械 褋懈. 小褌褉械屑械卸褗褌 薪邪 袣芯褉薪芯 (屑邪泻邪褉 芯褔械胁懈写薪芯 褌芯胁邪 写邪 薪械 械 薪械谐芯胁芯 芯褌泻褉懈褌懈械 胁 锌褋懈褏芯谢芯谐懈褟褌邪) 械 写邪 薪懈 芯斜褟褋薪懈 蟹邪褖芯 褌芯褔薪芯 褋邪 锌褉械褑邪泻邪薪懈, 泻邪泻褌芯 懈 写邪 薪懈 写邪写械 薪褟泻邪泻褗胁 械胁械薪褌褍邪谢械薪 锌褗褌 蟹邪 褋邪屑芯谢械褔械薪懈械, 泻芯泄褌芯, 褉邪蟹斜懈褉邪 褋械, 薪懈泻芯谐邪 薪褟屑邪 写邪 褋械 褋谢褍褔懈 薪邪 锌褉邪泻褌懈泻邪. 袧邪锌褉邪蟹薪懈 褋邪 锌褉芯褋褌褉邪薪薪懈褌械 芯褌锌谢械褋胁邪薪懈褟 薪邪 邪胁褌芯褉邪 锌芯 谐褉褗褑泻邪褌邪 屑懈褌芯谢芯谐懈褟, 锌芯 褋褌芯泄薪芯褋褌褌邪 薪邪 褎械屑懈薪懈蟹屑邪, 褏芯屑芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢懈蟹屑邪 懈 谐褉懈卸邪褌邪 蟹邪 芯泻芯谢薪邪褌邪 褋褉械写邪. 袛芯褌芯谢泻芯胁邪, 褔械 胁 械写薪芯 懈薪褌械褉胁褞 薪邪 褎褉械薪褋泻懈 屑褍 蟹邪写邪胁邪褌 写懈褉械泻褌薪懈褟 胁褗锌褉芯褋 写邪谢懈 褌芯泄 褋邪屑懈褟褌 械 谐械泄. 袦邪谢泻芯 锌褉械泻邪谢械薪邪 屑懈 写芯泄写械 懈写械褟褌邪 蟹邪 锌褉械谐褉褗褖邪薪械褌芯 薪邪 褏芯屑芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褌芯 褍 屑褗卸邪 泻邪褌芯 蟹写褉邪胁芯褋谢芯胁薪邪 锌褉械褏芯写薪邪 褋褌褗锌泻邪 泻褗屑 褏械褌械褉芯褋械泻褋褍邪谢薪芯褋褌褌邪. 袧芯 褌芯胁邪 械 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈蟹邪, 胁褋械 锌邪泻 鈥� 胁 薪械褟 胁褋褟泻邪 懈写械褟, 泻芯谢泻芯褌芯 懈 褉邪写懈泻邪谢薪邪 写邪 械 褌褟, 械 褉邪蟹褉械褕械薪邪. 小褌褉褍胁邪 屑懈 褋械 芯斜邪褔械, 褔械 褌芯胁邪 械 锌芯褉械写薪邪褌邪 泻薪懈谐邪, 胁 泻芯褟褌芯 邪写褉械褋邪薪褌 懈 邪写褉械褋邪褌 褋械 褉邪蟹屑懈薪邪胁邪褌. 袛芯斜褉芯褌芯 卸械谢邪薪懈械 薪邪 袣芯褉薪芯 写邪 锌芯屑芯谐薪械 薪邪 胁褋懈褔泻懈 褌械蟹懈 芯斜褗褉泻邪薪懈 屑褗卸械 褖械 褍写邪褉懈 薪邪 泻邪屑褗泻, 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褌械 械写胁邪 谢懈 褖械 锌芯褋械谐薪邪褌 写邪 锌褉芯褔械褌邪褌 泻薪懈谐邪褌邪 屑褍. 些械 写芯泄写邪褌 胁 泻邪斜懈薪械褌邪 薪邪 锌褋懈褏芯邪薪邪谢懈褌懈泻邪, 械写胁邪 泻芯谐邪褌芯 薪械褖邪褌邪 褋邪 褋械 芯锌谢械谢懈 写芯 褋褌械锌械薪 薪邪 薪械锌芯锌褉邪胁懈屑芯褋褌, 泻邪泻褌芯 褍屑械褋褌薪芯 芯褌斜械谢褟蟹胁邪 褌芯胁邪 褋邪屑懈褟褌 邪胁褌芯褉. 袣芯谢械斜邪械褖懈褌械 褋械 (泻邪褌芯 屑械薪) 褖械 褟 锌褉芯褔械褌邪褌, 褋邪屑芯 蟹邪 写邪 芯褌泻褉懈褟褌, 褔械 褌芯胁邪 胁械褔械 谐芯 蟹薪邪褟褌, 蟹邪褖芯褌芯 褋邪 谐芯 褔械谢懈 薪褟泻褗写械 写褉褍谐邪写械 懈谢懈 褋械 械 锌芯褟胁懈谢芯 薪褟泻褗写械 锌褉械蟹 谐芯写懈薪懈褌械 泻邪褌芯 锌褉芯写褍泻褌 薪邪 褋芯斜褋褌胁械薪芯褌芯 懈屑 屑懈褋谢械薪械.
January 29, 2020
蹖讴 噩賲賱賴 丕夭 讴鬲丕亘 :
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賲乇丿丕賳 亘丕蹖丿 賲乇丿 卮賵賳丿.
