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Orlando by Virginia Woolf
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it was amazing
bookshelves: 2015, reviewed, all-stars, woolf, 1001
Read 2 times. Last read January 3, 2015 to January 13, 2015.

This was my first time reading Orlando. It was also my second time.

I like to think that everything happens for a reason - not that I believe it was planned or decided by a powerful creature for me - but because the idea that everything effects what surrounds it sounds about right to me. So I see a purpose in this reading experience that Virginia Woolf provided me and take it as an important lesson to carry with me from now on - and how appropriate that it came just at the beginning of a new and exciting year.

I’ve always liked to plan things to the last detail in my life. With reading, unfortunately - and I say that because sometimes it becomes too much to follow-up on - it is the same. I had a strict schedule to read Orlando and I wanted to finish it by January 9th. The day arrived and I only had twenty pages or so left to finish the book, so great, another thing was on the right track. And then I realized nothing was on the right track. I had been racing through the book to comply with a deadline that I stipulated - for no authentic reason, really - in my head and I wasn’t enjoying it at all. Yes, I saw glimpses of brilliance here and there, and I loved the idea of the book since the beginning, plus the fact that I’ve always admired both Woolf and her writing style, so it surprised (and bothered) me that I wasn’t actually having a great time with it. I put it down and analyzed the situation for two minutes - it was a no brainer, I know, but when you’re caught up in it, it may take a while to realize things - and then decided to start over. To read everything once again, including the Introduction that I skipped the first time. Oh my! What about my schedule? It would have to give in. So I went back to the beginning, with hopes of a better read this time and without a deadline. After thirty pages or so, I realized the blur I had read for racing through the words felt really different and so much better now, as if I had just put on my reading glasses.

Forget mostly everything you know from Woolf and expect to find here based on previous works - it’s a departure from them, almost completely. Mrs. Dalloway became famous for being an account of a single day of a person’s life; to counter that, we read in this book more than three hundred years of Orlando’s life. To the Lighthouse is known for its stream of consciousness style that is intertwined with the plot and characters' lines and actions, making it a complex read; this novel is straightforward and presented in the format of a biography of the character Orlando - one would say the novel is actually semi-biographical as it’s been widely known that the protagonist is based on Vita Sackville-West, an English writer who’s been romantically involved with Woolf; because of that, the novel is seen as a love-letter to Vita. More than that, it is a love letter to literature, to the exercise of writing and to writers. It takes us on a grand literary journey throughout the centuries - kind of an expanded Oxen of the Sun from Ulysses - where Virginia emulates some styles and eras in her writing - although still making her book easily accessible as opposed to what Joyce did in the specified episode.

This biography tells us the story of Orlando, an individual born as a biological male who lives for more than three hundred years. Seems interesting enough, right? There’s more: at around thirty years of age, he wakes up to find out a change has occurred: he’s mysteriously been transformed into a woman; he (she) is now biologically female. This is the basic frame of the novel.

But truly, what I most admired and enjoyed in this work was Woolf. I love how she comprehended and created her protagonist as someone constituted of dissimilarities and paradoxes all throughout the times. If we, inside of one year, change our minds so often, imagine someone living for three centuries. Not only did this gave a touch of realism to this distinct story, but it also kept Orlando’s character as being fresh, not determined from beginning to end and, above all, unpredictable.

What I mostly got from Orlando’s character was the sense of solitude and constant search. Despite being surrounded by people throughout centuries, Orlando was really in search of herself, of who he was, of what she was - really, in search of a meaning, of a purpose, of her individuality. It didn’t help, of course, that on the times he opened up and trusted people, she ended up being betrayed by them, only renewing his sense of loneliness. Notwithstanding, she still seemed to worry so much about people’s opinions and conceptions about him, for she was longing to fit somewhere.

Orlando’s freedom - for so to speak - came from an epiphany he had while struggling about his writings, when she realized that in need to be true to himself, she needed to write first and foremost for herself, leaving all glory aside that for a moment she considered seeking for herself - again proving his need to fit, to be accepted. Following this moment, Orlando found the necessity of taking care of his house, which I interpreted as a clear metaphor that she, from that moment on, wanted to value himself, his story, her lineage, the foundation: he was, for once, proud of being who she was.

