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Does anyone else find it kind of frustrating that the fandom is kinda small and scattered. I mean I have no problem with it being small, it's just hard finding other fans.

I wonder if potential readers in bookshops/stores are put off by the 'scholarly' intros and appendices. If you can move beyond them on an initial reading then the Pellinor series is as good a fantasy sequence as any I've read: readable, compelling, intelligent and full of humanity.

i'm from the other group, but it's hard to find fans for the books that's why i get my friends to read them. the series is REALLY good! i think just more people have to hear about them, i heard about them from my mom who tries to get books that don't have Vampires, but an actual good plot. i think when people start getting sick of those type of books and want something that is "readable, compelling, intelligent and full of humanity" the Pellinor series will become a best seller. they really are EVERY good!!!

I feel like the book market is completely over saturated with the teen supernatural romance genre that other books have taken a backseat.

I agree--just look at the giveaways on offer!

i like supernauteral books, but the teen section was way to many of them, i surprise that they're still coming out, you'd think that tones of people would be sick of them by now.

You guys know Alison Croggon is now a Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ author? (yea!!)

Linda wrote: "You guys know Alison Croggon is now a Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ author? (yea!!)"

Yes, it came through on Facebook, didn't it?

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The reviews I've seen were almost universally dismissive.

I sort of like the plot of the first Twilight book, but all the rest are just a bit overkeel...her writing isn't that good either.

Please may I borrow that metaphor? I LOVE it!!!

I get the impression that some of you don't like vampires...

Chris wrote: "I get the impression that some of you don't like vampires..."

I LOVE vampires, (when they they don't sparkle) Dracula, Salem's lot, they're great books and I love the actual history of vampires such as Lady Erzsebet Bathory or Vlad the Impaler.

I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for this thought, but here goes!

I've read all or some of three outstanding epic fantasy series in the last few years. They're (1) Garth Nix's Old Kingdom series (beginning with Sabriel, (2) Alison Croggon's Pellinor titles and (3) Trudi Canavan's Black Magician series (though I've only read the prequel, The Magician's Apprentice so far).

All of them have well developed storylines, characters and worlds, plus they are very well written (and presumably edited too!).

But what strikes me about all three authors is that they're all Antipodean, that is they're all from Down Under (as far as the UK is concerned, at least!). Does that help to give them a particular take that North American and UK authors don't have?

I've noticed that, while Nix's geography is centred on a mythified Hadrian's Wall between 'England' and 'Scotland' (the Old Kingdom) and Croggon's is based on a notion of Atlantis (or an Atlantic continent), Canavan's world is 'upside down', with milder lands to the south and warmer lands to the north. This might be a reflection of the fact that she lives in Melbourne.

Anyway, I'm going off at a tangent! My point is, do you think the Australian viewpoint (not to mention their own personal talents) has allowed these authors to come up with fresh approaches to what could be a tired genre?

maybe, I never really thought of it. They are three of my favourite series and three of my favourite authors (I have read all of Canavan's books and loved them) but i had never really thought of how their nationality might play a role in their writing style other than if they say "pants" or "trousers."

Hi! I'm new to goodreads, but would just like to say I love the pellinor books. My copy of the gift (or the naming in other countries) is extremely worn and tattered from over reading. I kind of like that there isn't heaps and heaps of fans out there, means there isn't the mass hysteria associated with the books that you find with twilight and Harry potter.
I'm from Australia and our hotter regions are to the north, which is the opposite of the books. I think someone had previously commented that croggon living in Melbourne was the reason the temps where the way they where in the books... Melbourne is in southern Australia and cold!

Clare wrote: "Melbourne is in southern Australia and cold! ..."

Good to hear from another Pellinorite! And glad to hear that, as an Aussie, you can confirm the temperature differences (though I'm guessing you're in somewhere warmer!) which may be echoed in the feel of the Canavan stories, and inverted in the Pellinor books. Though I always understood that Melbourne had a great cafe culture, which surely doesn't go well with bitter cold.

Hey Clare, welcome to the group! Also yay! Anther person who calls it The Gift!!

i will admit it took me ages to figure out the naming was the gift! i kept thinking i made missed a book!

I thought that too! I had to read the first chapter just to make sure I wasn't being duped!

i was convinced that it was another book and that australia didnt have it yet!

Monklin wrote: "Does anyone else find it kind of frustrating that the fandom is kinda small and scattered. I mean I have no problem with it being small, it's just hard finding other fans."

I know!! I keep trying to find other people who are just as obsessed with Pellinor as I am, but whenever I mention it I'm greeted with blank stares. No one seems to know what it is! And it's such a pity, because the Pellinor series is one of my favorites.