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Freedom by Jonathan Franzen
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Okay, so earlier this summer I was waiting to see The National play Prospect Park ("Of course you were, Jessica...." -- but bear with me, that's my point), and I sent a text message to the guy who'd given me the tickets, thanking him again and observing that "White People don't LIKE seeing The National play Prospect Park; White People LOVE seeing The National play Prospect Park." This was a reference, of course, to the oft-quoted blog that holds a very high place on the seemingly endless list it identified, of Stuff White People Like. Now, I've always felt a bit annoyed and repelled by the lazy shorthand of race there, then ashamed when I use it myself -- since really the demographic group in question is, like the crowd at the bandshell, not exclusively white, and since there are millions of white people whom it does not describe -- but the concept's too pricelessly apt to resist frequent citing.

The brilliance of Stuff White People Like is in its identification of a socioeconomic group which is, yes, largely white, but more to the point Obama-voting, liberal arts degree-holding, farmers market-shopping, NPR-listening, irony-appreciating, New Yorker-subscribing, boutique cable show-watching, indie-rock-listening, Clash tee-shirt-wearing baby-rearing, freelance-or-nonprofit-job-working, and neighborhood-gentrifying, but also profoundly self-loathing in a weird and specific way that is a bit hard either to detach from or reconcile with its incredible self-absorption and uncomfortable, only partly ironic smugness and conviction that the stuff it likes is good.

Jonathan Franzen should be on the list of Stuff White People Like, but he should also be on the (perhaps equivalent) list of Stuff White People Don't Want To Like But Do, which reflects the ambivalent discomfort of this particular group. We don't want to like Franzen, because we're supposed to, and that contrarian streak is built into our bones. And to add to all that, Franzen writes about -- and nails -- our very essence. I can't think of another book that so perfectly sums up and explores the attributes and complexities of this particular set.

Okay, enough with all this generalization: did this white person like Freedom? Well okay, the first 190 pages was the most fun I've had in years. And I did really like Freedom, and wish I could give it three-point-five stars. My criterion for the fourth star is that I itch to read it, and I itched like crazy while reading it. Yeah, this book was good.

A confession: my behavior while traveling in public, and especially on mass transit, can best be described as sociopathic. If you live in this city -- and perhaps even more likely if you don't, but have visited -- there's a fair chance I've harmed you physically while I ran for the train. Sorry, but you probably don't walk fast enough, and I was trying to get to the platform. The TRAIN might be coming, and I GOT to be on it!!! Understand that I am in a great hurry to arrive in short order wherever I'm going, which is somewhat inexplicable since once I'm there I don't have much to do, and will probably just sit there, dicking around on the Internet; but while I'm en route, I'm a terror, and slow old ladies be damned! I'll hit them with my umbrella! I'll give them all flat tires! But while reading Freedom the number of citywide subway station stair assaults must have dropped; I was in no particular hurry to get where I was headed, and often took the local train or waited for the next less-crowded car. I took crosstown buses where normally I motor on foot, and rode elevators instead of my usual mad running up the stairs. Over the past week, I honestly looked forward to my commute, and to deadtime at work waiting in a courtroom, because these moments gave me another opportunity to read. This is one of two of the most important tests of a book: it was so entertaining and so fabulously engaging that I wanted to pick it up at actually all times.

The other test, though, Freedom didn't really pass. I did vastly enjoy a lot of this book, but it didn't give me the more rare and elusive experience that's the other main thing that I want when I'm reading. I didn't ultimately feel moved, not emotionally or ontologically. I didn't see the world, or my life, in an earthshaking new way (I did start wondering briefly about how my parents might've fucked me up, but not in a fruitful way, so I don't think that counts). And while I did definitely like it, and got involved with the characters, by the end I felt disappointed, and also pretty bored.

Sorry, this is already pretty long and not much of a review. Let's see, Freedom is a novel about a family, the Berglunds, and if you want to read a good review of it, I defer to Mike Reynolds. I myself was instantly hooked from the beginning chapter, which is a description of the family from the perspective of the community where they live, and I loved -- loved -- the next portion, an "autobiography" (wonderfully titled "Mistakes Were Made") by the wife, Patty Berglund, which takes us up to page 187. But I'm afraid that for me, things did peak there, and I'm a bit baffled by all the buzz about "greatest living American writer" and "genius." I did like this book. But it wasn't that great.

