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annapi wrote: "How do you find out how many you have read off the list? I couldn't ..."

Anna, at the top right of each list page, it will tell you how many you've read and how many are on your tbr. Hope that helps!

LibraryCin wrote: "Anna, at the top right of each list page, it will tell you how many you've read and how many are on your tbr..."

Thanks! I feel like an idiot for missing that, LOL.

annapi wrote: "Thanks! I feel like an idiot for missing that, LOL."

No worries!

Sushicat wrote: "Ellen wrote: "Yes, it was a tough decision! I chose
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The Most Disturbing Book Ever Written"

Looks like this would be g..."
I've read 35 of the first 100, Sushicat, so I think we have the same kind of mindset!

I have read 13 of this list, the disturbing book, which surprises me because it’s a category I try to stay away from.

So many interesting lists!!!!

I've read 33 of the most disturbing books. Twilight is on the list. I wonder what their definition of "disturbing" is...

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The Most Disturbing Book Ever Written

The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus by Richard Preston
5 stars

A shipment of monkeys to a suburban Washington DC scientific research center carried a deep, dark secret. The animals were infected with Ebola and soon after arrival in the US the animals began to die. Originally from Africa, the monkeys were shipped to Manila and then on to the US. Once the animals became sick it was discovered that they were suffering from Ebola which would kill 90% of them. The Army, the CDC and the research center worked together to contain the virus before it could spread to the human population. Not knowing if contact with the virus would infect people, extreme high-level bio-containment measures were followed including the wearing of space suits, decontamination showers and air locks within the building.

This is quite a horror story and is frighteningly true. What Ebola does to a body, animal or human, is beyond imagining. I had no idea and now I will never forget it. The author does an outstanding job of tracing the spread of AIDS and Ebola, which are similar in some ways. Probably the scariest message from the book is that no one knows what the original carrier of Ebola might be. It could be anything and it is still out there.

Alright, I have changed my list a few times. I debated because I didn't want to set myself up for failure, but I also wanted a bit of a challenge. I finally decided to go with something a bit more outside my norm without being too outside the norm. This is the official one. I have only read 1 of the top 100 and have 2 on my to read list.

A&M Historical Fiction Group Recommended Reading

Amy wrote: "No Joi, you are youthful and perfect and have more sophisticated reading taste!"

Aww you are too sweet, Amy.

Also officially deciding on my list, and I'm copying Ellen and reading:

The Most Disturbing Book Ever Written

My List: Cult Classics.
I had not realized I had read so many cult books. I just didn't know.
Is this all I need to do to get participation points--this and post in the appropriate place, something I will fogure out after I read book on this list?

Kathleen wrote: "Are we able to change our listopia list or are we locked in once we start?"

I believe the rules state that you are locked in once you've declared your list.

Cynda wrote: "My List: Cult Classics.
I had not realized I had read so many cult books. I just didn't know.
Is this all I need to do to get participation points--tjks an post in the appropriate place, something..."

There is an opportunity to earn points for this Listopia challenge, which Nicole R outlined in Post # 1 of this thread. But those points won't be awarded until the end of this year.

If you've already read many/most of the books on your chosen list, you might want to pick another list. Because you'll have to read 6 or more books from your chosen list in 2018.

Aside from special challenges / games ... You get participation points by reading and reviewing any book each month. You get TWO participation points for every book for which you post a review in the monthly TAG reviews FOLDER - for January 2018 it's SCIENCE. You get ONE point for every book for which you post a review in the NOT THE TAG monthly FOLDER.



I know it's a bit overwhelming for a new member, but once you get going it's really very easy. Welcome to the group!

Book Concierge wrote: "Cynda wrote: "My List: Cult Classics.
I had not realized I had read so many cult books. I just didn't know.
Is this all I need to do to get participation points--this an post in the appropriate pl..."

