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Tom wrote: "Barbara wrote: "Sherry wrote: "Tom wrote: "Barbara wrote: "J all kinds of (close) relatives accused each other of witchcraft. Husbands accused wives and vice versa. In-laws were convenient targets...."

Yes but they used religion as an excuse for their agendas. Good people follow religions and greedy, and selfish people use any means they can to sell what they want. Religion was a great way to do that back then.

Horns by Joe Hill
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This book was so good Joe Hill is Stephen King Son and IMO
He writes like his old man! this is the 3rd book from him I have
read and Love!


The End Game by Catherine Coulter & J.T. Ellison
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3rd in their FBI Brit Series I liked it but IMO the other 2 was
alot better

Alert by James Patterson
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#8 In his Michael Bennent series It was good

Way too late last night I finished Murder in the First-Class Carriage: The First Victorian Railway Killing, by Kate Colquhoun. It's a nonfiction book about a crime committed in England in 1864.

I just finished Iron Lake, the first in a series of mysteries featuring Minnesota native Cork O'Connor. I was very impressed. My review is here.

I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are several in this category that come to mind. The book I always quote for this is James Joyce's Ulysses. I have never read such rubbish, and defy anyone to have finished it and say that they enjoyed it! Reading it is torture to the soul!

Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are several in this..."

What book does 'it' refer to? Certainly not Iron Lake.

Tom wrote: "Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are..."

I think she may mean A Clockwork Orange.

Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are several in this..."

One person's rubbish is another person's treasure.

I've never read A Clockwork Orange. The movie was on Netflix but I think Kubrick directed it. He tended to drastically change things. The movie was icky and I wound up skimming through it.

Sherry wrote: "I've never read A Clockwork Orange. The movie was on Netflix but I think Kubrick directed it. He tended to drastically change things. The movie was icky and I wound up skimming through it."

It was most definitely a very, very difficult film to watch. I saw it twice and wished I hadn't the second time through.

Dystopia at its most bizarre.

Clockwork Orange: I tried to read it when the movie came out but couldn't finish it, I walked out of the movie. Just not my cup of tea with iron filings in it.

Sherry wrote: "I've never read A Clockwork Orange. The movie was on Netflix but I think Kubrick directed it. He tended to drastically change things. The movie was icky and I wound up skimming through it." don't bother about the book, I gave up reading it, I just read the summary I know it's lazy but I can't waste my time on books I don't like, I have lots of books to read. The only classic that I enjoyed so far is Dorian Grey even Great Gatsby was disappointing sorry I know people love that book it made me fall asleep. It seems those books labelled as "classics" are boring and I have shelve of them since I am writer I figured it's best to read them as they enhance my writing.

Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are several in this..." I have James Joyce's Ulysses didn't read it yet but your warning is noted.

Denise wrote: "Clockwork Orange: I tried to read it when the movie came out but couldn't finish it, I walked out of the movie. Just not my cup of tea with iron filings in it."

I read it as a teenager on a bus traveling across country. I was basically a captive audience. It took a long while to get the dialect down but once I did I was hooked. The movie didn't impress me nearly as much.

Joanne wrote: "Sherry wrote: "I've never read A Clockwork Orange. The movie was on Netflix but I think Kubrick directed it. He tended to drastically change things. The movie was icky and I wound up skimming throu..."

I don't think it's lazy to close a book you don't like. I also don't think we have to force ourselves to love the classics. There are so many genres to choose from. Most reading is recreational so we should enjoy it. I like some classics but my list of classics is small. Some people love them . That's fine too :)

Top-ranked sniper Kyle Swanson was a promising young Marine on a dangerous peace-keeping mission in Mogadishu, Somalia when he first captured a ruthless warlord known as 'the Cobra'. It could have cost Swanson his life - had it not been for the schoolteacher who risked her own to save him.

Twenty years later, many things have changed for Kyle Swanson, his life, his job is about to change , then an old rival and enemy comes back into his life and causes chaos in Minnesota.

Now the battle and the chase is on, in this tremendous book.

My first novel by this author, although I know I have started on "Book 8" on the great character Kyle Swanson, a marine sniper, and one of the best, I know for sure I will have to buy all seven previous books and read.

The character Kyle Swanson is a marine sniper, just like the author Jack Coughlin, so you know you are getting great detail, realistic story, fantastic action, with locations across the world.

Let's just get the facts out why I loved this book.

Told in sections, the first being in 1992, then present time, and then the chase.

Full of gripping tension, fast paced, action packed, thrilling, shocking, strong, realistic.

A great story, that makes me want to read the next story, and the previous seven.

I do not want to say too much on the story, just read it and enjoy !

This author will become one of my favourites if he keeps this standard up, alongside greats like
Mark Dawson, Tom Wood, David Baldacci, Lee Childs, Chris Ryan.

Many reviews have marked and reviewed this has possibly his best book.

I loved it and five stars from me.

