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Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche
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Verily have I overshot myself in my vanity into thinking that I was ready to attempt this book. Humbled am I now.

I probably got less than one-third of what Nietzsche was fulminating on. Maybe in another two reading or so... maybe with a different translation... ?

Can anyone who has read this help me out? Is the second half of the book just plain abstruse or was it just me?
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Reading Progress

February 4, 2011 – Shelved
November 30, 2011 – Started Reading
November 30, 2011 –
page 15
4.59% "What is the greatest thing you can experience? It is the hour of great contempt. The hour in which even your happiness becomes loathsome to you, and so also your reason and virtue."
December 1, 2011 –
page 60
18.35%
December 2, 2011 –
page 132
40.37%
December 9, 2011 –
page 211
64.53%
December 10, 2011 –
page 280
85.63%
December 11, 2011 –
100.0% "Verily have I overshot myself in my vanity into thinking that I was ready to attempt this book. Humbled am I now. I probably got less than one-third of what Nietzsche was fulminating on. Maybe in another two reading or so... maybe with a different translation... ? Can anyone who has read this help me out? Is the second half of the book just plain abstruse or was it just me?"
December 11, 2011 – Finished Reading
December 22, 2013 – Shelved as: philosophy
December 22, 2013 – Shelved as: direct-phil
December 22, 2013 – Shelved as: r-r-rs

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message 1: by Ashwini (new) - added it

Ashwini Sharma HAHAHa, since your review seems like a challenge, please do forward the book to me. collaborative understanding can surely be better for both ?


Riku Sayuj Ashwini wrote: "HAHAHa, since your review seems like a challenge, please do forward the book to me. collaborative understanding can surely be better for both ?"

it was not a challenge :) It was just me being dejected at the thought that I will soon be reading it again. This is an out-of-copyright work man... you can get it at archive.org - a gold mine of a website that.


message 3: by Ashwini (new) - added it

Ashwini Sharma i interpreted it as a challenge, for me. B-)

anyway, will get back to you soon on this :P


s.penkevich I loved this one as well, at least what i understood of it. I agree with the 'abstuse' second half though. I should re-read this and we shall discuss!


Riku Sayuj s.penkevich wrote: "I loved this one as well, at least what i understood of it. I agree with the 'abstuse' second half though. I should re-read this and we shall discuss!"

thank ol' zars!


Riku Sayuj Bruce wrote: "First, I think it is a mistake to look for some sort of "overall" Nietzschean philosophy. He was much more accustomed to write with aphorisms that sometimes seem disconnected. Nor does he attempt..."

So how to approach him then? Where do I start?


Riku Sayuj Bruce wrote: "I'd begin with A Nietzsche Reader or The Portable Nietzsche."

Thanks. I'll go shopping for them and see...


Michaela This review echoes exactly what is in my own head. 2/3 through I had to check I was still reading the same book


message 9: by Alan (new)

Alan Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)


message 10: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Alan wrote: "Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)"

I have read it and it was wonderful. Much more comprehensible :)


message 11: by Alan (new)

Alan Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)"

I have read it and it was wonderful. Much more comprehensible :)"


Glad to hear it. (My memories from forty years are not terribly off.)


message 12: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Alan wrote: "Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)"

I have read it and it was wonderful. Much more comprehensible :)"

..."


the author hated it to high hell later on in life though :)


message 13: by Alan (new)

Alan Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)"

I have read it and it was wonderful. Much more compreh..."


Aha! Here would be an interesting list: Great Books their Authors have Rejected. My favorite is Mortviye Dushi, Dead Souls by Gogol. Upon conversion to Christianity, he rejected it: His next book is a boring spiritual journal. I mistakenly bought it--in Russian--since the store near Harvard didn't have Mortviye Dushi. I think it's one of the ten best novels ever written, maybe one of the five best. For one thing, hilarious--one of my standards for great lit. (Chaucer, Shakespeare, Moliere, Plautus, Ovid, Sterne, Byron, Austen,Dickens, Joyce--a bit--Bellow: all very funny in part.)


message 14: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Alan wrote: "Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Riku wrote: "Alan wrote: "Perhaps try his Birth of Tragedy, a better book, I think. (But I read both at least forty years ago!)"

I have read it and it was wonderful. Much..."


brilliant list indeed. I would add kafka too...


message 15: by Kane (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kane yes, i feel the same way. i love the ideas here and there in the book, but i am sludging through. it is as if every sentence is a riddle in shakespearian dialog.


message 16: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Kane wrote: "yes, i feel the same way. i love the ideas here and there in the book, but i am sludging through. it is as if every sentence is a riddle in shakespearian dialog."

Hope you have better luck, overall!


message 17: by [deleted user] (new)

It's almost impossible to read most of this book without background knowledge on his concepts and his life. Eternal Recurrence, affirmation, criticism of ongoing nihilism etc.


message 18: by Omar (new) - rated it 4 stars

Omar El sherbiny read another books for them and do research .. I think u'll go good


message 19: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Omar wrote: "read another books for them and do research .. I think u'll go good"

Dp wrote: "It's almost impossible to read most of this book without background knowledge on his concepts and his life. Eternal Recurrence, affirmation, criticism of ongoing nihilism etc."

Thanks, guys. Will try to come back better armored.


Abram I don't think the writer tries to give answers. I think he is having a conversation with himself, and it is brilliant to read.


message 21: by Riku (new) - rated it 4 stars

Riku Sayuj Abe wrote: "I don't think the writer tries to give answers. I think he is having a conversation with himself, and it is brilliant to read."

Hmm... interesting take.


message 22: by Ayla (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ayla No its not only you , He supposedly wrote this in 10 days and may have been suffering from maniac depression.


message 23: by Dario (new) - added it

Dario @Ayla that's completely incorrect; he wrote the book over like 3 years lol


message 24: by Ayla (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ayla This is probably where I got the ten days. Either the audiobook or Wikipedia.
From Wikipedia
Nietzsche commented in Ecce Homo that for the completion of each part: "Ten days sufficed; in no case, neither for the first nor for the third and last, did I require more" (trans. Kaufmann)


message 25: by Ayla (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ayla Also

Says he did the first part in 10 days and the whole of his work in 2 years.


message 27: by Priyank (new) - added it

Priyank Kumawat @Riku: there is a commentary on this book by Osho. You can find it on OshoWorld.com. Go to discourses>English>discourses starting from z. I have not gone through them but have gone through his other discourses. I think it will be great to read and hear the discourse together.


James B It's just supa hot fire and you have to approach it that waye


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