"He stretched himself. He rose. He stood upright in complete nakedness before us, and while the trumpets pealed Truth! Truth! Truth! we have no choice left but confess � he was a woman."

Although Virginia made a decision to not explain or address too much the sex change - and I applaud her for that, for it was treated naturally (despite the amazing scene, one of the best in the novel, where the three sisters Chastity, Purity and Modesty tried to cover the beautiful transformation) as all gender issues should be, for they’re not, in my opinion, much more than a simple detail that constitutes us such as our height and weight -, I wanted to at least acknowledge here on my humble review how brilliant she was for writing so bravely - and yet with a much admirable lightness - on a subject that still, in 2015, is such a taboo to our society. Virginia wrote as if the sexually defined roles were no more than fantasies that could easily be stripped off for the benefit of another that better suited the individual.

Still on Woolf’s levity in addressing the change, the reflections made by Orlando right after becoming a woman were really fun and interesting to read. His comparisons between the genders and her efforts in learning how to act, be and think had a subtle but undeniable touch of sarcasm. Orlando trying to readjust her behavior after becoming a woman, to comply to what was expected of her - and this was a constant for him because, outside the gender issue, the character goes through a lot of different eras and times, each one with silly defined roles by society - , felt like someone who needed to learn to walk again, or rather someone who’s been through a short period of blindness and regains sight, only to find out, this time, that the world is under different lights and colors, as if the sun had been changed to blue, or pink.

"Memory is the seamstress, and a capricious one at that. Memory runs her needle in and out, up and down, hither and thither. We know not what comes next, or what follows after. Thus, the most ordinary movement in the world, such as sitting down at a table and pulling the inkstand towards one, may agitate a thousand odd, disconnected fragments, now bright, now dim, hanging and bobbing and dipping and flaunting, like the underlinen of a family of fourteen on a line in a gale of wind."

Other aspect that was surely to please me was Woolf’s addressing to memory, time and consciousness - topics I’ve been reading about for quite some time. Still, she was able to add her own twist to those and seemingly inverted Proust’s approach: instead of showing the moment that the past resurfaces through an involuntary memory, she shows us the present fighting back to regain the mind’s control, mostly through sounds that awake Orlando again, as if the present was actually screaming for attention.

Back to the first time I attempted to read this book, and also one of the changes I made that contributed to my new-found enjoyment of it was about reading the notes included in my edition. I seem to have a love/hate relationship with notes; while they’re completely essential in some books, practically part of the narrative and elucidative to the comprehension of the work, in others they are simply too distracting without adding much to the experience. My edition has 262 notes (for a book that has about 240 pages.) Most were about the parallels between Vita’s life and Orlando’s, and those I found to be unnecessary. After I stopped reading all of them and only payed attention to the ones that promised to add to my understanding, my reading flow also improved.

: although it hasn’t been acclaimed either by critics nor the public, I was very much curious to watch the film from 1992, directed by Sally Potter, to see how Woolf’s narrative would de adapted into the screen. While it had some nice moments, and most of them provided by Tilda Swinton’s talents who plays Orlando greatly, others were a great disappointment: to justify Orlando’s longer than usual life by making it a gift from the Queen is completely unnecessary; after that, I was scared they would also try to justify the sex change - gladly, that wasn’t the case. Having Orlando constantly looking at the camera in attempts to connect to the viewer felt forced and became very predictable and - what I think must have been the sole reason the director decided on using those - also didn’t match the wit that Woolf achieved by having the biographer addressing the reader in several occasions. It was a fun time watching the film, but it doesn’t stand on its own like the novel gracefully does.

