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The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
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The Things They Carried is so full of microburst storytelling that its shortcomings as a fully formed narrative are overcome. Tim O'Brien first published many of these chapters as short stories: Speaking of Courage (1976) appeared in Massachusetts Review and won an O. Henry Award in 1978; The Ghost Soldiers (1981), The Things They Carried (1986), How To Tell a True War Story (1987), The Lives of the Dead (1987) and Sweetheart of the Song Tra Bong (1989) appeared in Esquire; In the Field (1989) in Gentleman's Quarterly and On the Rainy River (1990) in Playboy.

The Vietnam War became heavily dramatized in the years leading up to the publication of The Things They Carried, in film (Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket being the standard bearers), on TV (Tour of Duty on CBS, China Beach on ABC and Vietnam War Story on HBO) and even a Top 40 pop tune ("19" by Paul Hardcastle) which used period newsreels as lyrics. The triumph of the book is the way O'Brien--sometimes using violence, sometimes not--is able to strike like lightning on a clear day, searing details across my imagination that I won't be able to get out anytime soon:

-- On ambush, or other night missions, they carried peculiar little odds and ends. Kiowa always took along his New Testament and a pair of moccasins for silence. Dave Jensen carried night-vision vitamins high in carotene. Lee Strunk carried his slingshot; ammo, he claimed, would never be a problem. Rat Kiley carried brandy and M&M's candy. Until he was shot, Ted Lavender carried the starlight scope, which weighed 6.3 pounds with its aluminum carrying case. Henry Dobbins carried his girlfriend's pantyhose wrapped around his neck as a comforter. They all carried ghosts. When dark came, they would move out single file across the meadows and paddies to their ambush coordinates, where they would quietly set up the Claymores and lie down and spend the night waiting.

-- If you weren't humping, you were waiting. I remember the monotony. Digging foxholes. Slapping mosquitoes. The sun and the heat and the endless paddies. Even in the deep bush, where you could die any number of ways, the war was nakedly and aggressively boring. But it was a strange boredom. It was boredom with a twist, the kind of boredom that caused stomach disorders. You'd be sitting at the top of a high hill, the flat paddies stretching out below, and the day would be calm and hot and utterly vacant, and you'd feel the boredom dripping inside you like a leaky faucet, except it wasn't water, it was a sort of acid, and with each little droplet you'd feel the stuff eating away at the important organs. You'd try to relax. You'd uncurl your fists and let your thoughts go. Well, you'd think, this isn't so bad. And right then you'd hear gunfire behind you and your nuts would fly up into your throat and you'd be squealing pig squeals. That kind of boredom.

-- Often in a true war story there is not even a point, or else the point doesn't hit you until twenty years later, in your sleep, and you wake up and shake your wife and start telling the story to her, except when you get to the end you've forgotten the point again. And then for a long time you lie there watching the story happen in your head. You listen to your wife's breathing. The war's over. You close your eyes. You take a feeble swipe at the dark and think, Christ, what's the point?

-- What happened to her, Rat said, was what happened to all of them. You come over clean and you get dirty and then afterward it's never the same. A question of degree. Some make it intact, some don't make it at all. For Mary Anne Bell, it seemed, Vietnam had the effect of a powerful drug: that mix of unnamed terror and unnamed pleasure that comes as the needle slips in and you know you're risking something. The endorphins start to flow, and the adrenaline, and you hold your breath and creep quietly through the moonlit nightscapes; you become intimate with danger; you're in touch with the far side of yourself, as though it's another hemisphere, and you want to string it out and go wherever the trip takes you and be host to all the possibilities inside yourself.

-- The countryside itself seemed spooky--shadows and tunnels and incense burning in the dark. The land was haunted. We were fighting forces that did not obey the laws of twentieth-century science. Late at night, on guard, it seemed that all of Vietnam was alive and shimmering--odd shapes swaying in the paddies, boogiemen in sandals, and Charlie Cong was the main ghost. The way he came out at night. How you never really saw him, just thought you did. Almost magical--appearing, disappearing. He could blend with the land, changing form, becoming trees and grass. He could fly. He could pass through barbed wire and melt away like ice and creep up on you without sound or footsteps. He was scary. In the daylight, maybe, you didn't believe in this stuff. You laughed it off. You made jokes. But at night you turned into a believer: no skeptics in foxholes.

