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The English Patient by Michael Ondaatje
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2 Stars

I’m going to venture out of my normal review style here, and instead do a Q & A with Hana (the, erm... MC, maybe?!)

Me: Hey Hana, what’s up with you not leaving the Italian Villa despite the fact that there are corpses and mines littered everywhere and the war has ended already?

Hana: I just don’t think "The English Patient" would survive the transfer and I love my independence here. I mean where else can I give an immobile man sponge baths, inject him with morphine AND play hopscotch in darkened hallways?

Me: *puzzled stare* Moving on: Why do you seem to have a pseudo-sexual relationship with all the men in this book, despite the fact that one is purporting to be "like an Uncle" and another is entirely bedridden??

Hana: Well, I am a woman surrounded by men, need I say more?? *shoulder shrug*

Me: Well, yeah, I kind of need more than that! But I’m not going to get any more explanation from you am I??

Hana: Nope. Just accept it.

Me: *growls* Fine. *teethgritting* What’s up with you and Kip?? He sounds really fascinating and kind, in a quiet withheld way. Don’t you think his job as a sapper is intriguing?

Hana: I just really enjoy his silence, and the way he can enter a room and take up next to no space in it. That’s why I so frequently use bird references when thinking about him. Also his skin is brown like darkness, I like it.

Me: ...okay?! So you’re saying that the most interesting part of this man who has lived in India, travelled to London and taken on an occupation that has an unimaginably high mortality rate (I mean defusing BOMBS, come ON!) is the fact that he can disappear into shadows?? This is why you became lovers?

Hana: No, he was kind of just there, I guess.

Me: Well, that’s romantic! *headdesk* What’s the story with the English Patient? Why’s he so special?

Hana: Oh, he was burned all over in a plane crash so it turned his skin dark. I like dark skin, even when it’s from life-endangering burns!

Me: What does that even... ?? And his story, don’t you want to know who he is and how he came to be here?

Hana: No, not really. My sort-of-sexually-attracted-to-me Uncle is far more interested in his story. I’ll leave them to their morphine and stories.

Me: Okay then. What is the point of this story exactly?

Hana: What do you mean "point"?? It’s about love and loss, AND it’s really erotic.

Me: *blank stare* It is?? I thought it was about pages and pages of dates and exerts from other books that never really become part of the overall story, and love affairs that aren’t hot enough to heat a baby's bathwater.

Hana: But it’s so erotic because Kip is Indian and boy-like despite being in his late twenties. Did I mention his skin is darker than mine?

Me: For god’s sake� YES, yes you did, five hundred million times!! Okay final question: Why in the world would I give a shit about your affair or the English Patient’s affair (in hindsight)?

Hana: BECAUSE it’s roooommantiic!!

Me: I don’t buy it, I think that while this book has beautiful moments it is, overall, as bland as plain yogurt.

Hana: I don’t think you’re the type of person this book is meant to be read by.

Me: Neither do I.


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Reading Progress

November 12, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
November 12, 2014 – Shelved
November 12, 2014 – Shelved as: a-to-z-challenge
March 17, 2015 – Started Reading
March 18, 2015 –
page 100
33.11% "She entered the story knowing she would emerge from it feeling she had been immersed in the lives of others, in plots that stretched back twenty years, her body full of sentences and moments, as if awaking from sleep with a heaviness caused by unremembered dreams p.12



Not bad..."
March 18, 2015 – Shelved as: canadian-authors
March 20, 2015 –
page 217
71.85% "So, I have to admit that I quite like Kip (the bomb deactivating scenes are so interesting) BUT I'm not sure I get the overall story....

"
March 20, 2015 –
page 235
77.81% "[...] Hana now received this tender art, his nails against the million cells of her skin, in his tent, in 1945, where their continents met in a hill town.

There are some truly beautiful moments in this story, however, unless Ondaatje pulls some very fancy footwork in the last leg of this book, it will likely not be enough to overshadow the more frequent moments of utter blandness."
March 20, 2015 – Finished Reading
September 23, 2015 – Shelved as: willow-says-bored-now

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Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Ohhhhh, I thought about doing this one too.....I absolutely hated the movie but I hear the book is really good.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ I wanted to do at least one "war-themed" read for this challenge, and I had this one in my hands at one point but swapped it out for A Very Long Engagement.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ It is a French book in translation about World War I and a woman searching for the truth about her fiancee who was killed. It was made into a beautifully made French film quite a few years ago which is what put it on my radar. It starred Audrey Tautou and Gaspard Ulliel which are two of my favorites, but honestly, I remember really loving the movie, but its been so long since I've seen it, I don't really remember much about it.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Hahaha.... so last night Chris & I watched "The Faculty" (which I had seen ages ago - back when J.Hartnett was the big heartthrob of the time- and mostly forgotten). Not that the two are relatable..... my memory is just lousy and I forget all the things.

