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BUDDY READS > Don Quixote - Buddy Read Jan 2021 until present

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Cheryl (cherylllr) Ok, the edition that I managed to get is the Starkie.
I don't know if I'll be able to keep to a schedule; I'm used to reading at my own pace. But I'll try!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Any pace is fine - I might try and post thoughts here according to the shedule but you can follow along at any pace that suits.


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments Hi! I've had this book sitting in my Audible library for ages. The Grossman edition. I'd definitely love to join, and finally give myself the motivation to start it!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Hey Jessica,

Lovely to have you join us! I hope you can access all the docs etc ok?
I'm excited to get started!


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments Yes! I just opened in my browser. I should be done with my current audiobook today, so I'll be adding this to the schedule :)


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Carla | 77 comments I'm also in!

And Laura, thank you for the spreadsheets :)


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The Lazy Reader (icy_blues) Hello! can I join? I want to read some good books this month


Shaina | 356 comments Welcome, Lazy Reader! Happy to have you onboard.


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments I couldn't figure out how to edit the spreadsheet to update our own progress. I think it's locked in edit mode? Was anyone else having this problem?

I started the prologue/to the book of this morning


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments I think you should be able to download/save a copy of the spreadsheet and then edit for yourselves.
Let me know if this doesn't work.

We won't all be able to edit the same one - so I think everyone will have to save their own copy.

I think I'll start prologue tomorrow - today has been VERY lazy!


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments I got it! That was my bad. I thought it had saved a separate copy to my phone originally, I've sorted it out though :)


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Ah good stuff - glad it worked :)


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The Lazy Reader (icy_blues) Started it today and immediately started smiling. Cervantes has such a personable, honest, friendly voice that's apparent from the first page, like he already considers the reader a close friend and is choosing to confide all. If kafka was the anxious loner sidelined at the party, cervantes is it's cheerful, genial center. I can already tell I'm in for a fun ride!


Shaina | 356 comments @Lazy Reader This sounds promising! I still reading the prologue. The introduction was quite long.


Shaina | 356 comments Laura@ hope you got you hands on the Grossman edition.


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The Lazy Reader (icy_blues) @Shaina for sure! bit of a digress from the main topic, but I notice that you're also reading Lovecraft and I plan to read him too! his paranoia/fear is going to be an interesting contrast to Cervantes' cheerfulness


Shaina | 356 comments @Lazy Reader I'm happy to find a fellow Lovecraftian. I started Lovecaft last year (my introduction to the horror genre).
I plan to finish all 100 of his works this year (23 done so far since Oct).


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments The Lazy Reader wrote: "Started it today and immediately started smiling. Cervantes has such a personable, honest, friendly voice that's apparent from the first page, like he already considers the reader a close friend an..."

Sounds great! Glad you're enjoying it so far!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Shaina wrote: "Laura@ hope you got you hands on the Grossman edition."

Thanks Shaina - yep I did get a 2nd hand one through ebay. :)


¹ó°ù²¹²Ô³¦±ð-´¡²Ô»å°ùé±ð (iphigenie72) | 413 comments I didn’t read the intro because I was scared of spoilers, but I read the rest of the preliminaries and the first chapter. It’s interesting to see how the novel gave us words, in french we have a dulcinée for the one you love. I am reading it in English, Grossman, but I pronounce Don Quichote in my head because that’s how I’ve always called him.


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Storm | 170 comments I read the intro/prologue stuff according to the schedule and I'm excited to dive in. The translator seemed to have a great flow and good humor in her little blurb. The other intro compared our two main characters to Hamlet and Falstaff which are 2 of Shakespeare's best characters. And then the fun poems started showing the original author's humor.


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Aloysius221B | 38 comments Hi, I had to hand in my master thesis yesterday, so I'm a bit late starting the book. Read the prologue and the first 2 chapters last evening and I'm absolutely thrilled!
I allowed myself the bit more expensive new German translation which is highly praised for transferring the original atmosphere of the book. Alone the first book has over 80 extra pages of notes and reference explanations...not sure if I'm gonna read them all.