Thank you Book Concierge for your help. Just a couple of more questions.
~ I would like to read 6 or more selections off the cult books list chosen. Will only those books on the first page that rate 1 - 100 count on for the listopia challenge? Or may I read books on the succeeding pages? I can select 6 more cult books this year from the first page--Just looking at options :-)
~ I successfully added a science book I read this month to the group's science tag/list. Does that mean that my review is posted to the correct place? I wrote the review for another group eaelier tjis month. As soon as I posted to this group's sciemce list I did everything group members do to participate in a basic way. I cam add nicieties later, after I get the basics.
Thank you Book Concierge for your help.

Cynda wrote: "I successfully added a science book I read this month to the group's science tag/list. Does that mean that my review is posted to the correct place?"

Cynda, I don't see your review in the Science folder for this month. I hope my vision isn't getting so bad I can't read anymore...but I was looking for your name in the column "started by" and couldn't find it. Here is the link to the Science folder: /topic/group... You need to start a new topic (click on "new topic" in the upper right side of the page) with the book title in the description.

annapi wrote: "Cynda wrote: "I successfully added a science book I read this month to the group's science tag/list. Does that mean that my review is posted to the correct place?"

Cynda, I don't see your review i..."

Thank you Annapi. I am writing my review now. Question: Everytime read something for this group do I post at this same place, including my listopia items?
How do you remember to go to this place to post? The link is not easy to remember, largely because it is long and detailed.
Thank you Annapi.

Cynda - I sent you a private message with more helpful hints.

My list: Diversity Bingo 2017

Book #1: The Hate U Give - #1 on list
Rating: 4 stars
Finished: 1/19

This is the story of Starr, a young black girl who lives in a ghetto, but goes to a private primarily white school. She was being driven home from a party with a childhood friend, Khalil, when the two were pulled over for a broken tail-light. Things go very wrong and her friend is killed by the officer and she is the only witness.

First and foremost, I think that this is a very important story and it should be required reading for high school students. Thomas covers a lot of ground about the challenges of growing up in the black communities where gangs, drugs and guns are prevalent. Opportunities for making money legally are few and far between which lead to the choices such as selling drugs for money or eating. The killing of an unarmed black teenager is a "ripped from the headlines" story and Thomas does a great job of showing the perspective of the black community to the incident and specifically the many emotions that Starr goes through as she deals with the incident and the aftermath.

All that being said, the intended audience is young adults, and I am quite a few years beyond that target. While the events of the story were horrific, there were some area where I felt like there was some of the punches were pulled. For example, Khalil was a rumored drug-dealer, (view spoiler) but whether that is true or not should not distract from whether or not killing and unarmed teenager should be acceptable. Also, while I loved Starr's family and Aunt and Uncle, I'm not sure that very many kids actually have that type of support structure.

In summary, this is a very read-able, very timely story which exposes a very different side of life that most do not see.

@Cynda and all,
You only get participation points if you list is voted one of the 3 categories listed OR if you read a book that is on your list + is the tag for the month.

Also, you can read any book on the list (not just the first page or top 100). Therefore, it is good to chose long lists.

@Kathleen, have you already read and posted a book on your list? If so, I think that you are locked in. The rules state that you need to pick the list in January, so I can check with Nicole R, but since it's still January, I think you can change it (if you haven't read and posted anything).

JoLene wrote: "@Cynda and all,
You only get participation points if you list is voted one of the 3 categories listed OR if you read a book that is on your list + is the tag for the month.

Also, you can read any ..."

Hi JoLene
So Listopia Challenge gets no points by itself? Example: I will read The Little Prince next week. I will not get any points if Little Prince does not qualify for tag for the month. But I can still read Listopia Challenge and hang out here?

I will also be reading from the tag list and posting reviews there, like I did on Science tag with Astrophysics for People in a Hurry. And on that review I get points, right?

Thanks for being patient with me.

Cynda wrote: "JoLene wrote: "@Cynda and all,
You only get participation points if you list is voted one of the 3 categories listed OR if you read a book that is on your list + is the tag for the month.

Also, yo..."

Hi Cynda!