So but like, I really don't follow these things, but full disclosure, I couldn't free myself while reading from thoughts about the Author, and I really don't think that this was just me. Other reviews on this site have noted that the characters are all a lot the same, but I don't really see that as a problem, and that's kind of what I liked about it. For me, the only character that never really came off was daughter Jessica, which I maybe took too personally, as that is my name (I did like the part where Jessica agonizes over the impossibility of finding a decent New York guy to go out with, though I liked it more in the abstract, and wanted its execution to be more amazing). I felt a bit shortchanged when it came to the son's relationship with his lady; there were all the seeds to be sown, and then we just stopped hearing about them. But my point partly, with the Franzenness, was that the two parents did feel very real, maybe the more so for seeming like two only slightly varying manifestations of the same certain guy.

Here's my beef about Jonathan Franzen, and I know I should do some more google research before I start on with this, but I'm feeling kind of lazy, and I doubt anyone's still reading this.... See, I associate him, like a lot of people, with that Oprah thing in the nineties, when he withdrew from being in the Oprah bookclub, got lots of shit, and as a result (maybe) became wildly popular. Franzen's Wikipedia article has a quotation from him at that time, in which he explains that he didn't want people thinking The Corrections was a women's book (by "people" I mean men, of course) and therefore not reading it. Now again, I'm only dimly aware of what's been going on recently, but I've heard lady authors are bitching (like we do) about all the press and blowjobs Franzen's been getting, and suggesting that this is really all because of that Y-chromosome he has. And honestly, I was distracted while reading this by my conviction that it's true.

I don't want to plagiarize, though I can't remember who said it, but some upset woman I read at some point was complaining about the "chick lit" ghetto and said that Franzen writes what are essentially domestic novels, and that if he weren't a man they'd be considered women's fiction. And that, friend, is true. It is painfully true. Especially the better, earlier, female-perspectived portion of this novel is all about relationships and a marriage and family, and all those lady things. And if Jonathan were Jessica Franzen, at least half the readers he has (except Mike Reynolds, boy wonder, who actually reads stuff by chicks!) would never have touched it and it would've had some dumb pinky cover, but because he's a man, it's a Serious Novel. Yeah, actually I do really think that. Without all the male masturbation and the obviously male author, this could've so easily been written off as chick lit. And it makes me -- perhaps unjustly -- hate Jonathan Franzen to think that he might not recognize that. It might not seem this way, but I'm not one of those people who carries on endlessly about WhiteMalePrivilege, but I actually do want to with him. Because he gets the kind of attention that similarly talented women wouldn't get, while writing about topics that aren't considered Serious when women write about them.

Okay, I'm sorry, I'm rambling again (really bad day at work, srsly, sorry). This book, hm, well what more can I say? Franzen is a terrific writer, and I loved the addictive easiness of his prose style, which can unfortunately come back and bite an author because it makes any glitch seem egregious. I hated the partial sentences that seemed to creep in more as the novel progressed, though I might not have noticed them if his writing weren't otherwise so perfect. He writes sentences as readable as the most digestible best-seller, but good. The problem is that being that good makes people angrier if you let them down. (Especially if those people are me, and apply ridiculously high standards to anything they have great hopes for, while giving tons of social work sympathy to the obvious losers. You guys should hope that I never have children! I'll criticize and neglect the good kid, while coddling the fuck-up.)

Okay, I did feel let down by this book; again, I really liked it. But by the end I felt bored by the characters, especially by depression (which is deadly boring; note my biases, as a reader who was unable to make it all the way through David Foster Wallace's short story "The Depressed Person" despite thinking it brilliant), and I really thought the plot and characters ran off the road at later points into melodrama. At a certain early juncture I felt sure our Berglunds' marriage would survive, though I wasn't sure I cared that it did, or what that had to do with me.

But don't get me wrong! This was a very fine novel. Frazen's ability to create characters is wonderful, and the whole thing's pretty zeitgeisty, which is nice in this dying form. No, sorry Jonathan: it's not War and Peace. But in its mostly successful efforts to link the narcissistic and eerily familiar concerns of individuals to the larger events and forces of our time, it is a lot closer than anything recent I can think of.

Best of all, now I have something to fall back on, the next time I'm at a Brooklyn party and the White People are all talking about True Blood. "Haven't seen it," I'll admit, as I swig a microbrew. "But have you read Freedom?"