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments These chapter summaries are quite good:

How is everyone getting on?
I'll post some thoughts later.


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments I'm starting Chapter 17. I've had a busy work week so I've had a lot of time to listen in the car. Our knight is....something special, thats for sure haha! ;)


Shaina | 356 comments I laughed out loud during Chp 16 and 17. Hilarious!


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Storm | 170 comments This book is so fun. I just finished chapter Ch 16.

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¹ó°ù²¹²Ô³¦±ð-´¡²Ô»å°ùé±ð (iphigenie72) | 413 comments Just finished Chapter 15.

This is very funny, but it’s also sad because of Don Quixote. (view spoiler)

I’m really loving this book.


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Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments I'm a bit behind my own schedule!
Still, here are my thoughts up to Chapter 11 - not in a very structured manner I'm afraid!

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Cheryl (cherylllr) I'm struggling. Though it's easy enough to read, I'm having trouble just skimming over stuff I don't know, like the particular book titles in the winnowing... I'm sure that there are reasons that Cervantes' contemporaries would agree or disagree with the different choices of what to burn, what to store for later, and what to treasure, but of course I don't know any of them.

Still, I liked the spirit of that chapter... I have the same difficulties with my own shelves, virtual and physical!

I'm also intimidated by just how long the book is. My paperback is hard to read in bed, and that's the only time I've made for it... maybe I'll have to shove some other reading obligations aside for awhile.

Or maybe I'll take the advice in Beowulf on the Beach: What to Love and What to Skip in Literature's 50 Greatest Hits:

"Part I, Chapters I-VIII (getting to the windmills) and LII (the last chapter); then read Part II, I-V and the scenes of Sancho governing the 'island,' Chapters XLV, XLVII, XLIX, LI, and LIII. All told, that's less than two hundred pages."


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Storm | 170 comments Just finished Chapter 20. I wondered last time how we get such a long book from this and now I'm wondering how we justify Sancho staying. I am mostly enjoying it, but it doesn't seem like it should be so long a book.

^^@Laura He is so Scrappy Doo! That fits perfectly lol.


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments I am enjoying it although I must admit I'm finding it a bit sad and frustrating rather than funny. I almost feel like it's a Carry On film - especially the fight in the dark in the inn.

I LOVED Marcella's speech - I underlined almost all of it and had written "Yay Marcella!" in the margin. This was definitely a favourite scene for me so far.

I am also wondering how this book can be so long - if they just go from one misadventure to another, I'm worried it will get a bit same-y and boring?...we'll see...

I agree Cheryl about all the references to Chivalric texts etc - it's difficult to know how important it is to be familiar with these or not.

Anyway so far so good....


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Samuel (kaisserds) | 90 comments Don't worry too much about the Chivalric texts, all that it's needed to know in order to understand everything in the book is that they were a extremely popular genre of books at the time of Cervantes and he made Don Quijote to satirize them. A feature of these books is that they usually pretended to be "lost stories written/found by a historian". This might explain something that will come further along in DQ.

The book is quite long, I think it should have been a bit shorter, but it has more than going from one misadventure to another. It's also important to remember that this was originally two books published several years apart, so individually their length is not that far fetched but when put together it makes for huge book.


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Cheryl (cherylllr) It really is easy to read in many ways, at least in a modern translation (Starkie, in my case). I wonder how archaic the vocabulary and style are in the original Spanish.

I mean, Shakespeare is from the same era, and that's hard to read for many of us... in part because it's a play, not prose, but also because it could stand to be 'translated' in bits here & there. And so now I wonder what it's like to read Shakespeare in translation, say in modern Spanish...

Do we have anybody reading in Spanish in this discussion?


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Samuel (kaisserds) | 90 comments I actually read Romeo and Juliet in Spanish in school. It was really bland without Shakespeare's style.