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夭賳丕賳 禺賵丿 亘賴 禺賵丿 夭賳 賴爻鬲賳丿 貙
賲乇丿丕賳 亘丕蹖丿 賲乇丿 卮賵賳丿.
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诏丕蹖 讴丕乇賳賵
April 20, 2019
A book that helps to figure out some of the issues lurking in man's subconsciousness. It surely opened doors of alternative thinking over my past and present motives of behavior. The archetypes presented in Corneaus work are devised from Jung's Depth psychology. The stories are based on experience and observations of his patients and himself. One has to be careful to ascribe oneself traits and patterns that reflect in the stories. No person is a clear cut archetype, rather a compound of several characteristics. Whether it is the good guy, the pleaser, the bohemian, the warrior, ... those archetypes all stem from 2 basic needs successfully suppressed in modern men - intimacy and aggressivity. While scared, and uninitiated young boy strives to become a man it inevitably results in failure and substitutes - the addict, the seducer. Suppressed aggressivity, on the other hand, is a result of a lack of guidance and form in handling the man's vital force - the hero, the warrior.
In conclusion, G. Carneau urges fathers to be present in the lives of boys since early childhood, share intimacy from toddler age and initiate young boy into the world of men with transitional rituals (examples cited in the book).
Men know about those things, the problem is they don't talk about them!
In conclusion, G. Carneau urges fathers to be present in the lives of boys since early childhood, share intimacy from toddler age and initiate young boy into the world of men with transitional rituals (examples cited in the book).
Men know about those things, the problem is they don't talk about them!
May 15, 2018
This thing gives you something to ponder if you're into Jungian psychology. Although there's a lot of sweeping generalisations in here (much like with all Jungian/mythic interpretations of psychology), Absent Fathers, Lost Sons will most probably at least give you an alternative view or two to kickstart your thoughts into what might be amiss.
August 8, 2015
A fantastic and insightful book that every adult male should read. Offers great insights into the mind of masculinity: from "iron Hans" to qualities seen culturally as feminine. Male development, maturity, and relation to fathers is examined in the context of cultural norms. Highly recommended.
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May 10, 2020丕蹖賳 讴鬲丕亘 亘乇丕蹖 丕賮乇丕丿 噩賵丕賳蹖 讴賴 丕乇鬲亘丕胤 讴賲 乇賳诏蹖 亘丕 倬丿乇卮賵賳 丿丕乇賳丿 毓丕賱蹖 賴爻鬲
賵 蹖丕 亘乇丕蹖 丕賮乇丕丿蹖 讴賴 丿賳亘丕賱 賴賵蹖鬲 賲乇丿丕賳賴 賲蹖 诏乇丿賳賳丿 乇丕賴賳賲丕蹖 禺賵亘蹖 賴爻鬲
賵 蹖丕 亘乇丕蹖 丕賮乇丕丿蹖 讴賴 丿賳亘丕賱 賴賵蹖鬲 賲乇丿丕賳賴 賲蹖 诏乇丿賳賳丿 乇丕賴賳賲丕蹖 禺賵亘蹖 賴爻鬲
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November 14, 2022Een boek van de jungiaanse psycho-analyticus Guy Corneau over de invloed van de afwezigheid van vaders op de ontwikkeling van hun zonen. 'Afwezige vaders' dient ruim ge茂nterpreteerd te worden. Ze kunnen (zoals bij mij) letterlijk afwezig zijn geweest tijdens de opvoeding van het kind (door dood, klootzakkerigheid, of ruzie met de andere ouder) of figuurlijk afwezig.
Vooral dat laatste is volgens Corneau een probleem van onze tijd. Sinds de industri毛le revolutie zijn vaders zich veel minder met hun kinderen gaan bemoeien, zijn ze gevlucht in werk, caf茅s, of media zoals de tv. Vaders zijn passiever geworden en staan verder af van hun lichamelijkheid.
Onze vaders vluchtten naar de bossen, de caf茅s of hun werk. Ze zochten toevlucht bij hun auto's, kranten en televisieprogramma's. Vaak verkozen ze te ontsnappen naar een abstracte, kunstmatige wereld, een wereld die losstond van de werkelijkheid, van de alledaagse ervaringen, van hun eigen lichaam. (...) Er lijkt een scheefgroei te zijn binnengeslopen tussen de aangeboren behoeften van zoons en het gedrag van tegenwoordige vaders, die deerniswekkende figuren lijken, slachtoffers van een lot waarover ze niets te zeggen hebben.
Vooral voor zonen heeft dat catastrofale gevolgen, heeft Corneau ondervonden wanneer hij naar het pati毛ntenbestand van zijn praktijk kijkt. Zijn conclusie is eigenlijk dat een zoon niet zonder vader kan. Hij heeft hem nodig om ge茂nitieerd te worden in de wereld van de man. Gebeurt dit niet, dan lukt het de zonen niet om volwassen te worden, in de zin van een autonome, onafhankelijke man. Ze hebben dikwijls afkeer van hun mannelijke eigenschappen. Ze onderdrukken die, en wat onderdrukt wordt komt altijd boven op een slechtere plek. De gevolgen zijn zeer uiteenlopend en per individu verschillend: van passiviteit tot ongecontroleerde agressiviteit tot vrouwenhaat tot bindingsangst en intimiteitsproblemen. Ook met de moeder raakt de relatie meestal helemaal verknipt, doordat zij man en vrouw ineen moet zijn en de zoon haar als godin of duivelin gaat zien. Van haar loskomen is een pijnlijke en loodzware taak, die de zoon wel moet volbrengen om, wederom, een autonome man te worden.
