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Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger
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it was ok

If you liked Catcher in the Rye more than your average novel, then you probably have considered reading Franny and Zooey. It's one of very few books that J.D. Salinger wrote because he kind of turned into a weird old recluse. I was really excited about reading this. I expected big things. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.
Problem number one: Zooey, who is essentially the "protagonist" (or one of two main characters) is pretty much identical to the main character from Catcher in the Rye, Holden Caulfield. And so is every other guy character in Franny and Zooey. They all talk and act the same. It's all "Jesus Christ, goddam" and you can't tell them apart.
Problem number two: the plot. If you thought Catcher in the Rye was short on plot, check out this book. NOTHING happens. I mean it. Nothing. The first quarter of the book is just Franny sitting in a restaurant talking to her boyfriend. The remaining three fourths is Zooey sitting in the bathtub talking to his mom, then getting dressed and talking to his sister in the living room. That's it. They don't do anything. They don't go anywhere. The entire book is just characters talking to each other. And it's boring, pointless dialogue, too. It'd be one thing if they were interesting characters but they're not. And all they do is smoke. Every one of them. They chain smoke like it's the only thing Salinger could think of to put into his novel that wasn't in quotation marks.
Hmm, what can Zooey do when he's not talking...I've got it! He can smoke a cigar! Brilliant!
More like frustrating. That makes two books in a row that I've read and been disappointed with.
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Kathleen You're talking absolute rubbish. You obviously subscribe to the theory that unless there are explosions, nothing is happening. Salinger is all about exploring relationships and the volumes that are spoken through nuance. I can't believe you say, "Nothing Happened", like they were supposed to have crossed the Sahara or swung from chandeliers to have accomplished something. That alone, a good story does not make. I feel sorry that you could not grasp the subte brilliance and depth of these stories.


Danielle Hallelujah! A kindred spirit. "Franny and Zooey" is a literary work, not a commercial novel, so of course it's going to be heavy on character and short on plot. But that doesn't mean it has to be devoid of a single significant event! Jason is absolutely right. The endless talking about NOTHING got so old, I was foolish to perservere to the end. In fact, I just say a hearty "Amen!" to everything Jason said in his review. I'm sure we both feel sorry we couldn't grasp "the subtle brilliance and depth of these stories," because then maybe reading them wouldn't have been such a waste of time.


Kathleen Whatever floats your boat. It's not like I was singing the praises of Seymour: An Introduction, or something daft like that. I still think it's rather harsh words (waste of time, foolish to persevere) for two stories that definately have their moments. I personally found Zooey's exchange with his mother whilst in the bath quite engaging.


Darren You should read Michael Crichton instead.


Danielle Holy jumping to conclusions, Batman. Just because I didn't enjoy one literary novel doesn't mean I don't appreciate good writing. For me, personally, this book didn't do much. I never said it was wholly wihtout merit (read my review) or that it needed chandelier swinging to be enjoyable. But the relationships, communication, and philosophical questions were just not engaging for me. Don't be so quick to judge a reader by a single book they liked or disliked (Mr. Harry Potter).


Rachel That WAS the plot... I and I loved it.


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Ally The brand new group - Bright Young Things - is nominating books to read in January & Franny and Zooey is among them. Its the perfect place to discuss your favourite books and authors from the early 20th Century, why not take a look...

http://www.goodreads.com/group/invite...


Maggie Delancey Ah I completely agree. I loved loved loved Catcher in the Rye... but Franny and Zooey took me so long to get through. An entire page describing what was in the medicine cabinet... come on!


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Missy I think you can only really appreciate this novel if you're going through the same sort of crisis Franny and earlier on Zooey went through. Though they talk the same all the men, besides the brothers to some degree, are completely different. The relationships between all the Glass' is beautiful and the way J.D. Salinger can perfectly and subtly show you all the complex dimensions within them is amazing. If the 20s are the 50s then Fitzgerald is Salinger, and nothing exemplifies that statement more than Franny and Zooey.

Maybe if you can't quite understand you are Seymour's Fat Lady, and Ah buddy you know who you are. :)


Jessica Maggie Jane wrote: "Ah I completely agree. I loved loved loved Catcher in the Rye... but Franny and Zooey took me so long to get through. An entire page describing what was in the medicine cabinet... come on!"

Exactly! I can see where J.D. Salinger is trying to go with this and I just don't care.


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Ricardo man I don't agree 100% of what you said but it made me laugh a lot! keep it up!


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I was going to read this book until I read your review mixed with remember how much I couldn't stand Catcher in the Rye (it was so boring and redundant). Thanks for saving me from another boring story! I found your review very useful.


