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Dreams
Extracted from Volumes 4, 8, 12, and 16. Includes "The Analysis of Dreams," 'On the Significance of Number Dreams," "General Aspects of Dream Psychology," "On the Nature of Dreams," "Individual Dream Symbolism in Relation to Alchemy," and "The Practical Use of Dream-Analysis."
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First published January 1, 1974
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C.G. Jung
1,770books10.6kfollowersCarl Gustav Jung (/jʊŋ/; German: [ˈkarl ˈɡʊstaf jʊŋ]), often referred to as C. G. Jung, was a Swiss psychiatrist and psychotherapist who founded analytical psychology. Jung proposed and developed the concepts of extraversion and introversion; archetypes, and the collective unconscious. His work has been influential in psychiatry and in the study of religion, philosophy, archeology, anthropology, literature, and related fields. He was a prolific writer, many of whose works were not published until after his death.
The central concept of analytical psychology is individuation—the psychological process of integrating the opposites, including the conscious with the unconscious, while still maintaining their relative autonomy. Jung considered individuation to be the central process of human development.
Jung created some of the best known psychological concepts, including the archetype, the collective unconscious, the complex, and synchronicity. The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), a popular psychometric instrument, has been developed from Jung's theory of psychological types.
Though he was a practising clinician and considered himself to be a scientist, much of his life's work was spent exploring tangential areas such as Eastern and Western philosophy, alchemy, astrology, and sociology, as well as literature and the arts. Jung's interest in philosophy and the occult led many to view him as a mystic, although his ambition was to be seen as a man of science. His influence on popular psychology, the "psychologization of religion", spirituality and the New Age movement has been immense.
The central concept of analytical psychology is individuation—the psychological process of integrating the opposites, including the conscious with the unconscious, while still maintaining their relative autonomy. Jung considered individuation to be the central process of human development.
Jung created some of the best known psychological concepts, including the archetype, the collective unconscious, the complex, and synchronicity. The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), a popular psychometric instrument, has been developed from Jung's theory of psychological types.
Though he was a practising clinician and considered himself to be a scientist, much of his life's work was spent exploring tangential areas such as Eastern and Western philosophy, alchemy, astrology, and sociology, as well as literature and the arts. Jung's interest in philosophy and the occult led many to view him as a mystic, although his ambition was to be seen as a man of science. His influence on popular psychology, the "psychologization of religion", spirituality and the New Age movement has been immense.
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January 8, 2022
Erinnerungen, Träume, Gedanken = Memories, Dreams, Reflections, C.G. Jung
Carl Gustav Jung (26 July 1875 � 6 June 1961) was a Swiss psychiatrist and psychoanalyst who founded analytical psychology. His work has been influential not only in psychiatry but also in anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, and religious studies.
Memories, Dreams, Reflections is a partially autobiographical book by Swiss psychologist Carl Jung and an associate, Aniela Jaffé. First published in German in 1962, an English translation appeared in 1963.
عنوانهای چاپ شده در ایران: «رؤیاها (رویاها، خواب دیدن)»؛ «خاطرات� رویاها� ان‍دی‍ش‍ه‌ه‍ا»� «زندگی‌نام� من: خاطرات، خواب‌ه� و تفکرات»؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاو (س.جی) یونگ؛ تاریخ نخستین خوانش: در ماه می سال2009میلادی
عنوان: رؤیاها (رویاها، خواب دیدن)؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاو (س.جی) یونگ؛ مترجم: ابوالقاسم اسماعیل� پور؛ تهران، انتشارات کاروان، سال1384؛ در154ص؛ شابک9648497095؛ چاپ سوم سال1386؛ شابک9789648497090؛ چاپ چهارم سال1387؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، نشر قطره، سال1389، شابک9786001191664؛ چاپ هشتم سال1392؛ موضوع روانشناسی - خواب دیدن و یادمانها از نویسندگان سوئیس سده20م
عنوان: خاطرات� رویاها� ان‍دی‍ش‍ه‌ه‍ا� نویسنده: کارل� گ‍وس‍ت‍ا� یونگ� ترجمه� پ‍روی‍ن� ف‍رام‍رزی� م‍ش‍ه�: آستان قدس رضوی،معاونت فرهنگی� سال1370؛ در425ص؛ چاپ دوم سال1371؛ چاپ سوم سال1378؛ شابک9646700365؛ چاپ چهارم سال1390؛ چاپ پنجم سال1395؛ در424ص؛ شابک9789640216064؛
عنوان: زندگی‌نام� من: خاطرات، خواب‌ه� و تفکرات؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاویونگ؛ مترجم بهروز ذکا؛ تهران، کتاب پارسه، سال1390؛ در623ص؛ چاپ دوم سال1392؛ چاپ سوم سال1396؛
روانشناس� «رؤیا» یا خواب دیدن است، چند ورق که خواندم، خیالم بال بال زد، انگار پرواز آسانتر شده بود، آبی بودم، و آسمان و دریا در یادم زنده شدند؛ خوانشگران بیشمار آثار «یونگ»، در این کتاب، روند زندگی ایشان را، که از کودکانگی ایشان آغاز میشود، درمیابند؛ ایشان زندگی خویش، و چگونگی شکلگیری دیدگاههای خود را، در این کتاب بازگو میکنند؛ انگار کنید این اثر، برای خوانش دیگر آثار ایشان، مقدمه ای به شمار میآید
تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 26/11/1399هجری خورشیدی؛ 17/10/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی
Carl Gustav Jung (26 July 1875 � 6 June 1961) was a Swiss psychiatrist and psychoanalyst who founded analytical psychology. His work has been influential not only in psychiatry but also in anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, and religious studies.
Memories, Dreams, Reflections is a partially autobiographical book by Swiss psychologist Carl Jung and an associate, Aniela Jaffé. First published in German in 1962, an English translation appeared in 1963.
عنوانهای چاپ شده در ایران: «رؤیاها (رویاها، خواب دیدن)»؛ «خاطرات� رویاها� ان‍دی‍ش‍ه‌ه‍ا»� «زندگی‌نام� من: خاطرات، خواب‌ه� و تفکرات»؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاو (س.جی) یونگ؛ تاریخ نخستین خوانش: در ماه می سال2009میلادی
عنوان: رؤیاها (رویاها، خواب دیدن)؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاو (س.جی) یونگ؛ مترجم: ابوالقاسم اسماعیل� پور؛ تهران، انتشارات کاروان، سال1384؛ در154ص؛ شابک9648497095؛ چاپ سوم سال1386؛ شابک9789648497090؛ چاپ چهارم سال1387؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، نشر قطره، سال1389، شابک9786001191664؛ چاپ هشتم سال1392؛ موضوع روانشناسی - خواب دیدن و یادمانها از نویسندگان سوئیس سده20م
عنوان: خاطرات� رویاها� ان‍دی‍ش‍ه‌ه‍ا� نویسنده: کارل� گ‍وس‍ت‍ا� یونگ� ترجمه� پ‍روی‍ن� ف‍رام‍رزی� م‍ش‍ه�: آستان قدس رضوی،معاونت فرهنگی� سال1370؛ در425ص؛ چاپ دوم سال1371؛ چاپ سوم سال1378؛ شابک9646700365؛ چاپ چهارم سال1390؛ چاپ پنجم سال1395؛ در424ص؛ شابک9789640216064؛
عنوان: زندگی‌نام� من: خاطرات، خواب‌ه� و تفکرات؛ نویسنده: کارل گوستاویونگ؛ مترجم بهروز ذکا؛ تهران، کتاب پارسه، سال1390؛ در623ص؛ چاپ دوم سال1392؛ چاپ سوم سال1396؛
روانشناس� «رؤیا» یا خواب دیدن است، چند ورق که خواندم، خیالم بال بال زد، انگار پرواز آسانتر شده بود، آبی بودم، و آسمان و دریا در یادم زنده شدند؛ خوانشگران بیشمار آثار «یونگ»، در این کتاب، روند زندگی ایشان را، که از کودکانگی ایشان آغاز میشود، درمیابند؛ ایشان زندگی خویش، و چگونگی شکلگیری دیدگاههای خود را، در این کتاب بازگو میکنند؛ انگار کنید این اثر، برای خوانش دیگر آثار ایشان، مقدمه ای به شمار میآید
تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 26/11/1399هجری خورشیدی؛ 17/10/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی
August 14, 2015
Çok sevdiğim bir yazarın rüyalar üzerine düşüncelerini okumak keyifli oldu. Hatta rüyalar konusunda da Freud'dan çok daha başarılı olduğunu düşündüm kitabı okuduktan sonra.
Jung'u okumayı, insan hayatının belli dönemlerine yedirmeli bence.. İlk kez 20'li yaşlarımın başında okumuştum. Belli bir Jung algısı oluşmaya başlamıştı, Jung a giriş seviyeşi diyebilirim o yıllar için. Kafamda bir şeyler oluşmuştu ancak net değildi tabi. Bir on yıl sonra bu zemin üzerine başka kitaplarını okuyunca kafamda daha da netleşti bazı kavram ve düşünceler, bir basamak daha yükseldiğimi, daha iyi çözdüğümü fark ettim bazı şeyleri.
Yine aydınlatıcı yine insanı kendiyle kucaklaştırıcı.
Ancak artık dilimizde güzel bir Jung külliyatı oluşsa da böyle parça parça ordan burdan değil de tam okuma şerefine nail olsak çok daha güzel olur sanki.
Jung'u okumayı, insan hayatının belli dönemlerine yedirmeli bence.. İlk kez 20'li yaşlarımın başında okumuştum. Belli bir Jung algısı oluşmaya başlamıştı, Jung a giriş seviyeşi diyebilirim o yıllar için. Kafamda bir şeyler oluşmuştu ancak net değildi tabi. Bir on yıl sonra bu zemin üzerine başka kitaplarını okuyunca kafamda daha da netleşti bazı kavram ve düşünceler, bir basamak daha yükseldiğimi, daha iyi çözdüğümü fark ettim bazı şeyleri.