I have never been a big foreign film watcher.... (I know, I know.... TERRIBLE) so my knowledge of such works is very limited.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Ah! The Faculty.....God I loved that movie in high school

And I love foreign films, but I understand they are not everyone's cup of tea. You're not terrible.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Me too!!

It's not that I don't like them, it's more that I have no one to watch them with.


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Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Oh!!! Gotcha!! Yeah I have friends who watch them with me...My ex didn't like anything that wasn't Predator or Jaws, so subtitles were definitely out. I watch a lot of them by myself when I feel like having a solo night in.

I find that I am very partial to French films, though I don't know why. I've seen many from a variety of different countries. And I am a total sucker for any kind of Asian martial arts flick, particularly period pieces.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* And I am a sucker for English spoken Bollywood style films (like "bride & prejudice" or "my Bollywood bride") lol. I do watch films solo too but often they are Hollywood films CQ has no interest in.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Haha, I HATED Bride and Prejudice! But I do think Bollywood films are fun to watch. I love Bend it Like Beckham and Slumdog Millionaire


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* I blame Ashwana Rai.... I adore her. I liked "bend it like beckham" - but then that's kiera knightley, as well and sheis one of my faves.


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Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ I agree....Ashwana Rai is lovely!

I played soccer, so BILB hit all the right notes, though I do love Keira when she's not being an annoying sap (cough Atonement cough cough Pride and Prejudice)....Plus I have a little bitty crush on Jonathan Rhys Meyers too...


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Lol!! You don't say ;) JRM was the face my fellow player gave my mentor when I was playing Vampire: The Mascarade (an RPG).... It was a problem for me lol


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ I've never heard of that....


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Lol, I'm a nerd on a whole different level ;). RPG = role play game, the most famous one being "dungeons & dragons" (which regretfully I have yet to play)


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Oh ok...gotcha! Never apologize for being a nerd!! Nerds and weirdos unite!


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Haha! Yes! I wasn't apologizing lol just explaining. I love RPGing, I was so sad when our group fell apart. I'm currently trying to figure out a D&D group who holds their sessions on Fridays.... I just feel bad doing it because that is basically the only guaranteed evening I get to spend with CQ.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ Aww!! I've never known anybody who did it, but it always sounded fun...I mean, I am an actress so I know how fun it is to be able to play somebody else for awhile...I totally get it.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* I always loved acting in school, so for me RPGs are a no brainer. Granted I won't go as far as the Live-Action stuff. That's too much, even for me.


Jess ❈Harbinger of Blood-Soaked Rainbows❈ I agree with you there! And that whole fetish about dressing up as furry animals.....I don't understand that one either, but I still don't judge!!


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* THAT I will never understand (but I am not much for judging.... to each their own)


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Vanessa J. Hahaha, LOL. Great review!


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Thank you, Vane :). It was feeling too daunting to do a traditional review so I decided to change it up a bit, glad you liked it!


Erica I am actually a big fan of plain yogurt. I like it a lot and find it exceptionally useful and also plainly delicious.

I was not a big fan of this book, though.

However, I am glad I read it long before I ever moved here to GR because your review would make my review (that I never wrote) even more bland than my beloved plain yogurt, which, I suppose, is a passive-aggressive way of saying that this review of yours is quite delightful.

And, guys, it's Ashwarya Rai. And if you were real Bollywood fans, you would know that Dhoom (not Dhoom II nor III) and Om Shanti Om and 3KG are the best. THE BEST, DAMMIT.


Heather ~*dread mushrooms*~ Ha, love the review! Your "reactions" were pretty hilarious.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Thank you for your passive-aggressive compliment.

And, to be fair, I do like plain yogurt I just couldn't think of a more bland food to compare this to.

Also, I knew I spelt her name wrong but I didn't feel like looking it up (because lazy, very lazy).

And I am only "sort of" a Bollywood fan... I had this Indian boss whose wife would bring them in for me and I got hooked. I will have to check out "the best" of Bollywood soon.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* Heather wrote: "Ha, love the review! Your "reactions" were pretty hilarious."

Thank you :)


Erica Let's see...foods blander than plain yogurt...

Mashed potatoes with nothing in them. Just potatoes that have been boiled and mashed.
Chicken juice (some call it broth) with nothing added. No salt, no onions, nothing. Just the water and boiled chicken.
Plain oatmeal. Actually, that goes from bland to gross. I hate oatmeal. It's so yucky.
Actually, the one ingredient in all of these foods is water.
Water is bland. It's the blandest. Unless it's sparkling water, in which case it is the fanciest.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* ... I didn't want to use "bathwater" and then water. I thought about it.

And also chicken broth.... but I went with Plain yogurt since most people find it bland (and I actually do too BUT I like that it's bland, sometimes)

Actually that is my favourite way to eat smashed potatoes.
And plain oatmeal isn't "bland" it's cruel and unusual.


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TL great review hun


Erica You mean plain oatmeal is cruel and unusual?
Because yes, it is.

Hahaha! Bathwater! That would be both bland AND tepid (because you leave it once it gets cold) and that's like adding insult to injury.

