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Thanks Michael,
Maybe you could share a link with us to a video of one of your favorites.

The first one is Stone Roses Fools Gold Check out the drummer in this clip he is the original bobble head
Next is New Order Touched By the Hand Of God this is a great parody of 80's Glam Metal
Next is Clint Eastwood by the Gorillaz this band is a Manga style project featuring the lead singer from Blur.
And talkinf og Blur here is there 90's classic Parklife
Ill finish off with the charming Lilly Allen

Pop: King of =

the classics include:
there must be a bazillion books on him, or there will be. the music tells the story best. he owned MTV. not literally, but without him where would they be?
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BOY is a new Swiss/German band (don't worry; no Whompah nor Alp horns...) - Valeska Steiner and Sonja Glass - who just brought out their first album called Mutual Friends - on Grönland Records (Herbert Grönemeyer's own company).
Mr. Grönemeyer is a very popular Rock singer in Germany. He is a good musician too - you might have heard his music on the soundtrack of his photographer-turned-director friend Anton Corbijn's terrific thriller The American, starring George Clooney.
Anyway, back to BOY...
Here's the video:
More on BOY:
Herbert Grönemeyer
Anton Corbijn
George Clooney
Mr. Grönemeyer is a very popular Rock singer in Germany. He is a good musician too - you might have heard his music on the soundtrack of his photographer-turned-director friend Anton Corbijn's terrific thriller The American, starring George Clooney.
Anyway, back to BOY...
Here's the video:
More on BOY:
Herbert Grönemeyer
Anton Corbijn

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Here's a very nice Dutch singer whose album ended up high in both the Dutch and the UK charts:
Caro Emerald
Caro Emerald

I read this book and it offers an in-depth and chilling look at a man who loved success but couldn't handle it.

Jill wrote: "A man who changed the pop scene in the 60-70s era was Phil Spector with his Wall of Sound..."
Well, what do I say. You've got to love it. Personally I can't stand it. For me one often has got nothing to do with the other.
Best example: Ike and Tina Turner whose Spector version of Rivers Deep Mountains High was extremely successful (also with the white crowd).
Thank goodness they decided to redo it a little later.
Check out the difference - and tell me what you think.
I believe you always need to give the artist enough free space to stay true to his genius and then let him go from there. If you try to fence in things by forcing your stamp onto someone/something you might risk of losing the most precious part.
Rick Rubin is a producer who I really admire for his having the guts to let the artist truly create and be himself. Especially nowadays with most of the productions sounding as if coming out of the same washing machine...
Back to Phil Spector's Wall: Tina was pure and raw energy (especially together with Ike) adding all that sound with the full orchestra - it just spoils everything for me.
But as so often, taste differs.
See/hear for yourself:
From the Spector recording session:
Basic Ike and Tina:
Phil Spector
Tina Turner
Ike Turner
Well, what do I say. You've got to love it. Personally I can't stand it. For me one often has got nothing to do with the other.
Best example: Ike and Tina Turner whose Spector version of Rivers Deep Mountains High was extremely successful (also with the white crowd).
Thank goodness they decided to redo it a little later.
Check out the difference - and tell me what you think.
I believe you always need to give the artist enough free space to stay true to his genius and then let him go from there. If you try to fence in things by forcing your stamp onto someone/something you might risk of losing the most precious part.
Rick Rubin is a producer who I really admire for his having the guts to let the artist truly create and be himself. Especially nowadays with most of the productions sounding as if coming out of the same washing machine...
Back to Phil Spector's Wall: Tina was pure and raw energy (especially together with Ike) adding all that sound with the full orchestra - it just spoils everything for me.
But as so often, taste differs.
See/hear for yourself:
From the Spector recording session:
Basic Ike and Tina:
Phil Spector




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Jill wrote: "Andre: I couldn't agree more on the River Deep Mountain High recording by Tina...she was totally overwhelmed by all that orchestra...it didn't suit her style..."
I like the youtube clip "showing" the effort he took to make it sound his way. He sure knows his stuff. I just wonder how someone so experienced with all the instruments and recording techniques fails to see what he is doing to talents like Ike and Tina...
Phil Spector
Tina Turner
Ike Turner
I like the youtube clip "showing" the effort he took to make it sound his way. He sure knows his stuff. I just wonder how someone so experienced with all the instruments and recording techniques fails to see what he is doing to talents like Ike and Tina...
Phil Spector




Hmmm, Jill. I would not say I'm a fan. But I love good music, good songs, great voices and I think Such A Beautiful Noise is one. SInce I added that one I thought I'd throw in a few others too.
And then there is of course this one - written by Neil Diamond but made unforgettable by the great Johnny Cash:
Neil Diamond
Johnny Cash
And then there is of course this one - written by Neil Diamond but made unforgettable by the great Johnny Cash:



Her version of the "Star Spangled Banner" in 1991 at Super Bowl XXV is amazing.....as good as it gets.

