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Dune by Frank Herbert
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Dune is often considered a masterpiece of 20th-century American science fiction. In part, the book owes its reputation to the film adaptation David Lynch directed in the early 1980s (although this movie was, and still is, not considered one of his best). Frank Herbert wrote a novel of epic proportions, in other words, a space opera, with its intergalactic feudal society, its decadent (if not evil) empire and its band of rebels: the book was published some ten years before the first instalment of the Star Wars series. Indeed, along with Asimov’s (overrated) Foundation stories, it was George Lucas� primary source of inspiration.

One of the most exciting aspects of Herbert’s creation is the multi-cultural world he depicts. Each house (Atreides, Harkonnen, etc.), each planet (Arrakis, Giedi Prime, Caladan...), each group (the Fremen, the Bene Gesserit, the Guild, the Emperor’s suite and the Sardaukars) has its specific flavour, its own culture, its language � the comprehensive index at the end of the book is utterly fascinating. For each of these cultures, Herbert borrowed traits from traditions (ancient or contemporary) he knew well in reality, especially from the Middle East. In particular, Paul Atreides / Muad’Dib’s story among the Fremen is redolent of the historical events around T.E. Lawrence and the Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire. And Paul’s crusade on Arrakis is told, as though it were ancient history, in the chronicles by the Princess Irulan at the start of each chapter.

Herbert describes his fictional world and characters in great detail, which contributes to the richness of his narrative, but I found these descriptions somewhat boring and, especially, the middle of the book is a bit dragging for that reason. In my view, the most impressive parts of this novel are the dialogues, where Herbert simultaneously reveals what the characters are saying and thinking. This technique lends a sense of duplicity and scheming to almost every interaction. Everyone is plotting one way or another so that the whole thing ends up being like a great Shakespearean play, with dialogues and asides, tyrants and pretenders. What confirms this impression is not only the theme of the exiled Duke (see As You Like It, King Lear, or The Tempest), but also the repeated scenes of fencing duels throughout, with feints and poisoned tips: a clear allusion to the endings of Hamlet and Macbeth, for instance.

Edit: A word about Denis Villeneuve’s new film adaptation of Herbert’s novel (part 1, 2021). Comparisons are odious and obviously wouldn’t be to David Lynch’s advantage. This is a Dune version for a new generation of fans and an epic movie on par with Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings trilogy, in the early 2000s. The settings (filmed in Scandinavia and the Middle East) are breathtaking, and the actors have so much going for them. But what strikes me the most in this new version is the sense that everything is overwhelming and sublime: the massive architecture, the crushing machines, the extreme weather conditions, the earth-shattering landscapes, the thunderous music, the tragic events, the repulsive foes. From the relenting waves of Caladan to the searing and unending skies of Arrakis, everything assumes an oceanic and staggering dimension.
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message 1: by Glenn (new)

Glenn Russell Thanks. I usually don't read sci fi but, as you note, the story is compelling and he is such a good writer.


Leonard Gaya Thanks Glenn! Well, not exactly a pager-turner, IMO, but worth some effort on the reader's part indeed.


Andreea Moldovan It is a worldwide :)


William Thank you for the review!

I read this when I was 16 years old, and it was hard to put down.


Leonard Gaya Same here, although I did put it down at some point (throughout the belly of the novel) the first time around.


Michael I can't comment on what impact the film had, but I was around in the mid-late sixties and Dune was all the rage among the science fiction set. I heard about it from friends as it was being passed around like some sort of holy text. There was quite a buzz. I read it then and have re-read countless times since. One of my favorites of the genre.


Leonard Gaya Thanks for the comment, Michael. I didn’t know that Herbert’s novel was already all the rage in the 1960s (I wasn’t around yet!), so I stand corrected regarding the influence of the movie. In any case, I agree it’s a fascinating book.


message 8: by Michael (last edited Jun 25, 2020 03:55PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Michael Leonard wrote: "Thanks for the comment, Michael. I didn’t know that Herbert’s novel was already all the rage in the 1960s (I wasn’t around yet!), so I stand corrected regarding the influence of the movie. In any c..."

At least it was the rage where I was -- I'd never heard of it until a friend asked me had I read Dune, and began to proselytize. There's a new film adaptation coming out in two parts, first part to hit theaters in December of this year by a director, Denis Villeneuve, who most recently did 'Arrival' and 'Blade Runner 2049.'


Michael Perkins Leornard: you might find it interesting to see the extent to which George Lucas "borrowed" from Dune for the first three Star Wars films.




Leonard Gaya Michael wrote: "There's a new film adaptation coming out in two parts, first part to hit theaters in December of this year by a director, Denis Villeneuve, who most recently did 'Arrival' and 'Blade Runner 2049"

Yes! I am very much looking forward to the upcoming Villeneuve movie with Chalamet as Paul. I would also have loved to see Jodorowsky’s version, back in the 1970s, had he managed to finish it... I heard there was a TV series adaptation as well, released some years ago, but I never got to watch it.


message 11: by Mark (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mark Two mini series actualy and they were Bert decent and worth tour time especially the second series


Leonard Gaya Michael wrote: "Leornard: you might find it interesting to see the extent to which George Lucas "borrowed" from Dune for the first three Star Wars films."