Rating: for a book that, under 300 pages, packed not only a great story, with wonderful wit and humor, written brilliantly, but also taught me an important lesson: 5 stars.
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Quotes Renato Liked

Virginia Woolf
“O verde na natureza é uma coisa, o verde na literatura é outra. A natureza e as letras parecem ter uma antipatia visceral; junte as duas, e se estraçalham mutuamente.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Segurava uma pena mas não escrevia. Parecia ocupado em fazer rolar um pensamento dentro da cabeça, para cima e para baixo, de um lado para o outro, até lhe dar uma forma ou impulso que lhe agradasse.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Saltando do cavalo, ele deu a impressão de que em sua fúria iria desafiar a correnteza. Com água até os joelhos, lançou na direção da mulher infiel todos os insultos que desde sempre pesam sobre seu sexo. Falsa, volúvel, inconstante, ele a chamou; demônio, adúltera, traidora; e as águas em turbilhão guardaram suas palavras e atiraram a seus pés um jarro quebrado e um pedacinho de palha.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“De imediato - tal é sua impetuosidade -, o amor tomou forma humana - tal é seu orgulho. Pois, enquanto outros pensamentos se contentam em permanecer abstratos, nada o satisfaz caso não surja em carne e osso, mantilhas e saias, meias e gibão. E, como todos os amores de Orlando haviam sido mulheres, agora, devido à condenável demora da condição humana em se adaptar às convenções, conquanto ela própria fosse mulher, foi uma mulher que ela amou; e, se a consciência de ser do mesmo sexo teve algum efeito, foi o de estimular e aprofundar aqueles sentimentos que tivera quando homem, pois mil sugestões e mistérios, antes incompreensíveis, agora se aclaravam. A penumbra que aparta os sexos e permite a proliferação de incontáveis impurezas havia sido removida. E, se faz sentido o que o poeta diz sobre a verdade e a beleza, aquela afeição ganhou em beleza o que perdeu em falsidade.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Todavia, em meio ao alvoroço desses pensamentos, alguma coisa se ergueu, como uma cúpula de mármore branco e liso, que, verdadeira ou imaginária, impressionou tanto sua fervilhante imaginação que Orlando se fixou sobre ela como um enxame de vibrantes libélulas pousa, com evidente satisfação, sobre a redoma de vidro que protege alguma tenra plantinha.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Todavia, nada pode ser mais arrogante, embora nada seja mais comum, do que presumir que de deuses só existe um e, de religiões, apenas a de quem fala.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“O que, então, ela escondia dele? A dúvida que solapava a tremenda força de seus sentimentos era como a areia movediça sob um monumento, que se desloca de repente e faz estremecer toda a estrutura.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“A natureza, que tem nos pregado tantas peças estranhas, nos moldando a partir de uma mistura muito desigual de barro e diamantes, de arco-íris e granito, para depois empacotar tudo isso num invólucro muitas vezes incongruente, pois o poeta tem cara de açougueiro e o açougueiro, cara de poeta;”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“A memória é a costureira, e por sinal bastante imprevisível. A memória faz correr a agulha para dentro e para fora, para cima e para baixo, para cá e para lá. Não sabemos o que vem a seguir, ou o que virá depois. Assim, o mais banal movimento no mundo, tal como sentar-se a uma mesa e puxar para perto o tinteiro, pode agitar mil fragmentos díspares e desconexos, alguns brilhantes, outros obscuros, pendurados, balançando, mergulhando e tremulando como as roupas de baixo de uma família de catorze membros presas a uma corda durante forte ventania.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Libertado da angústia do amor rechaçado, da vaidade recriminada e de todos os outros ferrões e espinhos com que as urtigas da vida o haviam ferido quando ambicionava a fama, mas que não podiam molestar quem desdenhava da glória, ele abriu os olhos, que tinham se mantido abertos o tempo todo mas só haviam visto pensamentos, e avistou sua casa, aninhada lá embaixo no vale.