Yine aydınlatıcı yine insanı kendiyle kucaklaştırıcı.
Ancak artık dilimizde güzel bir Jung külliyatı oluşsa da böyle parça parça ordan burdan değil de tam okuma şerefine nail olsak çok daha güzel olur sanki.
July 17, 2012
Carl Jung says he has analysed more than 2.000 dreams per year, a very impressive number by anyone's standards. In his Dreams book, which a very good collection of many of his dreams experiments, he is after demolishing some Freudian's dreams concepts, mainly the one which asserts that the purpose of dreams is to fulfill infantile sexual wishes repressed in the unconscious, which don't find adequate outlet trough conscious activities.
To add content to this dispute, one has only to have in mind that Jung was a very ardent disciple of Freud in the beginning of his career, but the relationship turned sour after 1914 in the figthing for prestige at the foundation of the Psychanalisys in the beginning of the 20th century.
In Jung's view, dreams are not only wish fulfillers, but they are also compensatory vis-a-vis our daily conscious life. So, the purpose of them is to balance our conscious and unconscious life. So, if life is good, dreams are bad and vice-versa. At the end of his life, Jung said in one of his testimonials that by means of a very representative dream he closed a circle, which meant he got a balanced mental life between unconscious and consciousness.
Also, dreams should be taken not as isolated entities, but rather as a series of concatenated manifestations of the unconscious, something which could be represented by the ancient mandalas (Sanscrit for circle) of many peoples from the ancient world (mayas, hindus, polinesians, etc...), where the ultimate end is to attain a balance mind. Jung's theory of the unconscious is, in my opinion, pretty much more attractive than Freud's, specially in what it regards the timelessness of the unconscious and the unconscious collective.
Reading "Dreams" after reading Freud's "Interpretation of Dreams" is a magnificient experience and the winner is surely the reader, who gets the most of two of the most proeminent and polemical psychanalysts of all times.
To add content to this dispute, one has only to have in mind that Jung was a very ardent disciple of Freud in the beginning of his career, but the relationship turned sour after 1914 in the figthing for prestige at the foundation of the Psychanalisys in the beginning of the 20th century.
In Jung's view, dreams are not only wish fulfillers, but they are also compensatory vis-a-vis our daily conscious life. So, the purpose of them is to balance our conscious and unconscious life. So, if life is good, dreams are bad and vice-versa. At the end of his life, Jung said in one of his testimonials that by means of a very representative dream he closed a circle, which meant he got a balanced mental life between unconscious and consciousness.
Also, dreams should be taken not as isolated entities, but rather as a series of concatenated manifestations of the unconscious, something which could be represented by the ancient mandalas (Sanscrit for circle) of many peoples from the ancient world (mayas, hindus, polinesians, etc...), where the ultimate end is to attain a balance mind. Jung's theory of the unconscious is, in my opinion, pretty much more attractive than Freud's, specially in what it regards the timelessness of the unconscious and the unconscious collective.
Reading "Dreams" after reading Freud's "Interpretation of Dreams" is a magnificient experience and the winner is surely the reader, who gets the most of two of the most proeminent and polemical psychanalysts of all times.
February 10, 2021
کتاب رؤیاها کتابی بسیار شخصی است به این معنی که صرف نظر از اشاره‌ها� تایید یا رد� کننده� گاه‌و‌بی‌گا� به آثار و نظریات فروید، یونگ اکثرا نظریات و عقاید شخصی خودش پیرامون ماهیت خودآگاه، ناخودآگاه و رؤیا به مثابه� جلوه و زبانی محدود برای قسمتی از ناخودآگاه و همچنین رابطه� بین این ساختارهای روان رو بیان میکنه. سپس به صورت کلی نظر خودش در مورد نوعِ نگاهی که روان‌درمانگ� باید نسبت به رؤیاها داشته باشه رو شرح میده و اینکه استفاده� مؤثر از تحلیل رؤیا برای کمک به بیمار چه کیفیاتی باید داشته باشه.
در تمام مسیری که ذکر کردم شاید کمتر نشانی از استدلال یا اشاره� گسترده به تحقیقات تجربی به رسمیت شناخته‌شد� وجود داشته باشه و به گمانم همین نظریات یونگ رو در میان حلقه‌ها� آکادمیک روانشناسان و روان‌درمانگرا� بحث‌برانگی� میکنه.
دقیقا نمیدونم چه برداشت و حسی از کتاب دارم ولی قطعا باعث شد با دید جدی‌تر� به رؤیاهای خودم نگاه کنم و شاید اون‌ه� رو وسیله� دریافت پیام‌ها� جدی و گاهی هشداردهنده از سمت ناخودآگاه ببینم و البته گاهی اون‌ه� رو ابزار ایجاد تعادل و جبران روحی و روانی تلقی کنم. در ادامه احتمالا کتاب‌ها� انسان و سمبولهایش اثر یونگ و زبان� از دست رفته� اثر اریک فروم در همین زمینه رو هم در لیست مطالعم ببینم.
در نهایت باید بگم اگر امکان مطالعه� نسخه� انگلیسی این کتاب رو دارین، قطعا از این ترجمه� تأسف‌با� دوری کنید. البته اگر قرار باشه زرشک طلایی‌ا� اهدا باشه، حتما باید مشترکا به مترجم، ویراستار و نشر قطره تقدیم بشه که الحق با کار گروهی فاجعه‌ا� رو خلق کردند که قاعدتا یک نفر به تنهایی از پسش برنمیومد. جالب اینه که من برای نشر قطره با توجه با کارهای خوبشون احترام قائلم و جناب ابوالقاسم اسماعیل‌پو� هم ظاهرا در سه دانشگاه شانگهای، دانشگاه دولتی مسکو و دانشگاه شهید بهشتی کرسی استادی داشته‌ان� و دارند و من که البته در جایگاه قضاوت مقام علمی ایشون نیستم این ترجمه رو برای آن چه که هست و اون شکنجه‌ا� که در جمله به جملش به من روا داشت بدون اغماض قضاوت میکنم. گروهی از دوستان گودریدزی اینجا در ریویوهاشون ایراد در درک ترجمه رو از کم‌دانشی‌شو� در زمینه� روانشناسی دونستن ولی من گرچه مطالعات زیادی در این زمینه ندارم با اعتماد کامل میتونم بگم که قسمت بزرگی از جملات با ساختار درست زبان فارسی مشکل دارن و البته از انتخاب عجیب و غریب واژگان که مسیر خوندن رو به جاده‌ا� پر چاله چوله و فریبکار در شبی تاریک تبدیل کردن هم نمیشه گذشت. اما اینکه ساده‌تری� کار یعنی مطابقت فاعل و فعل هم در بسیاری جملات رعایت نشده نشون از اینه که ویراستاری این اثر شوخی لوسی بیشتر نبوده و شگفتا که من چاپ پانزدهم کتاب رو در دست دارم. من اغلب در ستاره دادن به کتاب‌ه� خیلی سختگیر نیستم و اینجا هم بیشتر به خاطر ترجمه به کتاب ۳ میدم.
بریده‌های� از کتاب:
"این یک ویژگی است که رؤیاها هرگز خودشان را به شیوه� منطقی و انتزاعی تشریح نمی‌کنند� بلکه همیشه با زبان تمثیل یا تشبیه باز می‌نمایانن�. یکی از ویژگی‌ها� زبان‌ها� ابتدایی نیز همین است، که جلوه‌ها� عبارت‌بندیشا� خیلی متمایز است. اگر آثار ادبی باستانی را به یاد آوریم، در می‌یابی� که امروز از طریق امور انتزاعی بیان می‌شوند� در آن زمان غالبا از طریق تشبیه تشریح می‌شدن�. حتی فیلسوفی مانند افلاطون دونِ شأنِ خود نمی‌دانس� که برخی آرای بنیادی را بدین شیوه بیان کند."
"باید بین کارکرد آینده‌نگ� (prospective) رؤیاها و کارکرد جبرانی (compensatory) آن‌ه� تمایز قائل شوم. کارکرد جبرانی بدین معنی است که ناخودآگاه � که به خودآگاه وابسته است � همه� عناصر روز قبل را که زیرِ مرزِ آگاهی بودند، به وضعیت خودآگاه می‌افزای� و این به خاطر سرکوفتگی یا به خاطر آن است که آن‌ه� به قدری سست بودند که به مرز خودآگاهی نرسیدند. این جنبه� جبرانی، به معنی تنظیم خودبه‌خود� اندامه� روانی باید هدف‌دا� تلقی گردد.
کارکرد آینده‌نگر� از طرف دیگر، عبارت است از پیش‌بین� ناخودآگاهِ کنش‌ها� خودآگاهانه� آینده، چیزی مانند فعالیت یا طرح مقدماتی، یا نقشه‌ا� از پیش طرح شده."
"باید این حقیقت را بپذیریم که ناخودآگاه همیشه همان جنبه‌ا� را که نگرش خودآگاه می‌نمایاند� ارائه نمی‌دهد� بلکه ظاهر و کارکرد خود را درست به اندازه� خودآگاه تغییر میده� و این خود دلیل دیگری است بر این که چرا شکل بخشیدنِ عقیده‌ا� واقعی و ملموس در باب سرشت ناخودآگاه این همه دشوار است."
"ما دیگری را به همان شیوه‌ا� درک می‌کنی� که خود را درک می‌کنی� یا سعی می‌کنی� که درک کنیم. آن چه که در خود درک نمی‌کنیم� در دیگری هم نمی‌توانی� درک کنیم."
"کل فعالیت رؤیا لزوما ذهنی است. یک رؤیا مثل تئاتر است که رؤیابین خودش در عین‌حا� صحنه، بازیگر، آگاهی‌دهنده� تهیه‌کننده� نویسنده، تماشاگر و منتقد است."
