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The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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it was amazing
bookshelves: russian-stuff, philosophy-stuff, favorites, realism-stuff

[Update 7/08/2013: I guess this review deserves a preface. Before you read it keep in mind that this book nearly made me stop reading novels because I felt that after this nothing will ever reach up to its level. Now I know there are longer novels and maybe better manageable novels, and this book isn't my all-time favorite ([book:Invisible Man|16981]) but this book is just special. After about two months I started picking up comic books and graphic novels to get me back in the habit of reading and I have by this time "recovered" but I will always be appreciated]

"And even if only one good memory remains with us in our hearts, that alone may serve some day for our salvation."

This will no doubt be the most difficult thing I have ever reviewed. There is so much that one gets when reading a Russian novel-or any good novel to be honest. But in this massive work you get it all. Lots of characters pop up, everyone has long names and are known by different names depending on who is speaking, when a person does anything they talk or "think" about it at great length, and hate him or love him almost all characters are required to talk about God. But then we have the things that Dostoevsky is known for. The narrator is not objective, not by a long shot; every character is played in the most exaggerated fashion possible-NO EXCEPTIONS! Children are often shown having to go through some [insert Russian word for overly harsh ordeal or shit]. At least 3 out of 10 characters have to die or be driven near death or total insanity.

That being said this book rises above the competition because its author took every fiber of being in him to make this. I don't think it is a surprise that he died after this novel was published. This book puts so much of not just humanity or God but existence itself on trial and (view spoiler).

The good thing about a book this long is that FD has plenty of time to give us the complete essence of every character and he takes advantage. I was also amazed quite quick at how much I felt so involved in every minute and how I felt I was experiencing every thing right along with the characters, which is something that I don't experience with even the best writers often. My two favorite characters were the Elder Father Zosima and of course the main protagonist (according to Dostoevsky) Alexi Fyodorvich Karamazov. But I really took to Father Zosima, if there was ever someone who so totally destroyed the notion and essence of the infamous "Grand Inquisitor" it was him and he demonstrated it in how he lived not in any fancy speech.
One of the complaints I had about Crime and Punishment was that it took me almost 2/3 of the book to really become involved-or should I say to actually feel like I knew and cared what happened to the characters. I warmed up quicker to Sonya than I did Raskolnikov(sp?) but overall I felt that nearly 5/8 (or 2/3) of that novel was exposition with some plot mixed in until the last 1/3 when the plot went into the incredible conclusion.
That was not the case here. From the beginning I was captivated by how well the action and exposition blended in the novel. This book went big as much as possible and it payed off. Seldom was I bored with the book (despite how long it took me to finish it) and I always looked forward to reading it. I do wonder what I would have thought had I not stopped in April 2011 to read C&P, not resuming this novel until July 2012. In any case I have always felt very rewarded when reading Dostoevsky.

The blending of multiple plots is very well done and it helped make the town in the story really seem like a town. Just because one thing happened it doesn't stop every other drama in town from also happening. And if you have lived in a small town then this setting is very recognizable and understandable to you in the way of the familiarity of the armada of characters' knowing of each other.

This book also surprised me in its early use of tropes that became very common in the modernist movement of 20th century, such as stream-of-consciousness, the time jumping without any indication, and some other minor innovations.

I was so struck at how honestly the story was handled amidst some justifiable temptation to cop out at many moments. This story was going to be truthful and fair and it explored so many depths of the human psyche that one has to wonder how FD was not given an honorary psychology degree by every university in Russia.

I no-doubt understand why so many different people, from many walks of life and beliefs, have hailed this as their favorite novel it stands as one of the greatest works of literature ever. I am only scratching the surface and may find that I have to add more to this review but right now I don't know what else can be said. I have no idea who I would recommend this book to but, I will say that when ever you are ready to read it, don't look back just give yourself to it and really try to understand where Fyodor Dostoevsky is going and what he is saying to you. This is not a "first" read but a best read.