Great to find new authors

Finished listening to White Heat by M.J. McGrath and I'm glad I listened to it because I would not have appreciated the Inuit words. The setting near the Arctic Circle was intriguing and the descriptions of Inuit life enlightening. Decent mystery too.

To balance the cold of the Arctic, I finished a light mystery set in a South Pacific island resort A Plot to Die For by C.A. Larmer.

Currently reading Woman with a Gun by Phillip Margolin and listening to About Face by Donna Leon

Joanne wrote: "Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a classic. There are..."

I read Ulysses - with a group at my library. But I did finish it and overall I did enjoy it. And the more the times it is read the more it is enjoyed. It is the first time that is the struggle. But there are books to aid in the quest, including Ulysses Annotated and The New Bloomsday Book: A Guide Through Ulysses.

I just finished Lilac Girls which I enjoyed.
My review, 4/5
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I have started Oblivion by Sergei Lebedev I am finding it slow going. It is a GR giveaway.

So I have also started a NetGalley review book Murder in an Irish Village

Tom wrote: "Denise wrote: "Clockwork Orange: I tried to read it when the movie came out but couldn't finish it, I walked out of the movie. Just not my cup of tea with iron filings in it."

I read it as a teena..."
I watched the movie yesterday so I could understand what the book was about. I found the movie rather interesting, dark but disturbing I enjoyed it more than the book (a rare case). It's listed as one of the conversational movies of all time I didn't think it was all that shocking there are movies that are much worse today like "irreversible" that features a 10 minute rape scene I remember stopping the movie because it was so hard to watch.

Jan C wrote: "Joanne wrote: "Kathryn wrote: "I think it is one of those books where people think that if they didn't understand it, it must be good! I didn't enjoy it either, and yet it is held up there as a cla..."

I bow before you! It was a book I was forced to read at university as part of my Literature course more than 35 years ago and hated reading every page! You are one of the few people I know that has a) finished the book, and b) enjoyed it!

Joanne wrote: "Tom wrote: "Denise wrote: "Clockwork Orange: I tried to read it when the movie came out but couldn't finish it, I walked out of the movie. Just not my cup of tea with iron filings in it."

I read i..."

I have to ask this: If you only read the summary, how can you say you liked the movie better?

Back on topic: I'm making my way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror, which I'm liking (with reservations) but I was hoping for something a bit more comprehensive. I'm also about 70 pages from finishing a German gothic novel called The Man Who Sees Ghosts by Friedrich Schiller from 1789, which I'm loving. Up next in crime is a novel from Argentina, Claudia Pineiro's newest Betty Boo.

Finished up Woman with a Gun by Phillip Margolin. Terrific story, well written. It was the first book by Margolin that I've read but I'll look for more.

Continuing the international setting theme I've been on, I started Random Violence by Jassy Mackenzie set in contemporary South Africa.

Just finished reading by Jack Nolte

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Nancy wrote: "Back on topic: I'm making my way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror, which I'm liking (with reservations) but I was hoping for..."

I thought Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror was okay. I had certain quibbles with it. My review - /book/show/2..., for what it's worth.

Jan C wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Back on topic: I'm making my way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror, which I'm liking (with reservations) but I ..."

which page is your review on? I couldn't find it.

I tried to read that book but as a former early SDS member, protestor, activist, etc. I just kept rolling my eyes at how the guy tried to make demonstrations seem like mob riots - 99% of protests were organized and calm, followed by music and love-ins. There was violence but not as prevalent as this guy makes out. I couldn't continue with the book.

Denise wrote: "Jan C wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Back on topic: I'm making my way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror, which I'm liking (with reserv..."

Well, the way I read it, I don't really think he's talking about your 99% here. He's doing sort of a bigger-picture look at some of the "revolutionary" groups who actually did resort to violence. He's not trying to cover the entire 60s or 70s or the entire history of the protest movement in America. After this I'm reading Black Against Empire: The History and Politics of the Black Panther Party, which is a more comprehensive look at the Black Panther Party. Smaller, more focused histories are always better for information.

Nancy wrote: "Denise wrote: "Jan C wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Back on topic: I'm making my way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the First Age of Terror, which I'm liki..."

Some people seem to think it was with this "First Age of Terror" subtitle - it was not as prevalent as he is talking about. I knew many underground people who were not sworn to violence. I worked with the Black Panther Party in a very revolutionary way (not meant sarcastically) in helping to provide free breakfasts and lunches to poor children. This was not an atypical revolutionary agenda and far from any kind of "Age of Terror."

The author would have to go quite a way back to America's "First Age of Terror" - even before the bombing of Wall Street in 1920.

Actually, the subtitle is listed incorrectly on goodreads --I didn't check before I linked. It's actually "America's Radical Underground, The FBI, and the Forgotten Days of Revolutionary Violence." He's not saying everyone was sworn to violence. And there actually were more radical factions of the BPP who were very much into promoting violence. Most, however, were mainly into their communities. I just watched a PBS show about the BPP - a segment of Independent Lens - where former BPP members told the story. If you can find it, it's great.

