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The Brothers Karamazov
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bookshelves: russian-stuff, philosophy-stuff, favorites, realism-stuff
Mar 29, 2011
bookshelves: russian-stuff, philosophy-stuff, favorites, realism-stuff
[Update 7/08/2013: I guess this review deserves a preface. Before you read it keep in mind that this book nearly made me stop reading novels because I felt that after this nothing will ever reach up to its level. Now I know there are longer novels and maybe better manageable novels, and this book isn't my all-time favorite ([book:Invisible Man|16981]) but this book is just special. After about two months I started picking up comic books and graphic novels to get me back in the habit of reading and I have by this time "recovered" but I will always be appreciated]
"And even if only one good memory remains with us in our hearts, that alone may serve some day for our salvation."
This will no doubt be the most difficult thing I have ever reviewed. There is so much that one gets when reading a Russian novel-or any good novel to be honest. But in this massive work you get it all. Lots of characters pop up, everyone has long names and are known by different names depending on who is speaking, when a person does anything they talk or "think" about it at great length, and hate him or love him almost all characters are required to talk about God. But then we have the things that Dostoevsky is known for. The narrator is not objective, not by a long shot; every character is played in the most exaggerated fashion possible-NO EXCEPTIONS! Children are often shown having to go through some [insert Russian word for overly harsh ordeal or shit]. At least 3 out of 10 characters have to die or be driven near death or total insanity.
That being said this book rises above the competition because its author took every fiber of being in him to make this. I don't think it is a surprise that he died after this novel was published. This book puts so much of not just humanity or God but existence itself on trial and (view spoiler) .
The good thing about a book this long is that FD has plenty of time to give us the complete essence of every character and he takes advantage. I was also amazed quite quick at how much I felt so involved in every minute and how I felt I was experiencing every thing right along with the characters, which is something that I don't experience with even the best writers often. My two favorite characters were the Elder Father Zosima and of course the main protagonist (according to Dostoevsky) Alexi Fyodorvich Karamazov. But I really took to Father Zosima, if there was ever someone who so totally destroyed the notion and essence of the infamous "Grand Inquisitor" it was him and he demonstrated it in how he lived not in any fancy speech.
One of the complaints I had about Crime and Punishment was that it took me almost 2/3 of the book to really become involved-or should I say to actually feel like I knew and cared what happened to the characters. I warmed up quicker to Sonya than I did Raskolnikov(sp?) but overall I felt that nearly 5/8 (or 2/3) of that novel was exposition with some plot mixed in until the last 1/3 when the plot went into the incredible conclusion.
That was not the case here. From the beginning I was captivated by how well the action and exposition blended in the novel. This book went big as much as possible and it payed off. Seldom was I bored with the book (despite how long it took me to finish it) and I always looked forward to reading it. I do wonder what I would have thought had I not stopped in April 2011 to read C&P, not resuming this novel until July 2012. In any case I have always felt very rewarded when reading Dostoevsky.
The blending of multiple plots is very well done and it helped make the town in the story really seem like a town. Just because one thing happened it doesn't stop every other drama in town from also happening. And if you have lived in a small town then this setting is very recognizable and understandable to you in the way of the familiarity of the armada of characters' knowing of each other.
This book also surprised me in its early use of tropes that became very common in the modernist movement of 20th century, such as stream-of-consciousness, the time jumping without any indication, and some other minor innovations.
I was so struck at how honestly the story was handled amidst some justifiable temptation to cop out at many moments. This story was going to be truthful and fair and it explored so many depths of the human psyche that one has to wonder how FD was not given an honorary psychology degree by every university in Russia.
I no-doubt understand why so many different people, from many walks of life and beliefs, have hailed this as their favorite novel it stands as one of the greatest works of literature ever. I am only scratching the surface and may find that I have to add more to this review but right now I don't know what else can be said. I have no idea who I would recommend this book to but, I will say that when ever you are ready to read it, don't look back just give yourself to it and really try to understand where Fyodor Dostoevsky is going and what he is saying to you. This is not a "first" read but a best read.