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Espreguiçou-se. Levantou-se. Ficou de pé diante de nós, sem roupa nenhuma, e, enquanto as trombetas rugiam Verdade! Verdade!, não temos escolha senão confessar - era uma mulher.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Nenhuma paixão é mais potente no peito do homem que o desejo de fazer os outros acreditarem no que ele crê. Nada atinge mais duramente a raiz de sua felicidade e o enche de ódio do que saber que outrem menospreza aquilo que ele mais valoriza. Liberais, conservadores e trabalhistas - por que se batem senão por seu próprio prestígio? Não é o amor à verdade, e sim o desejo de prevalecer que lança facção contra facção, que faz uma paróquia querer a ruína de outra paróquia. Cada qual busca paz de espírito e subserviência em vez do triunfo da verdade e a exaltação da virtude - mas essas moralidades pertencem ao historiador e devem ser deixadas a ele, pois são tão tediosas quanto a água das valas.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Nem sempre foi assim! Mas os homens não nos querem mais, as mulheres nos odeiam. Saiamos daqui. Vamo-nos. Eu (diz a Pureza) para o poleiro das galinhas. Eu (diz a Castidade) para as colinas ainda não violadas de Surrey. Eu (diz a Modéstia) para qualquer canto onde haja muitas heras e cortinas."
"Pois lá, e não aqui" (todas falam ao mesmo tempo, dando-se as mãos e fazendo gestos de despedida e desespero na direção da cama onde Orlando jaz adormecido) "nos ninhos e nos toucadores, nos escritórios e nos tribunais, reside ainda quem nos ame, quem nos honre; virgens e comerciantes; advogados e médicos; aqueles que proíbem; aqueles que negam; aqueles que fazem reverências sem saber por quê; aqueles que louvam sem entender; a tribo ainda muito numerosa (graças aos Céus!) das pessoas respeitáveis; que preferem não ver; desejam não saber; amam a escuridão; os que ainda nos adoram, e com razão, pois lhes demos riqueza, prosperidade, conforto, bem-estar. Vamos rumo a eles e te deixamos sozinho. Vinde, irmãs, vinde! Aqui não é o nosso lugar.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“É melhor", pensou, "portar as vestes da pobreza e da ignorância, que são os trajes humildes do sexo feminino; melhor deixar o governo e a disciplina do mundo para outros; melhor estar livre da ambição marcial, da ânsia de poder e de todos os demais desejos masculinos se assim for possível desfrutar inteiramente dos mais elevados prazeres que conhece o espírito humano e que são", falando então em voz alta, como de hábito quanto muito emocionada, "a contemplação, a solidão e o amor.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Que fantasmagoria é a mente, quantas dessemelhanças ali se mesclam! Em dado momento deploramos nosso berço e riqueza, aspirando a uma exaltação ascética; no momento seguinte, somos invadidos pelo aroma de uma velha aleia no parque e choramos ao ouvir os tordos cantando." E assim, maravilhada como de hábito pela multiplicidade de coisas que exigem explicação e anunciam alguma mensagem sem deixar a menor pista de seu significado, ela atirou o charuto pela janela e foi para a cama.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Além disso, o intelecto, conquanto divino e digno de ser reverenciado, tem o hábito de se alojar nas carcaças mais deploráveis, e com frequência, infelizmente, age como um canibal no tocante às outras faculdades, de modo que, muitas vezes, onde a mente se agiganta, o coração, os sentidos, a magnanimidade, a caridade, a tolerância, a bondade e outras virtudes mal encontram espaço para respirar.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“Pois pode haver revelação mais terrível de que se saber no momento presente? O fato de sobrevivermos ao choque só é possível porque o passado nos protege de um lado e o futuro de outro.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando

Virginia Woolf
“O presente se desprendeu dela como pingos de água fervente.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando


Reading Progress

April 30, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
April 30, 2014 – Shelved
November 26, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read-next
December 31, 2014 – Shelved as: scheduled
January 3, 2015 – Started Reading
January 3, 2015 –
page 45
13.08% "Skipped the introduction - which should instead be placed as an afterword..."
January 3, 2015 –
page 87
25.29% "Faithless, mutable, fickle, devil, adulteress, deceiver."
January 4, 2015 –
page 128
37.21% "It would be no exaggeration to say that he would go out after breakfast a man of thirty and come home to dinner a man of fifty-five at least. Some weeks added a century to his age, others no more than three seconds at most."
January 4, 2015 –
page 153
44.48% "She began to think, was Nature beautiful or cruel; and then she asked herself what this beauty was; whether it was in things themselves, or only in herself."
January 8, 2015 –
page 208
60.47% "And as all Orlando’s loves had been women, now, through the culpable laggardly of the human frame to adapt itself to convention, though she herself was a woman, it was still a woman she loved; and if the consciousness of being of the same sex had any effect at all, it was to quicken and deepen those feelings which she had had as a man. For now a thousand hints and mysteries became plain to her that were then dark."
January 9, 2015 –
page 259
75.29% "(This book is doing to me what no book so far has done: I have enjoyed bits of it - I love the idea of it! - but somehow it's not being a good read. I think I've been going through it too fast and now I feel the need to start over - even standing so close to the end. Perhaps that's an interesting lesson for me here.)"
January 9, 2015 –
page 7
2.03% "(Starting over! Decided to read the Introduction this time - if I want a different result, perhaps I should approach it differently as well.)"
January 9, 2015 –
page 45
13.08% "(After having read most of the book, reading the Introduction included in my edition didn't spoil anything; it did, however, bring me great comprehension over themes I hastily overlooked on my first read. I'm more excited now to re-start Woolf's narrative.)"
January 9, 2015 –
page 85
24.71% "Finished chapter 1 - things are looking up!"
January 9, 2015 –
page 128
37.21% "End of chapter 2 - it was a good decision re-starting this book and reading it slower this time - I'm loving it now!"
January 9, 2015 –
page 153
44.48% "End of chapter 3!"
January 11, 2015 –
page 208
60.47% "End of chapter 4!"
January 11, 2015 –
page 235
68.31% "End of chapter 5 - one more to go!"
January 12, 2015 –
page 285
82.85% "End of chapter 6 - and of this great experience!"
January 13, 2015 – Shelved as: 2015
January 13, 2015 – Finished Reading
January 16, 2015 – Shelved as: reviewed
January 16, 2015 – Shelved as: all-stars
October 18, 2015 – Shelved as: woolf
November 26, 2015 – Shelved as: 1001
December 5, 2020 – Started Reading (Hardcover Edition)
December 5, 2020 – Shelved (Hardcover Edition)
December 5, 2020 – Shelved as: to-read (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Shelved as: 2020 (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Shelved as: all-stars (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Shelved as: read-more-than-once (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Shelved as: 2nd-reads (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Shelved as: woolf (Hardcover Edition)
December 8, 2020 – Finished Reading (Hardcover Edition)

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Maria Looking forward to your review on this one! :)


Renato Maria, this book is giving me such an interesting and different reading experience! Taught me a very important lesson to start another reading year. I'll write about it in my review hopefully in the next couple of days!


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Dustin I'm looking forward to it, Renato.


Renato Dustin wrote: "I'm looking forward to it, Renato."

Thanks, Dustin! I'll probably post it tomorrow. :-)


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Dustin I'll be on the look-out. I should be writing my review of Hamlet soon, BTW.


Renato Dustin wrote: "I'll be on the look-out. I should be writing my review of Hamlet soon, BTW."

Oh, great! Can't wait to read it!


Renato Luís wrote: "I will loking to your review too,Renato.."

Thank you, Luís, I really appreciate it. I hope you like it!


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Dustin Renato wrote: "Dustin wrote: "I'll be on the look-out. I should be writing my review of Hamlet soon, BTW."

Oh, great! Can't wait to read it!"


Thank you, man.:)


Maria This book is brilliant! My admiration for Woolf grows exponentially as I read every title. Surprisingly yes, still in 2015 the transgender topic as well as many related sexuality themes are still a taboo and yet, I love how, with so much elegance, openness and beauty, Woolf approaches it... her own tribute for her love for Vita. So beautiful!
Besides this, what I enjoyed most about the book was the following, which you approached perfectly welll:
"...Woolf’s addressing to memory, time and consciousness .... Still, she was able to add her own twist to those and seemingly inverted Proust’s approach"
Who talks about such complex topics in her time in a Proustian way? She does!!! I was deeply impressed by that specifically and that's why I'm so interested in looking for a biography about her. :)
Renato... So nice to see, you decided to give in to a second time read, sure it was worth it. Your review is extraordinary. Woolf's lines are invaluable and worth reading repeatedly. :)


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IShita you have a talent with words, Renato. It's always as intriguing as pleasureful to read your reviews :)


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Diane Barnes What a brave thing to do, deciding to read again from the start because you didn't give it the attention it deserved. I admire you for that, and am glad you were rewarded with a great book. Kudos!


s.penkevich Outstanding review. You have quite the punch with your prose. Woolf is incredible, I'll have to read this one soon.