"در درمان روان‌نژندی� وظیفه� ما برقراری هماهنگی تقریبی بین خودآگاه و ناخودآگاه است. چنان که می‌دانیم� این کار به شیوه‌ها� گوناگون مثل《زیست� طبیعی》� استدلال قانع‌کننده� و تقویت اراده گرفته تا تحلیل ناخودآگاه، میسر می‌گرد�."
در تمام مسیری که ذکر کردم شاید کمتر نشانی از استدلال یا اشاره� گسترده به تحقیقات تجربی به رسمیت شناخته‌شد� وجود داشته باشه و به گمانم همین نظریات یونگ رو در میان حلقه‌ها� آکادمیک روانشناسان و روان‌درمانگرا� بحث‌برانگی� میکنه.
دقیقا نمیدونم چه برداشت و حسی از کتاب دارم ولی قطعا باعث شد با دید جدی‌تر� به رؤیاهای خودم نگاه کنم و شاید اون‌ه� رو وسیله� دریافت پیام‌ها� جدی و گاهی هشداردهنده از سمت ناخودآگاه ببینم و البته گاهی اون‌ه� رو ابزار ایجاد تعادل و جبران روحی و روانی تلقی کنم. در ادامه احتمالا کتاب‌ها� انسان و سمبولهایش اثر یونگ و زبان� از دست رفته� اثر اریک فروم در همین زمینه رو هم در لیست مطالعم ببینم.
در نهایت باید بگم اگر امکان مطالعه� نسخه� انگلیسی این کتاب رو دارین، قطعا از این ترجمه� تأسف‌با� دوری کنید. البته اگر قرار باشه زرشک طلایی‌ا� اهدا باشه، حتما باید مشترکا به مترجم، ویراستار و نشر قطره تقدیم بشه که الحق با کار گروهی فاجعه‌ا� رو خلق کردند که قاعدتا یک نفر به تنهایی از پسش برنمیومد. جالب اینه که من برای نشر قطره با توجه با کارهای خوبشون احترام قائلم و جناب ابوالقاسم اسماعیل‌پو� هم ظاهرا در سه دانشگاه شانگهای، دانشگاه دولتی مسکو و دانشگاه شهید بهشتی کرسی استادی داشته‌ان� و دارند و من که البته در جایگاه قضاوت مقام علمی ایشون نیستم این ترجمه رو برای آن چه که هست و اون شکنجه‌ا� که در جمله به جملش به من روا داشت بدون اغماض قضاوت میکنم. گروهی از دوستان گودریدزی اینجا در ریویوهاشون ایراد در درک ترجمه رو از کم‌دانشی‌شو� در زمینه� روانشناسی دونستن ولی من گرچه مطالعات زیادی در این زمینه ندارم با اعتماد کامل میتونم بگم که قسمت بزرگی از جملات با ساختار درست زبان فارسی مشکل دارن و البته از انتخاب عجیب و غریب واژگان که مسیر خوندن رو به جاده‌ا� پر چاله چوله و فریبکار در شبی تاریک تبدیل کردن هم نمیشه گذشت. اما اینکه ساده‌تری� کار یعنی مطابقت فاعل و فعل هم در بسیاری جملات رعایت نشده نشون از اینه که ویراستاری این اثر شوخی لوسی بیشتر نبوده و شگفتا که من چاپ پانزدهم کتاب رو در دست دارم. من اغلب در ستاره دادن به کتاب‌ه� خیلی سختگیر نیستم و اینجا هم بیشتر به خاطر ترجمه به کتاب ۳ میدم.
بریده‌های� از کتاب:
"این یک ویژگی است که رؤیاها هرگز خودشان را به شیوه� منطقی و انتزاعی تشریح نمی‌کنند� بلکه همیشه با زبان تمثیل یا تشبیه باز می‌نمایانن�. یکی از ویژگی‌ها� زبان‌ها� ابتدایی نیز همین است، که جلوه‌ها� عبارت‌بندیشا� خیلی متمایز است. اگر آثار ادبی باستانی را به یاد آوریم، در می‌یابی� که امروز از طریق امور انتزاعی بیان می‌شوند� در آن زمان غالبا از طریق تشبیه تشریح می‌شدن�. حتی فیلسوفی مانند افلاطون دونِ شأنِ خود نمی‌دانس� که برخی آرای بنیادی را بدین شیوه بیان کند."
"باید بین کارکرد آینده‌نگ� (prospective) رؤیاها و کارکرد جبرانی (compensatory) آن‌ه� تمایز قائل شوم. کارکرد جبرانی بدین معنی است که ناخودآگاه � که به خودآگاه وابسته است � همه� عناصر روز قبل را که زیرِ مرزِ آگاهی بودند، به وضعیت خودآگاه می‌افزای� و این به خاطر سرکوفتگی یا به خاطر آن است که آن‌ه� به قدری سست بودند که به مرز خودآگاهی نرسیدند. این جنبه� جبرانی، به معنی تنظیم خودبه‌خود� اندامه� روانی باید هدف‌دا� تلقی گردد.
کارکرد آینده‌نگر� از طرف دیگر، عبارت است از پیش‌بین� ناخودآگاهِ کنش‌ها� خودآگاهانه� آینده، چیزی مانند فعالیت یا طرح مقدماتی، یا نقشه‌ا� از پیش طرح شده."
"باید این حقیقت را بپذیریم که ناخودآگاه همیشه همان جنبه‌ا� را که نگرش خودآگاه می‌نمایاند� ارائه نمی‌دهد� بلکه ظاهر و کارکرد خود را درست به اندازه� خودآگاه تغییر میده� و این خود دلیل دیگری است بر این که چرا شکل بخشیدنِ عقیده‌ا� واقعی و ملموس در باب سرشت ناخودآگاه این همه دشوار است."
"ما دیگری را به همان شیوه‌ا� درک می‌کنی� که خود را درک می‌کنی� یا سعی می‌کنی� که درک کنیم. آن چه که در خود درک نمی‌کنیم� در دیگری هم نمی‌توانی� درک کنیم."
"کل فعالیت رؤیا لزوما ذهنی است. یک رؤیا مثل تئاتر است که رؤیابین خودش در عین‌حا� صحنه، بازیگر، آگاهی‌دهنده� تهیه‌کننده� نویسنده، تماشاگر و منتقد است."
"در درمان روان‌نژندی� وظیفه� ما برقراری هماهنگی تقریبی بین خودآگاه و ناخودآگاه است. چنان که می‌دانیم� این کار به شیوه‌ها� گوناگون مثل《زیست� طبیعی》� استدلال قانع‌کننده� و تقویت اراده گرفته تا تحلیل ناخودآگاه، میسر می‌گرد�."
August 14, 2017
It seems to me that the only way one would disagree with Jung's analysis of dreams and their meanings is if they had a personal nerve touched a bit too close too a wound. This read is essential. There's no need to delve into mythology in full to understand Jung. His descriptions provide the necessary information. To read Jung is to get comfortable navigating the unknown in what might be a boat, a hat or a paper plane. Trusting the unconscious, the vehicles it uses and the archetypes it illustrates are necessary prerequisites for appreciating the journey Jung takes. To say mythology is no longer modern is to ignore its presence within your own psyche.
May 22, 2019
“Ruhta sessizce olanları seyretmek çok değerlidir; en fazla ve en iyi şeyler de dışarıdan ve yukarıdan müdahale edilmediğinde olur. İnsan ruhunda olanlara o kadar saygı duyuyorum ki beceriksizce müdahalelerle onun sessiz işleyişini rahatsız etmekten ya da bozmaktan korktuğumu kabul ediyorum.�
Rüya gören ve bunu kıyısından sizinle paylaşan birine, rüyası hakkında yorumlamalar yapıldığında ya da sorular sorulduğunda çoğu kez reddeder. Rüya gören kişi, şimdi de bilinçli durumdayken o yorumu çoğunlukla kabul etmek istemeyecektir. Bu sebeple sadece etrafındakilerin derdine düşmeyen; kendi kendini de analiz edebilen zihinlerin işidir rüya yorumlamak bence. Kendi otomatizmine dair birçok referans noktası bulabileceğimiz gibi, çoğu kez anlamlandıramadığımız olaylar silsilesiyle de karşı karşıya kalabiliriz. Uyanır uyanmaz rüyayı unutmanın bile bize anlatmak istediği şeyler vardır� Bu sebeple uyanır uyanmaz yazmaya çalışmak sizi bir sonraki rüyanızı hatırlamaya yönlendirecek bir durumdur. Eskiden rüyalarımı kayıt altına alan biriydim. Bunun oldukça faydasını da gördüm. Şimdilerde yapamasam da Adorno’nun Rüya Kayıtları kitabındaki şu cümlenin beni hala çok etkilemiş olduğundan bahsedebilirim.
“Rüya, şakalarının kalitesi hakkında tasalanmaz. İyi espriler yapmak derdinde değildir; çünkü zaten herhangi bir şey yapmak istememektedir. Rüya yönelimsizdir; çünkü kendisi yönelimdir; bu nedenle rüyaların isabetli ya da isabetsiz olması söz konusu değildir.�
Tam da bu sebeple� Eğer herkesin uçtuğunu gördüğü rüya aynı anlama gelseydi, birimiz at ile bir diğerimiz uçakla diğeri ise kollarıyla uçtuğunu görüyorolmazdı. Kalıplaşmış rüya yorumlarını geçin. Kendinizi yorun�
Bu kitabın ikinci yarısında da Jung şahsen tanımadığı birilerinin rüyalarını kendisi görmüş gibi yorumluyor. Çünkü tanımadığı birinin rüyasını yorumlamanın imkânsızlığına değiniyor. Her şeye rağmen yorumlarımızı salt bir gerçeklikle örtüştürmeniz imkânsızdır da diyor. Bilincin bir papağan gibi eğitilebileceğini, bilinçdışının ise kontrol edilemez bir yapısı olduğunu baştan kabul ederek sadece birazcık kapı aralamak için bile bu yorumlamalara girmeyi, bir ben çok gizemli bulmuyorumdur sanırım� Sırayla yorumladığı rüyalar bir süre sonra kitabın cazibesini birazcık yitirmesine sebep oluyor aslında. Rüyaları cidden hissetmekte zorlandım. Fakat bir noktada rüyaların analizini “nasıl� yapıyor olduğuna dair ipuçları alıyor olmak fikriyle okuduğumda heyecanımı tekrar kazandım.
