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message 1: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Participants:
Mrs J
Doodles
Christa


message 2: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments I'm ready to start reading this tonight if you ladies are ready.


message 3: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Boom! I'm in. I was just thinking I need to read something.


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments I double that boom!
I'm ready :D


message 5: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Excellent! So I guess, just update progress as desired and use spoiler tags if not everyone has stated they are past a given point.

Or something. I'm sick. Hard to think. LOL


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments Lol! That sounds pretty good though :)


message 7: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Me,t oo


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments I read the first 3 chapters last night, really enjoying it so far! I like the way they write :)
Also, it has mentions on InuYasha, that gives bonus points LOL!


message 9: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments I'm at about 22%, I think. That's the last number I remember before closing my Kindle and going to sleep. :) I'm really enjoying it!


message 10: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments :-D


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments So, MrsJ, you've read if before? But Christa haven't?
I lost track xD


message 12: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Yup.

It's a good un


message 13: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Yes, this is my first read. :)


message 14: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments I'm on page 289. O_O

Where are yall?

I have to say that I forgot how annoying Declan was.


message 15: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments I'm at 39%. My ebook version doesn't have pages, so I'm estimating that I'm at about pg 120-ish? And Doodles isn't far behind me.


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments Yea I'm on 36%, about to start chapter 11 if that helps :P

I'm really enjoying it so far :D


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments I'm on 51%, have not been reading a lot the last few days.
Still liking it though :D


message 18: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments So. I've totally finished and I'm working on re-reading the re-read.

Because yes, I am CDO like that.

^.^

So, what do yall think of Declan's behavior?


message 19: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Well, he is a bit... smug. But part of me feels like he's just living up to Rose's expectations of him. LOL I like him better than "I'm just gonna show up places like it's not creepy at all" William. Speaking of, it's killing me that I'm at like 40% and Rose still hasn't sniffed out that something is very OFF about that boy.

Declan doesn't hesitate to help people, even if he does take off their roof in the process...


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments Totally agree that it's annoying that Rose hasn't figured out that something is off about William yet...

And yes Declan is smug, but in a weird way I like him. It almost feels he acts overly smug just to wind Rose up sometimes :D


message 21: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Made it to 70% last night.


message 22: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments I felt like she knew something was off with him - I think she didn't quite put her finger on it (because Jack) because it wasn't unfamiliar.

I have to say that I really liked the different type of shifter IA does in this series. She doesn't get props for that.


message 23: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments True. But right up until she talks with Declan and realizes, she keeps having those thoughts like "why can't I like a normal boring guy like William..." But yeah, I realize her "normal" is a bit different than us mere mortal Broken denizens. :D

Yes, there are a lot of systems and things in this that I like. Oh, and Jack... How adorable. LOL


message 24: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Christa wrote: "True. But right up until she talks with Declan and realizes, she keeps having those thoughts like "why can't I like a normal boring guy like William..." But yeah, I realize her "normal" is a bit di..."

:-D


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments I love both the little boys :D
Will try to catch up tonight! :P


message 26: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments I'm finished! :)


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments Yay!
I went to bed early last night planning to finish. Fell asleep immediately... LOL


message 28: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments LOL Well, whenever you go get finished... I have a few words to say about William. Boy, do I. Talk about subverting shifter stereotypes...

(Actually, no one talks about subverting shifter stereotypes. But whatever.)

:D


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments LOL :D


message 30: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Christa wrote: "LOL Well, whenever you go get finished... I have a few words to say about William. Boy, do I. Talk about subverting shifter stereotypes...

(Actually, no one talks about subverting shifter stereoty..."


Don't you love William?


message 31: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments MrsJoseph wrote: "Christa wrote: "Don't you love William? "

LOL

He's such a... Nice Guy.


