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Graceling by Kristin Cashore
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it was ok
bookshelves: blerg, crazypants-protagonist, disappointing, fantasy, grrrl-power, it-s-maaaaaaagic, meh, ya-fiction
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I happen to like books which feature kick-ass feminist heroines and are light on the romance so I should like this book, right?

Yeah, but I don't.

First of all, Katsa acts like a petulant little girl throughout the entire book, not some strong feminist poster woman. Katsa shows very little, if any, personal growth over the course of this novel. Also, I felt like the author spent too much time trying to sell us on the following ideas: femininity is an idea forced upon women by the patriarchy, men don't respect women, commitment ruins relationships, marriage is a tool of the devil, and so on.

Look, I understand that some women feel that way, and I'm completely cool with it. I'd be lying if I claimed that I've never thought some of the same things during my lifetime. That said, I hate how the author seems to be shoving very specific views down my throat instead of telling me a story that challenges me to think for myself.

This book is written in such a way that it makes me think Cashore, the author, is using her character, her story as a vehicle to voice her very strong opinions. Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily have a problem with that sort of thing, it's just that this book is being touted as 'feminist' but I fail to see true feminism within the pages of this book. I mean, I guess you could consider it a version of feminism, but it's not very inclusionary. In fact, it's a very bigoted version of feminism.

Other than Katsa every other woman in this book is portrayed as weak and dumb. So basically unless you're an angry, dress-hating, man-hating woman with an aversion to commitment there is something wrong with you.

News Flash: femininity isn't anti-feminist. I'm sorry but it is possible for independent, intelligent and stable women to embrace femininity without losing credibility. And anyway, isn't that the point of the feminist movement? Gaining equality without having to act like 'one of the guys'? I mean, sure, you can reject femininity if you want, but don't go around assuming that those who are feminine are pathetic weakling losers who do nothing to help the cause.

It just so turns out that line of thought is backward and does nothing to advance the cause.

Also, Katsa's view of other women in the realm is quite condescending in that she never seems to consider how privileged she is compared to some of these other women. Katsa's lucky in that she has the ability to kill pretty much anyone she wants so it's not like she has to do a damn thing anyone tells her to do. Despite all the crap she supposedly has to put up with, Katsa has benefitted from an education and she's also afforded more freedoms than most women because someone else pays her bills. She doesn't have to milk the cows or churn butter or become a serving wench. She doesn't have to prostitute herself out in order to make ends meet.

Girlfriend needs to shut the hell up about all that because it's not like she's doing anything other than making a-hole observations. Katsa's not doing anything to change the way all women in the realm are treated, which is fine, it's her life, whatever. She just needs to quit it with the judgmental attitude toward others who can't afford to live or think the way she does.

I could have handled Katsa's aversion to having a relationship with Poe if she hadn't had any feelings for him, or if she knew she wasn't emotionally ready to make any sort of commitment. But no, Katsa's aversion to commitment was built up do be some great personal strength of hers.

In the end it just felt like she ('she' being Katsa. Or Cashore. Kat-Shore?) was trying to prove a point or something, like "look at how independent I am. I'm not a barnacle. I don't need a man...except for when I needs teh sex. So Poe, my lover, sorry you lost your sight and all but I'll prolly be drunk-dialing you in the future, cause I am comfortable with my sexuality. kthanxbai." *sob* "Walking away is waaaaay hard, which is why I am so strong." *sob* "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrl Powerrrrrr!"

Yeah, because being in a loving, trusting, equal and committed relationship isn't a sign of strength. Strength can only be had by loners who don't like to commit because doing so will supposedly lower their self-worth ...ummm....I mean..."independent" people.

Also, it has to be said: The love scene grosses me out as much or more than the sex scene(s) in Titanic and/or Avatar. Some people just don't know how to write a love scene. James Cameron and Kristin Cashore are among that group.

One last thing: why is it that no one seems to have an issue with Katsa hitting Po, literally knocking him to the ground so hard that he bruises? All he did was voice his opinion, that's it. Had the tables been turned, had Po hit Katsa for voicing her opinion, you people would be unbelievably angry. I'm sure some of you would be burning Cashore in effigy.

