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Love in the Time of Cholera by Gabriel García Márquez
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it was ok
bookshelves: the-list, ugh

LET ME EXPLAIN, GUYS.

Okay. I like Marquez. I think his writing is beautiful, his settings are evocative and masterfully portrayed, and yes, his books are pretty romantic, and I always enjoy magical realism (this one could have used more of that last bit, though). The last twenty pages of the book even manged to suck me into the romance of the story, and I found myself finally really invested in this love story instead of being vaguely creeped out (we'll get there). Look, I even found a really nice passage to quote:

"It was as if they had leapt over the arduous calvary of conjugal life and gone straight to the heart of love. They were together in silence like an old married couple wary of life, beyond the pitfalls of passion, beyond the brutal mockery of hope and the phantoms of disillusion: beyond love. For they had lived together long enough to know that love was always love, anytime and anyplace, but it was more solid the closer it came to death."

See? That's fucking beautiful, and even if I didn't like the story itself, I still liked the writing. So call off the dogs, Marquez apologists, and let's get to the ranting portion of the review.

Fair warning to all who proceed past this point: I am preparing to don my Feminist Rage hat and shout about rape culture. Those who plan to leave mean comments calling me an idiot or telling me that I misunderstood the book, remember that you were warned. BEWARE, FOR HERE BE DRAGONS AND ANGRY FEMINISTS.

Here's something I learned about myself while reading this: I have absolutely no patience for books about obsession disguised as love. I hated it in Twilight, I hated it in Wuthering Heights, I hated it in The Phantom of the Opera, and I hated it here. It would be one thing, I decided, if Fermina Daza felt as passionately about Florentino Ariza as he felt about her. But she didn't love him. For her, their romance was a brief fling in her teens, and she stopped loving him when she returned from her trip. She continued not loving him, until he wears her down (after writing her letters constantly despite her explicitly telling him to fuck off out of her life) and she basically shrugs her shoulders and says, fine, might as well.

The lesson men can take from this book is that if a woman says "no" (as Fermina frequently and clearly says to Florentino), she really means, "make me change my mind." NOPE. NOPE NOPE NOPE. THIS PHILOSOPHY IS NOT OKAY AND IT IS WHY RAPE CULTURE EXISTS. NO MEANS FUCKING NO, EVERYBODY. IF A WOMAN TELLS YOU TO LEAVE HER ALONE, YOU LEAVE HER THE FUCK ALONE. IT IS NOT ROMANTIC TO OBSESS ABOUT HER FOR FIFTY YEARS, IT IS CREEPY.

And OF COURSE Florentino still fucks anything that moves while claiming to be in love with Fermina, because he is a man and that's just how it works. Which leads me to my next ranting point: this book romanticizes rape.

(you can still get out, guys - it's only going to get worse from here)

First there was the intensely unsettling way Florentino loses his virginity: while traveling on a ship, a woman drags him into her cabin and forces him to have sex with her. Then Florentino falls in love with her. Because of course he does. I was willing to chalk this scene up to the common misconception that men cannot be sexually assaulted because men are horny dogs who are always up for sex no matter what - fine, whatever, I'll let it go. But then later, a minor female character describes the time she got raped, and I'm going to let you guys read this while I do yoga breaths in the corner and count to ten slowly:

"When she was still very young, a strong, able man whose face she never saw took her by surprise, threw her down on the jetty, ripped her clothes off, and made instantaneous and frenetic love to her. Lying there on the rocks, her body covered with cuts and bruises, she had wanted that man to stay forever so she could die of love in his arms."

...

Once more with feeling: NOPE.

AND THEN, as the creepy pedophilic cherry on top of this rape sundae, Florentino's last affair is with a child. When he is in his sixties. The best part is that he doesn't even use the classic pedophile's defense of "yes, she's young, but she ACTS like a grown woman!" No, Florentino sees that this child is going to be smoking hot when she grows up, and decides that he can't wait that long. Then this passage happens:

"She was still a child in every sense of the word, with braces on her teeth and the scrapes of elementary school on her knees, but he saw right away the kind of woman she was soon going to be, and he cultivated her during a slow year of Saturdays at the circus, Sundays in the park with ice cream, childish late afternoons, and he won her confidence, he won her affection, he led her by the hand, with the gentle astuteness of a kind grandfather, toward his secret slaughterhouse."