"And eternally so, all our lives hand in hand! Hurrah for Karamazov!"
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Fyodor Dostoevsky
“I love mankind, he said, "but I find to my amazement that the more I love mankind as a whole, the less I love man in particular.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Love all God’s creation, both the whole and every grain of sand. Love every leaf, every ray of light. Love the animals, love the plants, love each separate thing. If thou love each thing thou wilt perceive the mystery of God in all; and when once thou perceive this, thou wilt thenceforward grow every day to a fuller understanding of it: until thou come at last to love the whole world with a love that will then be all-embracing and universal.”
Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov
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Fyodor Dostoevsky
“The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Believe to the end, even if all men went astray and you were left the only one faithful; bring your offering even then and praise God in your loneliness.”
Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Love is such a priceless treasure that you can buy the whole world with it, and redeem not only your own but other people's sins. Go, and do not be afraid.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“This is my last message to you: in sorrow, seek happiness.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“But to fall in love does not mean to love. One can fall in love and still hate.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Above all, avoid lies, all lies, especially the lie to yourself. Keep watch on your own lie and examine it every hour, every minute. And avoid contempt, both of others and of yourself: what seems bad to you in yourself is purified by the very fact that you have noticed it in yourself. And avoid fear, though fear is simply the consequence of every lie. Never be frightened at your own faintheartedness in attaining love, and meanwhile do not even be very frightened by your own bad acts.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“There is nothing more alluring to man than freedom of conscience, but neither is there anything more agonizing.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Faith does not, in the realist, spring from the miracle but the miracle from faith. If the realist once believes, then he is bound by his very realism to admit the miraculous also.”
Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Alyosha's heart could not bear uncertainty, for the nature of his love was always active. He could not love passively; once he loved, he immediately also began to help.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“The world says: "You have needs -- satisfy them. You have as much right as the rich and the mighty. Don't hesitate to satisfy your needs; indeed, expand your needs and demand more." This is the worldly doctrine of today. And they believe that this is freedom. The result for the rich is isolation and suicide, for the poor, envy and murder.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Fyodor Dostoevsky
“You mustn't ask too much of human endurance, one must be merciful.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov


Reading Progress

March 29, 2011 – Shelved
August 1, 2012 – Shelved as: russian-stuff
August 3, 2012 – Started Reading
August 3, 2012 –
page 38
4.77% "So after putting this book down in April 2011 to read Crime And Punishment I have finally started to continue my read of this book."
August 7, 2012 –
page 85
10.68% "So what I have learned so far is...the Elder is a saint, Aloyshna is pure(?), and the daddy is an ass, just a pure ass. Not half-ass, not crazy-ass, just an ass. Ivan is a schemer and Dimitri is a lite-version of his father with the bonus of having moral fiber."
August 15, 2012 –
page 108
13.57% "So Dimitri, interesting chap. So far I can't make heads or tails about this familia they are...I'll keep reading."
August 23, 2012 –
page 131
16.46% "This family…the hell is wrong with them! Even when they have normal conversation it is intense, frantic, on the edge. Love it!"
August 28, 2012 –
page 137
17.21%
September 8, 2012 –
page 151
18.97% "Finally got to get back into some more "Keeping up with the Karamazovs". As is always the case the action is incapable of slowing down. As soon as one twist is introduced another one comes in and then another. I just stopped reading as a double twist occurred."
September 11, 2012 –
page 162
20.35% "I am now on Book 4 so I will pause here. I will give my short impressions of the title characters as of now. Dimitri though the oldest is also the dumbest of the trio and most like the dad (without the savvy, evil mind), Ivan is the smartest and always seems to have something up his sleeve. And then their's Alexi, is by far the most likeable and pure hearted person in this world , though still has a little weirdness."
September 13, 2012 –
page 165
20.73% "Wow, only a view pages in and I am touched by what Father Zosima has said. I wish more clergy took in his advice and commit what he says to heart, dammit Dostoevsky, why is he the one...time to keep going."
September 13, 2012 –
page 171
21.48% "One has to wonder why I pause so much in between reads of this book. I 'm suspecting that it is so engaging my brain has to prepare itself for whatever new event is just around the corner or page."
September 14, 2012 –
page 180
22.61% "Didn't want to get to far without again mentioning that Alyosha is a saint, a not to clever, nearly a fool saint but a saint. Also I amamzed at how fast this book seems despite the fact that it is so long! And I don't mind...much. Still, it is divided up and contains enough action (or plot progression) that you will not notice the length a whole lot as you are to busy guessing what is next."
September 14, 2012 –
page 213
26.76% "So I am on Book V, the most famous "Book" in this novel because it has the most famous chapter of this novel. I may not do another status update until right before I go into "The Grand Inquisitor" .