I think it is important to recognize where Burrough comes from. His father was a prosecutor, possibly with US Attorney, not sure where. But this could color his views.

I felt like he kind of let the police off lightly. I only know about the things that happened in Chicago. And he certainly let the "Red Squad" off. I couldn't even stand the way he covered Fred Hampton's murder/slaughter. So there was a lot about the book I didn't like.

But it was still worth reading.

Nancy wrote: "Joanne wrote: "Tom wrote: "Denise wrote: "Clockwork Orange: I tried to read it when the movie came out but couldn't finish it, I walked out of the movie. Just not my cup of tea with iron filings in..." if you scroll above I said I read the book almost to the end but I gave up, so I read the summary of how it ends as I couldn't take it any more than I saw the movie to see why the movie is so shocking :)

Jan C wrote: "I think it is important to recognize where Burrough comes from. His father was a prosecutor, possibly with US Attorney, not sure where. But this could color his views.

I felt like he kind of let t..."

I'm only about a third of the way through (just getting to the BLA) so I can't really make a judgment as of yet. I will say that it's kind of like a "radical group 101" kind of read for me -- I'll be narrowing things down with other books as well.

Reading Trust No One by Paul Cleave

Jan C wrote: "I think it is important to recognize where Burrough comes from. His father was a prosecutor, possibly with US Attorney, not sure where. But this could color his views.

I felt like he kind of let t..."

Although I didn't finish the book and you give one of the reasons - his POV - others being sexism and overlooking how police radicalized many people through their brutal actions, - I agree with what you didn't like, but I can't give a fair assessment for the whole book obviously. I know the police over-reaction at the Democratic convention in Chicago radicalized many people. I was just standing there doing nothing but trying to stay out of the way when wham! with the club. How Daley and others in power in other situations lead police behavior was appalling.

I think the subtitle that included "First Age of Terror" was the original title of this book and that is really how the author thinks about it. Thankfully, an editor along the way pointed out the hyperbole but failed to point out the rest of it inside the book.

Barbara wrote: "Reading Trust No One by Paul Cleave"

Are you liking it? I was thinking of picking it up for my husband -- he loves thrillers. I let him have all of the arc thrillers I'm not going to read but I'm always on the lookout for something new for him.

I'm reading Year Zero: A History of 1945,

A Friar's Bloodfeud

and listening to No Shred of Evidence

Started reading (ARC) by David Baldacci

I finished The Patriarch by Martin Walker.

In this 8th book in the series Police Chief Bruno Corrèges of St. Denis, France investigates a suspicious death, deals with an obsessive environmentalist, prepares gourmet meals, and more. Enjoyable mystery in a beautiful setting.
3.5 stars

My complete review:
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Nancy wrote: "Barbara wrote: "Reading Trust No One by Paul Cleave"

Are you liking it? I was thinking of picking it up for my husband -- he loves..."

So far I'm liking it Nancy. It's different from the average thriller/mystery.

Barbara wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Barbara wrote: "Reading Trust No One by Paul Cleave"

Are you liking it? I was thinking of picking it up for my husba..."

Let me know. I'm not a thriller person so I rely on opinions of people who enjoy them.

I just finished Phantom Lady by Cornell Woolrich. You may want to read this if you enjoy noir fiction but you may find the plot a bit over the top. My review is here.

I'm starting an ARC of Carrying Albert Home: The Somewhat True Story of A Man, His Wife, and Her Alligator by Homer Hickam. I love the gentle humor of the first few pages.

Denise wrote: "Jan C wrote: "I think it is important to recognize where Burrough comes from. His father was a prosecutor, possibly with US Attorney, not sure where. But this could color his views.

I felt like he..."

I head many tales of people just walking down the street and getting clubbed or maced - not connected to the Yippies or anything. Just minding their own business. I was in the Conrad Hilton that night and the gas came pouring in. Luckily, a kid ran in from outside to tell people what to do. For some reason, I found myself in the hotel the next day and it smelled really vile.

Denise wrote: "I'm reading Year Zero: A History of 1945,

A Friar's Bloodfeud

and listening t..."

I found Year Zero very informative. Things happened in 1945 that I had never heard of.

Jan C wrote: "Denise wrote: "I'm reading Year Zero: A History of 1945,

..."

I agree! I've read so much WWI, interwar years and WWII but immediate postwar WWII is amazing. He covers so many subjects and of necessity not in depth but somehow doesn't just gloss over them either. I'm learning a lot.

Back Blast is now up

I'm starting Harry Bosch # 9 Lost Light

Crystal I love the Harry Bosch Series. I am on book # 20 which I will be reading next month.

I just finishedShadow Man, and i loved it! Smoky Barrett Series
I am now reading A Dark and Twisted Tide
Lacey Flint #4