"And eternally so, all our lives hand in hand! Hurrah for Karamazov!"
"And even if only one good memory remains with us in our hearts, that alone may serve some day for our salvation."
This will no doubt be the most difficult thing I have ever reviewed. There is so much that one gets when reading a Russian novel-or any good novel to be honest. But in this massive work you get it all. Lots of characters pop up, everyone has long names and are known by different names depending on who is speaking, when a person does anything they talk or "think" about it at great length, and hate him or love him almost all characters are required to talk about God. But then we have the things that Dostoevsky is known for. The narrator is not objective, not by a long shot; every character is played in the most exaggerated fashion possible-NO EXCEPTIONS! Children are often shown having to go through some [insert Russian word for overly harsh ordeal or shit]. At least 3 out of 10 characters have to die or be driven near death or total insanity.
That being said this book rises above the competition because its author took every fiber of being in him to make this. I don't think it is a surprise that he died after this novel was published. This book puts so much of not just humanity or God but existence itself on trial and (view spoiler) .
The good thing about a book this long is that FD has plenty of time to give us the complete essence of every character and he takes advantage. I was also amazed quite quick at how much I felt so involved in every minute and how I felt I was experiencing every thing right along with the characters, which is something that I don't experience with even the best writers often. My two favorite characters were the Elder Father Zosima and of course the main protagonist (according to Dostoevsky) Alexi Fyodorvich Karamazov. But I really took to Father Zosima, if there was ever someone who so totally destroyed the notion and essence of the infamous "Grand Inquisitor" it was him and he demonstrated it in how he lived not in any fancy speech.
One of the complaints I had about Crime and Punishment was that it took me almost 2/3 of the book to really become involved-or should I say to actually feel like I knew and cared what happened to the characters. I warmed up quicker to Sonya than I did Raskolnikov(sp?) but overall I felt that nearly 5/8 (or 2/3) of that novel was exposition with some plot mixed in until the last 1/3 when the plot went into the incredible conclusion.
That was not the case here. From the beginning I was captivated by how well the action and exposition blended in the novel. This book went big as much as possible and it payed off. Seldom was I bored with the book (despite how long it took me to finish it) and I always looked forward to reading it. I do wonder what I would have thought had I not stopped in April 2011 to read C&P, not resuming this novel until July 2012. In any case I have always felt very rewarded when reading Dostoevsky.
The blending of multiple plots is very well done and it helped make the town in the story really seem like a town. Just because one thing happened it doesn't stop every other drama in town from also happening. And if you have lived in a small town then this setting is very recognizable and understandable to you in the way of the familiarity of the armada of characters' knowing of each other.
This book also surprised me in its early use of tropes that became very common in the modernist movement of 20th century, such as stream-of-consciousness, the time jumping without any indication, and some other minor innovations.
I was so struck at how honestly the story was handled amidst some justifiable temptation to cop out at many moments. This story was going to be truthful and fair and it explored so many depths of the human psyche that one has to wonder how FD was not given an honorary psychology degree by every university in Russia.
I no-doubt understand why so many different people, from many walks of life and beliefs, have hailed this as their favorite novel it stands as one of the greatest works of literature ever. I am only scratching the surface and may find that I have to add more to this review but right now I don't know what else can be said. I have no idea who I would recommend this book to but, I will say that when ever you are ready to read it, don't look back just give yourself to it and really try to understand where Fyodor Dostoevsky is going and what he is saying to you. This is not a "first" read but a best read.
"And eternally so, all our lives hand in hand! Hurrah for Karamazov!"