Rüya gören ve bunu kıyısından sizinle paylaşan birine, rüyası hakkında yorumlamalar yapıldığında ya da sorular sorulduğunda çoğu kez reddeder. Rüya gören kişi, şimdi de bilinçli durumdayken o yorumu çoğunlukla kabul etmek istemeyecektir. Bu sebeple sadece etrafındakilerin derdine düşmeyen; kendi kendini de analiz edebilen zihinlerin işidir rüya yorumlamak bence. Kendi otomatizmine dair birçok referans noktası bulabileceğimiz gibi, çoğu kez anlamlandıramadığımız olaylar silsilesiyle de karşı karşıya kalabiliriz. Uyanır uyanmaz rüyayı unutmanın bile bize anlatmak istediği şeyler vardır� Bu sebeple uyanır uyanmaz yazmaya çalışmak sizi bir sonraki rüyanızı hatırlamaya yönlendirecek bir durumdur. Eskiden rüyalarımı kayıt altına alan biriydim. Bunun oldukça faydasını da gördüm. Şimdilerde yapamasam da Adorno’nun Rüya Kayıtları kitabındaki şu cümlenin beni hala çok etkilemiş olduğundan bahsedebilirim.
“Rüya, şakalarının kalitesi hakkında tasalanmaz. İyi espriler yapmak derdinde değildir; çünkü zaten herhangi bir şey yapmak istememektedir. Rüya yönelimsizdir; çünkü kendisi yönelimdir; bu nedenle rüyaların isabetli ya da isabetsiz olması söz konusu değildir.�
Tam da bu sebeple� Eğer herkesin uçtuğunu gördüğü rüya aynı anlama gelseydi, birimiz at ile bir diğerimiz uçakla diğeri ise kollarıyla uçtuğunu görüyorolmazdı. Kalıplaşmış rüya yorumlarını geçin. Kendinizi yorun�
Bu kitabın ikinci yarısında da Jung şahsen tanımadığı birilerinin rüyalarını kendisi görmüş gibi yorumluyor. Çünkü tanımadığı birinin rüyasını yorumlamanın imkânsızlığına değiniyor. Her şeye rağmen yorumlarımızı salt bir gerçeklikle örtüştürmeniz imkânsızdır da diyor. Bilincin bir papağan gibi eğitilebileceğini, bilinçdışının ise kontrol edilemez bir yapısı olduğunu baştan kabul ederek sadece birazcık kapı aralamak için bile bu yorumlamalara girmeyi, bir ben çok gizemli bulmuyorumdur sanırım� Sırayla yorumladığı rüyalar bir süre sonra kitabın cazibesini birazcık yitirmesine sebep oluyor aslında. Rüyaları cidden hissetmekte zorlandım. Fakat bir noktada rüyaların analizini “nasıl� yapıyor olduğuna dair ipuçları alıyor olmak fikriyle okuduğumda heyecanımı tekrar kazandım.
May 3, 2010
A collection of essays about dreams. Jung’s explanation about “compensation� as a way to understand dreams helped me see things in a new way � for example, I thought my recurring dream about driving an out-of-control car meant my conscious life was out of control. Instead, the dream could be compensating for a conscious life that was in control far too much. Jung relates “compensation� to his ideas on the four functions, and how compensation helps to form a balance.
Some quotes I liked:
“The relation between conscious and unconscious is compensatory. This is one of the best-proven rules of dream interpretation. When we set out to interpret a dream, it is always helpful to ask: What conscious attitude does it compensate?�
“The only thing we know about the contents of the unconscious, apart from the fact that they are subliminal, is that they stand in a compensatory relationship to consciousness and are therefore essentially relative. It is for this reason that knowledge of the conscious situation is necessary if we want to understand dreams.�
“Everything that is unconscious is projected, and for this reason the analyst should be conscious of at least the most important contents of his unconscious, lest unconscious projections cloud his judgment.�
“All the contents of our unconscious are constantly being projected into our surroundings, and it is only by recognizing certain properties of the objects as projections or imagos that we are able to distinguish them from the real properties of the objects. But if we are not aware that a property of the object is a projection, we cannot do anything else but be naively convinced that it really does belong to the object. All human relationships swarm with these projections.�
Some quotes I liked:
“The relation between conscious and unconscious is compensatory. This is one of the best-proven rules of dream interpretation. When we set out to interpret a dream, it is always helpful to ask: What conscious attitude does it compensate?�
“The only thing we know about the contents of the unconscious, apart from the fact that they are subliminal, is that they stand in a compensatory relationship to consciousness and are therefore essentially relative. It is for this reason that knowledge of the conscious situation is necessary if we want to understand dreams.�
“Everything that is unconscious is projected, and for this reason the analyst should be conscious of at least the most important contents of his unconscious, lest unconscious projections cloud his judgment.�
“All the contents of our unconscious are constantly being projected into our surroundings, and it is only by recognizing certain properties of the objects as projections or imagos that we are able to distinguish them from the real properties of the objects. But if we are not aware that a property of the object is a projection, we cannot do anything else but be naively convinced that it really does belong to the object. All human relationships swarm with these projections.�
June 16, 2014
On reading this I am even more convinced that Jung vastly overthinks and over analyses what dreams are. The section on numbers in dreams is particularly silly and felt like a particularly bad combination of numerology, the sort of science that tries to find secret number codes in blocks of biblical text, and the ravings of a stage medium. However in terms of presentation it’s a well thought out selection of Jung’s writings on the topic, nicely reproduced, with many wonderful illustrations from the original text. I would certainly recommend for anyone wanting to explore this aspect of Jung’s thinking.
September 19, 2011
مردم می‌خوابند� رویا می‌بینند� باور را مهم می‌پندارن� و وقت‌شا� را صرف تعبیر خواب می‌کنن�. یونگ، در ادامه� پژوهش‌ها� روانکاوی� به ما نشان میده� که رویا چیست و چه درونه‌ا� دارد؟ پنهان است یا آشکار؟ بازداری ذهنی است یا یک کابوسِ بعد از شام؟
ترجمه� فارسی کتاب در نوع خود شاه‌کا� است.
ترجمه� فارسی کتاب در نوع خود شاه‌کا� است.
April 5, 2015
حتا فکر کردن به این‌ک� رؤیا ساختاری شبیه نمایش‌نام� داره حس آدم رو به خواب‌ها� شبانه‌ا� بهتر می‌کن�.
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December 20, 2024i am finally willing to concede that jung just isn't funny enough for me. i know there's a differentiation in his work between like universal, "big" dreams and personalized "little" dreams and maybe i just haven't experienced the former but personally i do not dream of vague geometric shapes that lend themselves to gnostic readings. the other night i dreamed i was samantha from sex and the city giving a jimmy fallon interview. what does the kybalion have to say about that.
i like... believe in the importance of individuation and listening to the Self and the existence of the archetypes and i also do not think by any means that my dreams are meaningless or absurd. that being said the archetypes that feature in my dreams are not composite figures traced from renaissance paintings. the most popular characters in my dreams at the moment are like the rizzler and three of my exes.
i want to believe! and i kind of do! and maybe i haven't been through enough crises recently for this to resonate but i think that in breaking with freud jung may have underestimated the importance of humor and specificity. or maybe i just need to log off. still recommend the first 100 pages of this though.
i like... believe in the importance of individuation and listening to the Self and the existence of the archetypes and i also do not think by any means that my dreams are meaningless or absurd. that being said the archetypes that feature in my dreams are not composite figures traced from renaissance paintings. the most popular characters in my dreams at the moment are like the rizzler and three of my exes.
i want to believe! and i kind of do! and maybe i haven't been through enough crises recently for this to resonate but i think that in breaking with freud jung may have underestimated the importance of humor and specificity. or maybe i just need to log off. still recommend the first 100 pages of this though.
November 21, 2007
رؤیا لازمه� قطعی فرایند تجزیه و تحلیل روانی است . این کتاب، ادعانامه� مهمی از جانب کارل گوستاو یونگ، در روانشناس� رؤیاست. یونگ به هنگام بحث درباره� رؤیا، مبحثی بی‌نظی� و غنی از عرفان ، دین، فرهنگ و نمادشناسی پیش می‌کش� و مرجعی قابل تامل برای آنانی است که به روانشناس� تحلیلی یونگ، درک و تحلیل رؤیاها، و ارتباط رؤیاها با نمادها و مفاهیم باستانی بشر علاقه‌مندن�.
May 20, 2023
Bu kitabı almamdaki motivasyon, Jung’un düşüncelerini çok sevmem ve git gide ilginçleşen rüyalarımı biraz olsun analiz edebilmek olmuştu.
Öncelikle şunu söylemem gerekir okunması hiç de kolay bir kitap değil. Daha öncesinde Jung’un kuramlarına biraz da olsa hakim olmanız gerekiyor. İlk defa Jung okuyacaksanız asla tavsiye etmem. Ama eğer sıkı bir okursanız, bir süredir psikolojiye hakimseniz, spiritüel, metafiziksel konulara ilginiz varsa ve tarih-mitoloji gibi konular dikkatinizi çekiyorsa kesinlikle tavsiye edebilirim.
