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I haven't read much erotica in my life; I've read many high steam I'm not going to rate this book because I don't think it would be fair to the book.
I haven't read much erotica in my life; I've read many high steam (aka lots of sex) romance novels, but not erotica. I would classify this as erotica rather than romance (although I suppose people could argue about it), and if most erotica is like this, the genre isn't for me. I'm not giving this a rating because I don't think there is anything wrong with erotica and I think people should read what they like, but I'm not even sure it's safe to say I "read" this book given the amount of skimming I did. I was bored, bored, bored. There's only so much space in any given book, and the more space you give to sex scenes, the less you have for other scenes. Because so much of this book was taken up by sex scenes, a lot (most?) of what I really enjoy in a story was absent. And I'm not bashing this by any means: it's just not for me. I might consider reading more erotica in the future to see if it works for me, but maybe not.
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I'm not going to rate this book because I don't think it would be fair to the book.
I haven't read much erotica in my life; I've read many high steam (aka lots of sex) romance novels, but not erotica. I would classify this as erotica rather than romance (although I suppose people could argue about it), and if most erotica is like this, the genre isn't for me. I'm not giving this a rating because I don't think there is anything wrong with erotica and I think people should read what they like, but I'm not even sure it's safe to say I "read" this book given the amount of skimming I did. I was bored, bored, bored. There's only so much space in any given book, and the more space you give to sex scenes, the less you have for other scenes. Because so much of this book was taken up by sex scenes, a lot (most?) of what I really enjoy in a story was absent. And I'm not bashing this by any means: it's just not for me. I might consider reading more erotica in the future to see if it works for me, but maybe not....more
I'm waffling on whether to give this book 4 stars or 5 stars, but I'm going with 5 stars even though I thought it had some issues.
First, this book is I'm waffling on whether to give this book 4 stars or 5 stars, but I'm going with 5 stars even though I thought it had some issues.
First, this book is significantly sadder than the previous two books, so be ready for that. Not everyone who starts the book makes it to the end. I don't like this in a book (I'm a big marshmallow), so this detracted from my personal enjoyment of the book, but I understand that this doesn't actually make a book bad (there's a reason Game of Thrones is such a hit).
Second, Colton changes a lot as a character throughout the book, and I don't think that this was addressed enough in how much this would impact his relationship with Danny. In a very real way, how much he was the same as a person was questionable. I actually liked Colton a lot better in this book than I did in the first book, but I didn't fall in love with Colton in the first book. If I had my feelings about Colton in the third book might not have been so positive.
I continued to really enjoy the world building. It felt very immersive, original, organic, and in-depth. I also felt like the characters were pretty realistic in their motivations. They were unfailingly altruistic or good or evil. There was a mix.
I didn't understand the thing being thrown in at the end with (major spoiler here) (view spoiler)[Colton coming back with his memory wiped only to regain it almost instantly (hide spoiler)] though. What was the point of that? If it was going to happen, why happen for such a short period? Why would (view spoiler)[the god of time send Colton back with no memory if he was also going to give a way to restore it instantly but that way was completely random, and there was no way for anyone to know about it? (hide spoiler)]. I was baffled.
But I really did enjoy the book a lot. Given that I was looking forward to it as much as I was, there was a lot of danger that my high expectations would make it unable to live up to those expectations. However, I still enjoyed it immensely.
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I'm waffling on whether to give this book 4 stars or 5 stars, but I'm going with 5 stars even though I thought it had some issues.
First, this book is significantly sadder than the previous two books, so be ready for that. Not everyone who starts the book makes it to the end. I don't like this in a book (I'm a big marshmallow), so this detracted from my personal enjoyment of the book, but I understand that this doesn't actually make a book bad (there's a reason Game of Thrones is such a hit).
Second, Colton changes a lot as a character throughout the book, and I don't think that this was addressed enough in how much this would impact his relationship with Danny. In a very real way, how much he was the same as a person was questionable. I actually liked Colton a lot better in this book than I did in the first book, but I didn't fall in love with Colton in the first book. If I had my feelings about Colton in the third book might not have been so positive.
I continued to really enjoy the world building. It felt very immersive, original, organic, and in-depth. I also felt like the characters were pretty realistic in their motivations. They were unfailingly altruistic or good or evil. There was a mix.
