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2017 Challenge prompts > A book with an unreliable narrator

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message 101: by Megan (new)

Megan | 361 comments Amy wrote: "We Were Liars"

Ugh. I hated that book. Pretentious garbage.


message 102: by Stina (last edited Jan 27, 2017 12:36PM) (new)

Stina (stinalyn) | 464 comments I'm about one-third through The Traitor Baru Cormorant and thinking this qualifies. Any thoughts from somebody who has already finished it? I know it's third-person, but it's such a close third-person that it feels like first-person much of the time.


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Stephanie McFet | 3 comments Brain on Fire by Susannah Cahalan was my pick for this category. Great book!


message 104: by Kami (new)

Kami | 2 comments I was thinking What Alice Forgot by Liane Moriarty would work for this category. You are seeing the word through Alice's eyes after she lost 10 years of her memory and is really not a reliable source about her own situation.


message 105: by Tami (new)

Tami Bellinger | 9 comments Does Emma by Jane Austen count as an unreliable narrator? I'm not using this for the prompt but was curious as I am reading it now.


message 106: by Jackie (new)

Jackie | 718 comments Tami wrote: "Does Emma by Jane Austen count as an unreliable narrator? I'm not using this for the prompt but was curious as I am reading it now."

I don't really think so. Emma's approximately as reliable as any other person. You could say none of us are reliable narrators, especially as regards our own lives, but to me that's being a bit more philosophical than the spirit of the prompt.


message 107: by Brooke (new)

Brooke | 273 comments Kami wrote: "I was thinking What Alice Forgot by Liane Moriarty would work for this category. You are seeing the word through Alice's eyes after she lost 10 years of her memory and is really not a reliable sour..."

I've read that book and would agree that it qualifies for this prompt. I enjoyed the book. It is a fast read!


message 108: by Claire (new)

Claire Robinson (gzxklair) | 0 comments I'm sorry if this has been asked! But would Girl on the train for under this category? Thanks!


message 109: by Brooke (new)

Brooke | 273 comments Claire wrote: "I'm sorry if this has been asked! But would Girl on the train for under this category? Thanks!"

I would say it does....


message 110: by Shelly (new)

Shelly | 123 comments Claire wrote: "I'm sorry if this has been asked! But would Girl on the train for under this category? Thanks!"

Yes. I think it definitely would.


message 111: by Marcy (new)

Marcy | 6 comments I just finished this book - enjoyed it - and no idea it was an "unreliable narrator" until I read it. It's narrator is an 11 year old girl and I spent much of the book thinking....is she right on this? or is it her perspective? .. The Mutual Admiration Society by Lesley Kagan


message 112: by Claire (new)

Claire Robinson (gzxklair) | 0 comments Thank you ladies for the responses! :)


message 113: by Kristen (new)

Kristen (bibliophilekms) | 2 comments Stephanie wrote: "There is a list of Unreliable Narrator books on GR. I'm going with Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson a book that was on my TBR list already anyway."

Do you have a link to this list?

Also, does anyone know if Good As Gone would count for this topic?


message 114: by Roachie (new)

Roachie Rachel wrote: "What about I Never Promised You a Rose Garden? I read this once before but I have no memory of it whatsoever, but the main character has schizophrenia."

It's been a while since I've read that one, too. But I seem to recall the delusions being fairly easy for the reader to identify and separate from reality? The topic seems to be on point, though.


message 115: by Roachie (new)

Roachie I'm planning to read Suicide Notes, because it pretty much starts out with the narrator saying, "I'm not crazy," but he's being kept in a some kind of mental care facility for 45 days.

If that doesn't work, I've also got a copy of Autobiography of a Schizophrenic Girl


message 116: by Sheila (new)

Sheila (knitsheila) is anyone reading We aerial Liars? Would this work for this prompt?


message 117: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9546 comments Mod
I read it a few years ago, it works for this.


message 118: by Sheila (new)

Sheila (knitsheila) Nadine
Thank you for your response.


message 119: by Siobhan (new)

Siobhan (notphonetic) | 53 comments Tami wrote: "Does Emma by Jane Austen count as an unreliable narrator? I'm not using this for the prompt but was curious as I am reading it now."

Emma's not the narrator of Emma


message 121: by Jackie (new)

Jackie | 718 comments Paulien wrote: "a series of unfortunate events, does that count?"