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“I love mankind, he said, "but I find to my amazement that the more I love mankind as a whole, the less I love man in particular.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Love all God’s creation, both the whole and every grain of sand. Love every leaf, every ray of light. Love the animals, love the plants, love each separate thing. If thou love each thing thou wilt perceive the mystery of God in all; and when once thou perceive this, thou wilt thenceforward grow every day to a fuller understanding of it: until thou come at last to love the whole world with a love that will then be all-embracing and universal.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Believe to the end, even if all men went astray and you were left the only one faithful; bring your offering even then and praise God in your loneliness.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Love is such a priceless treasure that you can buy the whole world with it, and redeem not only your own but other people's sins. Go, and do not be afraid.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“But to fall in love does not mean to love. One can fall in love and still hate.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Above all, avoid lies, all lies, especially the lie to yourself. Keep watch on your own lie and examine it every hour, every minute. And avoid contempt, both of others and of yourself: what seems bad to you in yourself is purified by the very fact that you have noticed it in yourself. And avoid fear, though fear is simply the consequence of every lie. Never be frightened at your own faintheartedness in attaining love, and meanwhile do not even be very frightened by your own bad acts.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“There is nothing more alluring to man than freedom of conscience, but neither is there anything more agonizing.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Faith does not, in the realist, spring from the miracle but the miracle from faith. If the realist once believes, then he is bound by his very realism to admit the miraculous also.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“Alyosha's heart could not bear uncertainty, for the nature of his love was always active. He could not love passively; once he loved, he immediately also began to help.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov

“The world says: "You have needs -- satisfy them. You have as much right as the rich and the mighty. Don't hesitate to satisfy your needs; indeed, expand your needs and demand more." This is the worldly doctrine of today. And they believe that this is freedom. The result for the rich is isolation and suicide, for the poor, envy and murder.”
― The Brothers Karamazov
― The Brothers Karamazov
Reading Progress
March 29, 2011
– Shelved
August 1, 2012
– Shelved as:
russian-stuff
August 3, 2012
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Started Reading
August 3, 2012
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4.77%
"So after putting this book down in April 2011 to read Crime And Punishment I have finally started to continue my read of this book."
page
38
August 7, 2012
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10.68%
"So what I have learned so far is...the Elder is a saint, Aloyshna is pure(?), and the daddy is an ass, just a pure ass. Not half-ass, not crazy-ass, just an ass. Ivan is a schemer and Dimitri is a lite-version of his father with the bonus of having moral fiber."
page
85
August 15, 2012
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13.57%
"So Dimitri, interesting chap. So far I can't make heads or tails about this familia they are...I'll keep reading."
page
108
August 23, 2012
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16.46%
"This family…the hell is wrong with them! Even when they have normal conversation it is intense, frantic, on the edge. Love it!"
page
131
September 8, 2012
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18.97%
"Finally got to get back into some more "Keeping up with the Karamazovs". As is always the case the action is incapable of slowing down. As soon as one twist is introduced another one comes in and then another. I just stopped reading as a double twist occurred."
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151
September 11, 2012
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20.35%
"I am now on Book 4 so I will pause here. I will give my short impressions of the title characters as of now. Dimitri though the oldest is also the dumbest of the trio and most like the dad (without the savvy, evil mind), Ivan is the smartest and always seems to have something up his sleeve. And then their's Alexi, is by far the most likeable and pure hearted person in this world , though still has a little weirdness."
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162
September 13, 2012
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20.73%
"Wow, only a view pages in and I am touched by what Father Zosima has said. I wish more clergy took in his advice and commit what he says to heart, dammit Dostoevsky, why is he the one...time to keep going."
page
165
September 13, 2012
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21.48%
"One has to wonder why I pause so much in between reads of this book. I 'm suspecting that it is so engaging my brain has to prepare itself for whatever new event is just around the corner or page."
page
171
September 14, 2012
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22.61%
"Didn't want to get to far without again mentioning that Alyosha is a saint, a not to clever, nearly a fool saint but a saint. Also I amamzed at how fast this book seems despite the fact that it is so long! And I don't mind...much. Still, it is divided up and contains enough action (or plot progression) that you will not notice the length a whole lot as you are to busy guessing what is next."
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180
September 14, 2012
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26.76%
"So I am on Book V, the most famous "Book" in this novel because it has the most famous chapter of this novel. I may not do another status update until right before I go into "The Grand Inquisitor" .