I didn't understand the thing being thrown in at the end with (major spoiler here) (view spoiler)[Colton coming back with his memory wiped only to regain it almost instantly (hide spoiler)] though. What was the point of that? If it was going to happen, why happen for such a short period? Why would (view spoiler)[the god of time send Colton back with no memory if he was also going to give a way to restore it instantly but that way was completely random, and there was no way for anyone to know about it? (hide spoiler)]. I was baffled.
But I really did enjoy the book a lot. Given that I was looking forward to it as much as I was, there was a lot of danger that my high expectations would make it unable to live up to those expectations. However, I still enjoyed it immensely....more
Usually, I absolutely adore Hawk's work (the Whyborne & Griffin series is one of my favorite series of all time), but this particular book left me feeUsually, I absolutely adore Hawk's work (the Whyborne & Griffin series is one of my favorite series of all time), but this particular book left me feeling very, "Meh."
I think a lot of it is me. I've gotten to a stage in my reading where the whole, "I want to have sex, and you look like a pretty reasonable option," premise is actually a detraction. I don't dislike all books that do this, and if this is what people want to do (either in fiction or real life), that's certainly fine, but I myself don't particularly enjoy reading about it. I like for some manner of positive feelings (either romance or friendship) to come first. The characters certainly don't have to be Committed For The Rest of Their Lives before hopping into bed, but this, "Hey, we just met, and I don't know anything about you, but I'm horny so lets boink," isn't my cup of tea.
Now, books can and do recover from this for me. I don't enjoy the above, but neither is it a massive dislike for me. It is something to overcome, but it can be and often is overcome. The problem with this book is that it didn't. I never really understood what it was that the MCs liked about each other, other than their desire to boink. They only had an incredibly short time (as in, time that passed in the book) to get to know one another, and most of that time was spent on other plot things. This was understandable given the short length of the book, but I was left not feeling their relationship. I feel like I got a reasonable understanding of the characters as individuals, but why they would be drawn to each other romantically didn't connect with me. I did understand their desire to have a sexual relationship, but romantic? No.
But I did feel like the characters were very well crafted, which doesn't always happen in shorter books. That was very positive.
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Usually, I absolutely adore Hawk's work (the Whyborne & Griffin series is one of my favorite series of all time), but this particular book left me feeling very, "Meh."
I think a lot of it is me. I've gotten to a stage in my reading where the whole, "I want to have sex, and you look like a pretty reasonable option," premise is actually a detraction. I don't dislike all books that do this, and if this is what people want to do (either in fiction or real life), that's certainly fine, but I myself don't particularly enjoy reading about it. I like for some manner of positive feelings (either romance or friendship) to come first. The characters certainly don't have to be Committed For The Rest of Their Lives before hopping into bed, but this, "Hey, we just met, and I don't know anything about you, but I'm horny so lets boink," isn't my cup of tea.
Now, books can and do recover from this for me. I don't enjoy the above, but neither is it a massive dislike for me. It is something to overcome, but it can be and often is overcome. The problem with this book is that it didn't. I never really understood what it was that the MCs liked about each other, other than their desire to boink. They only had an incredibly short time (as in, time that passed in the book) to get to know one another, and most of that time was spent on other plot things. This was understandable given the short length of the book, but I was left not feeling their relationship. I feel like I got a reasonable understanding of the characters as individuals, but why they would be drawn to each other romantically didn't connect with me. I did understand their desire to have a sexual relationship, but romantic? No.
But I did feel like the characters were very well crafted, which doesn't always happen in shorter books. That was very positive....more
I'm going to be honest: I absolutely skipped the sex scenes in this because, well, shark/orca/fish. Maybe Hawk managed to de-emphasize anything to do I'm going to be honest: I absolutely skipped the sex scenes in this because, well, shark/orca/fish. Maybe Hawk managed to de-emphasize anything to do with the shark/orca/fish factor to a degree that I could have tolerated it, but all of that is so central to Persephone that I'm not sure how that could be done. So, skip, skip, skip for me.
That being said, I was so ecstatic to see Miss Parkhurst finally getting her own special happiness after seeing her affections for our beloved Whyborne go so spectacularly astray. I've always liked Maggie and felt sad that she was so totally getting the short end of the stick when she was being so earnest (and Whyborne, you are very thick). I also loved to see her come into herself and her own abilities and self-confidence. AND it was fun to see some of what's going on in Widdershins from a little less of the Center Stage perspective.
