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message 1: by SRC Moderator, Moderator (last edited Sep 05, 2017 03:25AM) (new)

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30.2 -- MAZZA1’S Task: Six Degrees of Separation
I don’t know why but I am always amazed at how I can read several books, one after the other, with connecting storylines or character names. This got me thinking about the idea that everything in the world is connected by six degrees of separation.

The task requirements include the following:
� This is a TWO book task. Read one Book 1 AND one Book 2.
� The total page count of the two books must be at least 666 pages.
� No books with the main page genre of “children’s� or “kid’s� may be used.
� All requirements that mention "Title" excludes subtitles.

Book 1: Read a book with one of the words of this task’s title (excluding “of�)--SIX, DEGREES, SEPARATION--in the title of the book. No variations are allowed. Six must be written out as a word and the word "Degrees" must be plural. Subtitles are excluded. Ex: Six Encounters with Lincoln: A President Confronts Democracy and Its Demons by Elizabeth Brown Pryor

Book 2: Read a book related to Book 1 by one of the following degrees of separation. Book 2 may NOT be by the same author or about the same character or person as Book 1.
NOTE: Examples for Book 2 are based on the example Book 1: Six Encounters with Lincoln: A President Confronts Democracy and Its Demons by Elizabeth Brown Pryor

A) Read a book written by an author with the same first or last name as Book 1's author. Middle names should be ignored. Book 2 may NOT be by the same author as Book 1. If the book(s) have multiple authors, only one author must meet the requirement. Ex: The author of Book 1 is Elizabeth Brown Pryor. Book 2 could be a book by Elizabeth Gilbert or Karen Pryor.

B) Read a book with a Main Character of the same name, first or last, as the Main Character in Book 1. Book 2 may NOT be about the same character as Book 1. The character MUST be listed in the Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ metadata as a character, listed in the title of the book, or mentioned in the book's description. Ex: The Main Character of Book 1 was Abraham Lincoln. Book 2 could be Wake Of The Werewolf with the main character Abraham Stroud or Mrs. Lincoln's Dressmaker with Mary Todd Lincoln as the main character.

C) Read a book with a rating separated by no more than 0.3 in either direction from Book 1's rating. Ex: Book 1 has a rating of 3.65. The rating for book 2 must fall between 3.35 and 3.95. Tales From The Crib would work. Its rating is 3.41.
NOTE: Ratings can change quickly. You may want to get rating verified in the Help Thread and include a link to the verification message when you post, just to be safe.

D) Read a book of the same genre as Book 1. (ONLY main page genres count and the genres must be EXACT). Ex: Book 1 has the genre Military History > Civil War on its main page. Book 2 could be Confederates in the Attic: Dispatches from the Unfinished Civil War because it also has the genre Military History > Civil War on its main page. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks would also work because both books have History listed as main page genres.

E) Read a book in which the page numbers consist ENTIRELY of the numbers seen in the date of FIRST publication for Book 1. Ex: Book 1 was first publish on 07/02/2017. Book 2's page count may only contain the numbers 0, 1, 2, 7. The Solitude of Prime Numbers would work. Numbers may only be used as often as they appear in the date.


F) Read a book with a title that includes all of the initial letters of the TITLE for Book 1. Subtitles may not be used. Ex: The first letters of all the words in Book 1's title are SEWL. Book 2 could be Songs of the Humpback Whale

Required: State which option Book 2 fits and provide any required information when you post.


message 3: by Marie (UK) (last edited Oct 13, 2017 05:02AM) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Approvals for Genre option
Separation Zone and Etched in Bone (MPG's Fantasy> Paranormal)
Six and a Half Deadly Sins and Valour and Vanity ( MPGs Historical > Historical Fiction)
A Separation and Miss You (Contemporary OR Fiction)
/book/show/5... and The Night Circus (Fiction)
Five, Six ... Grab Your Crucifix and Magpie Murders (Mystery)
Six Moon Summer and Fire & Ash (Young adult)
Six Impossible Things and I Kissed an Earl (Romance > Historical romance)
Victim Six AND In the Woods (crime> Mystery)
Six Degrees of Scandal AND Some Kind of Hero (Romance)


