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However, I tend to think of it as popcorn fantasy, it's not overly taxing to read, it's not trying to be fancy and subverting tropes, it's just bit of a fun and escapism. I do classify Terry Brooks's books in this category. I don't know if that helps at all, but that was my first thought.

No elves and dwarves but has some dragons, The Realm of Elderling books by Robin Hobb, starting with The Assassin's Apprentice.
Slightly mythical fantasy you can also try Juliet Marilier's Blackthorn and Grim trilogy.
You might possibly like Sullivan's Riyria series (starts with Theft of Swords). While there are elves & dwarfs, they aren't much in evidence (neither are they in ASOIF, which you listed as example.)
OTOH, I found Prince of Thorns far more grimdark than The Blade Itself, so what do I know?
OTOH, I found Prince of Thorns far more grimdark than The Blade Itself, so what do I know?


whereas in First law and ASOIAF the main story is there's a dark evil but everything is already depressing and screwed up and someone smiled once so we immediately and him killed



I second this recommendation!

Jennifer Roberson's Cheysuli books (lots of magic/shapeshifting, though I don't remember any fantasy species like elves or dwarves)
For an m/m romance that might fit the description, you might try Llyn Flewelling's Luck in the Shadows books


that second options sound food but I am looko g for elves and dwarves for generic fantasy it can be hard to find lol
and finally I'm not intrested in M/m romances. I like m/f or f/m I don't much care for the F/F stuff either though sometimes that's done really well lol


Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams is fantastic in every sense of the word. There's Japanese-like elves, Irish-like folk, Inuit-like dwarves (sort of), romance, swords, sorceries, a terrifying villain...If you've read LOTR and ASOIAF, then this series is the perfect mixture of both.
Also, though I've not yet read it, the Shadowmarch series, also by Tad Williams.

No elves and dwarves but has some dragons, The Realm of Elderling books by Robin Hobb, starting with The Assassin's Apprentice.
Slightly mythical fantasy you can also..."
Seconded - you MUST read Robin Hobb. Everyone must read Robin Hobb. Easily my favourite author. RotE is amazing, Soldier Son very good too - but that isn't the kind of thing you requested.

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Also, Saul, your description of Memory, Sorrow and Thorn really makes me want to read it! On the TBR list it goes!
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Basically it should be high fantasy (Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, Orcs etc...) with a human or elf protaganist (Male or female but if its female please not a mary sue) with all the things that make a good book plus a romance. I honestly thin k most books arnt complete without a romance (and if possible a happy ending romance instead of the sad one) for a guide to the romance think something like the romance in Legend or Old Man's War.
also no grimm dark like First Law where everyone is awful and the world is awful an horrible. Fantasy should be just that a fantasy. Dark fantasy is welcome and encouraged, like Prince of Thornes or Legend
some books i already read so no need to mention them:
First law trilogy (So bad no idea why people love it)
Prince of Thornes (Love it so much)
Anything by Gemmel
Greatcoats series by De Castiel (Awesome)
Elfstones of Shannara
Red Knight (First book amazing rest is meh)
Black company
LOTR
ASOIAF
Acaica trilogy (No idea how i finished this tripe lol)
Faithful and fallen (Jury's still out)
I know its a lot to ask for but i trust this book exists somewhere out there. And if anyone knows what it is it will be the awesome people who frequent this forum.
Thanks in advance