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I'm going to be honest: I absolutely skipped the sex scenes in this because, well, shark/orca/fish. Maybe Hawk managed to de-emphasize anything to do with the shark/orca/fish factor to a degree that I could have tolerated it, but all of that is so central to Persephone that I'm not sure how that could be done. So, skip, skip, skip for me.
That being said, I was so ecstatic to see Miss Parkhurst finally getting her own special happiness after seeing her affections for our beloved Whyborne go so spectacularly astray. I've always liked Maggie and felt sad that she was so totally getting the short end of the stick when she was being so earnest (and Whyborne, you are very thick). I also loved to see her come into herself and her own abilities and self-confidence. AND it was fun to see some of what's going on in Widdershins from a little less of the Center Stage perspective....more
This book was probably my favorite book in the series.
First, you so badly need to have read the books in the Supernatural Selectin series. With the oThis book was probably my favorite book in the series.
First, you so badly need to have read the books in the Supernatural Selectin series. With the other two books, maybe you could get by if you didn't care too much about there being references that you didn't really get, but with this book, I don't think it's feasible. There are just too many characters from the other books with too much backstory and too many events from those books that events in this book depend on that I don't know how you'd get by. I read those other books, and I had some trouble because I read the Fae Out of Water series long enough ago that it wasn't really fresh. So be warned.
That being said, Zeke was my cute sweet fluffy pie, and I adored him. I wanted to give him all the cuddles. I rooted for him so hard. Hamish was nice, too, but Zeke was my superstar.
There were some eye-roll worthy parts (especially towards the end), but I think that's par for the course with this series. I just endured it and focused on my adoration for Zeke.
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This book was probably my favorite book in the series.
First, you so badly need to have read the books in the Supernatural Selectin series. With the other two books, maybe you could get by if you didn't care too much about there being references that you didn't really get, but with this book, I don't think it's feasible. There are just too many characters from the other books with too much backstory and too many events from those books that events in this book depend on that I don't know how you'd get by. I read those other books, and I had some trouble because I read the Fae Out of Water series long enough ago that it wasn't really fresh. So be warned.
That being said, Zeke was my cute sweet fluffy pie, and I adored him. I wanted to give him all the cuddles. I rooted for him so hard. Hamish was nice, too, but Zeke was my superstar.
There were some eye-roll worthy parts (especially towards the end), but I think that's par for the course with this series. I just endured it and focused on my adoration for Zeke....more
This was a pretty solid little story, but it just wasn't my genre. I knew it might not be (the author warns somewhere that people who have read--and pThis was a pretty solid little story, but it just wasn't my genre. I knew it might not be (the author warns somewhere that people who have read--and possibly enjoy--The Prisoner of Zenda are more likely to enjoy this book, and I have done neither), but I was willing to take the chance. Alas, it just wasn't for me. I didn't like most of the character (or maybe mostly didn't like the characters?) and found chunks of the text confusing. I probably could have worked it out if I'd been willing to reread the text in question, but I didn't care enough, so I just kept going. I think I still got the general plot and didn't miss the overarching theme even though there were parts where I didn't know what the characters were doing (because I was confused), but it's very possible I missed something.
The romance felt pretty spotty to me, too, even at the end. That isn't to say that there aren't real relationships that end up working something like this (there absolutely are...well, I'm not talking about the more fantastical elements, but hopefully you get what I'm referring to if you've read the book (view spoiler)[I mean the whole breaking up, spending time apart, being with other people, coming back together, no "I love you"s, etc (hide spoiler)]) but it's not not what I'm looking for in a romance. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it, it's just not my cup of tea, which is fine.
I did like the whole, "Story from another perspective," aspect, though. That's always very appealing to me.
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This was a pretty solid little story, but it just wasn't my genre. I knew it might not be (the author warns somewhere that people who have read--and possibly enjoy--The Prisoner of Zenda are more likely to enjoy this book, and I have done neither), but I was willing to take the chance. Alas, it just wasn't for me. I didn't like most of the character (or maybe mostly didn't like the characters?) and found chunks of the text confusing. I probably could have worked it out if I'd been willing to reread the text in question, but I didn't care enough, so I just kept going. I think I still got the general plot and didn't miss the overarching theme even though there were parts where I didn't know what the characters were doing (because I was confused), but it's very possible I missed something.