The hero of Love in the Time of Cholera, ladies and gentlemen. Let's give him a round of applause.

If anyone wants to join me in the corner, I will be staying here for the rest of the week.
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August 1, 2013 – Finished Reading
August 8, 2013 – Shelved
August 8, 2013 – Shelved as: the-list
August 8, 2013 – Shelved as: ugh

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message 351: by Brian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Brian Mortimer The novel left me with the same objections. The aesthetic writing and how the story was framed kept me reading. That and the hope of an unhappy ending for the contemptible protagonist.


message 352: by Argyro (new) - rated it 3 stars

Argyro In addition to all this, there is another scene where he actually rapes an 18 years old Filipino girl working as a maid in his house. Then he bought her a house to convince her to lie to her parents about who took her virginity.


message 353: by Inga (new) - rated it 5 stars

Inga Buzienė I agree, that the main character, Florentino is a creepy creature, but not for a moment I saw him idealized in the book. I think, that a character with a mental issues does not make all book bad. In my strong opinion it is good, when book reaches you, even makes you angry or mad, makes you think about morality, but not telling you what is good or bad in a direct way.


message 354: by Anthea (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anthea Walsh You’ve said so perfectly what I was thinking! This book made me so mad, thanks for putting that into words


message 355: by Patty (new) - rated it 4 stars

Patty I completely agree. This book really grossed me out. His relationship with the little girl was disgusting.


Rosemary Dreyer I completely agree. I do NOT understand how this won a Nobel Prize in Literature.


message 357: by Tina (new) - rated it 1 star

Tina Musich Thank you! All of this is so true, plus by the end this trash bag of a man gets what he has always wanted? Not even sure why this book is popular.


message 358: by Arthur (new)

Arthur This is an incredibly refreshing review


message 359: by A (new)

A G A psychological insight into an obsessed man satisfying his lust violating women and justifying the acts.. the beast in man on heat looking for petticoats.


Marymary Thank you! Although I feel it's good for younger persons to read the old stuff - to see how we arrived in the present. The woman thrown down onto the jetty - well that was just plain terrible but in a sense I understood where she was coming from. I'm not finished the book yet - just came to see what others are thinking about it. Having a bit of a hard time getting to the end - he does go on about fucking a lot! Literally and figuratively! Your review reminded me of something a father once told me - as we discussed our young adult children. "Mary, if trees were soft boys/men would fuck them" This book confirms that.


message 361: by Molly (new) - rated it 3 stars

Molly Honestly, I could get over Florentino for most of the book as I assumed his behaviour would have consequence in the end. But the last chapter left him irredeemable for me because if the 14 year old girl, and in the end he is rewarded for his patience. That was when I started to dislike the book.


Suzanne I never got past chapter 2 but thanks to your review, I won't bother with persevering. I dislike strongly these testosterone infused books.


message 363: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher Thank you for your review (which is NOT a rant). I down loaded half an hour ago because my husband wanted to read it and a dear friend of mine heard that it might be interesting in the impact of Covid . You have saved me much pain and agro. I had a similar reaction to another 'masterpiece' Border Trilogy. I hope to return the favor by noting that yes, there are some interesting turns of phrases.... some. None of them balance out the cryptic desolation of lost cowboy souls, the mansplaining of patriarchy and romanticising of prosititution... I am going to pass your review on to my friend so she knows why I am not going to read this Love in the Time of Cholera


Caitlin Conlon This is the review I came here hoping to find � thank you!!!


message 365: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher Ladyfilosopher wrote: "Thank you for your review (which is NOT a rant). I down loaded half an hour ago because my husband wanted to read it and a dear friend of mine heard that it might be interesting in the impact of Co..."

my Buddhist husband was glad to have read your interview, as well. He noted that he would have found the various scenes and assumptions hard to digest


message 366: by Alli (new)

Alli Thanks for writing this. I’m so glad I didn’t waste my time on this one.