Kitap ilk kısmında rüya analizlerine değiniyor. (Bu bölümde Sayı Rüyalarının Anlamı Üzerine bir bölüm bulunuyor ki asla içselleştiremedim. Çok afedersiniz ama Bahçeli’nin “mhp’nin 40. yılı kutlu olsun� söylemindeki teoriler gibi geldi:( )
İkinci kısım üçüncü kısım oldukça faydalı ve oldukça öğreticiydi. Kitap beklentimin çok üstünde psikolojik açıklamara yer vermiş ve bilinçdışının rüyalar vasıtayla analizi ile ilgili güzel yönlendirmelerde bulunmuş.
Dördüncü ve son kısım ise kollektif bilinçdışının rüyalardaki yorumlamalarını mitoloji-din tarihi-doğu motifleri üzerinden anlatmış. Son kısımın başları çok güzel olsa da tek bir danışanın ardışık ve sayıca fazla rüyalarını benim için karışık ve fazla terimsel gelen psikolojik/mitolojik şekilde yorumladığı son kısımları beni çok yordu. Yani son 50 sayfa (elbette tamamlayıcılığı vardır ama) bana olmasa da olurmuş dedirtti.
Ben kitabı okuduğum için mutluyum. Altını çizdiğim, not aldığım, ileride üstünde düşüneceğim ve beni yeni araştırmalara sevk edecek bir sürü bölüm oldu. Rüyalarımı anlamama yardım edece mi? Elbette katkı yapacaktır. Ama kesinlikle rüya analizinden fazlasını vaat eden bir kitap.
Öncelikle şunu söylemem gerekir okunması hiç de kolay bir kitap değil. Daha öncesinde Jung’un kuramlarına biraz da olsa hakim olmanız gerekiyor. İlk defa Jung okuyacaksanız asla tavsiye etmem. Ama eğer sıkı bir okursanız, bir süredir psikolojiye hakimseniz, spiritüel, metafiziksel konulara ilginiz varsa ve tarih-mitoloji gibi konular dikkatinizi çekiyorsa kesinlikle tavsiye edebilirim.
Kitap ilk kısmında rüya analizlerine değiniyor. (Bu bölümde Sayı Rüyalarının Anlamı Üzerine bir bölüm bulunuyor ki asla içselleştiremedim. Çok afedersiniz ama Bahçeli’nin “mhp’nin 40. yılı kutlu olsun� söylemindeki teoriler gibi geldi:( )
İkinci kısım üçüncü kısım oldukça faydalı ve oldukça öğreticiydi. Kitap beklentimin çok üstünde psikolojik açıklamara yer vermiş ve bilinçdışının rüyalar vasıtayla analizi ile ilgili güzel yönlendirmelerde bulunmuş.
Dördüncü ve son kısım ise kollektif bilinçdışının rüyalardaki yorumlamalarını mitoloji-din tarihi-doğu motifleri üzerinden anlatmış. Son kısımın başları çok güzel olsa da tek bir danışanın ardışık ve sayıca fazla rüyalarını benim için karışık ve fazla terimsel gelen psikolojik/mitolojik şekilde yorumladığı son kısımları beni çok yordu. Yani son 50 sayfa (elbette tamamlayıcılığı vardır ama) bana olmasa da olurmuş dedirtti.
Ben kitabı okuduğum için mutluyum. Altını çizdiğim, not aldığım, ileride üstünde düşüneceğim ve beni yeni araştırmalara sevk edecek bir sürü bölüm oldu. Rüyalarımı anlamama yardım edece mi? Elbette katkı yapacaktır. Ama kesinlikle rüya analizinden fazlasını vaat eden bir kitap.
May 26, 2017
١ - الأحلام غائية، بمعنى إنها تحدث اتزان فى حالة إذا أخذ الذهن الشعورى اتجاه أحادى البعد، فهى تذكره بجوانب أخرى بهدف الحفاظ على الصحة النفسية. مثلا، رجل من أصل وضيع أو قروى، ترقى اجتماعيا وظلت امجاده تتصاعد بغير توقف، فنبهته أحلامه إلى ماضيه وأصله الوضيع، لأنه كان فى حاجة إلى التوقف وممارسة التقدم كانت تعنى الانحدار. متسلق جبال حلم بالسقوط، كان الحلم ينبهه لاعتلال غير ملموس ونزعة تهوريه إلى التهاون وبالتالى كان فى عرضه للخطأ، فكان الحلم محذرا ومنبئا بالسقوط إذا تغاضى الحالم عن تحذير الحلم. وهو ما حدث فعلا
٢ -الأحلام أخلاقية، فهى تنبه إلى معايير موجودة فى الوعى الجمعى وتضيف إلى الوضع السيكولوجى الراهن كل تلك الجوانب التى هى أساسية بالنسبة إلى وجهة نظر مختلفة كليا، أى أن لها وظيفة تعادل التلاؤم السيكولوجى، التعويض الضرورى للعمل المتوازن كما ينبغى. ى
٣- تتمثل مادة الأحلام فى تراث من اللاوعى الجمعى المشترك عبر كل العصور والأجيال، والذى قوامه رموز ومندالات صيغت بإلهام عفوى لتكشف للإنسان حقيقته الكليه، نموذج مفترض لذات كلية ينتج من توازن الشعور واللاشعور، عُبّر عن هذا النموذج برموز خيمائية كالحجر، الزهرة الزرقاء، الأنثروبوس، الإنسان الكامل المخنث، وهو وضع كلى يتحقق بعد النزول لأسفل، الجحيم، التمرغ فى وحل الأنيما واللاشعور (رموز الآلهة الأقزام، وآلهة العربدة والسكر، بان وديونسيوس، وهرمس المخنث، الإله الأكبر للعصور الخيميائية والمدارس الغنوصية) وهى تدفقات حلمية وإبداعية صيغت فى سلسلة محكمة من رموز الثقافات البشرية لتكشف وتعلم كيف يصل الإنسان للتوازن بتعرفه على جانبه المظلم. والباب الأخير من الكتاب الذى يتناول الأحلام المنداليه، أى الأحلام التى تأخذ مادتها من هذا التراث الرمزى ، يسرد أحلام شخص واحد افترض المؤلف أنها مجموعة من أحلام غائية ومهندسة انتظمت فى سلاسل، كل سلسلة حلمية تتكون من أحلام تكمل بعضها ويعتمد فيها كل حلم على صورة تكونت فى حلم آخر ليكمل عليها وتصل كل هذه الأحلام معا للغاية المنشودة : تعويض البعد الأحادى الناقص ل��وعى الفردى باستدعاء تداعيات من الوعى الجمعى الأزلى، لتحقيق الأنثروبوس، التجسد المتوازن لجماع قوى وطاقات الإنسان. وتحققت بعض النتائج، أحلام ترسم مندالات وُجدت فعلا من قديم الزمن ودون أن يكون للحالم أدنى علم بها. تكرر منتظم لنفس الرموز التى قامت عليها الديانات القديمة، وهى الرموز التى لا تحيل لشىء خلفها (كالأمثولات عند فرويد) وإنما لها أهمية فى ذاتها، وهى رموز مستقلة وضرورية وموضوعية، فهى لم توجد لتحجب، لكن لتعلّم
٤- يختلف يونج عن فرويد انه يرى العملية الشعورية التى تنتج الأحلام،عملية متفردة ومستقلة، وليست مجرد رد فعل لكبت غرائزى، إنه عالم أخر يبدأ نشاطه من نقطه أخرى، وهو موضوعى وله أرضيته وليس مجرد امتداد سببى سلبى لتفريغ لرغبات تم كبتها، فالحلم هو صوت أعمق يقول بكل بساطة للحالم : ما تفعله ليس صحيحا. "أن النفس ليست فريدة وذاتية أو شخصية إلا جوئيا، وهى فى بقية الأجزاء جماعية وموضوعية" . ٠
٢ -الأحلام أخلاقية، فهى تنبه إلى معايير موجودة فى الوعى الجمعى وتضيف إلى الوضع السيكولوجى الراهن كل تلك الجوانب التى هى أساسية بالنسبة إلى وجهة نظر مختلفة كليا، أى أن لها وظيفة تعادل التلاؤم السيكولوجى، التعويض الضرورى للعمل المتوازن كما ينبغى. ى
٣- تتمثل مادة الأحلام فى تراث من اللاوعى الجمعى المشترك عبر كل العصور والأجيال، والذى قوامه رموز ومندالات صيغت بإلهام عفوى لتكشف للإنسان حقيقته الكليه، نموذج مفترض لذات كلية ينتج من توازن الشعور واللاشعور، عُبّر عن هذا النموذج برموز خيمائية كالحجر، الزهرة الزرقاء، الأنثروبوس، الإنسان الكامل المخنث، وهو وضع كلى يتحقق بعد النزول لأسفل، الجحيم، التمرغ فى وحل الأنيما واللاشعور (رموز الآلهة الأقزام، وآلهة العربدة والسكر، بان وديونسيوس، وهرمس المخنث، الإله الأكبر للعصور الخيميائية والمدارس الغنوصية) وهى تدفقات حلمية وإبداعية صيغت فى سلسلة محكمة من رموز الثقافات البشرية لتكشف وتعلم كيف يصل الإنسان للتوازن بتعرفه على جانبه المظلم. والباب الأخير من الكتاب الذى يتناول الأحلام المنداليه، أى الأحلام التى تأخذ مادتها من هذا التراث الرمزى ، يسرد أحلام شخص واحد افترض المؤلف أنها مجموعة من أحلام غائية ومهندسة انتظمت فى سلاسل، كل سلسلة حلمية تتكون من أحلام تكمل بعضها ويعتمد فيها كل حلم على صورة تكونت فى حلم آخر ليكمل عليها وتصل كل هذه الأحلام معا للغاية المنشودة : تعويض البعد الأحادى الناقص ل��وعى الفردى باستدعاء تداعيات من الوعى الجمعى الأزلى، لتحقيق الأنثروبوس، التجسد المتوازن لجماع قوى وطاقات الإنسان. وتحققت بعض النتائج، أحلام ترسم مندالات وُجدت فعلا من قديم الزمن ودون أن يكون للحالم أدنى علم بها. تكرر منتظم لنفس الرموز التى قامت عليها الديانات القديمة، وهى الرموز التى لا تحيل لشىء خلفها (كالأمثولات عند فرويد) وإنما لها أهمية فى ذاتها، وهى رموز مستقلة وضرورية وموضوعية، فهى لم توجد لتحجب، لكن لتعلّم
٤- يختلف يونج عن فرويد انه يرى العملية الشعورية التى تنتج الأحلام،عملية متفردة ومستقلة، وليست مجرد رد فعل لكبت غرائزى، إنه عالم أخر يبدأ نشاطه من نقطه أخرى، وهو موضوعى وله أرضيته وليس مجرد امتداد سببى سلبى لتفريغ لرغبات تم كبتها، فالحلم هو صوت أعمق يقول بكل بساطة للحالم : ما تفعله ليس صحيحا. "أن النفس ليست فريدة وذاتية أو شخصية إلا جوئيا، وهى فى بقية الأجزاء جماعية وموضوعية" . ٠
September 21, 2013
This interesting volume compiles various articles (some based on lectures) that Carl Jung made on the subject of dreams. Some of the discussions include highlighting that dreams are highly personal and as such, symbols/images won't necessarily represent the same thing to everyone. That’s with keeping in mind the fact that there are universal symbols of things, so that imagery is not completely random, but that dreams are basically anything but a simple matter. For these reasons, much of the information is presented through case studies to convey examples of the way symbols and meaning can be derived from context depending on the individual. It also addresses the influence of past experiences upon our current dreams, as the following quote notes: “Our present mental state depends upon our history.� (pg. 4)
In addition, it touches on topics like the meaning of numbers in dreams and the origin of symbols. It was interesting to find that many of these symbols are religious and meaningful—regardless of one being a member of that faith—as well as of archetypal nature (ie: the mandala). I was just as fascinated by the repeated mention of symbols derived from alchemy (ie: the 'temenos', the walled garden and fountain, significance of left vs. right), which was surprising and something I’d never considered.
