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message 1: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Aug 16, 2014 02:14PM) (new)

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5.9 - World Language
Read a book that was originally written in a language different from your native language.
Required: State your native language(s) and the original language of the book


message 2: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Aug 16, 2014 02:12PM) (new)

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Native Language definition:
A first language (also native language, mother tongue, arterial language, or L1) is the language(s) a person has learned from birth or within the critical period, or that a person speaks the best and so is often the basis for sociolinguistic identity.


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Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 3029 comments If the book is translated into English, is that ok?


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Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "If the book is translated into English, is that ok?"

yes, you may read the book in English or any other language


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Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 4419 comments Okay ... I was born in the USA but grew up speaking Spanish (didn't speak English until I went to school)

So is Spanish my native language? Therefore I can read a book originally written in English ...

Or is English considered my native language? Therefore I can read a book originally written in Spanish (or French, or German, or ...)


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Book Concierge wrote: "Okay ... I was born in the USA but grew up speaking Spanish (didn't speak English until I went to school)

So is Spanish my native language? Therefore I can read a book originally written in Engli..."


Here's the definition of native language

A first language (also native language, mother tongue, arterial language, or L1) is the language(s) a person has learned from birth or within the critical period, or that a person speaks the best and so is often the basis for sociolinguistic identity.

You'll need to decide which language fits that definition


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Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 4419 comments April in Paris (whether I count Spanish or English as my native tongue, THIS book was first written in German ...)


message 10: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Book Concierge wrote: "April in Paris (whether I count Spanish or English as my native tongue, THIS book was first written in German ...)"

That works :)


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Dora Bergsdottir | 2 comments Since I'm an Icelander with Icelandic as a native tongue, reading something in English would fill this criteria, right? (I generally read books in English)


message 12: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Dora wrote: "Since I'm an Icelander with Icelandic as a native tongue, reading something in English would fill this criteria, right? (I generally read books in English)"

If the book was originally written in English (or another language besides Icelandic) it would work


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btwthesepages | 71 comments I was born in India and grew up speaking Hindi. So Hindi is my native language.
Does that mean I can read any book originally written in English or any other European language?


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Arshiya wrote: "I was born in India and grew up speaking Hindi. So Hindi is my native language.
Does that mean I can read any book originally written in English or any other European language?"


yes


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JenniferJ | 52 comments My native language is English so would this book work for me? I think it was translated from German??

Ruby Red (Precious Stone Trilogy, #1) by Kerstin Gier


message 16: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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JenniferJ wrote: "My native language is English so would this book work for me? I think it was translated from German??

Ruby Red (Precious Stone Trilogy, #1) by Kerstin Gier"


yes, that would work


message 17: by JenniferJ (new)

JenniferJ | 52 comments thank you Dlmrose!


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Skylla (skyllarider) | 8 comments I lived in French-speaking Africa so I picked up French as my first spoken language, quickly followed by Bengali (the language my parents and relatives speak) and then English so that by 1 and 3/4 I spoke all three languages in a jumbled mess. Does this mean I cannot read any books in French, English or Bengali? Or only Bengali?


message 19: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Skylla wrote: "I lived in French-speaking Africa so I picked up French as my first spoken language, quickly followed by Bengali (the language my parents and relatives speak) and then English so that by 1 and 3/4 ..."

You'll need to decide which language(s) fit the definition in post 2


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Skylla (skyllarider) | 8 comments Thank you for the help! :) Now I just need to decide...


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I'm from USA
I'd like to know if The Shadow of the Wind qualifies as a Spanish written book, it says translated by Lucia Graves ,but the author lives in LA ....

I'm assuming it was originally written in Spanish ?

Thanks for any help :)


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♞ Pat Gent | 786 comments Kaye wrote: "I'm from USA
I'd like to know if The Shadow of the Wind qualifies as a Spanish written book, it says translated by Lucia Graves ,but the author lives in LA ....

I'm assuming it was ..."


Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ lists the original title as original title as
"La sombra del viento." That doesn't appear English to ME!

I plan on using this book as well, so I'm hoping that you get an official answer pretty quick in case we both need to keep looking - but I'm betting we don't.


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♞ Pat Gent | 786 comments And from Wikipedia�.

The Shadow of the Wind (Spanish: La Sombra Del Viento) is a 2001 novel by Spanish writer Carlos Ruiz Zafón, and a worldwide bestseller. The book was translated into English in 2004 by Lucia Graves and sold over a million copies in the UK after already achieving success on mainland Europe, topping the Spanish bestseller lists for weeks.


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Oh thank you, Pat ! It sounds like we both may have found a good one !


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♞ Pat Gent | 786 comments Yes -- I'm really looking forward to reading it! :-)


message 26: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Kaye wrote: "I'm from USA
I'd like to know if The Shadow of the Wind qualifies as a Spanish written book, it says translated by Lucia Graves ,but the author lives in LA ....

I'm assuming it was ..."


Yes, that would work as a book originally written in Spanish.
(The author has extras at - music downloads, a walking tour,etc)


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Thanks :)


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Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 4419 comments BTW .... Isabel Allende writes all her books in Spanish (even though she lives in California). So if Spanish is NOT your native language, you could read one of her many books.