Ik ben op het spoor gekomen van dit boek door Dennis Wiersma, minister van Primair en Voortgezet Onderwijs. Hij vertelde in het (meestal) fantastische interviewprogramma van 脰zcan Akyol, De geknipte gast, dat hij alleen door zijn moeder is opgevoed. Afwezige vaders, verloren zonen heeft hem veel gebracht, vertelde hij. Ik kan goed begrijpen wat Wiersma bedoelt, al had ik tijdens het lezen vooral het gevoel dat Corneau mij heel veel ontnam. Namelijk illusies over mijzelf, mijn relaties en dat ik het best aardig voor elkaar had. Een boek dat aanzet tot zelfreflectie en mij in ieder geval heeft doen realiseren dat ik een paar stevige knopen heb door te hakken om niet ongelukkig en ineengestort in de stoel te eindigen tegenover de moderne Corneau.
Een existentieel weekend achter de rug en er zullen er nog vele volgen door dit ontwrichtende boek. Ik heb aan de hand ervan al meteen voor het eerst in tijden ruzie gemaakt. Glorieus het onderspit gedolven, dat wel, maar het begin is er.
Vooral dat laatste is volgens Corneau een probleem van onze tijd. Sinds de industri毛le revolutie zijn vaders zich veel minder met hun kinderen gaan bemoeien, zijn ze gevlucht in werk, caf茅s, of media zoals de tv. Vaders zijn passiever geworden en staan verder af van hun lichamelijkheid.
Onze vaders vluchtten naar de bossen, de caf茅s of hun werk. Ze zochten toevlucht bij hun auto's, kranten en televisieprogramma's. Vaak verkozen ze te ontsnappen naar een abstracte, kunstmatige wereld, een wereld die losstond van de werkelijkheid, van de alledaagse ervaringen, van hun eigen lichaam. (...) Er lijkt een scheefgroei te zijn binnengeslopen tussen de aangeboren behoeften van zoons en het gedrag van tegenwoordige vaders, die deerniswekkende figuren lijken, slachtoffers van een lot waarover ze niets te zeggen hebben.
Vooral voor zonen heeft dat catastrofale gevolgen, heeft Corneau ondervonden wanneer hij naar het pati毛ntenbestand van zijn praktijk kijkt. Zijn conclusie is eigenlijk dat een zoon niet zonder vader kan. Hij heeft hem nodig om ge茂nitieerd te worden in de wereld van de man. Gebeurt dit niet, dan lukt het de zonen niet om volwassen te worden, in de zin van een autonome, onafhankelijke man. Ze hebben dikwijls afkeer van hun mannelijke eigenschappen. Ze onderdrukken die, en wat onderdrukt wordt komt altijd boven op een slechtere plek. De gevolgen zijn zeer uiteenlopend en per individu verschillend: van passiviteit tot ongecontroleerde agressiviteit tot vrouwenhaat tot bindingsangst en intimiteitsproblemen. Ook met de moeder raakt de relatie meestal helemaal verknipt, doordat zij man en vrouw ineen moet zijn en de zoon haar als godin of duivelin gaat zien. Van haar loskomen is een pijnlijke en loodzware taak, die de zoon wel moet volbrengen om, wederom, een autonome man te worden.
Ik ben op het spoor gekomen van dit boek door Dennis Wiersma, minister van Primair en Voortgezet Onderwijs. Hij vertelde in het (meestal) fantastische interviewprogramma van 脰zcan Akyol, De geknipte gast, dat hij alleen door zijn moeder is opgevoed. Afwezige vaders, verloren zonen heeft hem veel gebracht, vertelde hij. Ik kan goed begrijpen wat Wiersma bedoelt, al had ik tijdens het lezen vooral het gevoel dat Corneau mij heel veel ontnam. Namelijk illusies over mijzelf, mijn relaties en dat ik het best aardig voor elkaar had. Een boek dat aanzet tot zelfreflectie en mij in ieder geval heeft doen realiseren dat ik een paar stevige knopen heb door te hakken om niet ongelukkig en ineengestort in de stoel te eindigen tegenover de moderne Corneau.
Een existentieel weekend achter de rug en er zullen er nog vele volgen door dit ontwrichtende boek. Ik heb aan de hand ervan al meteen voor het eerst in tijden ruzie gemaakt. Glorieus het onderspit gedolven, dat wel, maar het begin is er.
November 1, 2019
賲乇丿丕賳 賳亘丕蹖丿 禺蹖賱蹖 亘賴 賮讴乇 賮鬲丨 讴乇賴 蹖 賲丕賴 蹖丕 賮賳丕賵乇蹖 賴丕蹖 噩丿蹖丿 亘丕卮賳丿. 趩丕賱卮 賵丕賯毓蹖 賲乇丿丕賳 蹖丕賮鬲賳 丕乇鬲亘丕胤蹖 噩丿蹖丿 亘丕 夭賳丿诏蹖 丕爻鬲. 丿乇 丕蹖賳 丕乇鬲亘丕胤 丕乇夭卮 賴丕蹖蹖 讴賴 亘賴 卮讴賱 爻賳鬲蹖 夭賳丕賳賴 鬲賱賯蹖 卮丿賴 丕賳丿貙 丿賵亘丕乇賴 丿乇 賲乇丿丕賳 亘賴 卮讴賱 丕乇夭卮 賴丕蹖蹖 賲賴賲 夭賳丿賴 賲蹖 卮賵賳丿.