Let's do a little more of this whole turning tables thing. Pretend that Katsa is actually a male character and Po is female. Okay, how much do you love this new topsy-turvy version of Graceling? Not very much, you say? Yeah, I thought so.

If you ask me Katsa is one of the least deserving protagonists. She's a violent, judgmental a-hole who shows little to no personal growth over the course of this entire book. I don't care if she had a difficult childhood, having a difficult childhood doesn't mean you have to go around inflicting the worst parts of yourself on others. Having a difficult childhood doesn't give you license to be an awful person.

Two stars because the concept was cool. Too bad it was poorly executed.
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April 17, 2011 – Shelved
April 17, 2011 – Shelved (ebook Edition)
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: blerg
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: crazypants-protagonist
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: disappointing
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: fantasy
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: grrrl-power
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: it-s-maaaaaaagic
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: meh
April 1, 2014 – Shelved as: ya-fiction

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Miss Amelia The devil is in marriage! Haha, I love that.
You are so right! That scene was really gross. In fact, I asked a middle-school librarian if she had read this book, and she said 'no' of course, and then I opened it up to that page, and she was like "oh my gosh!" and she took a sharpie and like sharpied out that whole paragraph or whatever. It was just squirmy-gross. I'm glad you mentioned it in your review.
The antithesis of this book (or really, how this book could have been, minus the propaganda) in my opinion in SABRIEL. Awesome, strong female who's not afraid to love. And marry (later in the series). Have you read that yet? I think we've talked about this book before, but I don't remember...
And to comment on your comment on my GRACELING review, you are SO RIGHT about the by-contrast scene in JELLICOE ROAD. Beautiful, but not over-the-top. You sure know how to pick 'em!


Tatiana well said


Miss Clark Too true....


Rachel Hartman A school librarian sharpied out a scene?!


Hayley It's interesting that you see the book as feminist propaganda, because that never once occurred to me. You ascribe all of Katsa's less typically feminine qualities to Cashore's feminist agenda, but I found myself thinking more about Katsa's particular personality and situation and wondering what made her act a certain way, instead of feeling that I was being told to accept her values and fears as Right and act similarly. For example, I don't think Katsa's reluctance to enter into a relationship was Cashore's attempt to glorify masculinity and preach manly commitment phobia to the world. I see it as characterization: being defined by her connection to another person, as she had been by the king for most of her life, made Katsa afraid of letting her identity be subsumed by another's. I also didn't mind Katsa's lack of feminity--I relate more to her than many of the strong feminine characters out there. I'm with you on the love scene, though. I generally like Katsa and Po together but some of the phrasing in that scene made it odd and a little creepy. The line about bleeding was weird.


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Lissa If you DON'T like Graceling, you'll probably like Fire. That's what I've found so far...


Shannon Alot of people have commented on Cashore's books and how she portrays a 'strong, independant woman'. I see that in the books, but i chose to ignore it a loved it for the story; i did pick up on her anti-marriage/anti-commitment (and sometimes, anti children) veiws after I read Fire, and that started to annoy me. Im hoping Bitterblue will have less of that.


message 8: by Nancy (new)

Nancy I'm glad I read your review, because I will now not waste my time reading the book.


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agree


message 10: by Teno (new) - rated it 4 stars

Teno Q. Every other woman in this book is portrayed as weak and dumb.

Um, what are you talking about? The other women in this book are Helda, Bitterblue, Ashen, and Po's mother. Bitterblue and Zinnober are both intelligent and strong, with Ashen's strength standing out especially. The girls in the inn were young and probably uneducated, and they hadn't been put through any trying situations that made them strong like the other women had been, so naturally they would be more defenseless than Katsa. So no, the other women in this book are not weak and dumb.

I could argue this review to death, but I've already done that with Kat Kennedy's review, so I'm not wasting my time here.


message 11: by Jane (new) - rated it 1 star

Jane Tower could not agree with you more!!


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i dont like strong heroine who acts like a guy and an anti feminine. I like a strong heroine who acts like a woman,independent smart,and got respect from men


Ronni There are some points on which I agree with you. But not all.


Elise Great review!


message 15: by Jo (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jo The women are "weak" because Katsa learns/discovers that most aren't taught to defend themselves, which she is accustomed to as she has the graceling of survival. So, I don't think it is femme women = dumb. I think she found the world she lived in that didn't help its women fight for themselves = dumb.