O'Brien's command of prose, the marriage of the literary with the journalistic, is the chief reason to read The Things They Carried. The focus is not placed on battles or events or what happened in the war, but on how a wide variety of stimuli in Vietnam made O'Brien feel about the war. As he points out after an encounter with a dear little old lady leaving one of his book readings, this is not a war story, it's a love story. The approach seems righteous and much of the material is drawn from that well. And many of the stories he tells are unforgettable, playing with truth to the point the author has to address the subjective nature of truth at one point, but hard to put out of my mind.

As drunken as I was on O'Brien's command of prose and his storytelling, there are three reasons why The Things They Carried stopped short of total satisfaction for me. The first is that instead of one chapter leading into the next and so on, these are vignettes, some masterful, others pedestrian, each self-contained for the most part. Second, there's an anticlimactic quality in this jumping around that took me out of the novel, something that was not a problem as long as these vignettes were published in magazines or literary journals. Third, and also no fault of O'Brien's, I felt that so much of his material had been strip mined by film and television, by 2016, I'd seen a lot of it already.

It's difficult for me to imagine that Full Metal Jacket and other movies didn't draw inspiration from O'Brien or use him as a war correspondent--the adrenaline kick of combat mixed with the absolute terror of being killed being a recurring theme in the Stanley Kubrick film in particular. O'Brien addresses the ritualistic joking the grunts utilized to avoid dealing with death, the scripted nature of which became a criticism of Full Metal Jacket. Still, I can see why the book has become a staple of high school and college English curriculum. O'Brien used his experiences to mold a deeply felt and powerful document of a time that history might otherwise soon forget.
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Reading Progress

July 18, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
July 18, 2014 – Shelved
December 5, 2016 – Started Reading
December 5, 2016 –
page 1
0.43% "First Lieutenant Jimmy Cross carried letters from a girl named Martha, a junior at Mount Sebastian College in New Jersey. They were not love letters, but Lieutenant Cross was hoping, so he kept them folded in plastic at the bottom of his rucksack."
December 6, 2016 –
page 20
8.58% "There it is, they'd say. Over and over--there it is, my friend, there it is--as if the repetition itself were an act of poise, a balance between crazy and almost crazy, knowing without going, there it is, which meant be cool, let it ride, because Oh yeah, man, you can't change what can't be changed, there it is, there it absolutely and positively and fucking well is."
December 6, 2016 –
page 30
12.88% "The war wasn't all terror and violence. Sometimes things could almost get sweet. For instance, I remember a little boy with a plastic leg. I remember how he hopped over to Azar and asked for a chocolate bar--"GI number one," the kid said--and Azar laughed and handed over the chocolate. When the boy hopped away, Azar clucked his tongue and said, "War's a bitch.""
December 6, 2016 –
page 58
24.89% "The day was cloudy. I passed through towns with familiar names, through the pine forests and down to the prairie, and then to Vietnam, where I was a soldier, and then home again. I survived, but it's not a happy ending. I was a coward. I went to the war."
December 7, 2016 –
page 78
33.48% "Often in a true war story there is not even a point, or else the point doesn't hit you until twenty years later, in your sleep, and you wake up and shake your wife and start telling the story to her, except when you get to the end you've forgotten the point again. And then for a long time you lie there watching the story happen in your head."
December 7, 2016 –
page 109
46.78% "What happened to her, Rat said, was what happened to all of them. You come over clean and you get dirty and then afterward it's never the same. A question of degree. Some make it intact, some don't make it at all. For Mary Anne Bell, it seemed, Vietnam had the effect of a powerful drug: that mix of unnamed terror and unnamed pleasure that comes as the needle slips in and you know you're risking something."
December 8, 2016 –
page 171
73.39% "Henry Dobbins was a good man, and a superb soldier, but sophistication was not his strong suit. In many ways he was like America itself, big and strong, full of good intentions, a roll of fat jiggling at his belly, slow of foot but always plodding along, always there when you needed him, a believer in the virtues of simplicity and directness and hard labor."
December 8, 2016 –
page 193
82.83% "The countryside itself seemed spooky--shadows and tunnels and incense burning in the dark. The land was haunted. We were fighting forces that did not obey the laws of twentieth-century science. Late at night, on guard, it seemed that all of Vietnam was alive and shimmering--odd shapes swaying in the paddies, boogiemen in sandals, and Charlie Cong was the main ghost."
December 8, 2016 – Finished Reading
December 9, 2016 – Shelved as: fiction-general
December 9, 2016 – Shelved as: anthology

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Carmen Great review, Joseph. I've seen much fewer Vietnam movies than you have, perhaps that is why I enjoyed this more than you did. I was interested in hearing your thoughts, O'Brien is such a powerful writer.