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Dolors Original approach that elevates the concept of androgyny to a complete superior level of expression, Renato. Intimate reading experiences, elusive motifs (time? there's no such thing as time!) and bold personal pronouns twist and shout out load from the screen creating a multi-faceted and utterly outstanding review. Congratulations on such an accomplished piece of writing Renato, I can't wait to read Woolf's most thought-provoking novel.


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Cheryl "But truly, what I most admired and enjoyed in this work was Woolf. I love how she comprehended and created her protagonist as someone constituted of dissimilarities and paradoxes all throughout the times."

Great point, Renato. I also like the references to memory. I've read parts of this book before during college (this is why I've never listed or reviewed it here on GR) but I do plan on reading it in its entirety this year. You've helped encourage me to do so :)


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Lawyer One of the great pleasures of reading your reviews is each is taking a journey to a new land, although you thought you had visited it before. Seeing something captured through fresh eyes upon the moment of discovery is an exhilirating experience. Your way with words, your articulate expression of the interaction between author and reader offers a pleasurable exercise that is a graceful pavane, a slow, processional between you, the reviewer and anyone that reads your interpretation of the author's work, inexorably drawing new readers creating more and more couples in a growing dance that lengthens the life of the original work. Bravo, indeed.


Rakhi Dalal Great review,Renato. And thanks for sharing your experience on reading this :-)


Jonathan Great review Renato. I read this a few years ago after the film came out. I liked the film but really liked the book. I'm hoping to read more Woolf this year and maybe even re-read those I've already read.


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Garima Excellent book and movie review, Renato. I appreciate the work you put into writing your thoughts in such a nuanced manner. Most likely this is going to be my next fiction read by Woolf.


°­²¹°ù±ð²Ô· An appealing mix of your personal response and some superb analysis. I thoroughly enjoyed your review, Renato. Thanks.


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Fionnuala I enjoyed the angle you took here, Renato, especially your comment on the trap of reading to an enforced schedule; when we make our way through the precious words and pages to which an author has devoted so much time and thought, the least we can do is to give a little time and thought to the work in return.
I love the amount of thought you gave to this work, both in the reading and in the reviewing.
The parallels/contrasts you draw with Proust's approach to time/memory are interesting. You describe Woolf's approach as a reverse of Proust's, as if the present was actually screaming for attention. I certainly found that was true in Mrs. Dalloway where Woolf punctuates Mrs Dalloway's memories with reminders of present time, the church bell's chime, the clock's tick-tocks.
Speaking of time, it is very timely to read a review of Orlando today, Renato, just when I've been mulling over the issue of whether a writer of one sex can successfully create a character of the opposite sex! Woolf creates a male character and then recreates her character as the opposite sex. Perfect!


Kalliope Very inviting review... this is one of the works by Woolf I want to read soon... and your comments have a couple of echoes.. of course, the comparison with Proust, but Fionnuala has already commented on this.. but also because I am currently reading Kassandra, which is also forcing me to go a great deal more slowly than planned... and because its handling of time, the present and the past is carried out in a very complex way... and Cassandra was the foreseer....


Sahil Sood This review should be the definitive review of the book. Wow!


Renato Maria wrote: "This book is brilliant! My admiration for Woolf grows exponentially as I read every title. Surprisingly yes, still in 2015 the transgender topic as well as many related sexuality themes are still a..."

Maria, I love you enthusiasm about the book and I'm lucky that you read it at the same time as me; actually, your comment on one of your status updates was what encouraged me to start over, as I already had reservations about not paying it the deserved attention.

Yes, Virginia was a brilliant writer. I read three of her works and consider all 3 amazing books that I couldn't rate them less than 5 stars.

I also hope to get to read a bio on her soon! Do you know which is considered the best?


Renato Ishita wrote: "you have a talent with words, Renato. It's always as intriguing as pleasureful to read your reviews :)"

Ishita, that's such a kind compliment. Thank you very much for reading and commenting on this review!


Renato Luís wrote: "Simply a wishlist book shelf.."

I hope you read it soon, Luís!


Renato Diane wrote: "What a brave thing to do, deciding to read again from the start because you didn't give it the attention it deserved. I admire you for that, and am glad you were rewarded with a great book. Kudos!"