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments Finished! Got a bit late last night though, I'm so tired today!! LOL

Tell me all Your feelings on William! :P

I really enjoyed it. I would like to read what happened to Jack and George after they moved though, if their Magic got stronger and stuff.
Are the other books in the series about the same characters?


message 33: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments DoodlePanda wrote: "I really enjoyed it. I would like to read what happened to Jack and George after they moved though, if their Magic got stronger and stuff.
Are the other books in the series about the same characters? "


Jack and George show up again in The Edge book #3. And in Innkeeper #2.


message 34: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments DoodlePanda wrote: "Tell me all Your feelings on William! :P"

Oh, William... LOL

So we know that in the Weird, changeling children are separated from everyone else and sent off for training, condition, what have you. The dangerous unstable ones are most likely to end up trained killers. We know William ended up in the Red Legion, and everything that happened with Declan, etc.

We know he's emotionally damaged. We know he's dangerous if he chooses to be, or if he's backed into a corner. We know he's got complex shit going on. We know he's been through hell.

So Ilona Andrews decide to distill this complexity down into a sit-down convo with a very unstable but stereotypical Nice Guy because "Why do you like him and not me?"

Like, I get it. But really? This could have been handled better. LOL I liked everything surrounding that bit, but that convo between Rose and William on the porch steps caused me to roll my eyes so hard I had to put them back in place by hand.


message 35: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Christa wrote: "Like, I get it. But really? This could have been handled better. LOL I liked everything surrounding that bit, but that convo between Rose and William on the porch steps caused me to roll my eyes so hard I had to put them back in place by hand. "

LOL!

You know, I felt that same way the first time I read it.

Then I read Bayou Moon. The way shifters are in the Edge is that they are more like...children regarding emotional matters. They don't get it and are very...animalistic in their emotional responses. The girl William ends up with has a family member who dated a shifter. The advice she was given was something like "don't mess with him if you don't want him forever cause he'll not understand and kill anyone who touches you. And possibly you, too."


message 36: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments Oh, I agree with you. I just think the conversation itself could have been written in a better way to highlight all of that instead of distilling it down to look like Nice Guy Syndrome, you know? I feel like they didn't do William enough justice there.

I really like everything about how changelings are done here, and William seeing how Jack's been raised vs. how things are done in the Weird, and his statement that he was going to stay and fight for Jack.


message 37: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Christa wrote: "Oh, I agree with you. I just think the conversation itself could have been written in a better way to highlight all of that instead of distilling it down to look like Nice Guy Syndrome, you know? I..."

Oh, yes.

So much this. That scene with Jack and William made my heart hurt a little.

What I WISHED Rose had said to William was "You do have family. You have Declan. You're like a brother to him and he was (and is) willing to risk almost everything to help you." I think he could have understood that.


message 38: by Christa, The Renewed (new) - rated it 4 stars

Christa (christaw) | 1447 comments YES! Exactly. I feel like we got so close to hitting that mark but just didn't get there. William's emotions are almost primal in their purity, he feels what he feels and his lack of opportunity for proper development has left him with a child-like need to have a clear reason for potentially changing those feelings.

He feels adult feelings, but processes them like a child.

Rose has the tools for dealing with this. We know that by seeing how well she's done with Jack and George. And I feel like she understands it, and all the elements were almost there but it just didn't quite make it onto the page.

You know, you can tell how much I like the book and the world building, because if I didn't, this one part wouldn't bother me nearly as much. LOL


message 39: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Resident Book Pusher (new) - rated it 5 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 3289 comments Christa wrote: "YES! Exactly. I feel like we got so close to hitting that mark but just didn't get there. William's emotions are almost primal in their purity, he feels what he feels and his lack of opportunity fo..."

IKR?

I love the world building, too. I have to say that the entire Edge series has some of the most interesting worldbuilding ever. What I HATE is that IA went pretty dark for me starting in William's book.

Though, I have to say, Rose's book wasn't exactly bright and airy, lol. But I know why I feel this way about Bayou Moon but I don't want to say because Holy Spoilers, Batman!


DoodlePanda | 1226 comments I agree, that conversation between Rose and William was a bit lacking. I had the same feeling when I read it. I was expecting... more? LOL

The world building is definitely the best part of the book :D


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