Nicely said, Bea.

Loves Grows Where My Rosemary Goes - Edison Lighthouse
Jill wrote: "(I can almost hear Andre screaming!!!)..."
Don't worry, Jill - I've heard - and SEEN - worse. Guess who I'm thinking of...
Just please don't ask me to add The Rubettes and the likes...
The song title made me think of another band (more rock than pop, but hey, sometimes the music covers both genres:
Lifehouse
Everything:
Hanging By A Moment:
Don't worry, Jill - I've heard - and SEEN - worse. Guess who I'm thinking of...
Just please don't ask me to add The Rubettes and the likes...
The song title made me think of another band (more rock than pop, but hey, sometimes the music covers both genres:
Lifehouse
Everything:
Hanging By A Moment:

Thanks a lot. Now I have "yummy, yummy, yummy, I've got love in my tummy" floating around in my head......lol.....


Cheeseburger in Paradise - Jimmy Buffett

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Oops, Trampps..:
The Trammps:
Disco Inferno (nice simplistic yet pushy drums):
a little faster with a nice pushy guitar:
Tina doing her stuff:
Tina Turner:
The Trammps:
Disco Inferno (nice simplistic yet pushy drums):
a little faster with a nice pushy guitar:
Tina doing her stuff:
Tina Turner:
More 70/80's dance/disco:
Amii Stewart:
Knock on Wood:
Anita Ward:
Ring My Bell:
Thelma Houston:
Don't Leave Me This Way:
Donna SUmmer:
MacArthur Park:
Tavares:
More Than A Woman:
KC and the Sunshine Band:
That's the Way I Like It:
hmmmm, delicious!
Shake, Shake, Shake, Shake Your Booty:
Jimmy 'Bo' Horne:
SPank:
Amii Stewart:
Knock on Wood:
Anita Ward:
Ring My Bell:
Thelma Houston:
Don't Leave Me This Way:
Donna SUmmer:
MacArthur Park:
Tavares:
More Than A Woman:
KC and the Sunshine Band:
That's the Way I Like It:
hmmmm, delicious!
Shake, Shake, Shake, Shake Your Booty:
Jimmy 'Bo' Horne:
SPank:
Want mooooore?
The Bee Gees:
Stayin' Alive:
Kool & The Gang:
Ladies Night:
McFadden & Whitehead:
Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now:
George McCray:
Rock Your Baby:
Evelyn Champagne King:
Shame:
Sister Sledge:
He's The Greatest Dancer:
Chic:
Le Freak:
The Bee Gees:
Stayin' Alive:
Kool & The Gang:
Ladies Night:
McFadden & Whitehead:
Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now:
George McCray:
Rock Your Baby:
Evelyn Champagne King:
Shame:
Sister Sledge:
He's The Greatest Dancer:
Chic:
Le Freak:

The Trammps:
Disco Inferno (nice simplistic yet pushy drums):
a little faster with a nice pushy guitar:
..."
Tina, you are the Greatest! Notice how her backup dancers are getting winded and they aren't even singing at 110%?
Bea wrote: "Tina, you are the Greatest!..."
And she's so much fun! She always makes me laugh - her performances are so vibrant yet at the same time also so funny...
As to the dancers - I personally think these too orchestrated - most of the later ones.
I definitely preferred the girls she had with her while she was still with Ike. It felt more like a unit and it was rougher.
And she's so much fun! She always makes me laugh - her performances are so vibrant yet at the same time also so funny...
As to the dancers - I personally think these too orchestrated - most of the later ones.
I definitely preferred the girls she had with her while she was still with Ike. It felt more like a unit and it was rougher.

You might like this one:
Tina Turner:
Goodbye, So Long:
from my favorite Ike and Tina concert "Live in Paris":
(what I mean when I say the dancers are having fun...)
one more:
Nutbush City Limits:
Tina Turner
Ike Turner
Tina Turner:
Goodbye, So Long:
from my favorite Ike and Tina concert "Live in Paris":
(what I mean when I say the dancers are having fun...)
one more:
Nutbush City Limits:



My Mistake - Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye
Two beautiful people.


Allman and Woman - Gregg Allman and Cher


Here's their LIVE winning performance. Gotta love the '70's glam outfits.
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Pop music (a term that originally derives from an abbreviation of "popular") is usually understood to be commercially recorded music, often oriented towards a youth market, usually consisting of relatively short, simple love songs utilizing technological innovations to produce new variations on existing themes.
Pop music has absorbed influences from most other forms of popular music, but as a genre is particularly associated with the rock and roll and later rock style.
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