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message 1: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments [Regarding Published Works with Different Name Variants]

I'm trying to study the Librarian Manual in order to pass the test. My question is: if an author wants all their books under one name, would I use their middle name or their middle initial?

I've read the Author Names and Profiles section a few times. All it says is:
If an author uses his or her middle name or middle initial for their publications, then this should also be included in the author's name. Initials should be followed by a period.
Which one takes precedence? Wouldn't that be the author's choice? I assume you would use their full middle name if they don't give a preference. But it feels like a trick question.

If you can answer, please do, it seems like a loophole. I could be overthinking it. But the Manual should specify which one takes precedence, and if you should use the one the author tells you to use.


message 2: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Librarians cannot help you with the test, but yes you may be overthinking it. The passage you quoted is straightforward.


message 3: by Mr. James (last edited Oct 07, 2024 01:41PM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Ok Scott. Thanks for the reply. I'll go with my instinct; but I still think it could be clarified.


message 4: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments The test is challenging. My friend Mr. Beckett gets it.
“Try again. Fail again. Fail better.�
� Samuel Beckett
It's effective. I've learned more about ŷ librarian requirements from the answers I got wrong.

On Suggestion I'd Like Someone to Consider: At least extend - if not completely eliminate - the time requirement. It should be at least 1 hour. I don't rush through things, and I've never (I don't think) come under the 30 minute timeframe.


message 5: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Suggestions should go.to support. Librarians cannot change anything .


message 6: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Thanks Scott. No small talk. Right to the point. Will do.

Your cat's face reminds me of my childhood cat: Chunk. He had a belly that swayed back and forth when he walked and when he sat down he looked like a triangle. It was genetic! We did not overfeed him! And he was extremely lazy, surpassing Garfield lazy.

Thanks again.


message 7: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments I loathe small talk, unless it is about cats. But then, if it concerns cats, is it really small? I think not. Thank you for telling me about Chunk and his belly bag. A lot of people mistake it for a cat being fat, but really it is there to protect them and also it enables them to s t r e t c h out to be long bois and girls.


message 8: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Your post gave me a good chuckle. Cheers. I needed one on this dreary day.


message 9: by Tawnya (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments Scott you said kitty stuff was OK. 😉

When I was a teen we moved into a house where someone had abandoned two cats, one of which was noticeably pregnant. Keep in mind it was the 80s, hence my naming them Sheena and Sheba. My mom was a wizard when it came to animals. She figured Sheena was going to pop fairly soon due to how large she was. Nope. It took a couple weeks for the big day to arrive. Sheena was so large that in order to lay down she would get herself swaying and then fall over. She wound up having 6 kittens that were huge. Thankfully they all made it. We found homes for everyone (including the two that were there) when we moved for the 4th time in my 7th grade year.


message 10: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Tawnya wrote: "Sheena was so large that in order to lay down she would get herself swaying and then fall over. "

That's a funny image. It deserves a nod.


message 11: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Thank you for the story of your cat clan and thank you for finding them all homes. With a name like Tawnya, you've got to be a cat person.


message 12: by Mr. James (last edited Oct 16, 2024 07:31AM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments What!
It says I didn't pass: 16 out of 20 = 80%!
In my day that was passing!
I'm irritated!

If this has to do with the time limit I'm even more irritated.
(I wasn't timing myself, but it felt like it was under 30 minutes.)


message 13: by Mr. James (last edited Oct 16, 2024 01:27PM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments PS: (Regarding Time): I'll note the irony: Wouldn't you want ŷ librarians to take their time? It's essential in the trade. I should know. (Sigh.)

Afterthought repeated: But I still think I came under the limit.


message 14: by Tawnya (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments Mr. James I believe the threshold is 90%. After you pass the test there is still the essay portion. It seemed to me that that was the most important part. You have to explain why you want to be a librarian. From reading the threads where people say they passed the test and still weren't granted status all I can figure is that they didn't make their case.

I was unaware of librarians until a few months before I became one. My daughter had just gotten her Master of Librarian Science, so I naturally assumed that was what the group was about. I really wish they would use a different term for us. It would clear up the confusion that happens all of the time. People see "librarian" and think that we are like the ones at their local library and can help them find books. We are basically just free editors for the site.


message 15: by Mr. James (last edited Oct 23, 2024 02:32AM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Yes, agreed (sort of); I like the term "librarian." I am one.

I haven't gotten back to the test, since my real life librarian job has been demanding - yes ŷ community, a librarian's job can be stressful and very active, especially when you're looking for unique ways to get teenagers into "books." And are passionate and relentless in your cause.

Teenagers, and students in general, have a strong hunger for printed material. Except ADULTS keep shoving phones in their hands and telling them to use that instead.