I'm going to go with a soft no. He's more mysterious than unreliable. I could see the argument though.


message 122: by Fride (new)

Fride I just finished We Have Always Lived in the Castle for this prompt, and I absolutely loved it. Read it in a day. Recommended!


message 123: by Kate (new)

Kate | 29 comments I'm struggling with this category ... I'm not really sure what it means by "unreliable narrator", is it books written from multiple perspectives or something different? Can anyone recommend any books that may give me a clue? :)


message 124: by Nadine in NY (last edited Feb 28, 2017 08:59AM) (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9546 comments Mod
An unreliable narrator is a book from the point of view of someone who is (intentionally or unintentionally) misleading you about who she/he is and/or about the events unfolding in front of her/his eyes. For example: If the person is psychotic and seeing things that don't exist; if the person is a con artist running a scam; if the person is a criminal lying to you, etc. As the story unfolds, you gradually realize that the point of view is unreliable in some way.

In Lolita, (view spoiler)

In Fight Club, (view spoiler)

In Gone Girl, (view spoiler)

In We Were Liars, (view spoiler)

In Made You Up, the main character struggles with schizophrenia.

In Before I Go to Sleep and in What Alice Forgot, the main character has a form of amnesia that prevents her from remembering things.

A mystery novel in which a detective is solving the mystery is usually NOT an unreliable narrator, so long as the detective accurately describes each event that unfolds in front of him/her as the book moves forward.


message 125: by Kate (new)

Kate | 29 comments Nadine wrote: "An unreliable narrator is a book from the point of view of someone who is (intentionally or unintentionally) misleading you about who she/he is and/or about the events unfolding in front of her/his..."

Thanks, that really helps! I've read Gone Girl and Before I Go to Sleep before, but I know what sort of thing to look for now. :) Also, I reckon I Let You Go by Clare Mackintosh may fall into this category, and if not it's still a fantastic book that's well worth a read!


message 126: by Carrie (new)

Carrie | 71 comments In the Lake of the Woods by Tim OBrien is a great book that fits!!!


message 127: by Jackie (new)

Jackie | 718 comments Kate, an unreliable narrator is one whose version of events isn't trustworthy. That could be from a number of causes: deliberate deception (the narrator is either hiding what actually happened or is trying to manipulate the reader's interpretation of what happened), an inability to accurately relate events (caused by drug/alcohol use, mental illness, etc), or a distorted point of view (ex: a child, animal, etc who would naturally interpret events differently than an adult).

The key to an unreliable narrator is that they aren't trustworthy. Approach it like a police officer listening to someone's statement. Even if they don't have a lot of information to give you, can you accept their statement as likely to be true? Do you have a reason to believe that they are lying to you? Are they a capable witness?

Probably one of the best examples is The Murder of Roger Ackroyd. It's a murder mystery told from the 1st-person point of view of one of the people in the town who was a close friend of the victim. His closeness with everyone involved naturally means you as the reader have to question his interpretation of people and their actions. Is he right about so-and-so's behavior? etc. Obviously with a murder mystery, it's incredibly spoiler-able so if you decide to pick it up (which you should) I suggest going into it cold.


message 128: by Josie (new)

Josie | 23 comments a list from bookbub


message 129: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 32 comments I started We Were Liars and found it fit well for this prompt and looked back and saw it was recommended a few times.


message 130: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalyn) | 464 comments Would Planetfall count for this? Ren holds a lot of stuff back from the reader, but she tells you straight up that she is doing that.


message 131: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9546 comments Mod
Stina wrote: "Would Planetfall count for this? Ren holds a lot of stuff back from the reader, but she tells you straight up that she is doing that."


Sure. I think the unreliable narrator doesn't have to hide the fact that they are unreliable. Sometimes they are upfront about it.


message 132: by Kate (new)

Kate | 29 comments Does Second Life by SJ Watson count for this? :)


message 133: by Keri (new)

Keri | 43 comments Found one to fit this category by accident...All Grown Up by Jami Attenberg.


message 134: by Carla (new)

Carla (hidingmyheart) | 19 comments Just finished The Lifeboat for this prompt. I enjoyed it but I think I was expecting something more from it that it didn't really deliver. The ending in particular was rather disappointing.


message 135: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 33 comments I read The Remains of the Day for this category. Despite its conciseness, it's richness lies in what is unsaid more than that which is said (and what is said is written in beautiful language. I love Ishiguro's work). In this respect, the unreliability of the narrator becomes an integral component of the story, in my opinion.