July 11, 2024
Excellent, hormis quelques petits commentaires sur la religion que je crois erron茅s (ils sont tout de fois secondaires 脿 l'argumentation). Le livre m'appara卯t comme 茅tant encore plus d'actualit茅 - et donc important - que lorsqu'il a 茅t茅 publi茅 originalement, au d茅but des ann茅es 90.
January 29, 2024
袣薪懈谐邪-写芯褋谢褨写卸械薪薪褟 锌懈褌邪薪薪褟 胁褨写褋褍褌薪褜芯谐芯 斜邪褌褜泻邪 (褎褨蟹懈褔薪芯 邪斜芯 薪械 胁懈泻芯薪褍胁邪胁褕械谐芯 褋胁芯褞 褉芯谢褜) 褨 褌懈褏 锌褉芯斜谢械屑 蟹 褟泻懈屑懈 褋褌懈泻邪褞褌褜褋褟 褋懈薪懈 褌邪泻懈褏 斜邪褌褜泻褨胁 锌褨写褨泄屑邪褦 锌懈褌邪薪薪褟 褋褌邪薪芯胁谢械薪薪褟 蟹写芯褉芯胁芯褩 屑邪褋泻褍谢褨薪薪芯褋褌褨, 锌褉芯褑械褋邪 褨薪褨褑褨邪褑褨褩, 邪 褌邪泻芯卸 褍褌褉懈屑邪薪薪褟 邪谐褉械褋懈胁薪芯褋褌褨. 袪械泻芯屑械薪写褍褞 褔芯谢芯胁褨泻邪屑, 胁 褟泻懈褏 薪械 斜褍谢芯 斜谢懈蟹褜泻懈褏 锌褨写褌褉懈屑褍褞褔懈褏 胁褨写薪芯褋懈薪 蟹 斜邪褌褜泻芯屑. 袧邪卸邪谢褜 薪械屑邪褦 锌械褉械泻谢邪写褍, 褌芯卸 写芯胁械写械褌褜褋褟 褔懈褌邪褌懈 邪薪谐谢褨泄褋褜泻芯褞
October 20, 2020
賲賱睾賲賴鈥屫й� 丕夭 賳賲丕丿貙 讴賴賳 丕賱诏賵貙 蹖賵賳诏貙 丕爻胤賵乇賴鈥屬囏� 賵 乇賵蹖丕
September 9, 2024
Father: Symbol of the Old World
Son: Symbol of the New World
In every family, there is a shared experience of occasional foolishness. Sometimes, fathers retreat into the depths of their own selves, existing but absent. Their absence casts a shadow over their sons, who become lost in its darkness. The father鈥檚 disappearance mirrors the sons vanishing.
The son once fashioned a father from the sky, but his silence hindered his growth. The boy's identity remained hostage to his quietude. Without a mirror to reflect maturity, he remained perpetually a boy.
The forever boy imitates womanhood, yet he never fully transitions. He clings to the anima, never crossing into manhood. The father, like a guiding stick, should attach to the boy, providing safety, self-esteem, and confidence. But when the father is absent, the boy stands alone, lacking self-awareness.
Traditionally, ancient tribes facilitated the boy鈥檚 transformation into a man. Women inherently understand life, but boys need guidance. Life and womanhood are intertwined, yet men must be introduced to life.
--- The Crucial Role of Fathers: Navigating Tradition and Imagination
In our society, we often overlook the importance of allowing girls to grow independently while providing guidance and support to boys. Our world is replete with lost sons, and we鈥檝e forgotten the ancient traditions that once guided them.
Facing a father is pivotal for a son鈥檚 journey toward manhood. Two distinct fathers await him:
Biological Father: The one he shares blood with.
Main Traditional Form and Pattern of Father: This archetype, imprinted even before birth, awakens when fundamental conditions align.
But what is this traditional form and pattern? Imagine the hatch of a turtle egg鈥攖he first move toward the sea. Or consider a newly hatched chick, its first sight forever imprinted as 鈥渕om.鈥� These archetypes reside within us, activated by life鈥檚 prerequisites.
For a boy, knowing his mother is innate, but the father remains complex鈥攁 post-birth encounter. The father embodies conditional love, reigning over the boy鈥檚 world.
Yet, a gap exists between the real father鈥檚 need (the traditional form) and the current father. This gap births challenges:
Perfectionism: The son strives to compensate, imagining the absent father more powerful than reality.
Self-Hate: The void fuels self-loathing.
Lack of Confidence: Without a father鈥檚 presence, confidence wanes.
Imagination can deceive. Why the shame and complexity in conversations between father and son? Our assumptions elevate the father to godlike status, a celestial figure. But we must discern real fatherhood from our illusions.
Touch鈥攖he bridge between father and son鈥攈olds significance. Deprivation from this touch echoes the traditional form. An ideal father isn鈥檛 merely successful; he鈥檚 connected to life itself.
Here lies your challenge: bridging the distance between you and your children, shaped by the traditional form. Break free from the godlike image; instead, offer unconditional love. Only a connected father can truly connect a child to life.
Parents aren鈥檛 holy beings; they鈥檙e human. Reject the false holism that complicates life. Unlock your child鈥檚 potential by being a simple, present father鈥攏ot a deity or Hercules.
---The Lost Sons: Navigating Shadows and Struggles
P: The Hero鈥檚 Burden
A young boy, shaped by his home environment, unwittingly becomes a hero. But even if he achieves great heights, he carries a heavy burden. His father鈥檚 unattained goals haunt him. Sacrificing himself, he officially kills his own needs. The successful societal hero suffers silently, plagued by imposter syndrome. Doubt gnaws at his merit, fearing that others will discover his emptiness. Perfectionism knows no bounds; he fears losing his talents and power.