¹ó°ù²¹²Ô³¦±ð-´¡²Ô»å°ùé±ð (iphigenie72) | 413 comments Finished chapter 25

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Shaina | 356 comments I'm happy to know the book isn't entirely about these adventures or misadventures. @Thanks, Samuel. I really enjoyed Marcella's speech and the funny scene at the inn. I figured the author was using other text names to mock knight-errantry stories and chivalric themes and stories (quite a bold move).

I'm starting chapter 24 today. Listening to an audiobook by George Guidall. The narrator is really quite good. I don't think I would have managed with only the book.


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Storm | 170 comments Just finished Chapter 30

We suddenly have a lot more characters on the road now! Maybe some more depth coming? I wish I could read Cardenio's story written by Shakespeare; it has the levels of drama he loves and he would have done awesome stuff with it I think.


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¹ó°ù²¹²Ô³¦±ð-´¡²Ô»å°ùé±ð (iphigenie72) | 413 comments Up to Chapter 32

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Am a little ahead of the schedule, I was on vacation and read 5 chapters a day, but with works I’ll probably slow down this week.


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments I'm totally behind! I've given myself some ambitious reading goals this month - I'll catch up this week though! Loving everyone's comments!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Also has anyone got an illustrated version?
I've found a subreddit reading Don Quixote in a year and each chapter they post links to the illustrations - I really love seeing them and wish I had some in my book.
Here's the link to the subreddit if anyone's interested:



Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments Starting 41 right now.

I find that I DON'T enjoy how many side stories there are. It's hard for me to follow all of the characters and each of their stories and goals and such. I'm hoping that the book comes back to more direct action with our main "knight" at some point:)


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Storm | 170 comments Yeah the history of the Moor was like a whole other book! I just finished chapter 46 and I'm glad we're back to Don Quixote again and have his story moving more.


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments I'm still behind but quite enjoyed the Cardenio story. I just finished the chapter now where they joined Dorotea.

I'm finding the parallels with The Pickwick Papers very interesting. the structure is similar - kind of episodic but with these diversions of side stories.

I'm planning a big catch up tonight and hope to be caught up by the weekend!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Storm wrote: "Just finished Chapter 30

We suddenly have a lot more characters on the road now! Maybe some more depth coming? I wish I could read Cardenio's story written by Shakespeare; it has the levels of dra..."


I agree - I really want to read Shakespeare's Cardenio now! I'm loathing Don Fernando too!


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Thoughts up to chapter 31

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I'm a bit more invested now and although Don Q still annoys me quite a bit I'm interested to see how the story is going to play out....


Jessica Buzzard | 67 comments I got a bit behind over the weekend. Planning on catching up today and tomorrow (I'm off work for the holiday). Excited to start the second part of our story


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Samuel (kaisserds) | 90 comments @Laura, using a fictional narrator was a cliche in chivalry novels. It was customary to pretend the adventures in them were uncovered by a supposed historian, like Cide Hamete does in DQ.

Before starting part 2,
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Storm | 170 comments @Samuel So, even though it's printed and considered one very long book we're basically reading a duology. That's cool! And it help explains the length of the story too. I'm interested to see if there's any obvious stylistic changes after the author's hiatus. I see that happen throughout series (like Stephen King's The Dark Tower). It might be harder to pick up on those due to translations though. I'll be starting Part 2 today!


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Cheryl (cherylllr) Has it ever been hypothesized that Alonso Fernández de Avellaneda was actually Cervantes himself? I can see a few different ways that could be....


Laura  (Reading is a Doing Word) (readingisadoingword) | 345 comments Samuel wrote: "@Laura, using a fictional narrator was a cliche in chivalry novels. It was customary to pretend the adventures in them were uncovered by a supposed historian, like Cide Hamete does in DQ.

Before s..."


Yeah I find that interesting and see the tradition.
I think what I found most interesting was the awareness Don Q had of being in a story that would be narrated. I guess that's is whole aim though - to be the ultimate chivalric knight errant - so of course he'd be the subject of a chivalric tale.


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