I already wrote the essay, since that's what I thought it would be. I loath multiple choice questions, and in this test - one in particular - I swear it was a trick question, no response seemed right.

I will take it again this weekend, and again if I "fail."

I'm doing it to learn. It will help me in fixing a high school library catalogue that the previous incompetent (although gentle and kind soul) neglected, destroyed, and simple didn't understand.

And honestly, the extent to which precision is needed in order to be a "ŷ librarian" should make a paid position. I'm willing to give my services for free. I'm obsessive and meticulous.

What I wrote in this post should show my passion as a librarian. And should be enough for an unpaid position.

I saw your system for rating. Brillant. I see you don't have many "friends" so I don't mean to be forward. I'm sending a friend request, since I feel I would enjoy future discussions. If you don't accept within a week, I understand, and will remove the request - no offense taken.

I appreciate the thoughtful response.

Stay curious,
Good day,
Mr. James


message 16: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments I came across this title during my travels and thought of you guys; it produced a minute's worth of giggles.

The Cat Who Sniffed Glue


message 17: by Tawnya (last edited Nov 22, 2024 06:28AM) (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments I own all of Lillian's books. The later books changes the way Koko communicated. The first two books had him clawing a dictionary. The protagonist is a reporter with the proper Scottish name of Qwilleran. He winds up taking care of Koko (and eventually Yumyum). The author always went in depth for background information. The fourth book "The Cat Who Saw Red" had a disturbing historical fact in it. Centuries ago an animal had wondered into a kiln right when it was being lit. The resulting pottery had an amazing red glaze. They started doing it regularly. The killer in the book had no true talent and was jealous of his wife who disappeared. Then suddenly his slab pottery has a brilliant glaze...

My first love was for mysteries. Of course Nany Drew and Trixie Belden were a must. I have 2 Nancys that are from the 30s. She has a roadster instead of the convertible. Considering the books have been in storage for 25 years in the south I should probably say I USED to have the books. The library in Schwabach, Germany had all of the Nancy Drew books from the 50s era. The librarian had worked there since the Kaserne opened after the war. There was ivy criss-crossed on the ceiling where she had grown it over the years. She was a lovely lady.


message 18: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments I have The Cat Who Saw Red too; both were discards. I reread the title a few times, thinking it was a typo. I might give Saw Red a go; the holidays are rough, and the synopsis looks fun. Does the order matter?

In the later books are they communicating telepathically? Or are they just giving the reporter leads by using their environment?


message 19: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments PS: Since you are a cat lover, I have to admit, the Warrior Cats Volume 1 to 12 Books Collection Set (The Complete First Series (Warriors: The Prophecies Begin Volume 1 to 6) & The Complete Second Series is a series I go to when I need a mental break. I have a review of Midnight on ŷ. I call them, "The most boring and addictive books I've ever read."

Sidenote: I don't even own a cat. But I prefer their personalities over dogs... usually.


message 20: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments No one owns a cat. 😉


message 21: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Scott wrote: "No one owns a cat. 😉"

True.


message 22: by Tawnya (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments Koko is not a large part of the books. It was sort of a bait and switch. He is a cat being his full catness. In the latter books there is a photographer who is always trying to get the perfect picture. It is not meant to be.

The books are really about Qwill. Lillian must have had a thing for men with mustaches since she waxes poetic about Qwill's. The first book I read was "Danish Modern". Qwill had had Koko for a while by then. There is some continuity to the books, especially after Qwill moves up north. I say "north", but he was already in the north. Once he inherited a bunch of money the books lost some of their authenticity. Lillian still taught us about interesting customs and such, but having Qwill never need to worry about what will happen next really made the books rather bland.


message 23: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Ok. No cat stories today. I'm just going to complain for a second.

So I've passed twice, I know 80% isn't passing, but for arguments sake let's say it is, so I passed three times.

Anyway, I retook it, it said I failed, and as I scroll down the first ten questions weren't answered. Huh? I know I answered them. I did not blackout (positive, school bells are effective at marking time and place). So what's the deal?

I know no one is going to answer, but this test needs to be upgraded or improved. I'm at a loss at this point. Could it at least leave answers I answered alone, and not mysteriously erase them? This is an unsolvable riddle, enigma, paradox, or ghost.

You know, even though I passed but didn't, I do have the credentials, education, and an essay written on how I could help - which is collecting dust.

That's it...
Merry... shopping.
Treat your cats to caviar; I know it's not recommended, but hell... what is?
Good day.


message 24: by Emily (last edited Dec 16, 2024 07:39AM) (new)

Emily | 17056 comments It could be a glitch. I recommend taking screenshots of your finished tests and of the answers.
Jaclyn will probably address this thread when she catches up from her leave and look into it. If there are glitches they definitely need to be fixed.
(I also think 30 minutes is too short)


message 25: by Mr. James (last edited Dec 16, 2024 12:18PM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments It certainly is Emily, especially for anyone taking it for the first time. That's my biggest complaint.