Basia Brilliantly reviewed, Joe! Thank you.

As much as I love this book, I have to agree with your 3 main points. Definitely, these are discrete stories, and that can be a drawback when read as a novel. And without a doubt, it's been strip mined to death. As has been the Vietnam "nonfiction" book by who was it? Joe Halderman? I forget. The guy who wrote The Forever War and most recently, that Fireman novel.

Not sure whether you've looked at HIS take on the subject. Unlike O'Brien's, his reads as barely truthful. Very suspect, in my view. Heck! Might be worth a look just for this reason alone!

But O'Brien at his A game is AMAZING.


Basia Carmen said it perfectly: a POWERFUL writer.


Glee Nicely done, Joe. A really powerful book. At the end, I was exhausted. But glad I read it. For me, Matterhorn is probably the best of the what-it-is-like-to-go-to-war books. But in this one, I kept seeing the faces of boys I'd gone to high school with, including a few who didn't come home.


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Joe Carmen wrote: "Great review, Joseph. I've seen much fewer Vietnam movies than you have, perhaps that is why I enjoyed this more than you did. I was interested in hearing your thoughts, O'Brien is such a powerful writer."

Thank you so much, linda. It just occurred to me that Grunt: The Curious Science of Humans at War by Mary Roach would make a strong complement to Tim O'Brien's vignettes; at least, if I was teaching a community college English course on war it might be as good a place to start as any.


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Joe Basia wrote: "Brilliantly reviewed, Joe! Thank you."

You're so welcome, Basia, and thank you for your effusive comments!

Basia wrote: "Carmen said it perfectly: a POWERFUL writer."

Yes, she did. I hope I'm not being an asshole by drawing a distinction between a great short story writer (O'Brien) and a great novel. Inconsequential to some readers but something I picked up on.


Basia No. I feel you outlined your true impressions with such skill that your true intent shines brightly in every point you make.


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Joe Glee wrote: "Nicely done, Joe. A really powerful book. At the end, I was exhausted. But glad I read it. For me, Matterhorn is probably the best of the what-it-is-like-to-go-to-war books. But in this one, I kept seeing the faces of boys I'd gone to high school with, including a few who didn't come home."

Thank you so much, Glee, for the book recommendation and well as sharing your thoughts. Man, I can only hope that teenagers would read O'Brien's novel before enlisting in the armed services.


Glee When I went to high school, there was this thing called the draft... the ones who went to college got a pass while enrolled, but then... a few who figured it out went to Canada...


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Sharon Amazing review as always, Joe. I've been eyeing this one for a while. Officially on my "to read" list now!


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Joe Sharon wrote: "Amazing review as always, Joe. I've been eyeing this one for a while. Officially on my "to read" list now!"

Thank you so much, Sharon. I had heard nothing but effusive praise for O'Brien and he lived up to it as a writer and war chronicler. I've heard that Going After Cacciato is amazing as well.


Julie G Joe, I loved this line from your review, "the marriage of the literary with the journalistic is the chief reason to read The Things They Carried."


message 13: by Joe (last edited Feb 08, 2018 05:14PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Joe Julie wrote: "Joe, I loved this line from your review, "the marriage of the literary with the journalistic is the chief reason to read The Things They Carried.""

Julie, you know this is one of my ten favorite novels, so I truly enjoyed you resurrecting it for me. Thank you. I haven't ventured into Iraq War fiction or non-fiction but can't imagine a better book to read for someone who had a loved one returning from active duty to get some idea of what the experience might have been like for them.


message 14: by JanB (new) - rated it 5 stars

JanB I recently finished this one - such a great book and a timely read for me after watching Ken Burn's The Vietnam War. Great review Joe!


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