I do have to laugh, F.D. can troll so effortlessly. This last chapter had me so moved and as soon as I feel so much "Christianly" love boom, squashes it and laughs as he does. Again, I love it."
September 23, 2012 –
page 246
30.9% "Ok. I had from everyone that Ivan's "The Grand Inquisitor" was gonna be intense but the lead up in this last chapter ('Rebellion") was intense enough. He has a lot of grievance with the world and now he will lay his whole polemic out. Credit to Alyosha to bearing it all so well for a novice monk. I was going to recap each chapter shortly but this chapter has me ready to finish the conversation between the brothers."
September 27, 2012 –
page 252
31.66%
September 27, 2012 –
page 256
32.16%
September 27, 2012 –
page 260
32.66% "Hmm…okayyyy, I'm gonna pause a bit and finish out the chapter."
September 27, 2012 –
page 264
33.17% "And done. That wasn't as bad as I thought. Maybe it was because I was prepared but it could also be that for the first time Alyosha was actually being cynical (in a good way) with some one and it happened to be the books resident skeptic. Ivan's argument was powerful but like Alyosha I called bullshit several times, to say the least. I'll elaborate when I review the book proper."
September 29, 2012 –
page 275
34.55% "It's amazing to think how long but well edited this book is. Notes From Underground was actually pretty short but so dense and psychological/philosophical. I'm still trying to find another shorter book that I can easily read along side this one."
September 30, 2012 –
page 282
35.43%
October 6, 2012 –
page 285
35.8%
October 16, 2012 –
page 295
37.06% "Well it seems I can finally confirm without a doubt Father Zosima was the only sane character in this novel. I am now at Book 6 which is justa bio of the monks life and after the whole episode with Ivan it is good that FD finally givesus a normal human being that we can not just relate to but can admire with abundance. Even Alyosha, pure as he is, can't hold a candle to Zosima."
October 16, 2012 –
page 301
37.81% "Again I have to stop and marvel that for the first time I have met a character in a Dostoevsky book who is actually normal and I am stunned. the guy (Father Zosima) could have almost have been written by Tolstoy-almost. Never thought a novel this long could be so good."
October 18, 2012 –
page 316
39.7% "Reading the passages of this homily by Zosima it is very painfully ironic. He shakes his head at the revolutions occuring in 19th century europe and is adamant that "God will save Russia" while we the modern reader can not help having the Russian revoloution in the forefront of our minds. Even now in the era Putin I don't see Zosima's (& FD's) utopia though I hope it happens one day."
October 31, 2012 –
page 326
40.95% "Now that I am done with the Father Zosima bio I have to say that I am glad he was put after Ivan's grand polemic. Zosima's life and sermons, especially on pages 323-324, offer the perfect refute to Ivan's hellishly...hellish worldview. He has to be one of my favorite literary characters or at least who I would most admire."
October 31, 2012 –
page 360
45.23% "Stream-of-consensuses in a 19th century novel? Just when I thought I could not have more reasons to like this book."
October 31, 2012 –
page 363
45.6% "What a powerful wrap up. Starting from the Rebellion section with Alexi and Ivan to now after the aftermath of the insane Wake, that whole day felt like one big saga in the middle of the novel. The next section now goes back to Dimitri which means back to trainwreck central."
November 2, 2012 – Shelved as: philosophy-stuff
November 14, 2012 –
page 371
46.61%
December 2, 2012 –
page 419
52.64%
January 9, 2013 –
page 444
55.78% "This last pre-trial arc took a long time to get to and it did drag somewhat but it was important that we read this to get to The important part of the plot of this novel and I hope now that it starts picking up."
January 20, 2013 –
page 465
58.42% "I have finished the first interrogation and am now entering the second one."
January 24, 2013 –
page 472
59.3%
January 24, 2013 –
page 508
63.82% "I'm sorry I have to breeze through the rest of this section. to sum it up instead of clearing himself, Dimitri because of his stupidity and pride incriminates himself of something he didn't do instead of coming clear telling everything and he is about to be officially indicted and taken away."
