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No Name > No Name - Week 9

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message 1: by Hugh (last edited Dec 19, 2022 11:21AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
This week's thread covers the final chapter of the Fourth Scene, Between the Scenes and the first 2 chapters of the Fifth Scene.

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Dianne Oh my goodness, this section ended with quite the cliffhanger! Goodness only knows what Lecount has to relay now.

I was honestly surprised Magdalen went through with the marriage - I thought there would be some turn of events. To me it seems unlikely that the wedding would've gone through without the typical fanfare - wedding dress, preparations, etc. without additional rumblings of the townspeople. Was Noel really so smitten that he would turn his back on his housekeeper and behave so uncharacteristically in so many ways in order to get married in haste? Seemed rather unbelievable to me.

Now we are left with Lecount moving the playing pieces so everything is back in her favor. Again, Noel seems a puppet, only this time moving under the direction of his housekeeper rather than his wife or Wragge. What a pathetic human he is! Well, his wife is going to return any moment, and certainly there's more to come in this battle of wits and for the favor of Noel's will. Where is our captain Kirk? I suspect that that is next!


Linda | 1425 comments Yeah, what is up with Noel?? How pathetic can he be? First I was rooting for Magdalen in besting Lecount, but at the end of this section I did a 180 and was rooting for Lecount. But Noel? He deserves whatever he gets coming to him because he has no brain or spine. And I also couldn't believe that he would make a new will and leave out his housekeeper, but I guess that's the effect that Wragge had on him in convincing him that Lecount was mad and against him. Again, he has no brain or spine and is pathetic.

I guess I wasn't surprised that Magdalen went through with the wedding because otherwise all of that deception would have been for nothing, but the lead up to the actual event went a bit long in my opinion. I'm STILL waiting for captain Kirke or other characters to pop up!

OK, so we did have that small bit with Norah and how George Bertram had visited, and she seemed to reflect that he may be interested in her. So, here is my speculation as to what will happen. Lecount will convince Noel to change his will again and exclude Magdalen. Since George is his cousin, his money will end up with George when he dies. And if George is interested in Norah, the family will end up with all the money they were initially entitled to, and then some, since now it will be the entire inheritance instead of just the 80,000. And Lecount only limiting herself to the 5,000, which is how much Michael was to leave her, simply because she wants to be as "good" as Magdalen and not want any more than what was fair, is going to prove to be the downfall since now Norah and Magdalen will end up with much more. Lecount will have played a part in actually awarding them more money. That's my theory at this point. Now, as to how Noel will die (will he??), I have no idea. How will Noel and Lecount's conclusion that Magdalen had actually intended the poison for Noel and not herself play into things?

Oh! And I also speculate that Kirke will come back with Frank in tow, and now that Magdalen and Norah have a bunch of money, Magdalen and Frank will be able to wed. I'm super curious how my theory will or will not hold up!


message 4: by Brian E (last edited Dec 16, 2022 02:23AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Brian E Reynolds | 148 comments We get very little of Magdalen during this section, especially the end half. While my sympathy for her has waned, I still can't ever foresee a time that I will sympathize with Lecount. She was, and is, too wrapped up in Noel and his father's decision making process to be given a pass for that father/son team's attitude and decision-making toward the sisters and to society as a whole..

Wile he makes cruel decisions, I do give Noel kudos for being consistent. After contributing to his own demise by empowering Wragge with a personal vendetta against him by low-balling the Captain, when faced with a second chance to get in Lecount's good graces, Noel again makes a low-ball initial offer, a $1,000 bequest. Noel's spitting out the low-ball $1000 figure had me chuckling. The only reason this low-ball offer didn't put a kabosh on getting Lecount back on his side was because of Lecount only wanting $5,000 anyway due to her personal 'high moral standard' battle with Magdalen. Lucky Noel.

Noel does entertain me with his spineless miserly ways. I love how he is clueless that his monetary offerings are woefully short of the standard and expected amounts. I can only imagine the amount of sharp looks he gets from wait staff and servants when he gives them puny tips that he believes are sufficient and even generous. For justice' sake, I hope that Noel's miserly ways are a contributing factor to his expected final demise - I cannot foresee him living to the end of this book.

Linda, I think your prognostications may turn out, at least to Norah. As to captain Kirke, I think he is more apt to arrange an 'accident' for Frank than to bring him back to Magdalen. Captain Kirke seemed too much enamored with Magdalen and insufficiently noble to perform as you foresee him. But then again, at this point, I can only say "Captain Kirke, I hardly knew ye," so who knows?


Linda | 1425 comments Brian E wrote: "While my sympathy for her has waned, I still can't ever foresee a time that I will sympathize with Lecount."

I agree. I am definitely not sympathetic towards Lecount, but because my enthusiasm for Magdalen has diminished, and I really can't stand Noel, I found myself rooting for Lecount's plan to change Noel's will to succeed. Maybe also to just fueling the fire a bit. :)

Brian E wrote: "Noel does entertain me with his spineless miserly ways. I love how he is clueless that his monetary offerings are woefully short of the standard and expected amounts."

Yes, I laughed at that too. Offering Lecount 1000 pounds and thinking that was generous.

Brian E wrote: "As to captain Kirke, I think he is more apt to arrange an 'accident' for Frank than to bring him back to Magdalen."

You could be onto something here. That sounds more likely to happen. But I originally wasn't thinking that Kirke would bring Frank back out of the goodness of his heart after finding out that he and Magdalen were known to each other, but that it would happen as a coincidence.

Brian E wrote: "But then again, at this point, I can only say "Captain Kirke, I hardly knew ye," so who knows?"

This totally made me laugh. I mean, I keep expecting him to reappear and so far we get nothing.

I'm still reading week 10, so I will hopefully pop into those threads in a day or two.


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