Suzalinka Thank you, this was exactly what I thought while trying to find justification for the book’s anouncement as « the world’s most beautiful love story ».


message 368: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher Sonia wrote: "I have to agree with everything you wrote. I am on page 390 and just about done. I have been waiting for that aha moment for 390 pages now to show me why this book is a classic and so great. Howeve..."

Tina wrote: "Thank you! All of this is so true, plus by the end this trash bag of a man gets what he has always wanted? Not even sure why this book is popular."

I appreciated your tenacity, (the same I held for Border Trilogy). Your closing statement about Garcia being a Nobel award winner made me look upwards in my mind to the general abstract, which where I go when contemplating power dynamics, how many of that awarding board were men..... and what record do any of the women on that board, if there were any, for upholding or challenging Patriarchy?


Sanjana Arora This review is so much on point! I felt disgusted at so many places while reading this book. There is a clear demarcation between love and obsession, and the author clearly fails to make one. No means a fucking no!


Ignacio Puig Thanks for your great review Madeleine!! I totally agree that there are some lessons we cannot take from this book. However I like this book because it tells a story that is not perfect. Life is not perfect and the book shows us some dark sides of love and life. Garcia Marquez is not trying to make a perfect love story here, but a story which involves love or love appearance sometimes. The narrator is objetive and tells the story as it is, and that involves nice parts and creepy parts as well, but life is creepy even if it shouldn't be. So of course we shoudn't take all lessons from the book, but we could still enjoy a reading of an unperfect love story


message 371: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher Ignacio wrote: "Thanks for your great review Madeleine!! I totally agree that there are some lessons we cannot take from this book. However I like this book because it tells a story that is not perfect. Life is no..."
Or, this is a 'Perfect' story of the everyday dominance and abuse that men too are suffering from and know not how to step away from. These sorts of narratives maintain by the endless reweaving narratives of patriarchal abuse. where violence is fetishcised and conflated with sex, perversely forced into association with love...
I would not know how a complex being in feedback loop with its self and the environment could even want to aspire to 'perfect'. Let's hear more about harmony in its ebb and flow and return. The cycles of creating and being in well being with others. We need to start unraveling this abuse of our nature by telling ourselves stories of how we can try. The Unforgettable Lightness of Being comes to mind despite the the sadness, there was an attempt.


message 372: by Corey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Corey Long It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that only include feel good stories featuring characters with no faults, then I'm not sure why you'd pick up a novel like Love in the Time of Cholera in the first place. It is not pop lit. Florentino is not a "hero." It is not a "romance novel." It's meant to make you uncomfortable and to force you to think. It sounds like it did that.


❁PDZԲ❁ Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that only include feel good stories featuring characters with no faults, the..."
I wholeheartedly agree. The problem, seems to be one of marketing. Had this book not been so advertised as "one of the most romantic books of all time" readers -myself included- might be more ready to appreciate it for what it is, rather than what it is said to be.


message 374: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher ❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that only include feel good stories featuring characters with ..."

men, it is time for literature that speaks to the other 50% of the population.... ENOUGH of the 'romance' of dominance, abuse of women. It mutilates the humanity of men as well as women.


❁PDZԲ❁ Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that only include feel good stories featuring..."

Fellow lady, first of all, I implore you to at least read the book before you speak with such fervor against it. It doesn't do justice to your argument to have adopted the opinion -even if, and sometimes especially when - it is the most popular one, instead of taking the time to formulate your own. ...and frankly this type of attribute is not one that I personally like associated with anyone supposedly advocating for my sex.

While I understand your frustrations, comments such as "it is time for literature that speaks to the other 50%" is confusing considering the book was published in 1985 -not to mention that certain Gray colored, female spawned abominations no less, dominated best sellers' lists from 2011-2017. What it is that you're suggesting? Because it sounds like what your suggesting is censorship in the name of political correctness. One of the more serious plagues of our time.