S: The Unpredictable Mr. S
Mr. S鈥檚 father lacked predictability, leaving him uncertain. Seeking niceness, he avoided upsetting anyone鈥攈is greatest sin. Sleep eluded him after causing annoyance. Within his subconscious, hidden anger simmers. His inner father reminds him of sins, perpetuating guilt. Trapped, he can鈥檛 release this anger. Half of himself lies buried, echoing the Persian saying: 鈥淚n our midst, there exist individuals devoid of emotion and feeling. They traverse life in this state, deliberately avoiding harm to others.鈥�
R: The Forever Young Boy
Fear grips the forever young boy. He hesitates to act on his ideas, fearing commitment and loss of freedom. Unused creativity traps him between 鈥渘ot yet鈥� and 鈥渘ot anymore.鈥� He dreads growing old, unable to find maturity. His mother compensates for his father鈥檚 absence, but he fears losing his childhood spark. 鈥淒ar Aghaz Amal Bood鈥濃€攊n the beginning, there was action.
A: The Intimacy Pretender
A seeks his mother in every woman. Intimacy eludes him; he intentionally stifles feelings. Defeated in love, he pretends intimacy while depriving himself of deep connections. He leaves before others can leave him.
N: The Scared Observer
Realizing he鈥檚 different from his mother, N fears women. Here, the father鈥檚 role is crucial. By observing his father鈥檚 interactions with women, a boy learns. Only a guided boy faces women without fear. N accepts defeat, supporting women superficially due to his father鈥檚 absence. Weakened, he lacks depth.
G: The Center of Attention
G craves the spotlight, living as an object at the center. His parents never accepted him as valuable. Why did narcissus gaze at his reflection so intently? Doubt drove him to stare into a vacuum. He sees only himself through others鈥� eyes, striving to be wonderful and important. Whether compensating for childhood rejection or fearing loneliness, he鈥檒l do anything to fit the mold.
M: The Fiery Fighter
Always angry, M seeks conflict and forbidden acts. Regret follows each outburst. Deep anger toward his absent father drives him. He flees from this anger, fearing weakness. But he must confront it鈥攈is weakness stems from this very fear.
Sh: The Sufferer of Meaninglessness
Sh contemplates his father鈥檚 absence, seeing emptiness in the world. Fear prevents him from looking too closely. Yet, within this void, he finds a quiet peace. His suffering surpasses all; emptiness isn鈥檛 the end but the beginning. In winter鈥檚 depths, he discovers warmth within.
D: The Fear of Pain
D avoids pain at all costs. But he must learn: no pain, no gain.
H: The Composite
H embodies aspects of them all. Fear drives him鈥攆ear of life, perhaps even working for death.
Son: Symbol of the New World
In every family, there is a shared experience of occasional foolishness. Sometimes, fathers retreat into the depths of their own selves, existing but absent. Their absence casts a shadow over their sons, who become lost in its darkness. The father鈥檚 disappearance mirrors the sons vanishing.
The son once fashioned a father from the sky, but his silence hindered his growth. The boy's identity remained hostage to his quietude. Without a mirror to reflect maturity, he remained perpetually a boy.
The forever boy imitates womanhood, yet he never fully transitions. He clings to the anima, never crossing into manhood. The father, like a guiding stick, should attach to the boy, providing safety, self-esteem, and confidence. But when the father is absent, the boy stands alone, lacking self-awareness.
Traditionally, ancient tribes facilitated the boy鈥檚 transformation into a man. Women inherently understand life, but boys need guidance. Life and womanhood are intertwined, yet men must be introduced to life.
--- The Crucial Role of Fathers: Navigating Tradition and Imagination
In our society, we often overlook the importance of allowing girls to grow independently while providing guidance and support to boys. Our world is replete with lost sons, and we鈥檝e forgotten the ancient traditions that once guided them.
Facing a father is pivotal for a son鈥檚 journey toward manhood. Two distinct fathers await him:
Biological Father: The one he shares blood with.
Main Traditional Form and Pattern of Father: This archetype, imprinted even before birth, awakens when fundamental conditions align.
But what is this traditional form and pattern? Imagine the hatch of a turtle egg鈥攖he first move toward the sea. Or consider a newly hatched chick, its first sight forever imprinted as 鈥渕om.鈥� These archetypes reside within us, activated by life鈥檚 prerequisites.
For a boy, knowing his mother is innate, but the father remains complex鈥攁 post-birth encounter. The father embodies conditional love, reigning over the boy鈥檚 world.
Yet, a gap exists between the real father鈥檚 need (the traditional form) and the current father. This gap births challenges:
Perfectionism: The son strives to compensate, imagining the absent father more powerful than reality.
Self-Hate: The void fuels self-loathing.
Lack of Confidence: Without a father鈥檚 presence, confidence wanes.
Imagination can deceive. Why the shame and complexity in conversations between father and son? Our assumptions elevate the father to godlike status, a celestial figure. But we must discern real fatherhood from our illusions.
Touch鈥攖he bridge between father and son鈥攈olds significance. Deprivation from this touch echoes the traditional form. An ideal father isn鈥檛 merely successful; he鈥檚 connected to life itself.
Here lies your challenge: bridging the distance between you and your children, shaped by the traditional form. Break free from the godlike image; instead, offer unconditional love. Only a connected father can truly connect a child to life.
Parents aren鈥檛 holy beings; they鈥檙e human. Reject the false holism that complicates life. Unlock your child鈥檚 potential by being a simple, present father鈥攏ot a deity or Hercules.