I do have to laugh, F.D. can troll so effortlessly. This last chapter had me so moved and as soon as I feel so much "Christianly" love boom, squashes it and laughs as he does. Again, I love it."
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213
I do have to laugh, F.D. can troll so effortlessly. This last chapter had me so moved and as soon as I feel so much "Christianly" love boom, squashes it and laughs as he does. Again, I love it."
September 23, 2012
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30.9%
"Ok. I had from everyone that Ivan's "The Grand Inquisitor" was gonna be intense but the lead up in this last chapter ('Rebellion") was intense enough. He has a lot of grievance with the world and now he will lay his whole polemic out. Credit to Alyosha to bearing it all so well for a novice monk. I was going to recap each chapter shortly but this chapter has me ready to finish the conversation between the brothers."
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246
September 27, 2012
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32.66%
"Hmm…okayyyy, I'm gonna pause a bit and finish out the chapter."
page
260
September 27, 2012
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33.17%
"And done. That wasn't as bad as I thought. Maybe it was because I was prepared but it could also be that for the first time Alyosha was actually being cynical (in a good way) with some one and it happened to be the books resident skeptic. Ivan's argument was powerful but like Alyosha I called bullshit several times, to say the least. I'll elaborate when I review the book proper."
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264
September 29, 2012
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34.55%
"It's amazing to think how long but well edited this book is. Notes From Underground was actually pretty short but so dense and psychological/philosophical. I'm still trying to find another shorter book that I can easily read along side this one."
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275
October 16, 2012
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37.06%
"Well it seems I can finally confirm without a doubt Father Zosima was the only sane character in this novel. I am now at Book 6 which is justa bio of the monks life and after the whole episode with Ivan it is good that FD finally givesus a normal human being that we can not just relate to but can admire with abundance. Even Alyosha, pure as he is, can't hold a candle to Zosima."
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295
October 16, 2012
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37.81%
"Again I have to stop and marvel that for the first time I have met a character in a Dostoevsky book who is actually normal and I am stunned. the guy (Father Zosima) could have almost have been written by Tolstoy-almost. Never thought a novel this long could be so good."
page
301
October 18, 2012
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39.7%
"Reading the passages of this homily by Zosima it is very painfully ironic. He shakes his head at the revolutions occuring in 19th century europe and is adamant that "God will save Russia" while we the modern reader can not help having the Russian revoloution in the forefront of our minds. Even now in the era Putin I don't see Zosima's (& FD's) utopia though I hope it happens one day."
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316
October 31, 2012
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40.95%
"Now that I am done with the Father Zosima bio I have to say that I am glad he was put after Ivan's grand polemic. Zosima's life and sermons, especially on pages 323-324, offer the perfect refute to Ivan's hellishly...hellish worldview. He has to be one of my favorite literary characters or at least who I would most admire."
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326
October 31, 2012
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45.23%
"Stream-of-consensuses in a 19th century novel? Just when I thought I could not have more reasons to like this book."
page
360
October 31, 2012
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45.6%
"What a powerful wrap up. Starting from the Rebellion section with Alexi and Ivan to now after the aftermath of the insane Wake, that whole day felt like one big saga in the middle of the novel. The next section now goes back to Dimitri which means back to trainwreck central."
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363
November 2, 2012
– Shelved as:
philosophy-stuff
January 9, 2013
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55.78%
"This last pre-trial arc took a long time to get to and it did drag somewhat but it was important that we read this to get to The important part of the plot of this novel and I hope now that it starts picking up."
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444
January 20, 2013
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58.42%
"I have finished the first interrogation and am now entering the second one."
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465
January 24, 2013
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63.82%
"I'm sorry I have to breeze through the rest of this section. to sum it up instead of clearing himself, Dimitri because of his stupidity and pride incriminates himself of something he didn't do instead of coming clear telling everything and he is about to be officially indicted and taken away."