And we'll take it from there.
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September 11, 2010 – Started Reading
September 11, 2010 – Shelved
September 15, 2010 –
page 375
66.73% "One of the characters in this book just told another of the characters, "You were like a bad drug I couldn't stop craving." Yes! That happened. Ugghhhhh....."
September 16, 2010 – Shelved as: chicklits
September 16, 2010 – Shelved as: crazy-ladies
September 16, 2010 – Shelved as: groups-of-people
September 16, 2010 – Shelved as: love-and-other-indoor-sports
September 16, 2010 – Finished Reading
May 11, 2011 – Shelved as: dicklits

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Bram Definitely with you on the 19th-century crack. No complaints thus far, although I can't say anything feels super-impressive (at this point, 160-odd pages in) either.


Jessica Really? Not impressed? So far, I am *super* impressed. I'm also super conflicted, since based on that whole Oprah debacle from years ago I think Franzen is an odious, misogynist fuckhead who I'd like to kick in his stupid face. But he's also a great writer, and so far I love (LOVE) this book.


message 3: by Bram (last edited Sep 12, 2010 09:06PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Bram Yeah, the Oprah thing was a real turn-off, and I also hated the way he came off in his essay about William Gaddis (which is really just a convoluted rant about 'difficult' books and why people should prefer his more approachable stuff). It seems like he's been spending his post-Oprah time trying to sell himself as the anti-elitist super-populist, which is pretty weird.

I actually really like the book so far too--I have a hard time putting it down, even though pleasure reading time is short at the moment. I think I just haven't gotten to the real meat of the book yet...I have no idea where Franzen's going with this or why (which is probably a good thing). But it's certainly gripping--he's a great storyteller and his prose style feels completely effortless.


message 4: by Jamie (new)

Jamie You may be thinking of Meghan O'Rourke, re: the upset woman talking about Franzen v. "chick lit." It was an article on Slate--



The funny thing is, I tend to avoid most novels-particularly contemporary ones-that are by very "serious," super pomo MANLY-BUT-NOT-TOO-MANLY dude writers, rather than the other way around. But I feel almost compelled to try Franzen out simply because of all the gender-related hoopla/debate surrounding this novel. Interesting review. :)


message 5: by David (last edited Sep 16, 2010 04:47PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

David And now Oprah has picked him again! If you get a chance, check out his interview with Terry Gross on "Fresh Air" - it might counteract some of the negative impressions that you have of Franzen. I actually think he is a lot less arrogant than people make him out to be (though he is well able to shoot himself in the foot and add fuel to the fire).

Based on the text of your review I was expecting you to give it four stars.

Link to the Terry Gross interview:


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David wrote: "And now Oprah has picked him again! If you get a chance, check out his interview with Terry Gross on "Fresh Air" - it might counteract some of the negative impressions that you have of Franzen. I a..."

I was going to announce that! You JUST beat me to the punch.


Jessica Yeah, Franzen's midwestern "gosh who me?" thing is more endearing than I'd expected him to be. Lately I've been thinking more about what it means when I trash on an author's work that I basically enjoyed, I mean, I do appreciate that they bled and sweated for it and that it is a part of their soul, I"m just a very unpleasable critic and have a lot of issues of my own... But: AAghh, "biweekly"! Did he and DFW talk on the phone every two weeks (okay) or TWICE A WEEK (WEIRD!)? We must have a national referendum on this important issue and settle it permanently.

Yeah, maybe I should've given it four stars. But you know, the harder they come.... I really wanted to claw my eyes out during the last third, which felt like such a betrayal after I'd loved it so much, and I just couldn't. I hate the star ratings.

No, interesting to see and thanks for the link, but wasn't that review where I read the thing about Franzen writing domestic novels, it was something that came out way before this book. I wish I could remember what it was! Funny that she mentioned a "Jennifer Franzen." I guess there are a limited number of ideas in the world....

On the one hand I feel bad letting all this business affect my reception of his work, but in another way I think it makes a certain sense. The gender stuff in this book is a bit weird and confusing. Like, Patty Berglund was, to me, the most interesting character in the novel, and her whole journey was kind of this 70s-style, second-wave feminism, finding-herself voyage, but with this kind of bizarre, arguably regressive twist. None of the female characters in this book, except Patty's mom, and to some degree I guess the underdeveloped Jessica, had actual careers. The most career-oriented one was a man's assistant, and look how that whole thing went. I'm not passing a judgment on any of this, just sort of idly wondering what Franzen meant by it, and maybe sort of apologizing for myself by noting that the book did seem to making some statements about women and their role in contemporary society, though I'm not sure at all what those statements were.


Eldonfoil TH*E Whatever Champion Ha!!!! This review might be the first on goodreads I've ever read twice! I livey-lovey it! Brilliant.

And it wasn't at all what I was expecting based on your comments under Eddie's thread..........