The romance felt pretty spotty to me, too, even at the end. That isn't to say that there aren't real relationships that end up working something like this (there absolutely are...well, I'm not talking about the more fantastical elements, but hopefully you get what I'm referring to if you've read the book (view spoiler)[I mean the whole breaking up, spending time apart, being with other people, coming back together, no "I love you"s, etc (hide spoiler)]) but it's not not what I'm looking for in a romance. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it, it's just not my cup of tea, which is fine.
I did like the whole, "Story from another perspective," aspect, though. That's always very appealing to me....more
Out of the gate I had high expectations for this book because it had some pretty impressive recommendations. I was all, "Yes! Let's see what all the fOut of the gate I had high expectations for this book because it had some pretty impressive recommendations. I was all, "Yes! Let's see what all the fuss is about!"
And then I got started, and I said, "Oh. Oh no. I'm not feeling this book at all. This is going to be one of those, 'Hahah, sorry everyone, I know you loved it deeply, but I totally didn't, please don't murder me in my sleep, yeah?' books isn't it?"
But then it got better. I think it was about 41% when I was like, "OMG I FINALLY SEE WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT!" (you might see it sooner, I'm slow on the uptake). The story really took a turn from where I thought it was headed then, and I loved it. If you'd explained to me what was going to happen, I wouldn't have thought I would love it, either, but I totally did (no spoilers for you!).
I also loved the differences in cultures. Those felt very real and not just cosmetic. It wasn't just, "Oh, we wear slightly different clothes," but that there were actual differences in how they operated on a basic level. I very much appreciated that. I also very much enjoyed the way that the cultures adapted over time due to the changes in circumstance.
A very good read.
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Out of the gate I had high expectations for this book because it had some pretty impressive recommendations. I was all, "Yes! Let's see what all the fuss is about!"
And then I got started, and I said, "Oh. Oh no. I'm not feeling this book at all. This is going to be one of those, 'Hahah, sorry everyone, I know you loved it deeply, but I totally didn't, please don't murder me in my sleep, yeah?' books isn't it?"
But then it got better. I think it was about 41% when I was like, "OMG I FINALLY SEE WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT!" (you might see it sooner, I'm slow on the uptake). The story really took a turn from where I thought it was headed then, and I loved it. If you'd explained to me what was going to happen, I wouldn't have thought I would love it, either, but I totally did (no spoilers for you!).
I also loved the differences in cultures. Those felt very real and not just cosmetic. It wasn't just, "Oh, we wear slightly different clothes," but that there were actual differences in how they operated on a basic level. I very much appreciated that. I also very much enjoyed the way that the cultures adapted over time due to the changes in circumstance.
I think Angel Martinez has managed to wiggle her way into my "favorites" list, which is always pleasant. I've enjoyed her work for a while (although II think Angel Martinez has managed to wiggle her way into my "favorites" list, which is always pleasant. I've enjoyed her work for a while (although I've had some trouble getting ahold of some of it) and this is the last addition to the "wow, I really, really like it" list.
For the most part, it would be hard for me to explain why I enjoyed the book so much. The world-building was fantastic and mesmerizing, the characters were relatable, real, flawed, and lovable, and the plot was engaging. I really want there to be a followup book and I'm going to see if I can grab more of Martinez's books (although, as I said, some of her books are hard to track down).
I do wish there had been significant women in characters in this book, though. The lack made me sad.
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I think Angel Martinez has managed to wiggle her way into my "favorites" list, which is always pleasant. I've enjoyed her work for a while (although I've had some trouble getting ahold of some of it) and this is the last addition to the "wow, I really, really like it" list.
For the most part, it would be hard for me to explain why I enjoyed the book so much. The world-building was fantastic and mesmerizing, the characters were relatable, real, flawed, and lovable, and the plot was engaging. I really want there to be a followup book and I'm going to see if I can grab more of Martinez's books (although, as I said, some of her books are hard to track down).