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508
January 25, 2013
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64.57%
"Dimitri is indicted and taken away and we now rejoin another plot line."
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514
January 26, 2013
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67.21%
"Oh of course something bad happens and the most creep-tastic guy in town is involved! I always wondered in stories like this one and 'David Copperfield' how the most creepy character is never suspected of being an evil…creep. Damn you Smerdyakov (& Uriah Heep)!"
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535
January 26, 2013
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70.6%
"Wow, I don't believe this...but looks like I may finish this this beast before summer, which is saying a lot considering my attention span these last couple of months. I mean I love Dostoevsky but and really love this book but now I am getting tired of it and have other novels to get to (that means you Faulkner, I am finishing your crazy family next). Well now it is time to get to Ivan again..."
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562
January 26, 2013
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71.98%
"Skotoprigonyevsk. The name of the town where all this madness is taking place is Skotoprigonyevsk. I guess by this point in the manuscript Dostoevsky didn't care any more."
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573
January 26, 2013
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73.49%
"Wow, the people in this town grow more insane by the minute. I feel for Alyosha being not only the only decent human being but apparently the only one who has not gone completely insane."
page
585
January 27, 2013
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78.52%
"And here the point is made, you can say 'everything is permitted' but you have a much harder time practicing it or even believing it. Point well made Dostoevsky, point well made. Now time to see the villain and his mentor meet their demise. Why do I have to have a headache now at the crucial parts!"
page
625
January 27, 2013
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80.28%
"Wait…Leo Tolstoy was just mentioned by name. I don't know what to say about that and it is especially unfortunate that I can't mention the context as it is definitely spoiler material."
page
639
January 27, 2013
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81.66%
"Wow this part is just flying like crazy! Everything at once, I'm definitely got to remember all of this for the review. This book is judt so revelatory in a way (I do remeber at this point that the Greek word for revelation is apocalypse and this whole arc of this book from the time Aloyshna showed up through now with Ivan has been just that for me."
page
650
January 28, 2013
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82.29%
"I am a little late. Well to update: Ivan has finally lost the last of his secular marbles, Alyosha is still the last sane man in town the actual murderer is dead, and Dimitri's trial begins. Keeping up With The Karamazovs."
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655
January 28, 2013
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85.93%
"Well I see where this case is headed. So right after the testimony by the two women fighting over you goes bad, the next person to testify is your brother who not only hates you, but is also in total psychosis and has no grip on reality as a whole. I see why the this new chapter is called 'A Sudden Catastrophe,' that's what I was thinking of the judicial system in this crazy village."
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684
January 28, 2013
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86.18%
"Well you maybe in trouble when on trial your newly-deranged brother goes before the judge and tries to use the devil as a character witness to prove your innocence. It's like the story from this point is in a dramatic free fall of the absurd (and it is awesome)."
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686
January 28, 2013
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91.08%
"Okay so that is the prosecutions final statement. Note to self, Read Gogol's Dead Souls, It has been referenced more than any other book and Gogol more than any other author in this book. That is amazing considering F.D. tried mention everyone even Tolstoy! Oh now we move to the defense closing argument and I will start from reading from Chapter 11 and than skip to Chapter 14 and continue to the end."
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725
January 30, 2013
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94.85%
"Alright now I have only the epilogue left, I am really surprised and thoroughly enjoyed this book."
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755
February 1, 2013
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97.49%
"My God, what a way to end a novel. Well time to take a deep breath and say a few words on this masterpiece."
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776
February 1, 2013
– Shelved as:
favorites
February 1, 2013
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Finished Reading
September 12, 2016
– Shelved as:
realism-stuff
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This is an amazing book. I've been lately going back & forth between it and Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty and have been enjoying myself well.


Yes, read http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11... , it's a great book. I have read many times, and I must say I don't get bored with it.


BUT, I just wanted to point out one small thing.
*SPOILER*
Your spoiler is incorrect! Dmitri is found guilty at the end. This is why they discuss his escape in the epilogue.




