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Noumenon Quotes

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Gustav Meyrink
“Buchstaben zu empfinden, sie nicht nur mit den Augen in Büchern zu lesen, - einen Dolmetsch in mir selbst aufzustellen, der mir übersetzt, was die Instinkte ohne Worte raunen, darin muß der Schlüssel liegen, sich mit dem eigenen Innern durch klare Sprache zu verständigen, begriff ich.”
Gustav Meyrink, The Golem

Carlos Castaneda
“He explained that the leaf had fallen over and over from that same tree so I would stop trying to understand.”
Carlos Castaneda, A Separate Reality: Further Conversations with Don Juan

Dejan Stojanovic
“According to Plato, the Ultimate Primary Quality (Noumenon, or the thing in itself, the Being, or God) is accessible by pure thought or intuition. Since it is not in the “materialâ€� mode of secondary quality (formerly primary), according to Kant, it cannot be accessed and experienced by the senses.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“Kant’s idea about experience implies that it is the only measure of appearances or “realityâ€� as presented to us and not as it necessarily is. Reality, as we experience it, is an illusion. The world we experience is the world of appearances or the sensible world, and the world beyond our reach, beyond the possibility of experience, is the intelligible world.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“Kant insists on experience in terms of cognition and understanding, which further implies that pure thought accessing the noumenal world is, in a way, impossible since there is no experience to check it. We state not only that the whole world is an “illusionâ€� but that the Noumenon, as the ultimate source, is the creator of the phenomenal world operating as a program of the Noumenal domain of the same world.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“The phenomenal world is only a different domain of the noumenal world. It is the “intentionâ€� of the noumenal to become, on some level, phenomenal. Although from the perspective of the phenomenal, noumenal seems to be metaphysical and transcendent, from the perspective of the noumenal, phenomenal is immanent. Regardless of not having direct immaterial access to the noumenal, through our experience of the phenomenal, we experience the noumenal at the same time.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“In my system of thought, noumenal is the immaterial oneness or singularity, and the phenomenal is “materialâ€� plurality. Kant thought that the merging of phenomena and noumena transforms everything into appearances and that this would be the artificial way or “illegitimateâ€� way to experience noumena. Since the created world is an “illusionâ€� (conditionally speaking), everything stays noumena. Still, on the superficial level of the made reality, we experience the hierarchies and degrees of the qualities of the new reality.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“The new “realityâ€� requires different experiences and imposes other instruments of experience. The World beyond “new realityâ€� does not require sensory experience. Universal Mind (we can equate it with Noumenon) is still the underlying reality, hypostasis of all, and our experience of “reality,â€� or phenomenal, is, at the same time, the experience of the noumenal, but on the minuscule level. This ability of the noumenal to transform into phenomenal is the secret of existence, life, purpose, and meaning. We may say that, without appearances or phenomena, noumenal loses meaning.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“This absolute potential possesses potential for unlimited variations. The possibility for variations is infinite. The infinite potential and possibility in its total capacity are unknown even to the Noumenon itself, and that is probably the main secret and beauty of existence, of the noumenal and of phenomenal, the main secret of the Being capable of becoming and capable of just being the Being in all its glory and potential.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“When we use the word illusion, we mean something is not real in a broader sense. Yet, how do we define reality and illusion? Does reality depend on our senses, understanding, and definitions or on what it is objectively? Why would our senses, “definitions,â€� and “understanding,â€� or lack of it, not be reality irrespective of our idea of reality? What constitutes reality? Who decides what reality is? Would it not be logical that whatever exists is real? Even if something does not exist, we can imagine the reality of nonexistence. If everything that exists is real, we can only talk about the degrees or levels of reality without denying reality to something we do not understand. Our lack of understanding shall not be an obstacle to reality but a motivator to try harder and get closer to the most “realâ€� of what is possible.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“Indeed, we do not experience noumena directly. Still, since the phenomena are the program of the noumenon or the transformed noumenon itself, we may be able to think and understand (to some extent) the thing in itself, Noumenon or the Being (Universal Mind). Although transcendent, Noumenon is immanent at the same time. Phenomena are the emanations of the Noumenon.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“Noumenon, or the “thingâ€� in itself, is the reality without reality.