You don't use butter or milk in your mashed potatoes? No salt? Just boil the potatoes and smash?
Ok. You get my potatoes and I'll take your yogurt and karen can have the oatmeal because she likes that stuff.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* That I indeed what I meant.

Sometimes I use a little bit of butter & salt but generally not.

I don't dislike ALL oatmeal but plain oatmeal .... *bleh*

But I will take your beets because I am nice like that!


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TL Karly *The Vampire Ninja* wrote: "Thanks, TL :)"

*big hugs*


Erica OMG, you are SO nice!
The beets! Have them! Have them all!
Ugh. Beets are the worst.
And liver.
And lima beans.
And black eyed peas.
And oatmeal.

But beets? They are the absolute worst of the worst.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* *hugs TL back*

Hmmmm, I would say olives are the worst!
And mustard.
And stewed tomatoes.
Ewwww, and cabbage rolls.
But olives are the worst.


Heather ~*dread mushrooms*~ I actually love mustard! I'll dip my fries and drown my hot dogs in it. I hate ketchup.

I hate black licorice. The smell, the taste. I think that's the worst!


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* .... I also hate ketchup. I use Sriracha for my fries, actually.

And black licorice is also terrible BUT olives are worse. Olives are little orbs of hatred that can destroy ANY food.


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Vanessa J. I hate mustard and ketchup. I eat my fries without addig anything to them.

*gasps* I love olives!


Erica The only thing olives are good for are making alien fingers as a child and chucking at the heads of relatives at holiday dinners.

Well, and grossing karen out because she also knows olives are the worst.

Why are olives so gross? They shouldn't be. They should be amazing. But they're not. Why? Why can't they be good? Why do they trick people into thinking maybe they're not as yucky as they are?


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* You can have ALL THE OLIVES, Vane!! (Actually, no, you have to share them with my 5 year old freak nephew who LOVES them too)

Erica: I don't know. Every year or so I try them again, thinking they CAN NOT be as bad as I remember.... and they ARE. Salty orbs of putrid nastiness. How can they cram so much nasty flavour in such tiny things???


SUSAN   *Nevertheless,she persisted* Erica wrote: "OMG, you are SO nice!
The beets! Have them! Have them all!
Ugh. Beets are the worst.
And liver.
And lima beans.
And black eyed peas.
And oatmeal.

But beets? They are the absolute worst of the worst."


I love all of the above.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* SUSAN wrote: "Erica wrote: "OMG, you are SO nice!
The beets! Have them! Have them all!
Ugh. Beets are the worst.
And liver.
And lima beans.
And black eyed peas.
And oatmeal.

But beets? They are the absolute wor..."


I actually have no objections to any of those things either.... though, I wouldn't say "love" and "liver" in the same sentence.


Erica Karly *The Vampire Ninja* wrote: "I don't know. Every year or so I try them again, thinking they CAN NOT be as bad as I remember.... and they ARE. Salty orbs of putrid nastiness. How can they cram so much nasty flavour in such tiny things???."

I KNOW!
I do that, too. I do it with olives, I do it with beets. They say your taste buds change up every few years and so I always expect this to be the year I like gross food and yet, it never is.
Because those foods are too gross.


SUSAN   *Nevertheless,she persisted* Karly *The Vampire Ninja* wrote: "SUSAN wrote: "Erica wrote: "OMG, you are SO nice!
The beets! Have them! Have them all!
Ugh. Beets are the worst.
And liver.
And lima beans.
And black eyed peas.
And oatmeal.

But beets? They are th..."


I used to think that beets were nasty little dirt balls until I started eating cleaner . I made a raw beet salad that was really good.


Erica SUSAN!
Go to your room and take your yuck foods with you.

Hurf.

But, SUSAN, what are your worst foods? I hope I like them all! Then we can swap.


SUSAN   *Nevertheless,she persisted* Erica wrote: "SUSAN!
Go to your room and take your yuck foods with you.

Hurf.

But, SUSAN, what are your worst foods? I hope I like them all! Then we can swap."


Foods I dislike are Brussels sprouts,popcorn,potato chips,cauliflower, avocado,ice cream and sugary cereal.

I know,my tastes are freaky. :)


Erica SUSAN wrote: "Foods I dislike are Brussels sprouts,popcorn,potato chips,cauliflower, avocado,ice cream and sugary cereal."

Ha HA!
I LOVE Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, avocado, and ice cream. I even like avocado ice cream!

I'm meh on popcorn and I don't like potato chips or sugary cereal, either. Except for those waffle cut potato chips. For some bizarre reason, I like them just fine. Weird.

But still: HA! I am...partially...vindicated? I'm not sure this is vindication.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* @ Erica: it has happened to me.... I used to hate brussel sprouts but then one year I started loving them, it was weird.

@ SUSAN, I never disliked beets.... I have made a delicious beet and potato salad :)

I give CQ all my gross foods because he is a human garbage disposal.


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