As expected, some important points were made, such as the fact that a lot of this imagery can’t be made up—and that it would be hard, if not impossible, to prove that one consciously ingrained something in their unconscious (which is illogical if the unconscious can’t ever be truly known, due to its complex nature).
Although mind boggling on different levels (haha), it was mostly a swift read. However, Part 2’s article titled ‘General Aspects of Dream Psychology� was hands-down the most challenging article of all, since it basically looks at dreams from a highly scientific psychological perspective. This is reflected through denser language and terms I’m unfamiliar with, resulting in slower absorption. (For a moment I’d worried that the whole book would be written like that article but thankfully, it’s not the case!) =)
Needless to say, it made for yet another fascinating read on the way our minds work and a reminder that its exploration is worthwhile.
In addition, it touches on topics like the meaning of numbers in dreams and the origin of symbols. It was interesting to find that many of these symbols are religious and meaningful—regardless of one being a member of that faith—as well as of archetypal nature (ie: the mandala). I was just as fascinated by the repeated mention of symbols derived from alchemy (ie: the 'temenos', the walled garden and fountain, significance of left vs. right), which was surprising and something I’d never considered.
As expected, some important points were made, such as the fact that a lot of this imagery can’t be made up—and that it would be hard, if not impossible, to prove that one consciously ingrained something in their unconscious (which is illogical if the unconscious can’t ever be truly known, due to its complex nature).
Although mind boggling on different levels (haha), it was mostly a swift read. However, Part 2’s article titled ‘General Aspects of Dream Psychology� was hands-down the most challenging article of all, since it basically looks at dreams from a highly scientific psychological perspective. This is reflected through denser language and terms I’m unfamiliar with, resulting in slower absorption. (For a moment I’d worried that the whole book would be written like that article but thankfully, it’s not the case!) =)
Needless to say, it made for yet another fascinating read on the way our minds work and a reminder that its exploration is worthwhile.
November 3, 2020
چاپ سوم کتاب و در دست داشتم که سال هشتادوشش توسط انتشارات کاروان منتشر شده. این کتاب در سال نود به نشر قطره منتقل شده و حالا انتشارات قطره چاپ پانزدهم را با ویرایش های اساسی (طبق گفته ی خودشون در صفحه اینستاگرام ) مجددا منتشر کرده است.
کانتکست کتاب شامل چند دفتر از یونگ در مورد ماهیت, درونه‌ها� بن مایه، کارکردها و تفاسیری از رویا است.
یونگ روش ها و نمونه های از تحلیل رویا را بر اساس تجربیات خود ارائه کرده و آنها را با روش های فروید مقایسه میکند.
ای کاش ترجمه و ویراستار کتاب این همه ایراد و اشکال نداشت و خواننده فارسی زبان را از این همه اطلاعات مفید محروم نمی‌کر�.
در هر حال سختی و اشکالات ترجمه به حدی بود که کتاب را تا صفحه شصت بیشتر ادامه ندادم.
اما با کمال میل حاضرم - حتی با وجود کورونا - حضوری به کتابفروشی برم و چاپ پانزدهم را از نزدیک زیارت کنم. اگر واقعا اصلاح شده باشد ارزش خرید را دارد.
کانتکست کتاب شامل چند دفتر از یونگ در مورد ماهیت, درونه‌ها� بن مایه، کارکردها و تفاسیری از رویا است.
یونگ روش ها و نمونه های از تحلیل رویا را بر اساس تجربیات خود ارائه کرده و آنها را با روش های فروید مقایسه میکند.
ای کاش ترجمه و ویراستار کتاب این همه ایراد و اشکال نداشت و خواننده فارسی زبان را از این همه اطلاعات مفید محروم نمی‌کر�.
در هر حال سختی و اشکالات ترجمه به حدی بود که کتاب را تا صفحه شصت بیشتر ادامه ندادم.
اما با کمال میل حاضرم - حتی با وجود کورونا - حضوری به کتابفروشی برم و چاپ پانزدهم را از نزدیک زیارت کنم. اگر واقعا اصلاح شده باشد ارزش خرید را دارد.
January 13, 2014
A bit too old fashioned, with quite a bit of untranslated Greek and Latin. It would have been nice if the editors had added annotations for the benefit of modern readers, most of whom doubtless have not had a classical education. Also, the selections included this book were taken from a much larger work and there are numerous references to Figures (illustrations) from the sections that were not included. The references either should have been removed or the illustrations added in an appendix.
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July 6, 2018خب چیزی دست علاقمند به رویاها رو نمی‌گیر�. اصطلاحاتش برای من خواننده� عادی کاملا گنگ بود و نمی‌فهمید� چی دارم می‌خون� منتها تا ته خوندم که خیالم راحت شه چیزی نفهمیدم :| ترجمه هم بد، بد، خیلی بد.
May 23, 2021
Hayatımda ikinci ya da üçüncü kez kitabı yarım bırakıyorum, belli ki süper birisin fakat ekektrik alamadım affet beni.
April 23, 2020
I had first picked up this book when I was in school. I was fascinated by dreams then. How were they made? What made a dream exactly that dream? What do they mean? In this pursuit, I had started writing down a few of my dreams. But, had the feeling that when I wrote them down, a lot of it's meaning was lost. That's why I picked up this book- to gain more insight into it. But, back then i didn't have the experience of reading research papers that i have now. so i gave up on the book shortly after starting it.
So, when I started reading it again and things started to make sense I thought I was up for an interesting, mind blowing read. Boy, was I wrong! the first few chapters were very insightful and gave me a lot to think about. But as the chapters went on and he started interpreting dreams with Alchemy, I got lost again. I dont think I understood half of what was happening in the last chapter. But whatever I understood was very weird and intriguing. His theories seem to be a little far-fetched. It is so crazy that there might actually be some sense in it.
So, when I started reading it again and things started to make sense I thought I was up for an interesting, mind blowing read. Boy, was I wrong! the first few chapters were very insightful and gave me a lot to think about. But as the chapters went on and he started interpreting dreams with Alchemy, I got lost again. I dont think I understood half of what was happening in the last chapter. But whatever I understood was very weird and intriguing. His theories seem to be a little far-fetched. It is so crazy that there might actually be some sense in it.
November 25, 2019
این کتاب یکی از بهتریت کتاب های روانکاوی رویا است که نظریات فروید را شرح و بسط داده. اما برای فهم آن باید ترم های روانکاوانه را بخوبی دانست و بر آن ها تسلط کامل پیدا کرد.
September 10, 2022
beyefendi siz bilgili birisine benziyosunuz rüyada ejderha sürdüğünü görmenin anlamı nedir?
March 17, 2015
When it comes to Jung's point of view of dream interpretation, a deep understanding of complex topics in psychology isn't necessary; instead, what is required is a strong understanding of the foundational subjects, and a wide knowledge of mythology, culture, comparative religion and the like. This book is not a stand-alone work by Jung, but a collection of works, presented in four sections in this book:
1. Dreams and psychoanalysis - in the first works by Jung in this book, the reader will become familiar with Jung's view on the importance of dream interpretation and his advice on proper approaches to it. To give the reader a holistic understanding of the subject matter Jung gives some basic examples from his clinical experience. A point of comparison is also given by discussing the contributions of the Freudian school on the matter as well as discussions on where the Freudian work has fallen short.
2.Dreams and Psychic Energy - in this presentation of works, Jung talks about the manner in which psychic energy attaches itself to objects in conscious life, and how it is represented in dreams. This, is a further expansion on the section one and didn't really require a section of its own, but for the sake of understanding, I suppose it makes sense.
3. The Practical Use of Dream - the dream analyst has to be aware of transference, counter transference, as well as the questions the dream analyst asks - for the questions already have a portion of the answer prefigured in them. And, ultimately it is not important for the dream analyst to understand the solution, or the answer, but it is only necessary that the person who's dream it is does. It took me a bit to understand this principle, but I remembered something that Nietzsche said in one of his works... and I paraphrase, "if I hold the key to the locks to your chains, then what difference does it make if your locks are different from mine?"
