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No Name > No Name - Week 2

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message 1: by Hugh (last edited Nov 02, 2022 05:48AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
This section covers chapters 7 to 12 of the First Scene.

Chapter summaries (beware spoilers):
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Nidhi Kumari Chapter 7.

I have a feeling ( classic book and classic movie feeling lol )that Norah is undergoing a conflict of emotions. She likes Frank but 'doesn't want ' to get involved with a 'failure'.


Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
Nidhi wrote: "Chapter 7.

I have a feeling ( classic book and classic movie feeling lol )that Norah is undergoing a conflict of emotions. She likes Frank but 'doesn't want ' to get involved with a 'failure'."


Did you mean Magdalen? I don't remember seeing any evidence that Norah was interested in Frank.


Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
Just realised that I have not been following the schedule properly, so I have amended the introductions for both this section and week 1.


message 5: by Brian E (last edited Nov 02, 2022 09:24PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Brian E Reynolds | 148 comments I've been waiting for the reason for the girls to have No Name but was quite surprised when it was revealed. After deciding to read this a few years ago I stayed away from plot overviews and did not recall whether this No Name factor would involve one or both sisters.
My most prominent guess was that Magdalen would turn out to be neither a blood child nor legally adopted one and the explanation would involve Mrs. Vanstone's past and her blackmailer. While I expect the blackmailer to become involved in the story sometime in the remaining 600+ pages, I was way off in my guess. I can't believe I never considered the simpler and cleaner explanation that the girls were illegitimate. Collins' characterizations duped me into never being able to consider that the Vanstones woukd be "living in sin." Score one for Collins.
I look forward to learning about Mr. Vanstone's checkered past and the rest of the backstory. The Magdalen/Frank dynamic reminds me of some of Trollope's relationships where the woman is stronger, more dynamic and more interesting while the male is pleasant and attractive, but weak and meek. Frank is an especially weak and meek example.
I also look forward to seeing how Norah reacts to her change in status. Hopefully she will stop being such a pill.


Dianne Brian E wrote: "I've been waiting for the reason for the girls to have No Name but was quite surprised when it was revealed. After deciding to read this a few years ago I stayed away from plot overviews and did no..."

I did not see that explanation coming either! I felt like the story needed some kind of shake up so this will be interesting. Magdalen seems to be suffering some sense of guilt, so we will see how this impacts her. I'm not sure what she sees in the insipid Frank. Meanwhile, have we seen a crack in the stony exterior of Frank's father? I suspect he will be playing some role.


Linda | 1425 comments I, too, was starting to wonder where the title of the book came from and I didn't guess what came to be the case. So I'm guessing that the document that the lawyer was hoping to have signed by Mrs Vanstone was an adoption document for the girls? But that has me wondering, if Mr Vanstone's will was written at least 5 years ago, didn't he understand at the time that the girls wouldn't actually be included even though they were named on the will? Also, what happens to Mrs Vanstone's inheritance after she dies?

And we still don't know what the family affairs were as alluded to in the letter to Mr Vanstone that came from New Orleans. If that is what prompted them to go to London to get married, then what was it? Maybe Mr Vanstone was married before and was technically still married all this time and he just found out that that this other woman died and so now the Vanstones could get married? Hmm...I guess we shall see some of his history in the next chapter.

I'm still trying to figure out Frank. Does he not excel at his career opportunities out of sheer laziness and a weak character? Or because he simply doesn't have the mental aptitude?


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