Here's a quick summary on how you can get points and how many you can get:

1. Read a book for the tag and post a review - 2 points
2. Read a book that doesn't fit the tag and post a review - 1 point
3. Read a book from your Listopia list that also fits the tag - 2 points plus 5 bonus points for a total of 7 points
4. Read a book from your Listopia list that doesn't fit the tag and post a review in Other books - 1 point

Hope that helps!

Then, at the end of the year, we will also be "judging" the Listopia contest as described in the rules, and a few people will get bonus points for winning!

Kathleen wrote: "Are we able to change our listopia list or are we locked in once we start?"

Hi Kathleen,

I am going back to your question many posts ago about changing your list. The admins chatted and you may change your list if you like. BUT, any books read from your prior list will not count.

So, after you start reading, that will pretty much lock you in unless you want to start over from scratch.

This applies to everyone and I will change the rules at the top of the page! Sorry, for the change, but after chatting we felt like this was fair.

Nicole R wrote: "Kathleen wrote: "Are we able to change our listopia list or are we locked in once we start?"

Hi Kathleen,

I am going back to your question many posts ago about changing your list. The admins chat..."

This also permits new members who join us after January to participate . . .it's still a very doable challenge even for late comers.

Anita wrote: "Nicole R wrote: "Kathleen wrote: "Are we able to change our listopia list or are we locked in once we start?"

Hi Kathleen,

I am going back to your question many posts ago about changing your list..."

Great point, Anita!

That change totally makes sense.... thanks for point it out.

One question (Not that I think I'll change my Listopia ... but you never know)

I'm assuming that if I read a book from my # 1 Listopia that matched January's tag (earning 5 bonus participation points), that if I subsequently CHANGED my listopia list, that in addition to starting over to read 6 books from the list, those bonus participation points from the first list would also go away.

(I hope that made sense ...)

Oh BC, I can always count on you to ask wild hypotheticals that likely will apply to no one! Lol

Yes, you will lose those bonus points. Changing your list doesn’t impact anyone other than the reader while bouncing around lists and picking up bonus points seems less fair.

Anita wrote: "Cynda wrote: "JoLene wrote: "@Cynda and all,
You only get participation points if you list is voted one of the 3 categories listed OR if you read a book that is on your list + is the tag for the mo..."

Thank you so much Anita!
I can use this info.
I think when I read and post here more, I will begin to understand better.
Thanx again :-)

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Book 1: The Black Echo by Michael Connelly

Link to my review:
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Nicole R wrote: "Oh BC, I can always count on you to ask wild hypotheticals that likely will apply to no one! Lol

Yes, you will lose those bonus points. Changing your list doesn’t impact anyone other than the read..."

In my defense ... I'm taking a muscle relaxer for a pulled muscle in my back ... and it's making me totally loopy. The first dose my husband was actually worried about me. But after that I've been taking just a half-pill at a time.

Hello. I am exiting the Listopia challenge. I have enough other reading obligations to keep me busy for the rest of the year. I apologize for any inconvenience. I will continue with the reading tags.

Cynda wrote: "Hello. I am exiting the Listopia challenge. I have enough other reading obligations to keep me busy for the rest of the year. I apologize for any inconvenience. I will continue with the reading tags."

No worries at all, Cynda! It was kind of you to let us know :)

Kathleen wrote: "/list/show/3...

To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
2 stars

I wanted to love Virginia Woolf. I foun..."

I'm so with you on this one Kathleen. I couldn't agree with your assessment more.

Edited:
After thinking on it, I am also going to take a pass on the Listopia challenge. Trying to keep things low stress this year and I want to make sure I have time to read a book for the monthly tag, and maybe the decathlon task. Thanks for understanding. :-)

Noting, the book I had added to the group's bookshelf for the Listopia challenge (The Little Prince) has been removed, so I don't mess up the PBT books stats.

List:
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Book Read: The Little Prince.....