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message 6: by Bryony (new)

Bryony (bryony46) | 350 comments This is a great task! Before I spend too much time choosing book two, could I check that The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Six Other Stories will work for book one. Thanks!


message 7: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments yes Bryony the six is in the title and if any of the stories are those i read recently with the Benjamin Button story you are in for a treat


message 8: by Bryony (new)

Bryony (bryony46) | 350 comments Thanks Marie, and great to hear it should be a good read.


message 9: by Suzanne (new)

Suzanne (perletwo) | 1586 comments Could you lock in my two choices for current ratings?

Six of Crows currently has a rating of 4.46.

The Help currently has a rating of 4.45.

Thanks :D


message 10: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Suzanne wrote: "Could you lock in my two choices for current ratings?

Six of Crows currently has a rating of 4.46.

The Help currently has a rating of 4.45.

Thanks :D"


Ratings noted Suzanne


message 11: by Sandi (last edited Aug 20, 2017 03:29AM) (new)

Sandi Barnes | 548 comments Because I've chosen my books based on the rating within .03 of each other, I'd like to lock this in:

Book #1 -- Six in Title
Six Seconds
Most popular paperback edition 469 pp
rating 3.83

Book #2 -- within .03 rating of book #1
Color Tour
paperback edition 292 pp
rating 3.85

Total page count 761

ETA: Now that I've posted this, I see they both work for main page genre of Mystery or Thriller as well.


message 12: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Sandi wrote: "Because I've chosen my books based on the rating within .03 of each other, I'd like to lock this in:

Book #1 -- Six in Title
Six Seconds
Most popular paperback edition 469 pp
rati..."

those are good to go


message 13: by Sandi (new)

Sandi Barnes | 548 comments Thanks!


message 14: by Christine (new)

Christine | 897 comments Option 2A stipulates, "Book 2 may NOT be by the same author as Book 1." Is that rule applicable only when using Option 2A, or does that apply for all Book 2 options?

For example, if I read The Six Wives of Henry VIII by Alison Weir for Book 1, could I read Katherine of Aragon, the True Queen by the same author for Book 2D matching the genre "Historical"? Thanks!


message 15: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Christine wrote: "Option 2A stipulates, "Book 2 may NOT be by the same author as Book 1." Is that rule applicable only when using Option 2A, or does that apply for all Book 2 options?

For example, if I read [book:..."


Hi Christine I have thought about this and asked moderator opinion and we feel that it goes against the spirit of the task. I will therefore say no to this as it would break the rule for option 2a. However you have raised a point that neither I nor the moderators had thought of. A moderator will change the task wording to properly exclude using the same author or same main character for all options but this may take a day or two to show up. I hope you find something else that will work


message 16: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3550 comments Would Six and a Half Deadly Sins work? The Six isn't hyphenated, so it does stand alone


message 17: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Trish wrote: "Would Six and a Half Deadly Sins work? The Six isn't hyphenated, so it does stand alone"

approved


message 18: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3550 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "Trish wrote: "Would Six and a Half Deadly Sins work? The Six isn't hyphenated, so it does stand alone"

approved"


Great. Thank you.


message 19: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 1237 comments Brilliant task! Challenging but doable.


message 20: by Cat (new)

Cat (cat_uk) | 3293 comments option F - the initial letters of book one can be anywhere in the title of book 2, right? they don't have to be matching initials?


message 21: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Cat wrote: "option F - the initial letters of book one can be anywhere in the title of book 2, right? they don't have to be matching initials?"

anywhere in the title the example book for Book 1 has an S E W L and in the second book the S and W are initial letters in words but the E and L are not


message 22: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Chris wrote: "Brilliant task! Challenging but doable."