January 25, 2013 –
page 514
64.57% "Dimitri is indicted and taken away and we now rejoin another plot line."
January 26, 2013 –
page 535
67.21% "Oh of course something bad happens and the most creep-tastic guy in town is involved! I always wondered in stories like this one and 'David Copperfield' how the most creepy character is never suspected of being an evil…creep. Damn you Smerdyakov (& Uriah Heep)!"
January 26, 2013 –
page 553
69.47%
January 26, 2013 –
page 562
70.6% "Wow, I don't believe this...but looks like I may finish this this beast before summer, which is saying a lot considering my attention span these last couple of months. I mean I love Dostoevsky but and really love this book but now I am getting tired of it and have other novels to get to (that means you Faulkner, I am finishing your crazy family next). Well now it is time to get to Ivan again..."
January 26, 2013 –
page 573
71.98% "Skotoprigonyevsk. The name of the town where all this madness is taking place is Skotoprigonyevsk. I guess by this point in the manuscript Dostoevsky didn't care any more."
January 26, 2013 –
page 585
73.49% "Wow, the people in this town grow more insane by the minute. I feel for Alyosha being not only the only decent human being but apparently the only one who has not gone completely insane."
January 26, 2013 –
page 603
75.75%
January 27, 2013 –
page 622
78.14%
January 27, 2013 –
page 625
78.52% "And here the point is made, you can say 'everything is permitted' but you have a much harder time practicing it or even believing it. Point well made Dostoevsky, point well made. Now time to see the villain and his mentor meet their demise. Why do I have to have a headache now at the crucial parts!"
January 27, 2013 –
page 634
79.65%
January 27, 2013 –
page 639
80.28% "Wait…Leo Tolstoy was just mentioned by name. I don't know what to say about that and it is especially unfortunate that I can't mention the context as it is definitely spoiler material."
January 27, 2013 –
page 650
81.66% "Wow this part is just flying like crazy! Everything at once, I'm definitely got to remember all of this for the review. This book is judt so revelatory in a way (I do remeber at this point that the Greek word for revelation is apocalypse and this whole arc of this book from the time Aloyshna showed up through now with Ivan has been just that for me."
January 28, 2013 –
page 655
82.29% "I am a little late. Well to update: Ivan has finally lost the last of his secular marbles, Alyosha is still the last sane man in town the actual murderer is dead, and Dimitri's trial begins. Keeping up With The Karamazovs."
January 28, 2013 –
page 684
85.93% "Well I see where this case is headed. So right after the testimony by the two women fighting over you goes bad, the next person to testify is your brother who not only hates you, but is also in total psychosis and has no grip on reality as a whole. I see why the this new chapter is called 'A Sudden Catastrophe,' that's what I was thinking of the judicial system in this crazy village."
January 28, 2013 –
page 686
86.18% "Well you maybe in trouble when on trial your newly-deranged brother goes before the judge and tries to use the devil as a character witness to prove your innocence. It's like the story from this point is in a dramatic free fall of the absurd (and it is awesome)."
January 28, 2013 –
page 725
91.08% "Okay so that is the prosecutions final statement. Note to self, Read Gogol's Dead Souls, It has been referenced more than any other book and Gogol more than any other author in this book. That is amazing considering F.D. tried mention everyone even Tolstoy! Oh now we move to the defense closing argument and I will start from reading from Chapter 11 and than skip to Chapter 14 and continue to the end."
January 28, 2013 –
page 729
91.58%
January 30, 2013 –
page 748
93.97%
January 30, 2013 –
page 755
94.85% "Alright now I have only the epilogue left, I am really surprised and thoroughly enjoyed this book."
February 1, 2013 –
page 776
97.49% "My God, what a way to end a novel. Well time to take a deep breath and say a few words on this masterpiece."
February 1, 2013 – Shelved as: favorites
February 1, 2013 – Finished Reading
September 12, 2016 – Shelved as: realism-stuff