Olivermagnus wrote: "I haven't made a selection yet but I'm going to read books off this list:

Best Modern Australian Literature"

This is a bit of a delayed reaction Olivermagnus, but there are some wonderful books on that list. I have read many of them and hope to read many more. I look forward to reading your reviews throughout the year.

From Around the World Through Fiction
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England
The Summer Before the War
(also cross-posted to Decathalon - Linda's list)
This is very much a story of family relationships. The relationship of the two cousins, Hugh and Daniel with each other and their relationship with Aunt Agatha. The main character Beatrice and her new friend Celeste both have an adoring relationship with their fathers, though Beatrice's father is deceased, but in both cases they are betrayed by them. Agatha and her husband John have a lovely relationship. The relationship of Snout to his parents, his grandmother, and his sister is another brief story line.

I really like Simonson's writing and will probably read most anything she writes. Beatrice is a wonderful character, strong and determined to make her own way. Agatha Kent is another strong female character but a woman of her time and she, at one point, caves into those mores. She has gone against convention to bring Beatrice to the town of Rye as the new Latin teacher, it gets her into a battle of wills with the mayor's wife.

Although the title is the summer before the war, it leads right into World War I and the hardships of the families. A lovely story and a well done audio.

So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you place it like any other review. In either the tag for the month folder or the other books folder. And if your book or your list happens to match the tag of the month, you have to put Listopia in the title to get extra five points. I can do that for sure in February, and I have that part down. Now the question that remains for me, is if there is anything else we need to do? is it like honor system? Some people are putting their reviews in their member tracking threads, others are posting them on this thread. I don't feel personally like I need to post the same review more times than I need to - so is it okay if I for example on this thread say something like:

Listopia List: Remarkable Women in Historical Fiction.

Book One, The Other Queen by Phillippa Gregory, read January 2018, review can be found in the other folder for January 2018.

Book Two: Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China, Read February 2018, review can be found in Asia in February 2018.

Or do I not use this thread at all? Is there another central Listopia reporting thread, and how should we use it? This seems to be the thread where we announced our lists. Should we just do titles and dates? or do you want the full reviews repeated here?

SouthWestZippy wrote: "Sabrina wrote: "I'm going to use this list: Favorite Travel Books."

Oh, this looks like a fun list. I have a lot of them but have not heard of many of them. I am trying so hard not to add to many ..."

I haven't started on this list because I keep waffling about whether I want to use this list! I keep thinking I want a list with more exciting list name! Weird, huh?

The books do look good, so I will probably stick with this list.

Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you place it like any other review. In either th..."

From the original post where Nicole R outlines the parameters of this challenge:
Please post your reviews here including a link to the list that you read from.

I usually type up my reviews in a word document first, so I can edit and make sure it says what I want. I then summarize it into a short review which includes a link to my full review. I use that shorter review for all my other groups, and when I need to post a review in a challenge thread like this one (I post the full review only in PBT's monthly tag thread or monthly "not-the-tag" thread.)

Example of short review

Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you place it like any other review. In either th..."

I think what you are proposing is fine. You can post your reviews in the monthly threads and then write a post here that shows the following:

1. Link to your list
2. Book title and Link to your review

We are pretty flexible. We just want to make sure we give you your participation points, ensure that you continue to use the same list, and have one point of reference for the end of the year when we will be doing the voting/prizes.

Anita wrote: "Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you place it like any other review. ..."

Another stupid question from another quarter. I've never figured out how to add a link to the review! You probably put it somewhere - in FAQs?

Thanks Barbara, I was just about considering we’re going the points and suggesting an honor system since I would have no idea how to either link to the list or to the review. People always tell me it’s easy. And then there directions don’t make sense to me. Probably because I have a big wall up around it. My mind goes blank. However, the low-tech singer psychologist and lover of spirituality, Has in fact made a decision. In an incredibly small and teeny way, I’m going to get on Facebook next month. I just have to have someone show me how to do all the privacy settings and teach me how to use it. Seriously, it took me over a year to put up Alexa echo in the house. And now we just love that. It’s totally changes the feeling of the house to have music so Easley at your fingertips. Anyway, this is just to say that my low tech reputation precedes me. I may need to get on the phone with someone to teach me how to do it.