thanks some of the options are easier than others but all doable i think


message 23: by Christine (new)

Christine | 897 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "Hi Christine I have thought about this and asked moderator opinion and we feel that it goes against the spirit of the task. I will therefore say no to this as it would break the rule for option 2a. However you have raised a point that neither I nor the moderators had thought of. A moderator will change the task wording to properly exclude using the same author or same main character for all options but this may take a day or two to show up. I hope you find something else that will work '"

Okay, thanks for clarifying! I have lots of History and Historical Fiction on my TBR, so I'm sure I'll find something else for Book 2. Great task!


message 24: by Christine (new)

Christine | 897 comments Could you please approve these books for Option C?

Book 1: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, current rating 4.1
Book 2, Option C: Dissolution, current rating 4.08

Thanks!


message 25: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Christine wrote: "Could you please approve these books for Option C?

Book 1: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, current rating 4.1
Book 2, Option C: Dissolution, current rating 4.08

Thanks!"


ratings noted


message 26: by Christine (new)

Christine | 897 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "Christine wrote: "Could you please approve these books for Option C?

Book 1: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, current rating 4.1
Book 2, Option C: Dissolution, current rat..."


Oops... I just realized that Thomas Cromwell is listed as a character on the metadata for both of these books. I think that would violate the rule against the same main character, correct? Sorry, I will keep looking! I will get this right eventually. ;-)


message 27: by Christine (new)

Christine | 897 comments Okay, I think I might actually have a pair that will work. Could you please approve these books for use with Option C?

Book 1: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, current rating 4.1
Book 2: The Eyre Affair, current rating 3.92

Thanks so much for your patience! Hopefully all my bumbling will help others avoid my mistakes. :-)


message 28: by Marie (UK) (last edited Aug 21, 2017 02:53PM) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Christine wrote: "Okay, I think I might actually have a pair that will work. Could you please approve these books for use with Option C?

Book 1: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, current rating 4.1
Book 2: ..."


I hadn't noticed the characters and don't worry about supposedly bumbling it is the nature of this challenge
yes these work and the jasper Fforde series is one of my favourites


message 29: by Deborah (new)

Deborah | 1633 comments For approval:

Going for option D:

Separation Zone Fantasy > Paranormal
with
Etched in Bone Fantasy > Paranormal


message 30: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Deborah wrote: "For approval:

Going for option D:

Separation Zone Fantasy > Paranormal
with
Etched in Bone Fantasy > Paranormal"


approved


message 31: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3550 comments Quick genre question for 2D. Does "Fiction" count as an acceptable genre for matching? Or is that just too easy?


message 32: by Marie (UK) (last edited Aug 22, 2017 11:26AM) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Trish wrote: "Quick genre question for 2D. Does "Fiction" count as an acceptable genre for matching? Or is that just too easy?"

any genre on main page counts Trish as long as it is exact - if you think about is Historical, Science fiction Contemporary must all have thousands of matches fiction is just the same


message 33: by Trish (last edited Aug 24, 2017 01:01AM) (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3550 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "any genre on main page counts Trish as long as it is exact - if you think about is Historical, Science fiction Contemporary must all have thousands of matches fiction is just the same

Cheers. I think I have my combination, if you could lock the genres for me. Thank you.

Six and a Half Deadly Sins - shelved as Historical > Historical Fiction by 13 users

So using that genre for book 2:

Valour and Vanity
Shelved as Historical > Historical Fiction by 92 users


message 34: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Trish wrote: "Marie (UK) wrote: "any genre on main page counts Trish as long as it is exact - if you think about is Historical, Science fiction Contemporary must all have thousands of matches fiction is just the..."

approved


message 35: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3550 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "Trish wrote: "Marie (UK) wrote: "any genre on main page counts Trish as long as it is exact - if you think about is Historical, Science fiction Contemporary must all have thousands of matches ficti..."

thanks


message 36: by Sally (new)

Sally (sallysimply) | 537 comments Can I have my picks verified for Contemporary (or Fiction or Adult)?