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message 1: by K (new) - rated it 4 stars

K Gomez Have you read any other Dostoevsky? I read this earlier this year and enjoyed it but it's not my favourite of his works.


B. P. Rinehart Yes! I've read Notes from Underground which is on my favorites shelf, and I have read Crime and Punishment which would have made that shelf but I suspected and (so far) am sure that TBK would be better and so far it is.


message 3: by Hend (new) - added it

Hend I Wanna read it.
:)


B. P. Rinehart Hend wrote: "I Wanna read it.
:)"


This is an amazing book. I've been lately going back & forth between it and Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty and have been enjoying myself well.


B. P. Rinehart Read C&P before reading this. But be careful of Raskolnikov, he's a little crazy.


B. P. Rinehart It has took me so long to read this book. I was so foolish to even have thought I would pace myself through. Now where do I go next as far as Russian literature is concerned? I will probably read some Tolstoy short stories that and his novella Hadji Murat and than my next big Russian read will be The Major Plays by Anton Chekhov but for the time being, I'm giving Fyodor Dostoevsky a break! Still my favorite Russian author though.


message 7: by B. P. (last edited Feb 01, 2013 05:41PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

B. P. Rinehart I've also heard a lot about it and I have it on my to-read list. I will most likely get to it after a little more Tolstoy and I have to get to the Chekhov plays which I feel will complete the 19th century of Russian lit (at least for me). I have read Gogol, FD , Tolstoy, Chekhov (short story wise) and have seen Gorky's The Lower Depths. I just need to read them plays.


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

Yes, read http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11... , it's a great book. I have read many times, and I must say I don't get bored with it.


B. P. Rinehart I have it on my to-read list. It will be awhile though before I get to it as I explained in my previous post. At least now I have high expectations of it.


Philip of Macedon Great review. Finished this a couple days ago, myself. And I agree with your brief synopsis of Crime and Punishment. I was bored at first, but a little more than halfway through I found it compelling and exciting and I ended up loving it.

BUT, I just wanted to point out one small thing.

*SPOILER*

Your spoiler is incorrect! Dmitri is found guilty at the end. This is why they discuss his escape in the epilogue.


B. P. Rinehart First, thank you for the compliment. The spoiler wasn't for Dimitri it was, as I say in the sentence, for existence itself.


Philip of Macedon Ah, yes. My mistake.


message 13: by s.penkevich (new) - added it

s.penkevich Fantastic review. Gah, I really need to read this book!!


B. P. Rinehart You haven't read it yet? I thought you'd have knock this one out along time ago. I think you will like it.


message 15: by Lynne (last edited Nov 10, 2013 01:49AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lynne King Ken, This review is excellent. I read this book so long ago that perhaps I should revisit it to see if I still view it in the same light.


message 16: by ij (new) - added it

ij Great review.


AlexeyKaramazov Ken, I just had to get a logon to goodreads.com so I could say thank you for this tremendous and insightufl review. Aside, I hope some day, when you are in the right frame of mind, you can revisit Crime & Punishment --- not as great as the Brothers Karamazov, but still better than Tolstoy's Anna Karenina [not shabby either].


B. P. Rinehart One day I will. I would not mind going over the first half of Crime and Punishment again, I predict that I may be in a more understanding mood with the foresight of what will happen.


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