Thanks so much, Michael! This is a brilliant and pretty thorough article on the books and experiences that influenced Herbert's novel (which, in turn, influenced George Lucas and many others).


Leonard Gaya Mark wrote: "Two mini series actualy and they were Bert decent and worth tour time especially the second series"

Indeed! I might want to read the other books in the series before watching the miniseries adaptation of Children of Dune.


Maria Trying to write my book  Park I wholeheartedly agree about the comparison between Lynch's movie and the new one, although there will always be a special place in my heart for the original movie. Nice review.


message 15: by Leonard (last edited Nov 08, 2021 09:34AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leonard Gaya Agreed! I watched Lynch's film when I was a child, and its shortcomings weren't apparent to me then: that film prompted me to read Herbert's novel the first time around when I was about 13 or 14. Funny, though: Villeneuve's film makes subtle references to its predecessor, especially in some of the musical themes.

Before that even, Alejandro Jodorowsky had a project in the 1970s to make an ambitious film adaptation of Dune. This never saw the light of day, but the idea branched out into what later became The Incal, one of the best SF comics of all time, in my opinion.


Alexis I actually wasn't aware of The Incal until the announcement of the latest movie and suddenly everyone was talking about the previous attempts to adapt Dune and, as a tangent, the link between Jodorowsky and this SF comic I'd never heard of before.


Laura Yes I think that reference to Shakespeare is very astute - I remember clearly the sense of courts and hierarchies and jostling for position and duels etc And as you say Duke this and Duke that - but of course the massively inventive physical conditions - they wore suits that recycled their bodily wastes so that not once drop of water was wasted - how do they convey that in the films??


Michael Perkins Saw the film. Solid. It does help to have read the book. And happy to report that part two, which will complete the story of the first book, has been approved for production.


Leonard Gaya Alexis wrote: "I actually wasn't aware of The Incal until the announcement of the latest movie and suddenly everyone was talking about the previous attempts to adapt Dune and, as a tangent, the link between Jodor..."

The Incal series of graphic novels was top-rated in France back in the 80s and 90s and promoted ²Ñ²Õ²ú¾±³Ü²õâ€� career as an artist (he also worked on Alien if I recall correctly). Jodorowsky is something of a nutcase, but that worked well in this series â€� not so much in other works of his, tbh. There is a documentary (by Frank Pavich) on Jodorowsky’s Dune that you might find interesting.


message 20: by Leonard (last edited Nov 08, 2021 03:53PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leonard Gaya Laura Anne wrote: "Yes I think that reference to Shakespeare is very astute - I remember clearly the sense of courts and hierarchies and jostling for position and duels etc And as you say Duke this and Duke that - bu..."

You are right; the physical conditions are spectacular (this aspect doesn’t owe anything to Shakespeare!). The Fremen stillsuits in Villeneuve’s film resemble those in the older Lynch movie, nothing original in that regard: it’s a crossbreed between an armour, a wetsuit and a tight puffer jacket � nice looking, but probably miserable to put on.


Leonard Gaya Michael wrote: "Saw the film. Solid. It does help to have read the book. And happy to report that part two, which will complete the story of the first book, has been approved for production."

Absolutely, the movie only hints at certain things that the novel develops in full. For instance, the presence of mentats in the court of the Atreides and Harkonnens (as a result of a “Butlerian Jihad�, etc.) isn’t explained in the film: it’s just a couple of guys wearing odd lipstick.

Good to know there will be a part 2. I guess it was the plan all along, though, wasn’t it?


Michael I really can't see how this is a masterpiece it was a slog reading some parts the best part of the book was chapter 47 and 48 and just as it seemed to get interesting it ended .
Not sure if I want to read the rest of the series .


Leonard Gaya Well, you do you, mate. :)


message 24: by William (last edited Jun 23, 2022 06:44AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

William But what strikes me the most in this new movie version is the sense that everything is overwhelming and sublime - Leonard

I still love the David Lynch movie, saw a fan-editted version on tv a few weeks ago, truly wonderful in it's own way.

I saw the new Denis Villeneuve movie in the cinema THREE times (five times for his astounding BR 2049). Denis is a genius, for sure, who loves Dune totally. It shows in every scene, every frame, every line in the movie. Wow.

The entire movie was a masterpiece, and yes some things had to be cut from the book original, but Denis' version is astonishing. 10/10 stars.

Can't wait for Part 2.


Leonard Gaya Ha, me too!


Michael Maybe I need to read it again .
Do the other books continue on with the same pace as the ending of the first one ?


Leonard Gaya I haven’t read the rest of this series (I rarely read sequels in general). I’m sure you’ll find other folks who have around here, though.


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