I find my case absurdly comic and ironic.

Thanks for responding. I appreciate it. But I'm growing indifferent to helping; I've spent most of my life giving away my services for free, and if it's this taxing to do that, I'll focus on other projects.

And who knows. This could have been my mistake. I opened a new page to look at the manual, maybe that reset everything.

Cheers.


message 26: by Mr. James (last edited Dec 16, 2024 08:13AM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments PS: I see you read Patricia Cornwell; I read her as a teen. She opened the world to forensic pathology. I still push her on students that are interested in the field.


message 27: by Mr. James (last edited Dec 16, 2024 08:30AM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Oh fine... Merry Chris... Tawnya and Scott.
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message 28: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Ok, I just discovered this and need to recommend it. I'm on a life quest to reorganize my library. I just moved section 636 and came across this: The Cat Who Couldn't See in the Dark: Veterinary Mysteries and Advice on Feline Care and Behavior.

It actually looks good: factual and funny. One cat is named Pink Floyd. Brillant.


message 29: by Tawnya (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments It sounds like an interesting book. I prefer the hardback cover, but the kitten is cute.

As to the test, that is odd. I cannot see anything gained by contacting support here. They will just say to try again.

I have found a down-side to being a librarian is that I have read so little lately. I get started cleaning up an author's profile and while doing that one I will find something else and that gets sidetracked to the point I have multiple projects going. In a few weeks, if the pattern holds true, there should be a two-week period where we will be unable to use the combining page while the system does a massive update. I thought last year was something new, until I read through some of the old threads.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 1925 comments Tawnya wrote: "
As to the test, that is odd. I cannot see anything gained by contacting support here. They will just say to..."


I'd report it as a bug. They will probably tell you to clear your cache & refuse to help unless you do though.


message 31: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments For you....
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For me...
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message 32: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments 1st... Is this spam? Jagrut, your profile suggests that, and if it is, could moderators please delete this one post, I don't want junk in my thread.

2nd... If you're legit, which I don't believe you are, please elucidate. If you're promoting your band, I like Indie music. So explain, if you don't, moderators please delete it. I'm flagging it.

(If you elect to clarify, edit the post and add information. Don't create a new post. Cerry Mhristmas.)


message 33: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments So, for further clarification, I want you to understand Jagurat - if that is indeed your real name - what this thread is designed for. I'll keep it simple.
1. A place for me to whine about librarian related issues.

2. A place for others to whine if they are experiencing similar issues.

3. Cats



message 34: by Martin (new)

Martin | 31557 comments Mr. James wrote: "So, for further clarification, I want you to understand Jagurat - if that is indeed your real name - what this thread is designed for. I'll keep it simple.1. A place for me to whine about librarian..."

You are mistaken. The thread should fit with the stated use of the folder as explained at /topic/show/...


message 35: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Personally I feel it is a grievous oversight that she does not mention cats.


message 36: by Mr. James (last edited Dec 25, 2024 11:15AM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Martin wrote: "You are mistaken. The thread should fit with the stated use of the folder as explained at..."

I know man. I'm just trying to lighten the mood, especially today. Work and play don't have to be mutually exclusive.


message 37: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Roovers (sarah_roovers) | 12 comments I think I've found fellow cat lovers! :D


message 38: by Mr. James (last edited Jan 11, 2025 05:20PM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments I'm always game for a little fun.

Martin.

Please don't slap my hand. Librarians need a little fun from time to time - it's not like you're getting paid, that would be... absurd.

Anyway... Yeah. I say, "If you truly find something unique on cats post it. Just do it scarcely."

"Martin I'm trying to follow the rules, just give a little bend... yo."

I'll always post with Scott & Twayna in mind, since they are the origin story.

So on "special days", or if I find something interesting, I'll post it.

I'm NOT being a jerk. Like I said, "Fun and play don't need to be mutually exclusive." :)

Cheers,
Mr. James

PS. Since I have to end on a cat note Ill say, "Scott! Thank for appreciating my
Chunk story. I've only had one cat in my life, and him being proportioned the way he was still brings a smile to my face, and a laugh from the thought of his swinging gut. So thanks."


message 39: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments Ok. No joke. I know I posted yesterday, but my boy Liong, just committed on his old review, making it pop up in my stream.

I can't resist: The Cat Who Saved Books

I'm actually going to read this one. Obviously it's about a topic I love, and the two people I posted this for, have revived my love for cats.

I assume Twayna has read this. Scott, I'd like to know if you have, but you're not obligated to post.