---The Lost Sons: Navigating Shadows and Struggles
P: The Hero鈥檚 Burden
A young boy, shaped by his home environment, unwittingly becomes a hero. But even if he achieves great heights, he carries a heavy burden. His father鈥檚 unattained goals haunt him. Sacrificing himself, he officially kills his own needs. The successful societal hero suffers silently, plagued by imposter syndrome. Doubt gnaws at his merit, fearing that others will discover his emptiness. Perfectionism knows no bounds; he fears losing his talents and power.
S: The Unpredictable Mr. S
Mr. S鈥檚 father lacked predictability, leaving him uncertain. Seeking niceness, he avoided upsetting anyone鈥攈is greatest sin. Sleep eluded him after causing annoyance. Within his subconscious, hidden anger simmers. His inner father reminds him of sins, perpetuating guilt. Trapped, he can鈥檛 release this anger. Half of himself lies buried, echoing the Persian saying: 鈥淚n our midst, there exist individuals devoid of emotion and feeling. They traverse life in this state, deliberately avoiding harm to others.鈥�
R: The Forever Young Boy
Fear grips the forever young boy. He hesitates to act on his ideas, fearing commitment and loss of freedom. Unused creativity traps him between 鈥渘ot yet鈥� and 鈥渘ot anymore.鈥� He dreads growing old, unable to find maturity. His mother compensates for his father鈥檚 absence, but he fears losing his childhood spark. 鈥淒ar Aghaz Amal Bood鈥濃€攊n the beginning, there was action.
A: The Intimacy Pretender
A seeks his mother in every woman. Intimacy eludes him; he intentionally stifles feelings. Defeated in love, he pretends intimacy while depriving himself of deep connections. He leaves before others can leave him.
N: The Scared Observer
Realizing he鈥檚 different from his mother, N fears women. Here, the father鈥檚 role is crucial. By observing his father鈥檚 interactions with women, a boy learns. Only a guided boy faces women without fear. N accepts defeat, supporting women superficially due to his father鈥檚 absence. Weakened, he lacks depth.
G: The Center of Attention
G craves the spotlight, living as an object at the center. His parents never accepted him as valuable. Why did narcissus gaze at his reflection so intently? Doubt drove him to stare into a vacuum. He sees only himself through others鈥� eyes, striving to be wonderful and important. Whether compensating for childhood rejection or fearing loneliness, he鈥檒l do anything to fit the mold.
M: The Fiery Fighter
Always angry, M seeks conflict and forbidden acts. Regret follows each outburst. Deep anger toward his absent father drives him. He flees from this anger, fearing weakness. But he must confront it鈥攈is weakness stems from this very fear.
Sh: The Sufferer of Meaninglessness
Sh contemplates his father鈥檚 absence, seeing emptiness in the world. Fear prevents him from looking too closely. Yet, within this void, he finds a quiet peace. His suffering surpasses all; emptiness isn鈥檛 the end but the beginning. In winter鈥檚 depths, he discovers warmth within.
D: The Fear of Pain
D avoids pain at all costs. But he must learn: no pain, no gain.
H: The Composite
H embodies aspects of them all. Fear drives him鈥攆ear of life, perhaps even working for death.
November 2, 2024
Dlho som si kl谩dol ot谩zku kde presne s煤 hranice dospelosti. Konzultoval som to so zn谩mymi aj rodinou a odpovede, ktor茅 som dost谩val boli 膷astokr谩t ve木mi nes煤rod茅 a rozpa膷it茅 (odchod z domu, vstup do man啪elstva, prv谩 v媒plata, ukon膷enie vzdelania, rodi膷ovstvo, prv谩 pr谩ca, a pod.), 膷o v么bec nepom谩halo da钮 tejto problematike nejak媒 jasn媒 r谩mec. Potom som si pre膷铆tal Why Grow Up? od S.Neiman a Co d臎l谩 z chlapc暖 mu啪e od B. Stephensona a dospelos钮 zrazu za膷ala nadob煤da钮 jasnej拧ie kont煤ry.
S.Nieman na拧la k木煤膷 k dospelosti v schopnosti nau膷i钮 sa 啪i钮 s谩m so sebou v nedokonalom svete a n谩sledne h木ada钮 zmyslupnos钮 s druh媒mi a v druh媒ch. B.Stephensona je o 膷osi konkr茅tnej拧铆 (zameriava sa toti啪 na mu啪sk煤 popul谩ciu) a navrhuje n谩vrat k fenom茅n d谩vnych inicia膷n媒ch ritu谩lov, ktor茅 v minulosti pomahali adolescentom jasne prec铆ti钮 prechod/prerod z detstva do dospelosti.
No a na tejto ceste za h木adan铆m hran铆c dospelosti sa mi teraz dostala na st么l kniha Chyb臎j铆c铆 otec, chybuj铆c铆 syn, v ktorej Guy Corneau do istej miery d谩va za pravdu Stephensonovej potrebe inicia膷n媒ch ritu谩lov, ktor茅 v modernej spolo膷nosti takmer 煤plne vymizli. Z谩rove艌 v拧ak podobne ako S.Nieman dod谩va, 啪e na to, aby sme mohli dostiahnu钮 dospelos钮 potrebujeme najprv spozna钮 sami seba. Corneau v拧ak dod谩va, 啪e tu cesta nekon膷铆. 膸al拧铆m horizontom na ceste za dospelos钮ou je odpusti钮 na拧im rodi膷om za to, 啪e boli len 木udia. 慕udia nedokonal铆 a chybuj煤ci.