I do wish there had been significant women in characters in this book, though. The lack made me sad....more
This is the second book in "The Christmas Angel" series that I read (the authors seem to have decided to all pick how they wanted to make the books avThis is the second book in "The Christmas Angel" series that I read (the authors seem to have decided to all pick how they wanted to make the books available separately, and not all of them made them available the same way so I'm having trouble getting a hold of some of them; my library can't get some of them, and some of them aren't on Kindle Unlimited), and it was okay. I didn't really feel much of a kick in it, but it also wasn't bad. I just didn't feel it. The characters and their story didn't move it. Usually with short stories or shorter stories I say part of the problem is the length (when I found out this story was on the shorter side, I was worried about that), but to be honest I'm not sure making it longer would have helped in this case. Usually with short stories I'm frustrated because I want to read more, more details, more plot, more development, and in this case I just didn't care. I coasted through the book fine (it wasn't difficult to read), but nothing about it meant anything to me. I was well ready to be finished with it when the story was done.
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This is the second book in "The Christmas Angel" series that I read (the authors seem to have decided to all pick how they wanted to make the books available separately, and not all of them made them available the same way so I'm having trouble getting a hold of some of them; my library can't get some of them, and some of them aren't on Kindle Unlimited), and it was okay. I didn't really feel much of a kick in it, but it also wasn't bad. I just didn't feel it. The characters and their story didn't move it. Usually with short stories or shorter stories I say part of the problem is the length (when I found out this story was on the shorter side, I was worried about that), but to be honest I'm not sure making it longer would have helped in this case. Usually with short stories I'm frustrated because I want to read more, more details, more plot, more development, and in this case I just didn't care. I coasted through the book fine (it wasn't difficult to read), but nothing about it meant anything to me. I was well ready to be finished with it when the story was done....more
I'm going to be honest: finishing this book was almost certainly a mistake. I was so, so bored with the story. There was no real connection between thI'm going to be honest: finishing this book was almost certainly a mistake. I was so, so bored with the story. There was no real connection between the characters, I didn't understand the point to a lot of it (why, really, did the author feel driven to have the MCs meet the way they did if it wasn't going to be developed in any real way? even bakery plot point felt underdeveloped). The book didn't really get into anything and I found myself not caring. I think I only got as far as I did because I was involved in some real-life stuff, so I'd get through a chunk, forget I didn't care, get through another chunk, forget I didn't care again, with this cycling until I was so far into the book that I just decided to finish it because I was so close to the end.
I see that this is the first book in a series, and the second book sounds reasonable, but God, I didn't like this book at all. I don't know if I'll try it.
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I'm going to be honest: finishing this book was almost certainly a mistake. I was so, so bored with the story. There was no real connection between the characters, I didn't understand the point to a lot of it (why, really, did the author feel driven to have the MCs meet the way they did if it wasn't going to be developed in any real way? even bakery plot point felt underdeveloped). The book didn't really get into anything and I found myself not caring. I think I only got as far as I did because I was involved in some real-life stuff, so I'd get through a chunk, forget I didn't care, get through another chunk, forget I didn't care again, with this cycling until I was so far into the book that I just decided to finish it because I was so close to the end.
I see that this is the first book in a series, and the second book sounds reasonable, but God, I didn't like this book at all. I don't know if I'll try it....more
I'm going to start this review with a disclaimer that I liked this book and intend to read the next one in the series, but if others don't/didn't likeI'm going to start this review with a disclaimer that I liked this book and intend to read the next one in the series, but if others don't/didn't like it, I would completely understand, and I don't know that I would necessarily recommend it to most people.
The relationship in this book is unbelievably dysfunctional. I didn't realize who wrote this when I started it and probably wouldn't have given it a chance if I had because, well, that's typical for this author's books. Ian behaved terribly, and I don't think it would be reasonable to make attempts to defend his actions (although that didn't stop Nate).
I liked the magic system, although we got very limited information on it. Because the worldbuilding was so light (including regarding Nate's magic), I expected the sequel to be about the same MCs (Nate and Ian) where more would be explained about how magic worked in regards to the MCs. However, it looks like the focus is shifting to different MCs (although it's very possible that the MCs from this book will make appearances).
We didn't see much of the world, so I don't feel comfortable critiquing the worldbuilding. The story is confined to a very limited area, history/society isn't really discussed, and what we see of the world seems very similar to our own other than the magic. Still, I don't know if that's actually the case.
Nevertheless, I liked Nate (not so much Ian) and the story. I'm going to give the next book a try....more
This was a perfectly readable book, but nothing exciting. One of the things that I'm not sure how to do, though, is writing a review on it without spoThis was a perfectly readable book, but nothing exciting. One of the things that I'm not sure how to do, though, is writing a review on it without spoiling things that I figured out before I even oped the book (ahh, common tropes) but aren't actually in the blurb.