4. Individual Dream Symbolism in Relation to Alchemy - Presents examples of dreams, and instead of providing tools for diagnosing the dreamer, the presentation is such that the dreams are not meant to diagnose the dreamer but are rather aimed at giving the analyst tools for understanding the context of the dreams. Apart from analysis of how psychic energy is expressed in dreams, Jung's analysis of Mandala dreams is also presented. Mandala dreams are those dreams which deal with the center of a person.- again, what is presented are not skeletal structures which one can use to diagnose, but rather tools which one can use to provide a context and understand. This section primarily deals with the principles pertaining to individuation and the synthesis of opposites in the personality of the dreamer.
Part 4 is the most dense section in the book, and the sheer number of ideas presented, in terms of symbols, makes it a slow read but ultimately worth it. I have picked up "psychology and alchemy" by Jung several times and found myself putting it down out of frustration-only to pick it up again later to repeat the cycle. Upon reading this book, I feel as though I am in a better position to understand the material in that book.
1. Dreams and psychoanalysis - in the first works by Jung in this book, the reader will become familiar with Jung's view on the importance of dream interpretation and his advice on proper approaches to it. To give the reader a holistic understanding of the subject matter Jung gives some basic examples from his clinical experience. A point of comparison is also given by discussing the contributions of the Freudian school on the matter as well as discussions on where the Freudian work has fallen short.
2.Dreams and Psychic Energy - in this presentation of works, Jung talks about the manner in which psychic energy attaches itself to objects in conscious life, and how it is represented in dreams. This, is a further expansion on the section one and didn't really require a section of its own, but for the sake of understanding, I suppose it makes sense.
3. The Practical Use of Dream - the dream analyst has to be aware of transference, counter transference, as well as the questions the dream analyst asks - for the questions already have a portion of the answer prefigured in them. And, ultimately it is not important for the dream analyst to understand the solution, or the answer, but it is only necessary that the person who's dream it is does. It took me a bit to understand this principle, but I remembered something that Nietzsche said in one of his works... and I paraphrase, "if I hold the key to the locks to your chains, then what difference does it make if your locks are different from mine?"
4. Individual Dream Symbolism in Relation to Alchemy - Presents examples of dreams, and instead of providing tools for diagnosing the dreamer, the presentation is such that the dreams are not meant to diagnose the dreamer but are rather aimed at giving the analyst tools for understanding the context of the dreams. Apart from analysis of how psychic energy is expressed in dreams, Jung's analysis of Mandala dreams is also presented. Mandala dreams are those dreams which deal with the center of a person.- again, what is presented are not skeletal structures which one can use to diagnose, but rather tools which one can use to provide a context and understand. This section primarily deals with the principles pertaining to individuation and the synthesis of opposites in the personality of the dreamer.
Part 4 is the most dense section in the book, and the sheer number of ideas presented, in terms of symbols, makes it a slow read but ultimately worth it. I have picked up "psychology and alchemy" by Jung several times and found myself putting it down out of frustration-only to pick it up again later to repeat the cycle. Upon reading this book, I feel as though I am in a better position to understand the material in that book.
September 28, 2020
Jung's work is thought-provoking and scintillating to anyone seeking intellectual stimulation. However, I can't in good conscience pretend that I fully grasped what Jung is putting forward throughout much of this book.
'Dreams' is steeped in ambiguous, esoteric prose. The parts that were intelligible, just didn't seem to hold water as credible theories; I often felt that Jung was grasping at straws. There is an intriguing depiction of one of his analysands' dream sequences in the opening chapter which centres on the prevalence of numerology. The conclusion he draws is ostensibly clever at first glance, but a few minutes of deliberation will undoubtedly leave you pondering its implausibility.
Jung's hypotheses, however intriguing, lack cogency and often can be deemed as nothing but conjecture. The theory of a Collective Unconscious for example is an attractive idea, if not only for its originality - it is almost reminiscent of Plato's Theory of Forms. But for me, Jung's repeated attempts to affirm the consistency of mandalas in the dreams he delineates, are just subjective interpretations - his predilection for his own theories are charged with a motive to affix them to the dreams he documents.
I don't know if Jung believes that each and every dream is a product of the Collective Unconscious but he does state early on in the book where his views depart from Freud. having read 'The Interpretation of Dreams' by Sigmund Freud, I have to say the concept of certain dreams being 'wish-fulfillments' bears more credibility to me. Although, like Jung, Freud is susceptible to the same flaw; he is compelled to attribute the dream interpretation to his theoretical biases. The problem, as many have pointed out in critique of Psychoanalysis, is that everything is subjectively channeled through the prism of the psychoanalyst, and therefore, cannot be objectively scrutinised to the same degree as other methodologies.
'Dreams' is steeped in ambiguous, esoteric prose. The parts that were intelligible, just didn't seem to hold water as credible theories; I often felt that Jung was grasping at straws. There is an intriguing depiction of one of his analysands' dream sequences in the opening chapter which centres on the prevalence of numerology. The conclusion he draws is ostensibly clever at first glance, but a few minutes of deliberation will undoubtedly leave you pondering its implausibility.
Jung's hypotheses, however intriguing, lack cogency and often can be deemed as nothing but conjecture. The theory of a Collective Unconscious for example is an attractive idea, if not only for its originality - it is almost reminiscent of Plato's Theory of Forms. But for me, Jung's repeated attempts to affirm the consistency of mandalas in the dreams he delineates, are just subjective interpretations - his predilection for his own theories are charged with a motive to affix them to the dreams he documents.
I don't know if Jung believes that each and every dream is a product of the Collective Unconscious but he does state early on in the book where his views depart from Freud. having read 'The Interpretation of Dreams' by Sigmund Freud, I have to say the concept of certain dreams being 'wish-fulfillments' bears more credibility to me. Although, like Jung, Freud is susceptible to the same flaw; he is compelled to attribute the dream interpretation to his theoretical biases. The problem, as many have pointed out in critique of Psychoanalysis, is that everything is subjectively channeled through the prism of the psychoanalyst, and therefore, cannot be objectively scrutinised to the same degree as other methodologies.
April 19, 2019
Freud’dan edindiği birkaç tekerleme ile psikanaliz sahnesine atlayan Jung’un tüm kariyeri boyunca olduğu gibi bu kitabında da düştüğü mistisizm bataklığındaki çırpınışlarını görüyoruz. Jung, bilimsellikten birkaç ışık yılı uzaklıktaki bu kitabında bir kez daha papaz babası ve papaz amcalarından kalan metafizik mirasın ekmeğini yemeye çalışıyor. Tanrılara ve cinlere düşkün yığınların ona bu konuda yardımcı oldukları apaçık.
Bir puan, daha azının verilmesi mümkün olmadığı İçin verildi. Bir daha Jung’un herhangi bir kitabını ancak bunu yapmam için kafama silah dayayan kişiye okurum.
Bir puan, daha azının verilmesi mümkün olmadığı İçin verildi. Bir daha Jung’un herhangi bir kitabını ancak bunu yapmam için kafama silah dayayan kişiye okurum.
December 5, 2021
كتاب الأحلام - ك.يونغ
بداية يجب ان اشيد بالترجمة الممتازه للمترجم محمود الهاشمي
فهناك مصطلحات علمية قد يسيء بعض المترجمين نقلها مما يبعد الفكرة عن معناها التي أرادها لها الكاتب .
الكتاب اكاديمي اكثر وقد يهم المتخصصين او المهتمين بالتحليل النفسي اكثر من القاريء العام ..الا ان اسلوب الكتاب ولغته بدت لي سهلة الهضم ..والكتاب مليء بالأمثلة لأحلام مع شرح مبسط يمكن القاريء من فهم كثير من الافكار المذكوره به .
اخيرا هل انصح بالكتاب ؟
اعتقد ان الكتاب نافع للمهتمين بالتحليل النفسي والأحلام .. الا ان حجمه كبير نسبيا ..
3/5 للكتاب
5/5 للترجمة
بداية يجب ان اشيد بالترجمة الممتازه للمترجم محمود الهاشمي
فهناك مصطلحات علمية قد يسيء بعض المترجمين نقلها مما يبعد الفكرة عن معناها التي أرادها لها الكاتب .
الكتاب اكاديمي اكثر وقد يهم المتخصصين او المهتمين بالتحليل النفسي اكثر من القاريء العام ..الا ان اسلوب الكتاب ولغته بدت لي سهلة الهضم ..والكتاب مليء بالأمثلة لأحلام مع شرح مبسط يمكن القاريء من فهم كثير من الافكار المذكوره به .
اخيرا هل انصح بالكتاب ؟
اعتقد ان الكتاب نافع للمهتمين بالتحليل النفسي والأحلام .. الا ان حجمه كبير نسبيا ..
3/5 للكتاب
5/5 للترجمة
April 24, 2015
Det blir for sjukt. Mandalasdrømmer, det kollektive ubevisste og det kvinnelige + mannlige aspektet i alle mennesker. Intet av dette er etterprøvbart, og når argumentene for saken er alkymi og annet fra middelalderen og før den tid blir det lite troverdig
July 27, 2019
There is a deep world seething, and Jung sees it with so much intensity that he might convince us to live in it.