Jessica It's funny how everyone either has to hate or defend Franzen, super passionately. I've been reading all these reviews all evening (again, long day at work, gotta do something to cool off), and he's really a Thing. I thought it was so annoying in this novel with the Richard Katz character, like, Oh, Jonathan Franzen thinks he's a rock star, ooh, gimme a break But it's kind of like that, people love to hate this guy. Funny.


message 10: by Meredith (new)

Meredith Holley The problem is that being that good makes people angrier if you let them down. (Especially if those people are me, and apply ridiculously high standards to anything they have great hopes for, while giving tons of social work sympathy to the obvious losers. You guys should hope that I never have children! I'll criticize and neglect the good kid, while coddling the fuck-up.)

I totally do this too. It's super unfair. I think you should know that at first, I wrote "funfair," and I think it's that, too. BUT THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER!

On a different note, I've been having all these evil interviews lately, and one really nice interviewer at a firm that I really like asked me if I had read this book, and I totally kicked myself for not having read it yet. But now I'll always associate it with an interview, and so never read it. Kind of like the Oprah's book club problem, maybe.


message 11: by Eric_W (new)

Eric_W Great review. Loved it. Your comment re chick lit and Franzen struck home a little hard since that's sort of been my external impression of Franzen (not that I've ever read any of his stuff, but precisely for that reason.) Ironically, all the press and hoopla surrounding Franzen and Oprah remind me of the buzz surrounding American Psycho. By that I mean the buzz defined the author and the book more than the books themselves. And that's a shame.


Laurie "Stuff White People Don't Want To Like But Do" -- brilliant. Loved your review. Agree that the book peaked at "Mistakes Were Made" but I kept reading anyway. I think JF seeks to elicit the very response you had. "I hate these people. These people are kind of like me. Ergo, I hate myself. But I don't want to hate myself. . ." I agree with the reader who recommended listenging to JF interviewed on NPR. Not entirely what you expect.


message 13: by Brit (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brit I don't really think that Franzen's gender is the only thing keeping this book from being classified as "chick lit." Obviously critics on the whole are biased in favor of men, but they're not idiots, and neither are they parading around fighting for their gender. Nobody calls Marilynne Robinson chick lit, and yeah, she's a woman. I think Virginia Woolf might possibly agree with me here - Franzen has had plenty more opportunities than women to be successful, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it.

Also, the comparison to DFW's "The Depressed Person" isn't really all that appropriate, is it?


message 14: by Trish (last edited Oct 04, 2010 11:17AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Trish Thought your review was, um, long...but interesting. I especially liked that bit: "said that Franzen writes what are essentially domestic novels, and that if he weren't a man they'd be considered women's fiction. And that, friend, is true...." Lots to think about there. I don't, however, exactly agree. Am going to have to think about why.

However, the whole discussion made me think of another novel that had the scope and heft and skill of Franzen's, however, but none of the attention. It was written years ago by a woman, in the voice of a woman, and should not be considered a woman's novel, though probably only women would read it through. I thought it spectacular: Cheat and Charmer. Lousy title, but.


Jessica My point in saying that this would be considered chicklit if Franzen were a woman is not that it's a bad book, but that excellent books by women are often dismissed as chicklit. I appreciate your point about Robinson, but I do think she's an exception. My years on this site have really confirmed my belief that most men are less likely to read books by women, and Franzen's response to the Oprah thing (admittedly, awhile ago) was thoughtless and uncritical of this issue. I'm not at all saying he doesn't deserve his success either, just sharing my biases as a reader.

I don't see what's inappropriate in comparing my boredom while reading about these depressed characters to my inability to get through "The Depressed Person." My point, again, was that I have an individual bias against literature about depression, and I'm suggesting that this personal taste may have been a factor in my enjoying both these works less than I felt I might have otherwise, since I could tell they were good.


Pattie O'Donnell Jennifer Weiner. It's Jennifer Weiner who is most vocal about the "over-coverage" of JF. I agree with her, and with your take on the issue, completely (although I don't read Weiner because I have a firm policy of discarding any book at the first mention of a character's high-end shoe brand and legitimately dismissing it as "chick-lit"). Brilliant authors like Lee Smith or Kaye Gibbons remain unread by men, and yet Phillip Roth and Cormac McCarthy that are celebrated as being "universal" even though their characters' motivations are almost unintelligible to women.

Dead-on great review of "Freedom", dead-on about the compulsive readability, the brilliant first 190 pages and "stuff white people don't want to like but do."


message 17: by Bram (new) - rated it 3 stars

Bram Mmm, Lee Smith. That's a name I haven't heard in awhile. I need to read more of her books.