Kylee Great review! Even if I don't like a book I still finish it but this one I just couldn't do that.


Allyn Joyce Well done!


Natalie Monroe I agree with everything you said up there, especially with how femininity does not equal anti-feminism. I like wearing dresses and wearing my hair long, but I will tear someone a new one if they tell me the downfall of humankind was because of Eve.


message 19: by Linda (new) - rated it 1 star

Linda So true. Katsa is such a sniveling brat.


Kendra So Poe, my lover, sorry you lost your sight and all but I'll prolly be drunk-dialing you in the future, cause I am comfortable with my sexuality. kthanxbai." *sob* "Walking away is waaaaay hard, which is why I am so strong." *sob* "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrl Powerrrrrr!"

Well, I had a nice laugh at that part XD. And yes, I'm not liking Katsa so far either. She's even worse than one of my OCs who, mind you, has a terrible temper. Katsa is just one of those characters who really needs to just go through character development. :(


message 21: by Shelia (new)

Shelia Bayound So right


Janjans Agree with you 100%. This girl was pampered and still complained. It was like reading about 1st world problems.


Ariel The language in the sex scene was pretty strange. I think it made sense for time and commentary left out. Anyways, I liked that the pain and blood was mentioned. It's almost never mentioned in anything. TV, movies, books, etc. They almost always make the first time look like a breeze where in truth it could be one of the most painful things a girl could experience. I never see that though. Till now.


Cary I don't need a man...except for when I needs teh sex. So Poe, my lover, sorry you lost your sight and all but I'll prolly be drunk-dialing you in the future, cause I am comfortable with my sexuality. kthanxbai." *sob* "Walking away is waaaaay hard, which is why I am so strong." *sob* "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrl Powerrrrrr!"

That's a direct quote from the book, right? I'm pretty sure I remember reading that :D

Thank you for your review: you put into words so much of what bothered me. Particularly, the fact that if you swapped the genders, only the dangerously insane and psychopathic would like the character. That's not what we should be looking for when we seek strong female leads.


Brex (Bookosaurus_Rex) Preach! You voiced so much of what I hate about militant and bigoted versions of feminism. :)


Melissa I disagree that every other woman besides Katsa is portrayed as dumb. Despite the emotional and threatened physical abuse she undergoes, Bitterblue is able to learn, care, lead, and show her desire to be strong. Helda portrays someone to whom fashion is important, but so is what's on the inside. Everyone views Katsa as evil and a monster, but she looks beyond the two colored eyes and sees the young girl within. Captain Fourn is a good leader, respected, smart, and loyal. Bitterblue's mother is one of the few people able to see past her husband's lies and she dies for her daughter. I'm not sure which female characters you're referring to as dumb. There are few girls, but each holds her own, I would say. Perhaps the wives of the princes of Lienid were 2-dimensional, but even Po's mother has strong foresight, human understanding, and love.


message 27: by Mike (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mike Rotch Seriously!? I love Katsa's personality! She is not some sissy little character that needs some guy to bring out her hero side ; she's strong on her own. The book also passes the Bechdal Test while still having romance. Kristin Cashore's writing is highly commendable. I found Graceling to be a thrilling book, but Fire the next book in this series is very contradictory to the heroine in this one. So i suggest if you " can't take the heat " or the realness of this book for mentioning something neutral like womans bleedings then you should keep your goody-little-two-shoes eyes off of the novel Graceling.


Rambling Reviews YES. I completely agree with your review. Well said!


Melody WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME. you've just ruined my favourite book halfway through re reading it... :(


message 30: by Kkat (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kkat PR-EA-CH! Thank you! I agree whole heartedly!


message 31: by Kristi (new)

Kristi I agree with you - - if Katsa were the male lead and Po the female, this book would be condemned as “sexist.�


message 32: by Neon (new) - rated it 1 star

Neon I laughed so hard at your review...You voiced my exact thoughts but in a much funnier tone lol! Nowadays it's a rare sight to see a normal woman being represented as a powerful icon. Authors believe you either have to be an all-doing goddess or an annoying powerhouse... Here's to the feminine, quiet, silent warrior queens.


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