Katherine (DirectorKat) (directorkat) | 61 comments Can I check to make sure that this will pass?

Cinderella and Other Tales by the Brothers Grimm Book and Charm Cinderella and Other Tales by the Brothers Grimm Book and Charm by Jacob Grimm

I enjoyed the time in German class when we read these in the original German and can only hope that the translation holds up well.


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Katherine (DirectorKat) wrote: "Can I check to make sure that this will pass?

Cinderella and Other Tales by the Brothers Grimm Book and Charm[bookcover:Cinderella and Other Tales by the Brothers Grimm Book and Char..."


Since the GR description does not indicate that this book was originally written in German, it does not seem to fit the task requirement of "a book originally written in a language other than your native language." Even if some or all of the stories may have originated in Germany, that doesn't necessarily mean that this book was originally written in German.

However, I am only giving you my thoughts on this - so you may want to ask again when Dlmrose is back. Mid-September or so would be good.


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Claire (proud-mum) | 1086 comments Kaye wrote: "I'm from USA
I'd like to know if The Shadow of the Wind qualifies as a Spanish written book, it says translated by Lucia Graves ,but the author lives in LA ....

I'm assuming it was ..."


I'm going to read this too :)


Cynthia (Bingeing On Books) (bingeingonbooks) I am having a hard time finding a book that meets this description. My native language is English. What are some examples of books that were originally written in another language?


Cynthia (Bingeing On Books) (bingeingonbooks) So would A Hundred Years of Solitude or Anne Frank be appropriate?


message 34: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Cynthia wrote: "So would A Hundred Years of Solitude or Anne Frank be appropriate?"

when you ask a question in a help thread, please link to the book so that extra searches need not be done to look at the book.


message 35: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Cynthia wrote: "I am having a hard time finding a book that meets this description. My native language is English. What are some examples of books that were originally written in another language?"

here's one listopia - /list/show/1....

There are others. Go to listopia and search on terms like "translated books."

Keep in mind that people add stuff to listopias that isn't necessarily appropriate/accurate. This may give you some ideas, but you need to check the listing for the specific book, to make sure that it really fits.


Cynthia (Bingeing On Books) (bingeingonbooks) I believe I have found one that works. Like I said, my native language is English. Looks like One Hundred Years of Solitude was originally written in Spanish. On the main page, it does list a translator and the original Spanish name of the book. Would that work?


message 37: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Cynthia wrote: "I believe I have found one that works. Like I said, my native language is English. Looks like One Hundred Years of Solitude was originally written in Spanish. On the main page, it does l..."

yes it would.


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LouLouReads | 221 comments I'm hoping to read Die Verwandlung by Kafka for this challenge.

Here is my question: if I read this as an ebook in German, and there is no German language mass market paperback available for length verification, do I use the English mass-market paperback , or a non-mass-market German paperback? Editions of this book seem to have anywhere between 40 and 250 pages!


message 39: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Please review the Rules of the Challenge. Rule 7 describes how to determine ebook length. If there's no German language MMPB, use the one that comes up as most popular.


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My native language is English, and I would like Living to Tell the Tale by Gabriel Garcí­a Márquez. According to Wikipedia it was published in 2002 originally in Spanish.


message 41: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Navarra wrote: "My native language is English, and I would like Living to Tell the Tale by Gabriel Garcí­a Márquez. According to Wikipedia it was published in 2002 originally in Spanish."

that works.


message 42: by Fiona (Titch) (new)

Fiona (Titch) Hunt (titch) I speak English, this used to be in French, can I read The 7th Woman?


message 43: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Fiona (Titch) wrote: "I speak English, this used to be in French, can I read The 7th Woman?"

yes, looks like book was originally written in French.


Macwolf01 [Elise] (macwolf01) Can I check that The Snowman(Harry Hole #7)
by Jo Nesbø, Don Bartlett (Translator) will work, I only speak English ... this book was originally translated from Norwegian

Hardcover, 383 pages
Published May 10th 2011 by Knopf Publishing Group (first published January 1st 2007)
original title: Snømannen
ISBN:0307595862 (ISBN13: 9780307595867)
edition language:English
setting:Oslo (Norway)


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Macwolf01 [Elise] wrote: "Can I check that The Snowman(Harry Hole #7)
by Jo Nesbø, Don Bartlett (Translator) will work, I only speak English ... this book was originally translated from Norwegian

Hardcover,..."


That works


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Rachel (rachieg) | 21 comments Pat wrote: "Kaye wrote: "I'm from USA
I'd like to know if The Shadow of the Wind qualifies as a Spanish written book, it says translated by Lucia Graves ,but the author lives in LA ....

I'm ass..."


This is one of my very favorites! Enjoy reading it for the first time :)


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Susan A | 1540 comments Love Water please note children's genre not listed


message 48: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Susan A wrote: "Love Water please note children's genre not listed"

noted


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Veronica (summerlynn) | 43 comments The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest written in Swedish, my native tongue is English


message 50: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Veronica wrote: "The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest written in Swedish, my native tongue is English"

That would work


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