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*remembering


Adriana Makes me wonder if I should even bother finishing. I'm more than halfway, and I'm having a tough time empathizing with anyone.


message 15: by Robin (new) - rated it 1 star

Robin What's with these comments suggesting that you don't get literary fiction if you don't like this book. Come now. That's a bit of a broad swoop.


message 16: by Thom (new) - rated it 4 stars

Thom Dunn Just for fun, read Hemingway's "A Clean Well-Lighted Place".


Jenna Burton As stand alone works, I might agree that none are fantastic, but after reading all his stories on the Glass family, I was blown away.


Alison Mirabella I loved it, but I was also amused by how much the entire family smoked. Geez!


Emily I have to say, when I was reading this the voice was very much like that of Holden... ;)


Kelli Read it again. And then again. And then again. There will be some point in your life that it will become incredibly dear to you. You just have to be at that right point of your life for it to take hold.


Zooey Sveck You're clearly not able to infer, or you are a prince!


message 22: by Pam (new) - rated it 2 stars

Pam Jason, I agree with you 100%. It's not even worth me writing a review because you said exactly what I would have said only better. I trust in reviews to lead me to books I will like, but in this case I just don't get it--and I read a lot of the glowing reviews.

I just read Catcher in the Rye for the first time and thought it was brilliant, and was eager to read F&Z....totally disappointed, couldn't even get through it. I should follow you since are sentiments here are identical


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I would recommend this book to anyone who has ever gone through existential and spiritual crisis, as well as for those who want to understand those who have gone through existential and spiritual crisis and either went on living or committed suicide. I suppose not everyone has had their world turned upside down, and have experienced a lack of meaning, existential angst and despair, Weltschmerzen, religious doubt, or have contemplated becoming a monk, committing suicide, wandering the world in search of religious or spiritual Truth, converting to a religion different from one's birth religion, or questioned everything they were raised on, but for those have, Franny and Zooey's experiences, as well as those of their brother Seymour, will seem like familiar territory.


Nathan Doyle This guy is a dope. I'm sure he shits on Caron McCullers as well.


message 25: by Ami (new) - rated it 2 stars

Ami Right to the point


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Ella he’s similar to holden but he’s aLso an actor and holden “hates the goddamn films�


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Ella but i see what you mean!


Ethy Lauren Hobbs Franny and Zooey is not an action packed book. You’re right, but in that alone you have completely missed the point. The book is not action packed, it’s emotionally packed. The whole thing is about Franny’s journey to her own version of enlightenment. Go back and read it again bearing in mind that what is important in literature is not always what makes your heart beat faster with excitement, but what makes it beat in the first place. Everything Salinger writes has a slant, it all means something. Each odd movement of Bessies bathrobe, each tuck of Franny’s hair, each awkward thing Zooey does, all speak inwardly about who the character is. It makes them unmistakably human. That is what makes the book worth reading.


Edith V. Howerton So, yes Franny and Zooey is less accessible than Catcher; but ultimately a deeper and more satisfying read if you’re willing to put in the mental energy. It’s one of my all-time favorites.


Susie Ugh I am reading this book at the moment and feel exactly the same about it.. I hate not finishing books but I'm close to just putting it down


Pragya Agarwal It's okay if you didn't understand The Catcher In The Rye. "Jesus Christ, goddman" these are just slangs which are pretty common among the teens. And chain smoking that too is. The books is very authentic. It's not about the plot. These books are all about the characters. Salinger just tries to describe what characters like Holden feel about their surroundings trying to fight the fight with themselves.


message 32: by Judi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Judi it reminded me of a real long Seinfeld episode.


message 33: by Rob (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob I love this review. I love when people are thoroughly disappointed in a book they read. In a Zen like way though, even though nothing happens in the this book and yes, they smoke an unbelievable amount even for the 1950's, you could almost say tha "everything" happens in this book. What's left if we strip ourselves of ego?


message 34: by Jane (new) - rated it 1 star

Jane Mcconnell 💯agree. It was the most excruciatingly boring read of my life-time. I truly felt lost-in-space at times.


BigBlueSea Salinger fits in the category of writers in a generation who became famous because the coupled religious ideas with a lot of cursing and it shocked the masses. His characters have nowhere near the depth of Dostoevsky or his prose the interest of, well, anyone. The Catcher in the Rye is just a “cool� book to say you’ve read, but devoid of anything life-changing. To say anything other in my opinion reveals the shallowness of the person saying otherwise.


Mariam totally agree


Olena V Such an excellent review and so true!


message 38: by papibook (new)

papibook don't want to be on tv doesn't make you "an old weird recluse"…fans became so berseck with the Catcher in the rye, seeing him like a guru or prophet, that he understood very cleverly not feeding the craziness


Cheryl Very similar to my thoughts when reading the book.


Sophie Mae Agreed!


message 41: by Alee (new) - rated it 2 stars

Alee Hawkins Interesting point about the plot. Maybe that’s why I found it so boring!


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