July 28, 2024
The idea that consciousness is a freak of nature is somehow difficult to digest...(82)
...the significance of the unconscious in the total performance of the psyche is probably just as great as that of consciousness. (40)
What is the purpose of this dream? What effect is it meant to have? (29)
Here the question might certainly be asked: of what use is this to the dreamer if he does not understand the dream? To this I must remark that understanding is not an exclusively intellectual process for, as experience shows, a man may be influenced, and indeed convinced in the most effective way, by innumerable things of which he has no intellectual understanding. (30)
Dreams, then, convey to us in figurative language—that is, in sensuous, concrete imagery—thoughts, judgments, views, directives, tendencies, which were unconscious either because of repression or through mere lack of realization. Precisely because they are contents of the unconscious, and the dream is a derivative of unconscious processes, it contains a reflection of the unconscious contents. It is not a reflection of unconscious contents in general but only of certain contents, which are linked together associatively and are selected by the conscious situation of the moment. I regard this observation as a very important one in practice. If we want to interpret a dream correctly, we need a thorough knowledge of the conscious situation at that moment, because the dream contains its unconscious complement, that is, the material which the conscious situation has constellated in the unconscious. Without this knowledge it is impossible to interpret a dream correctly, except by a lucky fluke. (34)
...the dream is a spontaneous self-portrayal, in symbolic form, of the actual situation in the unconscious. (49)
[Dreams] illuminate the patient's situation in a way that can be exceedingly beneficial to health. They bring him memories, insights, experiences, awaken dormant qualities in the personality, and reveal the unconscious element in his relationships. So it seldom happens that anyone who has taken the trouble to work over his dreams with qualified assistance for a longer period of time remains without enrichment and a broadening of his mental horizon. (75)
Not all dreams are of equal importance. Even primitives distinguish between "little" and "big" dreams, or, as we might say, "insignificant" and "significant dreams." Looked at more closely, "little" dreams are the nightly fragments of fantasy coming from the subjective and personal sphere, and their meaning is limited to the affairs of everyday. That is why such dreams are easily forgotten, just because their validity is restricted to the day-to-day fluctuations of the psychic balance. Significant dreams, on the other hand, are often remembered for a lifetime, and not infrequently prove to be the richest jewel in the treasure-house of psychic experience. (76)
...the dream may either repudiate the dreamer in a most painful way, or bolster him up morally. The first is likely to happen to people who... have too good an opinion of themselves; the second to those whose self-valuation is too low. Occasionally, however, the arrogant person is not simply humiliated in the dream, but is raised to an altogether improbable and absurd eminence, while the all-too-humble individual is just as improbably degraded, in order to "rub it in..." (82)
...something of the utmost importance for the applicability of dream-analysis: the dream describes the inner situation of the dreamer, but the conscious mind denies its truth and reality, or admits it only grudgingly. (90)
The unconscious is an autonomous psychic entity; any efforts to drill it are only apparently successful, and moreover are harmful to consciousness. It is and remains beyond the reach of subjective arbitrary control, in a realm where nature and her secrets can be neither improved upon nor perverted, where we can listen but may not meddle. (120)
Our life is spent in struggles for the realization of our wishes: all our actions proceed from the wish that something should or should not come to pass. It is for this that we work, for this we think. If we cannot fulfill a wish in reality, we realize it at least in fantasy. (5)
...the significance of the unconscious in the total performance of the psyche is probably just as great as that of consciousness. (40)
What is the purpose of this dream? What effect is it meant to have? (29)
Here the question might certainly be asked: of what use is this to the dreamer if he does not understand the dream? To this I must remark that understanding is not an exclusively intellectual process for, as experience shows, a man may be influenced, and indeed convinced in the most effective way, by innumerable things of which he has no intellectual understanding. (30)
Dreams, then, convey to us in figurative language—that is, in sensuous, concrete imagery—thoughts, judgments, views, directives, tendencies, which were unconscious either because of repression or through mere lack of realization. Precisely because they are contents of the unconscious, and the dream is a derivative of unconscious processes, it contains a reflection of the unconscious contents. It is not a reflection of unconscious contents in general but only of certain contents, which are linked together associatively and are selected by the conscious situation of the moment. I regard this observation as a very important one in practice. If we want to interpret a dream correctly, we need a thorough knowledge of the conscious situation at that moment, because the dream contains its unconscious complement, that is, the material which the conscious situation has constellated in the unconscious. Without this knowledge it is impossible to interpret a dream correctly, except by a lucky fluke. (34)
...the dream is a spontaneous self-portrayal, in symbolic form, of the actual situation in the unconscious. (49)
[Dreams] illuminate the patient's situation in a way that can be exceedingly beneficial to health. They bring him memories, insights, experiences, awaken dormant qualities in the personality, and reveal the unconscious element in his relationships. So it seldom happens that anyone who has taken the trouble to work over his dreams with qualified assistance for a longer period of time remains without enrichment and a broadening of his mental horizon. (75)
Not all dreams are of equal importance. Even primitives distinguish between "little" and "big" dreams, or, as we might say, "insignificant" and "significant dreams." Looked at more closely, "little" dreams are the nightly fragments of fantasy coming from the subjective and personal sphere, and their meaning is limited to the affairs of everyday. That is why such dreams are easily forgotten, just because their validity is restricted to the day-to-day fluctuations of the psychic balance. Significant dreams, on the other hand, are often remembered for a lifetime, and not infrequently prove to be the richest jewel in the treasure-house of psychic experience. (76)
...the dream may either repudiate the dreamer in a most painful way, or bolster him up morally. The first is likely to happen to people who... have too good an opinion of themselves; the second to those whose self-valuation is too low. Occasionally, however, the arrogant person is not simply humiliated in the dream, but is raised to an altogether improbable and absurd eminence, while the all-too-humble individual is just as improbably degraded, in order to "rub it in..." (82)
...something of the utmost importance for the applicability of dream-analysis: the dream describes the inner situation of the dreamer, but the conscious mind denies its truth and reality, or admits it only grudgingly. (90)
The unconscious is an autonomous psychic entity; any efforts to drill it are only apparently successful, and moreover are harmful to consciousness. It is and remains beyond the reach of subjective arbitrary control, in a realm where nature and her secrets can be neither improved upon nor perverted, where we can listen but may not meddle. (120)
Our life is spent in struggles for the realization of our wishes: all our actions proceed from the wish that something should or should not come to pass. It is for this that we work, for this we think. If we cannot fulfill a wish in reality, we realize it at least in fantasy. (5)
October 5, 2020
De concepten die in dit ogenschijnlijk onschuldige boek worden beschrijven kwamen mij uiterst verrijkend en verruimend over. Dit boek was wel een stuk taaier dan ik had geanticipeerd.
Het gaat over hoe het onbewuste, en specifiek de droom, her bewuste compenseert en op diens eigen manier de dromer diens onderliggende verhouding met de werkelijkheid laten aanschouwen, alhoewel dat het geoefende oog van de interpreteur or persoon vereist om die inzichten ook te verwerven!
Ik werk sinds 2 jaar met diepte-psychologie, achetypes en het onbewuste, maar heb nog weinig Jung zelf gelezen, daar ik Neo-Jungiaans geschoold ben. Dit was mijn tweede boek, na Dromen, Herinneringen en Gedachten (deels audiobook en de rest vervolg ik deze week), en mijn eerste complete lezing van Jung van begin tot eind.
Mijn inzicht en natuurlijk intuïtie over de werking van het onbewuste en diens compenserende manifestaties in dromen, fantasieën en projecties voelt magistraal verrijkt met deze begrippen en fenomenen. Uiterst leervol voor mij als therapeut en coach.
Het lijkt erop alsof Jung uiterst simpele, naar mijn idee voor de hand liggende fenomenen, met uiterst zware taal bewoordt. Ik heb herhaaldelijk een zin overnieuw moeten lezen om hem echt tot me door te laten dringen. Vaak kwam ik erachter dat het moeilijker leek dan dat het daadwerkelijk was, en ik het mezelf moeilijk maakte door te complex te denken.
Ik heb de tip gewoon een aantal zinnen door te lezen, om te bevestigen dat je eigen conclusie of interpretatie toch juist blijkt.
Zou ik dit boek aanraden aan anderen? Dat kan ik momenteel lastig zeggen, omdat ik eigenlijk niet bekend ben met de rest van Carl Jung's eigen werk en daarom geen vergelijking heb. Het lijkt me desalniettemin een goede inleiding tot dromen en diens functie voor het onbewuste. Maar waakt u er wel voor dat dit dusdanig complexe zaken zijn dat ik enige voorkennis aanraad.
Het gaat over hoe het onbewuste, en specifiek de droom, her bewuste compenseert en op diens eigen manier de dromer diens onderliggende verhouding met de werkelijkheid laten aanschouwen, alhoewel dat het geoefende oog van de interpreteur or persoon vereist om die inzichten ook te verwerven!
Ik werk sinds 2 jaar met diepte-psychologie, achetypes en het onbewuste, maar heb nog weinig Jung zelf gelezen, daar ik Neo-Jungiaans geschoold ben. Dit was mijn tweede boek, na Dromen, Herinneringen en Gedachten (deels audiobook en de rest vervolg ik deze week), en mijn eerste complete lezing van Jung van begin tot eind.
Mijn inzicht en natuurlijk intuïtie over de werking van het onbewuste en diens compenserende manifestaties in dromen, fantasieën en projecties voelt magistraal verrijkt met deze begrippen en fenomenen. Uiterst leervol voor mij als therapeut en coach.
Het lijkt erop alsof Jung uiterst simpele, naar mijn idee voor de hand liggende fenomenen, met uiterst zware taal bewoordt. Ik heb herhaaldelijk een zin overnieuw moeten lezen om hem echt tot me door te laten dringen. Vaak kwam ik erachter dat het moeilijker leek dan dat het daadwerkelijk was, en ik het mezelf moeilijk maakte door te complex te denken.
Ik heb de tip gewoon een aantal zinnen door te lezen, om te bevestigen dat je eigen conclusie of interpretatie toch juist blijkt.
Zou ik dit boek aanraden aan anderen? Dat kan ik momenteel lastig zeggen, omdat ik eigenlijk niet bekend ben met de rest van Carl Jung's eigen werk en daarom geen vergelijking heb. Het lijkt me desalniettemin een goede inleiding tot dromen en diens functie voor het onbewuste. Maar waakt u er wel voor dat dit dusdanig complexe zaken zijn dat ik enige voorkennis aanraad.
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