Ultimate reality is the annihilation of reality.
A Sourceless Source is sterile without creating.
Ultimate Source is the beginning and end at the same time.
Without creating or transforming, the Ultimate Source is the
dead world.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“The purpose and meaning are found in constant transformations and creation of multitudes, allowing the ultimate oneness, singularity, to breathe and live through dispersion into the nothingness that the Source swallows.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“Our senses, cognition, and understanding are the result of conditioning. We are not the creators of our senses or our cognition and understanding in the deepest and fullest sense. Without our conditioning, there would be nothing. Senses, cognition, and understanding among human beings may differ only in degree, based on education or intellectual capacity, but not in mystical or mysterious ways.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“We can follow Plato and Kant and agree that the world of phenomena is an illusion and that noumenon is reality. Still, we must add that reality is lost or undermined without this illusion. In this way of reasoning, we conclude that although reality is the creator of an illusion in the form of an “artificialâ€� reality or the world, this “illusionâ€� is also the creator of the reality of the Being itself or the thing in itself. Both reality and illusion are equally important. Without the one, the other loses its meaning and purpose.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“We may ask the question: What is reality? What is the real or objective reality? Finally, we may be surprised by the ultimate answer of reality: that the thing or reality is the illusion itself because the Ultimate Source, the Ultimate Reality, at its supreme point, is equal to Nothingness. That would mean that the Ultimate Reality is Nothingness. The Ultimate Source is the Ultimate Potential. Whether the actualization of this potential is reality or illusion is irrelevant. What is important is the existence and realization of the potential.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“In actuality, reality is an illusion. If it were not an illusion, to some degree, it would be the “Godâ€� itself, the realization, Oneneness without the beginning or end. That would end everything because everything would transform into its primordial state of Nothingness. Ultimate reality, or Nothingness, is therefore without purpose. The purpose is created by altering the Ultimate Reality (noumenon) into the world of plurality, so the plurality itself is an “illusionâ€� that secures purpose. Without this illusion, there is no reality in an absolute sense. The road to reality is an illusion. Thanks to this illusion, there is existence in a broader sense. Limitations are the source of movement. Without separations and limits, there would be no movement but only frozen Oneness.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“If the will materializes as an idea, this distinction becomes less distinct. Almost the same scenarios, as in metaphysics, can be applied here within the realm of the physical world. What serves the role of the noumenon in Plato’s sense (even Kantian) is replaced here not by a metaphysical (transcendental) idea but by an always-present “idea,â€� carried by will and manifested through the world (matter).”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE

Dejan Stojanovic
“For Schopenhauer, there is only one underlying reality; for Kant, there are things in themselves as a plurality. The difference is singularity against plurality (diversity). But this difference may be only on the surface, for it is hard to imagine that Kant thought of noumenon (if equated to a thing in itself) as of plurality, but rather that things in themselves are not differentiated in the noumenon as they are in the world of phenomena for these phenomena are only particular, phenomenal manifestations of the One—Noumenon (although this may not be the case with Plato). Let’s think deeper about Plato’s idea of noumenon. We may conclude that, although on a superficial level, noumenon may contain plurality, when we look deeper, we may conclude that Plato’s noumenon is singularity too. Regardless of the description and explanation in the Republic, Plato’s noumenon is or may be the undifferentiated One. The idea that the world we see and the things in it are only the shadows of an underlying reality or noumena does not necessarily mean that all these things have their literal equivalents in the noumenon. In the end, there seems to be less difference between Plato’s forms (ideas) and Kant’s things in themselves than it looks like on the surface. Still, noumenon, although being a singularity, being the One and universal underlying reality, contains plurality as a potential.”
Dejan Stojanovic, ABSOLUTE