Thank, Diane. As I was so preocuppied about following a schedule, I have to say it wasn't that easy to give it all up and simply start over. But like you said, the reward was completely worth it!


Renato s.penkevich wrote: "Outstanding review. You have quite the punch with your prose. Woolf is incredible, I'll have to read this one soon."

This compliment, coming from you - whose reviews I respect and admire so much - is really valuable to me. Thank you!


Renato Dolors wrote: "Original approach that elevates the concept of androgyny to a complete superior level of expression, Renato. Intimate reading experiences, elusive motifs (time? there's no such thing as time!) and ..."

Dolors, how happy I am to read your comment and to find out you enjoyed this review. It was a great read for me and I'm glad to have been able to convey in words the great experience it provided me.

I believe you'd love this one and, more, would write a brillian review to it.


Renato Cheryl wrote: "Great point, Renato. I also like the references to memory. I've read parts of this book before during college (this is why I've never listed or reviewed it here on GR) but I do plan on reading it in its entirety this year. You've helped encourage me to do so :)"

Cheryl, if it served you as encouragement, then I'm glad to have written it. It's a brilliant book that deserves all the attention, really. :-)


message 30: by Himanshu (new)

Himanshu Renato, another one your excellent reviews. I really liked your views about stringent reading schedules and excessive annotating because they completely resonate with mine. I didn't much enjoy Mrs. Dalloway, but I ain't giving up on Woolf, so have picked up To The Lighthouse now.


Renato Mike wrote: "One of the great pleasures of reading your reviews is each is taking a journey to a new land, although you thought you had visited it before. Seeing something captured through fresh eyes upon the ..."

Mike, what great words you throw my way. You make me want to write better reviews so I won't let you down with my ramblings! And I completely agree with "Seeing something captured through fresh eyes upon the moment of discovery is an exhilirating experience.", this is exactly what constitutes my love for both writing and reading reviews and one of literature best 'features'. Thank you being so encouraring, always, my friend.


Renato Rakhi wrote: "Great review,Renato. And thanks for sharing your experience on reading this :-)"

Thank you, Rakhi! I very much enjoyed reading your review as well and it was one of the reasons I decided to apply myself more into reading this book.


Renato Jonathan wrote: "Great review Renato. I read this a few years ago after the film came out. I liked the film but really liked the book. I'm hoping to read more Woolf this year and maybe even re-read those I've alrea..."

Thanks, Jonathan! Yes the book is better than the film, no doubt. I also hope to read more of Woolf this year, particulary A Room of One's Own!


Renato Garima wrote: "Excellent book and movie review, Renato. I appreciate the work you put into writing your thoughts in such a nuanced manner. Most likely this is going to be my next fiction read by Woolf."

How great that you plan to read this one soon, Garima. As Mike commented above, it will be a pleasure seeing the book through your fresh eyes! :-)


Renato ·°­²¹°ù±ð²Ô· wrote: "An appealing mix of your personal response and some superb analysis. I thoroughly enjoyed your review, Renato. Thanks."

Thank you, Karen. Glad you enjoyed it! I surely enjoyed this reading experience.


Renato Kalliope wrote: "Very inviting review... this is one of the works by Woolf I want to read soon... and your comments have a couple of echoes.. of course, the comparison with Proust, but Fionnuala has already comment..."

Kall, thank you for bringing Cassandra to my attention. I saw there was a group read for it, but as I has too many reads scheduled for this month, I never took a look at it. It sounds quite interesting!


Renato Fio, as always, thank you for such a good comment.

"when we make our way through the precious words and pages to which an author has devoted so much time and thought, the least we can do is to give a little time and thought to the work in return." - this is the perfect way to put it and now that I learned my lesson I'll definitely follow this.


"I certainly found that was true in Mrs. Dalloway where Woolf punctuates Mrs Dalloway's memories with reminders of present time, the church bell's chime, the clock's tick-tocks." - That's true. I never realized that also happened in Mrs. Dalloway! I think it'll be interesting re-reading it now that I've read Proust. I find it very interesting that she uses sounds to bring a character back to the present, as an image wouldn't work as well, because in mind's eye is taking all control when our mind is wandering through time. It's an interesting battle of the senses, in a way.