Tu obzvl谩拧钮 oce艌ujem ako Corneau zd么raz艌uje potrebu preklen煤钮 ml膷anie. Ml膷anie rodi膷ov pred de钮mi. Ml膷anie partnerov vo vz钮ahu. Ml膷anie jednotlivca vzh木adom k jeho vn煤torn媒m potreb谩m a obav谩m. Guy Corneau teda prin谩拧a na st么l potrebu citliv媒ch rozhovorov. Rozhovorov o individu谩lnej a rodinnej minulosti, o vlastnej zranite木nosti ako aj o (ne)naplnen媒ch t煤啪bach a 啪ivotn媒ch cie木och.
T谩to kniha teda prin谩拧a ve木mi hodnotn媒 pr铆spevok do debaty o hraniciach dospelosti a svie啪u perspekt铆vu, ktor谩 dotv谩ra celkov媒 obraz o ceste k dospel茅mu 木udsk茅mu pre啪铆vaniu. Rozhodne odpor煤膷am (v拧etky tri knihy)!
S.Nieman na拧la k木煤膷 k dospelosti v schopnosti nau膷i钮 sa 啪i钮 s谩m so sebou v nedokonalom svete a n谩sledne h木ada钮 zmyslupnos钮 s druh媒mi a v druh媒ch. B.Stephensona je o 膷osi konkr茅tnej拧铆 (zameriava sa toti啪 na mu啪sk煤 popul谩ciu) a navrhuje n谩vrat k fenom茅n d谩vnych inicia膷n媒ch ritu谩lov, ktor茅 v minulosti pomahali adolescentom jasne prec铆ti钮 prechod/prerod z detstva do dospelosti.
No a na tejto ceste za h木adan铆m hran铆c dospelosti sa mi teraz dostala na st么l kniha Chyb臎j铆c铆 otec, chybuj铆c铆 syn, v ktorej Guy Corneau do istej miery d谩va za pravdu Stephensonovej potrebe inicia膷n媒ch ritu谩lov, ktor茅 v modernej spolo膷nosti takmer 煤plne vymizli. Z谩rove艌 v拧ak podobne ako S.Nieman dod谩va, 啪e na to, aby sme mohli dostiahnu钮 dospelos钮 potrebujeme najprv spozna钮 sami seba. Corneau v拧ak dod谩va, 啪e tu cesta nekon膷铆. 膸al拧铆m horizontom na ceste za dospelos钮ou je odpusti钮 na拧im rodi膷om za to, 啪e boli len 木udia. 慕udia nedokonal铆 a chybuj煤ci.
Tu obzvl谩拧钮 oce艌ujem ako Corneau zd么raz艌uje potrebu preklen煤钮 ml膷anie. Ml膷anie rodi膷ov pred de钮mi. Ml膷anie partnerov vo vz钮ahu. Ml膷anie jednotlivca vzh木adom k jeho vn煤torn媒m potreb谩m a obav谩m. Guy Corneau teda prin谩拧a na st么l potrebu citliv媒ch rozhovorov. Rozhovorov o individu谩lnej a rodinnej minulosti, o vlastnej zranite木nosti ako aj o (ne)naplnen媒ch t煤啪bach a 啪ivotn媒ch cie木och.
T谩to kniha teda prin谩拧a ve木mi hodnotn媒 pr铆spevok do debaty o hraniciach dospelosti a svie啪u perspekt铆vu, ktor谩 dotv谩ra celkov媒 obraz o ceste k dospel茅mu 木udsk茅mu pre啪铆vaniu. Rozhodne odpor煤膷am (v拧etky tri knihy)!
November 26, 2022
I found out about this book in the bibliography of Bob Boothroyd鈥檚 鈥淲arrior, Magician, Lover, King鈥�. I gave it a quick read (a couple of hours), skipped the stories and went directly to the author's concepts and reflections. Based on Jung's ideas he elaborates some interesting points about our identity as men. He describes key concepts on masculinity (for example how it is usually defined in negative terms: 鈥渋t is not to cry鈥�, etc.), what it implies growing up as a man, the rite of passage from boy to men and the silent father (the generation before the baby boomers is called -not out of casualty- the silent generation). The section 鈥淭he theater of virility鈥� present ten archetypes that I was able to match with different types of men I know and enabled me to understand better their behavior (eg. the whys of the obsession with achievement, the eternal youth -he introduces a polemic reading on Antoine de Saint-Exupery鈥檚 鈥淭he little prince鈥�- and how adults can remain creative).
In summary, this is a book for men above sixty years old to learn more about themselves and try to escape from their generation's silence trap. But also for their sons and grandsons, for helping them try to understand their fathers and grandfathers in order to build a healthier relationship with them and with themselves.
In summary, this is a book for men above sixty years old to learn more about themselves and try to escape from their generation's silence trap. But also for their sons and grandsons, for helping them try to understand their fathers and grandfathers in order to build a healthier relationship with them and with themselves.
August 8, 2022
Ik vond dit boek toch wel echt heel goed.
Alhoewel het redelijk gedateerd is blijven de thema's zo goed als tijdsloos.
Met Jungiaanse en Freudiaanse invalshoeken zet Guy Corneau een gevoelig en doortastend betoog neer over man-zijn en man-wording.
Ik ben heel erg over dit boek te spreken, en resoneer met veel van wat hij schrijft.
Het is geen perfect boek, maar het is gewoon echt een ontzettend go茅d boek.
Robert Bly's Iron John blijft de oer-klassieker, maar deze staat nu ook bij mij op de must-read lijst voor mannen.
Aanrader.