Good day.


message 40: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments I did not know of it but I am interested!


message 41: by Tawnya (new)

Tawnya | 3757 comments I wish it was on Unlimited. I asked my daughter if she had heard of it. She lived in Japan for three years. She loves all things cat related. She hadn't, but is interested as well. Her too be read file is huge.

When I was pregnant with her I bought a small orange tabby stuffed animal. It is in the first photos of her home from the hospital. The child is 35 and still has it.


message 42: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Wait, I was wrong, apparently I did know of that book because I added it to my to-read in October!


message 44: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments We'll Prescribe You a Cat appeared in my feed. I'm sure Scott, Tawnya, and all other cat lovers prescribe to this philosophy.

I like the minimal cover art.
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message 45: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Also on my to-read list.


message 46: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments I figured. It would be convenient if the image is to scale.


message 47: by Mr. James (last edited Apr 07, 2025 12:13PM) (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments I was researching cats today and I found a very long list of interesting facts, maybe you two can validate or reject some. There were over a hundred facts, but these are my two favorite sections.
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Facts About Cat Communication Cues

-A cat with a question-mark-shaped tail is asking, “Want to play?�

-According to Wilde, a slow blink is a “kitty kiss.� This movement shows contentment and trust.

-Cats have a unique “vocabulary� with their owner � each cat has a different set of vocalizations, purrs and behaviors.

-Cats have up to 100 different vocalizations � dogs only have 10.

-Cats find it threatening when you make direct eye contact with them.

-Cats mark you as their territory when they rub their faces and bodies against you, as they have scent glands in those areas.

-Cats may yawn as a way to end a confrontation with another animal. Think of it as their “talk to the hand� gesture.

-Hissing is defensive, not aggressive, says Wilde. “It’s an expression of fear, stress or discomfort of a threatened cat communicating ‘stay away,'� she says.

-If cats are fighting, the cat that’s hissing is the more vulnerable one, says Wilde.

-If your cat approaches you with a straight, almost vibrating tail, this means that she is extremely happy to see you.

-Kneading � which some people refer to as “making biscuits� � is a sign of contentment and happiness. Cats knead their mothers when they are nursing to stimulate the let-down of milk.

-Meowing is a behavior that cats developed exclusively to communicate with people.

-When a cat flops over and exposes his belly, it’s not always an invitation for a belly rub. A cat does this when he’s relaxed and showing trust.

-When cats hit you with retracted claws, they’re playing, not attacking.

-When dogs wag their tails, they may be expressing happiness. But this isn’t the case for cats! When your cat wags her tail, it’s her way of warning you that you are getting on her last nerve.

-When your cat sticks his butt in your face, he is doing so as a gesture of friendship.

-Whiskers are also good indicators of a cat’s mood. When a cat is scared, he put his whiskers back. But when a cat is in hunting mode, he puts his whiskers forward.

Your cat drapes its tail over another cat, your dog, or you as a symbol of friendship.
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Facts About Quirky Cat Behaviors � And Why They Happen

-Cats are very fussy about their water bowls; some prefer to ignore their bowls entirely in favor of drinking from the sink faucet.

-Cats groom other cats � and sometimes people � in a ritual called allogrooming.

-Cats like to sleep on things that smell like their owners, such as their pillows and dirty laundry (ick!).

-Cats love to sleep in laundry baskets, too, because they’re basically hiding places with peep holes.

-Cats often attack your ankles when they’re bored.

-Certain cats go crazy for foods you wouldn’t expect, like olives, potato chips, and the hops in beer.

-For some reason, cats really dislike citrus scents.

-If you can’t find your cat, you should look in a box or a bag, as these are some of their favorite hiding spots!

-Male cats who try to get to a female in heat can show very bizarre behavior � for example, some have been known to slide down chimneys! (Ha! Wonderful. Talk about committing.

-Many cats like to lick their owner’s freshly washed hair.

-Some cats love the smell of chlorine.

-Thieving behavior is not uncommon among cats. They will often grab objects like stuffed animals, feather dusters, and other things that remind them of prey.


message 48: by Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager (new)

Jaclyn (jaclyn_w) | 5926 comments Mod
The contents of this thread should not be in the Librarians Group and the thread should be closed.

However, I hesitate as I am owned by two cats (one black, one ginger) and so understand the importance of this thread.

Please do keep in mind that questions posed in the Librarian Quiz should not be asked in the group (and that the pass rate is 85%).


message 49: by Mr. James (new)

Mr. James | 107 comments All right, thank you Jaclyn. As I've said before, work and play shouldn't be mutually exclusive.

PLEASE share any cat stories if you want. What started this was Scott's avatar. It looks like my childhood cat Chunk... quite a character.


message 50: by Scott (new)

Scott | 4168 comments Shiro was a very influential cat.


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