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Don Quixote
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Don Quixote - Buddy Read Jan 2021 until present


That's excellent. Yeah hopefully starting in Jan gives folk time to get organised :) and to mentally prepare!

Any idea what translation you're reading?

kenrat
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Grossman - Accurate and renders the humor well
Ormsby - The most accurate, but also the driest for humor. Archaic language. His is also the only one of three translations from the same period to have had many reprints.
Starkie - Accurate and renders the humor well
Rutherford - Less literal than others but renders the humor well
Shelton - Riddled with errors but savored for its fine language
Raffel- Written in informal language but renders the humor well.
Putnam - Contains thousands of his own notes that are useful for scholars but the translation itself is criticized for inaccuracy.
Jervas - Accurate but dry. Follows Shelton too closely in many areas.
Cohen - IDK. All I know his editions has been superseded by Rutherford's at Penguin.
Avoid like the plague
Motteux - "Worse than worthless" - Ormsby
John Phillips - A literal piece of shit
Smollett - Cribbed off Jervas's and made it worse

""The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote De La Mancha" that we have is in two volumes. It is a new translation from the Spanish, with A Critical Text Based upon The First Editions Of 1605 And 1615, and with Variant Readings, Variorum Notes, and an Introduction by Samuel Putnam. There was no ISBN attached to the book or book record but it was published in 1949 by the Viking Press, New York. "
So, the one that is huge and also 'criticized for inaccuracy."
My university library has Rutherford. I guess I'll probably read that.

Hey Cheryl,
I just have the cheap Wordsworth Classics edition:
The translation is by P A Motteaux.
Thanks for the reddit links!
I also started a subreddit for Don Quixote if anyone's interested.

Wow - in Spanish! I'm impressed! Great :)



Of course - I'm delighted I'll have some company on the journey :)
I think I'll definitely change my edition now too - so it was worth it.
Thanks guys!

I see you are doing your research when it comes to translations. Don't neglect it. Don Quixote is hard to translate and a bad translator could do a lot of harm to it.
I checked the copies at Project Gutenberg. They have the Ormsby and the Motteaux translations. I skimmed both a bit, the Ormsby one looks solid. Motteaux seems pretty bad on the other hand.
If you like having a bit of context before starting the read, I suggest reading these two Wikipedia articles:



I'm amazed you attempted to read a book thrice and better you are courageous enough to try again . I would have just given up. We have a few links which might help you with choosing an edition but I guess the Grossman is the best among them so far.I hope you reach the finish line with us here. I'm sure making a schedule in December which will work for everyone will help.


I'm sure we'll be able to cheer each other on and get the book read.


I would like to join too!
I joined this group only yesterday and glad I stumbled upon this buddy read.
Since I'm from Germany and having a bit of trouble sometimes with reading "old english", I hope I can find a good and priceworthy German translation. Should be doable until January!
Hope you can overlook any spelling/grammar mistakes I make writing in English.
Looking forward to dive into this classic with you all!





I'd made this schedule, based on my wordsworth classics edition. I've since got a different edition so it may need updated but hopefully the books/ chapters are the same.
SEE NEW LINK in POST 50

I've updated the schedule sheet. There are 3 tabs.
The first tab is based on Samuel's sheet from our Moby Dick readalong and you can track your daily reading. This is using the Grossman Vintage Classics edition for reference.

The 2nd Tab is a static Grossman edition schedule.
The 3rd Tab is a static Wordsworth Classics edition schedule.

I hope that helps.
I've based them on reading the intros etc by the 3rd Jan and starting the book proper on the 4th.
I've updated the link:
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I'm planning on blasting through all my unread classics in 2021 and I'd love to read Don Quixote.
I'm fully "booked" (he he) for the rest of 2020 but would be keen to start 2021 with a bang and read this classic.
If anyone is keen let me know and I'll get a schedule and plan set up.
Thanks!
L