We cannot change the past and in fact, being able to be informed and have educated conversations about the truth of the past -and the literature it birthed- is an invaluable tool for any constructive dialogue on change. In short: two wrongs don't make a right.


message 376: by Ladyfilosopher (last edited Apr 14, 2020 04:01AM) (new)

Ladyfilosopher ❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that only include feel..."
First of all, I am not critiquing this book, I have taken to heart the review of a fellow reader who uses criteria of analysis and participation that suit my experience of books. I work in the sector of violence, (am preparing a talk about busting myths about rape), so I choose not to read the book due to core failings to enhance my life in a positive manner. I sacrificed my mental well being already reading a series of books (Border Trilogy) in honor of what I recieved from men as books they love and found such a mixture of negative experiences and emotions and RARE pearls small imagery, wording, and even less self reflection. So, NO. I maintain my right to NOT read this book, and maintain my right to not be silenced as I support a fellow reviewer and maintain my right to make a call to the male world to create new narratives about caring men struggling in this current model of socialisation. I have donated enough of my time to male lonely cowboy in far west, violence, shallow renditions of women, mansplaining of patriarchy's dealings with women....


❁PDZԲ❁ Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you want to read novels that ..."

I can support and share your cause and still disagree with the methods employed to further it. For one thing, I can hardly imagine any man -let alone one not particularly inclined- being inspired to reevaluate his ideas of what love and respect for women is, just because a couple of girls (that's us) "trash-talked" a piece of literature they may have enjoyed reading, not to mention one that for better or worse, is backed by all the "accolades" of a literary landmark.

The point of my original comment to Corey was that creating anti-heroes and exposing the parts of them that are relatable, forces our own morality and beliefs into question, which is one of the highest literary achievements an author can hope for.

I would also defend your right (and whoever else's) to choose what to consume as a reader, including this book. But the fact remains, that you are currently engaging in a discussion on the merits of a specific book within a forum designed for that purpose. If you are not, as you put it, "critiquing this book" then perhaps this isn't the appropriate forum for stating your case.

I wouldn't dream of silencing anyone but it might be worth asking whether your efforts here, are truly working towards supporting your cause. And in the end can anyone ever be "told" how to love?


message 378: by Ladyfilosopher (new)

Ladyfilosopher ❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Ladyfilosopher wrote: "❁PDZԲ� wrote: "Corey wrote: "It's a shame, not for Marquez, but for ŷ, that this is the top "review" on this site. If you wa..."
There were complaints about this review getting so much attention, I replied and you say that this is not the forum for my considerations? Please recognise this as an attempt to silence a person.


Shiinexoxo Ugh THANK YOU! I was looking forward to reading a love story, as it’s literally marketed as “a love story of astonishing power� on the front cover. Much to my horrified surprise I was greeted with an obsession, rape, and pedophilia. This just goes to show that there are way too many people in this world that need serious, deep, and lengthy therapy sessions considering that this book was not only published and marketed as a love story but then endorsed by a book club (Oprah’s book club) under that theme. That is WAY too many people for no one to be like “hey guys, uhhh I don’t know if you’ve actually READ this book but it’s not actually a love story ?????�


message 380: by Nassim (new)

Nassim I liked how you trashed the book, the characters, the events extra ... but you respected to writer. That said, i remember enjoying reading it without noticing those details. 2 stars from such a review is actually good


message 381: by [deleted user] (new)

THANK YOU! YES!!!!


message 382: by Jade (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jade Harvey This review is EVERYTHING. I couldn't agree more.


message 383: by Donna (new)

Donna LaValley wonderful review!


message 384: by Masha (new)

Masha Kolchina I also keep thinking while still mid way through the book that Femina’s character is described in such a shallow manner that it is obvious how little the author is actually interested in her, and more likely is just using her as a tool to talk about Florentino’s obsession.


message 385: by Cindy (new)

Cindy Thanks for sparing me. The Saturday’s at the circus made me want to vomit. I’m out.


message 386: by Gacanti (new)

Gacanti Swastika Sadly not every woman who says no really means no. Sometimes women are too shy to be blunt (because of condition/society’s programming) or trying to hide in series of parentheses... Clearly, not everything is as black and white. I agreed of course, no means fucking no. If they mean it. Aren’t we all debating again about the culture, and experiences are different from one another? That’s life.. Not every woman on earth is as articulate and assertive when it comes to men. Florentino is an artist, there’s something about Fermina that inspired him writing poems. Because of Fermina’s own allure that captivates him. He falls in love with someone he cant have. Whatever “love� means to him..


message 387: by Stacey (new) - rated it 3 stars

Stacey Thank you for articulating my thoughts on the book. I was creeped out the entire time. I only finished because I hate leaving books partially read.