PS: ik heb deze uit een kringloopwinkel geplukt, en voorin staat dit:
"Lieve Bink,
Van harte gefeliciteerd met je 18e verjaardag. Wat een leeftijd alweer!
Voor jou dit boek over man zijn. In veel culturen zijn er rituelen om de overgang van jongen naar man in te wijden.
In onze maatschappij kennen we dit niet meer. In mijn eigen zoektocht naar autonomie heeft dit boek mij ge茂nspireerd.
Misschien dat jij er ook wat aan hebt.
Heel veel liefs en geluk het komende levensjaar toegewenst!
Je Vader
Alhoewel het redelijk gedateerd is blijven de thema's zo goed als tijdsloos.
Met Jungiaanse en Freudiaanse invalshoeken zet Guy Corneau een gevoelig en doortastend betoog neer over man-zijn en man-wording.
Ik ben heel erg over dit boek te spreken, en resoneer met veel van wat hij schrijft.
Het is geen perfect boek, maar het is gewoon echt een ontzettend go茅d boek.
Robert Bly's Iron John blijft de oer-klassieker, maar deze staat nu ook bij mij op de must-read lijst voor mannen.
Aanrader.
PS: ik heb deze uit een kringloopwinkel geplukt, en voorin staat dit:
"Lieve Bink,
Van harte gefeliciteerd met je 18e verjaardag. Wat een leeftijd alweer!
Voor jou dit boek over man zijn. In veel culturen zijn er rituelen om de overgang van jongen naar man in te wijden.
In onze maatschappij kennen we dit niet meer. In mijn eigen zoektocht naar autonomie heeft dit boek mij ge茂nspireerd.
Misschien dat jij er ook wat aan hebt.
Heel veel liefs en geluk het komende levensjaar toegewenst!
Je Vader
April 18, 2023
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February 10, 2024
Het openstaan voor het lijden dat het opgeven van de illusie van volmaakte verzorging en de ideale vader meebrengt, stelt een man in staat het gat dat zijn ontbrekende vader heeft achtergelaten, op te vullen met zijn eigen aanwezigheid. Met eigen normen en idealen.
Mannen die hun vaders ontbeerden staan voor de uitdaging zelf de vaders te worden die ze misten.
De innerlijke leegte die de vaders die wij moesten missen achterlieten, biedt ons juist de gelegenheid een man te worden 鈥� op voorwaarde dat we stoppen met ons eeuwige geklaag en onszelf de aandacht en zorg geven die we nooit kregen van onze vaders.
Mannen die hun vaders ontbeerden staan voor de uitdaging zelf de vaders te worden die ze misten.
De innerlijke leegte die de vaders die wij moesten missen achterlieten, biedt ons juist de gelegenheid een man te worden 鈥� op voorwaarde dat we stoppen met ons eeuwige geklaag en onszelf de aandacht en zorg geven die we nooit kregen van onze vaders.
September 6, 2021
*Very* far from my usual reading choices, but an undeniable emotional revelation. There's probably some early 1990s junk in here that might not be so OK for a therapist in 2021, and the Jung-ness of it all can sometimes be a bit much, but the underlying theories are frustratingly sound -- at least in reflecting them against my own experiences. An angry, sad shoutout to my own absent father who, 30 years ago or so, unknowingly put me on course for this book, and probably lots more like it in the future.
January 27, 2025
Guy Corneau's Missing Fathers, Lost Sons is a deeply moving exploration of the pain caused by absent fathers. It's a must-read for anyone dealing with the wounds left by a missing father figure. Corneau blends personal stories with professional insights, making the book both relatable and informative. His compassionate approach offers practical advice for healing and moving forward. If you're looking for a book that genuinely understands the emotional scars and offers a path to recovery, this is it.
April 12, 2021
A combination of other books like HE by Robert A Johnson and Iron John by Robert Bly but his personal experience as an Analyst with clients is a great addition. I like the analogies of Greek myth, if you do not like symbolic or mythological thinking then you should not read this. Of course, he has his own shadow, he talks about it openly. That makes it less Freudian as some reviewed here. He is approachable, relatable. I liked this book a lot.
September 15, 2022
Actual rating 1.5 stars
Read this for a term paper and oh boy was it a doozy. Aside from some outdated and sometimes contradictory statements on a variety of subjects, the longer the book went on the more it devolved into a strange mix of greek mythology, overarching social theory, and psychology in only the broadest of senses. The chapter on Absent Fathers was literally the only one with a few solid points and interesting quotes.
Read this for a term paper and oh boy was it a doozy. Aside from some outdated and sometimes contradictory statements on a variety of subjects, the longer the book went on the more it devolved into a strange mix of greek mythology, overarching social theory, and psychology in only the broadest of senses. The chapter on Absent Fathers was literally the only one with a few solid points and interesting quotes.
February 23, 2025
having a strained relationship with my father, this book made me cry several times. there were a few times where i had to take a break in order to analyze what i have read. this book caught my attention pretty random and it was the best random book i have ever chosen. it made me realize some behaviors i have have a source and they haven鈥檛 spawned in my head. this book helped me realize more that i don鈥檛 want to be like my father when i will have a child.
January 19, 2020
Honestly a bit perplexed on the point. I hoped to get some Jungian perspective on the current issues men face, but instead I got a significantly higher degree of Freudian theory and the overall message was 鈥渋f you got issues, say I got issues and you got no issues鈥�.
Anyone looking for Jungian explanations of phenomena - that鈥檚 not the book.
Anyone looking for Jungian explanations of phenomena - that鈥檚 not the book.
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