I can also think of The Sense of an Ending which would fit this prompt.


message 136: by Maureen (new)

Maureen | 21 comments The Passenger by Lisa Lutz


message 137: by Jule (new)

Jule Monnens (kaferlily) | 38 comments I read The Walls Around Us for this challenge. Has anyone else read it? I found it more of a ghost/paranormal? story. I suppose both Amber and Violet could be considered unreliable, but it certainly was not what I expected in terms of unreliability. Would really like to discuss with someone else who has read it.


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Sara Grace (bassoonsara) | 123 comments I'm Thinking of Ending Things I read last year, really quick read. Not going to say anything else, just read it!


message 139: by Kate (new)

Kate | 6 comments Jule wrote: "I read The Walls Around Us for this challenge. Has anyone else read it? I found it more of a ghost/paranormal? story. I suppose both Amber and Violet could be considered unreliable,..."

I have read it, and really enjoyed it. Though it doesn't automatically spring to mind as being part of the unreliable narrator category, I can see the argument for that, and maybe it should. Certainly there is some misremembering and some active repression going on. And of course there's the paranormal aspect.


message 140: by Lily (last edited Mar 25, 2017 11:30AM) (new)

Lily (joy1) | 61 comments 2108 Tami wrote: "Does Emma by Jane Austen count as an unreliable narrator? I'm not using this for the prompt but was curious as I am reading it now."

Tami -- for a fascinating statement on the point of view of Emma and of the only fairly recent understandings of some of the literary innovations of Jane Austen, try this article from the Guardian.

A question that arises to me from it is the extent to which Austen's use of free indirect discourse introduces an element of unreliable narration, even as the narrator remains omniscient -- if that is even a good question.

"It was only in the early 20th century that critics began agreeing on a name for it: free indirect style (a translation from the original French: style indirect libre). It describes the way in which a writer imbues a third-person narration with the habits of thought or expression of a fictional character. "



"Emma, published 200 years ago ...., was revolutionary not because of its subject matter: Austen’s jesting description to Anna of the perfect subject for a novel � 'Three or four families in a country village' � fits it well. It was certainly not revolutionary because of any intellectual or political content. But it was revolutionary in its form and technique. Its heroine is a self-deluded young woman with the leisure and power to meddle in the lives of her neighbours. The narrative was radically experimental because it was designed to share her delusions. The novel bent narration through the distorting lens of its protagonist’s mind. Though little noticed by most of the pioneers of fiction for the next century and more, it belongs with the great experimental novels of Flaubert or Joyce or Woolf. Woolf wrote that if Austen had lived longer and written more, 'She would have been the forerunner of Henry James and of Proust'. In Emma, she is." (Bold added.)


message 141: by Baroness Ekat (new)

Baroness Ekat (baronessekat) | 117 comments I finished this prompt this week and hated the book.

I went with Room

There is a reason I just generally avoid this genre of book. I'm not going to go into what I disliked about it here... my review is up on the book's page.


message 142: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Michelle wrote: "I think [spoilers removed] would be an excellent choice but also spoilery..."

I don't think it's a spoiler to tell us the title. But I do agree. I loved that book!


message 143: by Marta (new)

Marta (gezemice) | 78 comments I've just read The Blind Assassin - which was absolutely stunning, although it took a while to get there. The narrator tells a story but deliberately omits information - until you realize that the story is in the omissions and everything is something else. I am going to use it for this prompt because it is a hard one to fill - it is difficult to know in advance which narrator is reliable (for example I don't think Rebecca has an unreliable narrator, she is just uninformed).


message 144: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9546 comments Mod
Marta that sounds really interesting, and I'm also undecided on what to read for this category. But I really did not like The Handmaids Tale so I am not enthusiastic about another Atwood book. Was THT written the way all her books are written? I didn't like the writing style and had issues with several plot holes.


message 145: by Sara Grace (new)

Sara Grace (bassoonsara) | 123 comments Just read The Girl Before and I think it would fit this prompt.


message 146: by Charlie (new)

Charlie | 1 comments Would Things We Have In Common by Tasha Kavanagh fit this category?


message 147: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Marta wrote: "I've just read The Blind Assassin - which was absolutely stunning, although it took a while to get there. The narrator tells a story but deliberately omits information - until you real..."

Loved that one too!

Nadine - so sorry you didn't like Handmaid's Tale, but most of her books are different from each other. I personally didn't see many things the same - other than the fact that both feature strong female characters.


message 148: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9546 comments Mod
Thanks! I'll give Atwood another try - she's certainly very popular!


message 149: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) One of my favorite authors --- and people!!


message 150: by Pioup (new)

Pioup | 54 comments Speaking of Margaret Atwood, has anyone read Alias Grace? I wondering if it would fit.


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