Jonfaith Whoa. I normally can't be troubled for a response, this merited, no, demanded an exception. Front of the queue!


Marsha FYI Jessica, this non white person loved Freedom. If you are genuinely repelled by the lazy shorthand of race, then how about you don't perpetuate it?


Jessica Sorry, Marsha. I don't think I suggested anywhere that this book would only appeal to white people, though I definitely am perpetuating the Stuff White People Like's lazy shorthand... because I'm lazy? Note that I am BOTH repelled AND enthralled by the Stuff White People Like concept, I think because it's yes (a) kind of offensive and even maybe racist but also (b) more apt and useful as a cultural reference to this specific (no, NOT all-white) post-yuppie/aging hipster demographic group than anything else I've come across yet, which is why I can't help citing it sometimes, especially when I'm in Park Slope or thinking about Jonathan Fanzen. Obviously it's problematic, and if someone knows a better lazy shorthand I'd love to hear it.


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Amy Wilder *sigh* I am re-reading all the reviews after my mother made a scene at the dinner table Christmas Eve ranting and raving about how much she hated this book and my entire family had to gang up to silence her since someone had given someone else the book for Christmas and didn't want it trashed before they even opened it.
In the wake of that, I was trying to balance the negative review with some others but I'm not sure I can give this book an unbiased read. From the title to the sheer number of reviews to all the media buzz, it's like a hype machine. I think I have to not read it for the same reason I did not read Lorrie Moore's Gate at the Stairs. I just felt like I couldn't just read it - I would be reading myself reading it and reading the author writing it and reading the world reviewing it as I read it and that prevents the just-slipping-between-the-covers-and-forgetting-you-exist-feeling that is why I read. Maybe someday someone will rename and rebind this book and slip it to me telling me it's an obscure book by a writer who never was able to have it published and I'll read it then without bias.


message 23: by Michael (new)

Michael Cogdill Amy, you wisely chose a pair of magic words in your post there -- "hype machine." Freedom and Franzen have formed part of the language of big publishing's final cries for help!!

Your frustration is my frustration with that machine that presumes to act as curator of all that's worthy. I, frankly, worship the quicksand it walks on right now. Editors, your days of trolling for celebrities -- and hyping one or two titles -- instead of actually editing prose are soon to end. Amazon and the e-book orbit is changing everything, thank God!

In my blog post, I embrace Franzen as a worthy writer, though I stop far short of the symphonic praise the book business has let fly all over him! Cheers to reading Freedom according to a game of musical chairs: Once the shrill music of the hype ends, then sit, read, and decide for yourself!

Comments?

Blessings to all, even the hype masters who've made book publishing something akin to the Real Housewives of Atanta.
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Harlan Lewin Amy, I'm half through Freedom and it's like what you said: I'm reading myself reading it and reading the author writing it. I also get the impression (wrong, I'm sure) that this kind of a book comes out of first considering the potential audience, what they're interested in and what will excite them. I don't dislike sex in a book but so much recent book sex seems merely prurient to me. In fact this whole book seems to be oriented toward people who identify with the frustrated relations, disappointments and rehashing of "mistakes" that so fills it. It's not self help, it's more like self-destruction genre.


Kerfe Guess I'm not White enough to ever get the book, but a great, thoughtful, review.


message 26: by Dawn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dawn Stults Great review and I especially agree with your conflicted characterization of your tribe in the second and third paragraph. Don't agree with you about the chick lit observation though. The tone was too sneering towards Patty and women in general to stomach coming from another woman. If this novel had been written by a woman it woulda been panned as heresy.


Sarita great review. And "Stuff White People Like" was the first thing I thought as I was reading it. And yet... delicious. Like a perfect vanilla cone.


message 28: by Ami (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ami You know, I normally would defend his work to people who've only heard about the publicity surrounding Oprah and based their like/dislike of Franzen on that incident, but this is perhaps the first time I've read a review that I could plausibly agree with. I'm only halfway through the book, but you make an excellent point: If it were Jessica Franzen writing this book, we would have dismissed it as "chicklit" and it would never have stood a chance. I'm not sure how to link to your review, but I think I'd like to include that in my own, because it's an important point.


message 29: by Lindsey (new)

Lindsey I've been away from Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ for quite a while and also haven't yet read Freedom--although I did LOVE The Corrections--but it's been sitting on my bookshelf for a while and I'm kind of curious, hence I found your review. I don't know ... it just seems so WASP-y. That's why I haven't read it yet, I guess. Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your review. You're a terrific writer!


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