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Τίμαιος by Plato
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Plato's Timaeus is a cornerstone of ancient philosophy, blending metaphysics with proto-scientific inquiry. This dialogue explores the creation of the world, the nature of the Gods, and the human body. Its rich tapestry has inspired thinkers and creators for millennia.

Theories on World Creation and Gods

In Timaeus, Plato presents a detailed account of the cosmos's origin. His method of explaining the cosmos's structure parallels how fiction/fantasy authors create elaborate stories/mythologies and that shows a lot of how for ages he inspired humanity to create with his philosophical and theoretical work.

Human Body and Health

Plato's exploration of the human body blends philosophy with empirical observation. While he gets a lot of facts and research for insights into health and anatomy from Asclepius (and I'm guessing other doctors of his times) reflecting an early attempt to understand human physiology systematically. This mix of speculative thought and practical knowledge shows Plato's commitment to grounding his theories in observable facts (even though wrong at times, but give the guy a break, it was like 300BC at the time).

And while Plato's views on the body were influential, they were limited by the lack of modern scientific knowledge about anatomy, physiology etc. His focus was more on the soul's relationship to the body than on empirical facts about the body itself.

Plato as a Proto-Fantasy Author

Plato's detailed and imaginative account of the world's creation, for me personally, it marks him as a precursor to modern fantasy authors. His method of explaining the genesis and structure of the cosmos is akin to how writers build immersive fictional worlds. I'd read his theories and ideas and think of when I'd read of Tolkien's Middle Earth or Warcraft Lore, or D&D books and even various myths and legends from other civilizations. His influence extends to crafting Gods and establishing cosmological order, which are hallmarks of the fantasy genre.

And finally...

The Atlantis Narrative

The reason this book is known for, even though it has so little to do with and it's only a few pages long of a story.

The Atlantis story, told by Critias in Timaeus, which was told to Solon by Egyptian priests, describes the powerful, utopian island civilization which we all know, the rise and literal fall of Atantis that sinks into the ocean. Depicted as an ideal society with perfect warriors, who attacked every ancient nation, and winning every battle but one, the Greeks, who freed everyone from the Atlanteans, and pretty much saved their kingdom. Atlantis's downfall serves as a moral and philosophical allegory of course.

This narrative lays the groundwork for myths about lost civilizations in literature and pop-culture and even though it is just an allegory lots of ancient philosophers, historians, and even poets throughout the years, took a shot at Atlantis being real and there are even hypothesis that it was based maybe on the Minoan civilization, or based on a little island known as Thera (iirc) near ancient Crete who fell and if I continue I can tell you countless other theories based on Plato's little story from back then up until now told by modern historians and archeologists.

Dialogue and Philosophical Depth

As with the Republic, once again, Plato's skill in crafting dialogues is evident here too. The interplay between characters, logical arguments, and profound philosophical questions showcase his ability to engage readers in deep contemplation. His dialogues are vibrant conversations that illuminate complex ideas about reality, ethics, and human existence.

Timaeus is a testament to Plato's intellectual prowess, blending myth, philosophy, and proto-science into a compelling narrative. While some theories may seem archaic (and of course science proved some of them wrong) the foundational ideas and exploration method remain influential.

Atlantis:
Σ'αυτή, λοιπόν, την νήσο Ατλαντίδα υπήρχε μεγάλη και θαυμαστή βασιλική δύναμη,
που επικρατούσε σε όλο το νησί, καθώς και σε πολλά άλλα νησιά και μέρη της ηπείρου. Επιπλέον, στα δικά μας μέρη, ήταν άρχοντες. Όλη αυτή η δύναμη, συναθροισμένη σε ένα στράτευμα, επιχείρησε κάποτε να υποδουλώσει με ορμή τον δικό σας και τον δικό μας και κάθε τόπο εντός του στομίου.

Τότε, λοιπόν, Σόλωνα, η δύναμη της πόλης σας έγινε εμφανής σε άπαντες τους ανθρώπους, ως προς την αρετή και την ρώμη της, γιατί πρωτοστάτησε ενώπιον όλων με ευψυχία και με όσες πολεμικές τέχνες κατείχε, αρχικά ως ηγεμόνας των Ελλήνων κι έπειτα - εξ ανάγκης απομονωμένη, όταν οι άλλοι αποστάτησαν - φτάνοντας στους έσχατους κινδύνους, νίκησε τους επιδρομείς κι έστησε τρόπαιο, αποτρέποντας την υποδούλωση των μη υπόδουλων και ελευθερώνοντας μεγαλόκαρδα όλους τους άλλους, όσους κατοικούμε εντός των ορίων των Ηρακλείων Στηλών.

Σε κατοπινούς χρόνους, όταν έγιναν φοβεροί σεισμοί και κατακλυσμοί, μέσα σε μία ημέρα και μία νύχτα τρομερή, όλοι οι μαχητές σας χάθηκαν αθρόοι μέσα στη γη και η νήσος Ατλαντίδα αφανίστηκε, παρομοίως βυθισμένη στην θάλασσα. Γι'αυτό και τώρα έγινε απροσπέλαστο και αδιερεύνητο το εκεί πέλαγος, αφού εμποδίζει ο εντελώς βαθύς πηλός, τον οποίο άφησε το νησί καθώς καταποντιζόταν.
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Reading Progress

May 15, 2024 – Shelved
May 15, 2024 – Shelved as: to-read
May 16, 2024 – Started Reading
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: 4th-century
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: ancient-history
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: ancient-greece
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: atlantis
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: classics
May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: mythology
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May 16, 2024 – Shelved as: philosophy
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