So, I guess I'll say that I didn't really like Philip. I didn't really dislike him, but he was more of a doormat than pleased me, and I kept wanting to tell him throughout the book that people shouldn't be treating him the way they were. Even if for some reason he absolutely could not get it to stop (the degree to which this could be argued varied depending on the situation) he had the right to mentally think, "This is not okay, if I see a chance to get out of this situation, I will take it." But, as I said, he was more of a doormat than I liked.
As for our Love Interest (LI), I rather liked him (and here I just can't avoid spoilers that, once again, I figured out before I opened the book, but aren't in the blurb, so others might not) (view spoiler)[because he felt more non-human (at least for chunks of the book) than often happens in these types of books. I don't think it has to be written this way, but I enjoyed seeing it play out like this. (hide spoiler)]
The sex was interesting. I liked the way it was done because I felt it departed from familiar tropes (in a way that fit in with the LI spoiler above). However, there did feel like there was a lot of it to me (a matter of taste), and sometimes when it happened, I was sitting there thinking, "You know, given what else is going on, the mood disconnect is really weird." Sometimes it felt like the main plot stopped, the characters had sex in a compartmentalized world, and then the plot started again. It was odd.
I did like the overall plot, although there wasn't enough space to get to know the world very well. I thought it was an interesting idea and, if I'd liked Philip more, I probably would have liked the book more. ...more
This absolutely is not a stand-alone book at all and you must have read the previous two books in order to understand this book at all. Some books in This absolutely is not a stand-alone book at all and you must have read the previous two books in order to understand this book at all. Some books in a series you can get away with skipping a book, this series you absolutely cannot. Be aware of that.
I really liked this series because it often didn't do what I expected. As a whole, I didn't feel like, "Yes, I am someone who has read fantasy a lot, I know where this story is going already." This book didn't feel quite as twisty and unexpected as the previous two, but it was still lots of fun. I'm sad to see Sairis and Roland go; I'll miss them and I'm actually going to push myself to read A.H. Lee's MMF series (The Incubus series) which I don't usually dip into. Fingers crossed!
I really liked to watch both Roland and Sairis change throughout the books, both as they interacted with each other (and their varying moral stances, lived experiences, places in society, and ways of interacting with the world) and as they had other interactions external to each other. Getting to know them, and watching them getting to know each other and themselves, was such fun.
I also liked that people in this book didn't know everything about everything, that some people knew things that others didn't. And not just in a, "A wise sage tells the protagonist something as a way to inform the reader," way. No, different people (both individuals and groups) had access to different knowledge and that played into the plot. That was very enjoyable and doesn't always happen.
I also really appreciated that (view spoiler)[the lover that Roland had before Sairis was treated with gravity and respect in this book, that it wasn't ignored, minimized, treated as a threat to Sairis, or treated as something that Roland would get over when he fell in love with Sairis. That's something that happens a lot in romance novels, and it drives me bonkers. (hide spoiler)]...more
As with the first book, this book ended on a cliffhanger so profound that "cliffhanger" barely covers it. Be prepared to have the next book or be prepAs with the first book, this book ended on a cliffhanger so profound that "cliffhanger" barely covers it. Be prepared to have the next book or be prepared to say, "That's the end?!"
This series keeps not going where I expected to. There was one point (view spoiler)[where someone was blackmailing Sairis (hide spoiler)] where I said to myself, "Ugh, I know where this is going for at least a good chunk of the book from here, and I don't like this trope at all," but I was wrong! Fooled! tricked! Led astray! Now, I'm pretty easy to trick, so people shouldn't automatically take this as an indicator that this book is sneaky (I'm so easy to fool!), but I was pleased that I didn't predict the path of the book when I was convinced (unhappily) that I had. Yes!
I very much enjoyed the presentation of grey morality in this book, which was particularly grey for some characters. I'm wondering how that will progress into the third book. It's tough to pull that off without it falling into "really not that bad" or "oh shoot, that's actually too bad," so we shall see. So far (more significant spoiler here)(view spoiler)[most of the pushing of the moral line has been done by secondary characters, not primary ones (hide spoiler)] but I'm curious to see if that changes....more
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