"just when I've been mulling over the issue of whether a writer of one sex can successfully create a character of the opposite sex!" - we wondered about that in our group read of Ulysses after the Penelope episode. I asked the ladies there if they thought Joyce had done a good job of depicting a feminine mind and the consensus was that they could definitely detect a masculine presence in there.

Again, thank you for your comment! :-)


Cecily "Virginia made a decision to not explain or address too much the sex change... as all gender issues should be, for they’re not, in my opinion, much more than a simple detail that constitutes us such as our height and weight -, I wanted to at least acknowledge here on my humble review how brilliant she was for writing so bravely"

With gender issues opening up in public debate, this book can perhaps be viewed in a new light?


message 39: by Michael (new)

Michael Masterful, engaging, insightful--what more could a potential reader ask in terms of guidance on a reading choice? You are so wise to take account of you the reader as a person in accounting for the impact of a book. Your approach to rebooting your expectations is a method that makes a lot of sense. This one seemed so different from the four other works of hers I enjoyed that I was never willing to take that step of accommodation. Now maybe I can.


message 40: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict Excellent thoughts! Added to my tbr.


Renato Sahil wrote: "This review should be the definitive review of the book. Wow!"

Sahil, that's a very kind thing to say. I'm happy to see you enjoyed this review so much. Thanks a lot! :-)


Renato Marita wrote: "Excellent review!"

Thank you, Marita :-)


Renato Cecily wrote: "With gender issues opening up in public debate, this book can perhaps be viewed in a new light?"

I surely hope so, Cecily! The sad thing is that - almost over a century later - we still haven't reached an utopia that Virginia wrote so long ago: the day gender issues and everything that surronds them will just be as natural as changing clothes.


Renato Michael wrote: "Masterful, engaging, insightful--what more could a potential reader ask in terms of guidance on a reading choice? You are so wise to take account of you the reader as a person in accounting for th..."

Michael, it's very different indeed but as rewarding as the other two I've read so far (Mrs. Dalloway and To the Lighthouse). I'm glad to see my review at least inclined you a bit into giving Orlando a chance.


Renato Himanshu wrote: "Renato, another one your excellent reviews. I really liked your views about stringent reading schedules and excessive annotating because they completely resonate with mine. I didn't much enjoy Mrs...."

Himanshu, thank you! Very satisfied you liked this review and even more that you're reading To the Lighthouse. I'm very interested in reading your thoughts about it!


Renato B the BookAddict wrote: "Excellent thoughts! Added to my tbr."

Thank you, B! Glad to see you now want to read it.


Cecily Renato wrote: "The sad thing is that - almost over a century later - we still haven't reached an utopia that Virginia wrote so long ago: the day gender issues and everything that surronds them will just be as natural as changing clothes"

True - but that's a fairly modern/western perspective: many non and pre-colonial societies had and have more fluid ideas about gender. Coincidentally, a friend posted this article yesterday, which I found fascinating:



Renato Cecily wrote: "True - but that's a fairly modern/western perspective: many non and pre-colonial societies had and have more fluid ideas about gender. Coincidentally, a friend posted this article yesterday, which I found fascinating:
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Cecily, thank you for this link! I had never heard of Two Spirits before. That's very interesting but it was sad to read that not even in the gay community Etcitty felt the welcome we would expect.

And it's funny you mentioned that older societies had more fluid ideas about gender. One thing that I've been discussing with friends recently is that here in Brazil, contrary to what was expected, my generation, who had everything to be completely open and free, is turning into a very close-minded and prejudiced generation. I wonder if that's happening all around?


Duane Parker Great review Renato, I like your understanding of Virginia Woolf. Like James Joyce, Woolf is not an "easy" read for some. The Waves is my favorite Woolf novel and I look forward to hearing your thoughts when you read it.


Renato Duane wrote: "Great review Renato, I like your understanding of Virginia Woolf. Like James Joyce, Woolf is not an "easy" read for some. The Waves is my favorite Woolf novel and I look forward to hea..."

Duane, I'm really anxious to read The Waves. The things I've heard about it and the great reviews from friends I've read tell me it's a very special book, and I hope to recognize it as such. It'll probably be the next Woolf I'll read, and hopefully soon. Thank you for your comment here!


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