Barbara wrote: "Anita wrote: "Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you place it like any ..."

I'm not sure we've ever put it anywhere, but basically, you open the thread where you wrote your review. Then, you copy the URL that displays in your browser bar and paste it here.

Like so:

/topic/show/...

I just linked to my Soul of an Octopus review.

If this isn't clear, please private message me with your real email address, and I can send you some screen shots to clarify!

The Most Disturbing Book Ever Written
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Lord of the Flies - William Golding
4 stars

A small group of English schoolboys survive a plane crash on a deserted island. Their ages range from about 6 to 16 and almost none have any camping or survival training. One of the older boys, Ralph, seems to have a calm demeanor in the face of the unknown; the boys quickly vote him to be their leader. Another of the older boys, Jack, chafes under Ralph's leadership but agrees to the election...for now. At first the boys see the lack of adult supervision to be quite a lark. They can do whatever they please without recriminations. For Ralph, always in the back of his mind is the desire to be rescued. He leads the others in building huts and starting a fire on the top of the island's mountain hoping that smoke will attract passing boats or airplanes. As the days pass Jack becomes bolder in his campaign to become leader. He and his followers become more savage and two horrific tragedies drive the boys to become hunters...of Ralph.

Well, this certainly went to dark places. This was quite a good adventure story with friendships, jealousies and even a 'scary beastie'. Ralph was a sympathetic character who always seemed to have the good of the boys in mind. Jack was a sinister youngster who had to be #1 or else. Unfortunately, either by intimidation or wanting to belong, he easily swept the other boys to his side. Once things turned ugly they got really, really ugly. I enjoyed (?) this story.

Anita wrote: "Barbara wrote: "Anita wrote: "Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place it where you pl..."

OK, that's pretty straightforward for me but I guess what I really love is when someone posts the link but its hidden behind the "Link to my Review" statement. I guess that's just aesthetics and not really necessary!

It isnt, Barbara, but I will show you later how to do it. Frankly it is a giant pain . . .

OK - so I found my original review in January other books. But where is the URL link I am supposed to cut and paste? On the top of my safari bar, it just says goodreads.com? I'm telling you, I need a full tutorial. Possibly by phone. And before that January folder disappears.... I get it that this is simple for virtually anyone else on the planet. I have embarrassment and shame galore!

Amy wrote: "OK - so I found my original review in January other books. But where is the URL link I am supposed to cut and paste? On the top of my safari bar, it just says goodreads.com? I'm telling you, I need..."

Click on where it says Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.com. make sure the whole text is highlighted. press Command + C. This will copy the web address. Go to where you want to paste it. press Command + V. This will paste it. The pasted address should be longer than Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.com

Here is my list
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Reviews for my books:

The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History
/topic/show/...

Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
/topic/show/...

The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum Cryptography
/topic/show/...

The Perfect Storm: A True Story of Men Against the Sea
/topic/show/...

I am going to assume this was intelligible for everybody else! I may be done with my computer for the night. But next time I get on I might just open this message and try this thing. Thanks Jason.

Barbara wrote: "Anita wrote: "Barbara wrote: "Anita wrote: "Amy wrote: "So forgive the question if the answer is already obvious. When one finishes one of their listopia books, I understand that you are to place i..."

So, if you want to link to something, but want to give the link a reader-friendly name , you need to use html.

When you start a new post, you will see some words in the upper right hand corner that read (some html is ok). Click on those words to see all the things you can do with html. You need the code specified in the second bullet in the list entitled "link".

Basically you put your entire link between the quotation marks in the code. And you put whatever you want to call the link (i.e. my review) between the > and < characters.

I find this pretty unnecessary. We have done it on some posts here for aesthetics if it is something a lot of our members will be reading, but for a quick post in the context of a large thread, I think it seems like a waste of time.