Catania THANK YOU SO MUCH for this review!!!! You put all of my feelings about this book into words!!!! I was trying my hardest to keep an open mind about this book yet when I got to the part where Florentino had gotten promoted and he was still hoping that Fermina (now married and a mother of two kids) would be impressed by him - I really had to admit to myself that I hated this character because he refused to recognize that Fermina said no to him and moved on with her life however he decided that he would continue to live in order to be there until her husband died. Also that he stated that he would make her happy because he learned how to make other widows happy - UGH!!!! It was FRUSTRATING that this was portrayed as love!!


Χύσα Γιαννοπούλου I managed to finish the book with a lot of effort. Just to say i read it and that there was nothing special till the end. I despised both protagonists, who were victims of their own obsessions. The strange thing is that i loved the first 100 pgs, don’t know what happened next. It was the first book i read of Marquez...


message 390: by G.L. (last edited May 11, 2020 11:23AM) (new)

G.L. Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU for this review!! I started reading this book and felt like I was missing something. I put it down, walked away, picked it up and still felt "meh". So I came here to see if it was just me and I found your review! Bravo! You should be writing for The NY Times book review!!


message 391: by Meghana (new) - rated it 1 star

Meghana Sumesh This review had everything I want to say about this book! Thank you so much for writing this.


message 392: by Kays (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kays Mguni I think blaming the behaviour of the characters or wishing them to be different is writing a different story. Historical fiction has to be true to its temporal context. If at the time, men behaved in such a manner as to rape women or sleep with under age girls, that's what the story-teller has to present and not a sanitised version to make the story politically correct. What I love about Marquez is the way he presents that reality to us. He takes you right there to that time and context. Being angry at him for creating these characters is like shooting the messenger.
Like with 300 years of Solitude, I felt I had taken a trip into that world of mystical colourful characters. I loved the book and recommend to all who seek to understand how love plays out in conservative settings, how different people negotiated their lives in a new country with a political system based on aristocracy and dictates of the 'old world'.


message 393: by Victoria (new)

Victoria Quint Thank you! I have to read this for a class and I have been so uncomfortable the entire time. So thank you for putting it in writing - I’m glad I’m not the only one!


TheLittleCarrotThatCould I love what you wrote about this, however, I would advise you read what Gabriel García Márquez said about the book, “you have to be careful not to fall into my trap.� In this he acknowledges that the reader is encouraged to sympathize with and view the monster as the hero, and that is the point of the book. We (as readers, as a culture, as humans) are so easily swayed by grandiose overtures, but what that means in practice is as you said: rape. I think that is actually a good portion of the book, commenting on the obliviousness of males in pursuit of their desires.


message 395: by Kym (new) - added it

Kym Teslik Haha, thank you for writing this so I didn’t have to!


message 396: by Rikku (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rikku Thank you for this review, you put out clearly everything was on my mind.


message 397: by Anthea (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anthea Came here for this


message 398: by Singleton (new)

Singleton Makin but what if i told you this book was really written by a woman pretending to be a man?


message 399: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Kaufhold Same. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. Stalking, obsession, pedophilia x at least twice, the explanation for why that same woman you describe in the passage above never found a partner: not that she was hella traumatized but being raped in public, but that no man could possibly be as manly, as fierce as her rapist. He had set the bar impossibly high. And don't get me started on the objectification of black women in the book. I just have to wonder if the nobel prize committee was comprised entirely of men in 1982. The writing is beautifully crafted yes. The author's underlying understanding of humanity very ugly.


message 400: by Sandy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sandy Chen Thank you! I had a hard time voicing my feelings about the book and you voiced my feelings perfectly


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