A Separation

Miss You


message 37: by Bryony (new)

Bryony (bryony46) | 350 comments Please could you verify The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Six Other Stories and The Night Circus as both having fiction as an MPG.

Thank you!


message 38: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Sally wrote: "Can I have my picks verified for Contemporary (or Fiction or Adult)?

A Separation

Miss You"


they will work for fiction and contemporary they won't work for Adult as the match is not exact


message 39: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Bryony wrote: "Please could you verify The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Six Other Stories and The Night Circus as both having fiction as an MPG.

Thank you!"


they both work for Fiction and you have picked 2 of my favourite books there


message 40: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (melissaboedigheimer) Can you please note the ratings for these books?

Book 1: Six of Crows 4.46 rating
Book 2: Before We Were Yours 4.44 rating

Thanks!


message 41: by Sally (new)

Sally (sallysimply) | 537 comments Marie (UK) wrote: "Sally wrote: "Can I have my picks verified for Contemporary (or Fiction or Adult)?

A Separation

Miss You"

they will work for fiction and contemporary they won't w..."


Good thing I looked for books that had multiple matches - I had a feeling at least one of the MPGs would change. Hooray!


message 42: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Melissa wrote: "Can you please note the ratings for these books?

Book 1: Six of Crows 4.46 rating
Book 2: Before We Were Yours 4.44 rating

Thanks!"


yes they work


message 43: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments I am going away for the week, I will still have internet access but may not be here as often. I have castles to build on the sand and memories to create with my grandson


message 44: by Lagullande (new)

Lagullande | 387 comments Hi Marie. Hope you're having a good holiday.

I have checked the Rules and FAQs for an answer to my query but I'm still not sure.

I was thinking of listening to Six Months that Changed the World: The Paris Peace Conference of 1919. But the top paperback version (there is no MMP) has the word SIX in its subtitle Paris 1919: Six Months That Changed the World. Does that mean that my audiobook won't work as my Book 1?


message 45: by SRC Moderator, Moderator (new)

SRC Moderator | 6794 comments Mod
Lagullande wrote: "Hi Marie. Hope you're having a good holiday.

I have checked the Rules and FAQs for an answer to my query but I'm still not sure.

I was thinking of listening to [book:Six Months that Changed the ..."


Mod Note:
We go by the edition that you read for task fit- titles, authors, etc. The paperback is just used to determine page numbers


message 46: by Terri FL (new)

Terri FL (territhemuse) | 615 comments For option E regarding page numbers, can you use a number more than once even if it doesn't appear in the data more than once? For instance, if my published date is 12/01/1999, can I read a book with 212 pages as the 2 is twice but only once in the published date. I think it's fine because the task doesn't say you can only use as many as appears, but, just wanted to double-check! Thanks!


message 47: by Diana (new)

Diana Keener | 798 comments Can you please note the ratings for these books?

Book 1 Six Years 3.8 rating
Book 2 Médicis Daughter: A Novel of Marguerite de Valois 3.78 rating

Thanks.


message 48: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (bookwrm526) | 2011 comments bookwrm526

Hi, I just wanted to get a main page genre notation for these two books! Both have Mystery as a main page genre.

Five, Six ... Grab your crucifix and
Magpie Murders.

Thanks!


message 49: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Terri FL wrote: "For option E regarding page numbers, can you use a number more than once even if it doesn't appear in the data more than once? For instance, if my published date is 12/01/1999, can I read a book wi..."

no you can only use the numbers as they appear in the date


message 50: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3740 comments Diana wrote: "Can you please note the ratings for these books?

Book 1 Six Years 3.8 rating
Book 2 Médicis Daughter: A Novel of Marguerite de Valois 3.78 rating

Thanks."



ratings noted and work


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