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Lady Susan
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Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere.
O Lady Susan Vernon, what a juicy jewel of a villainous character you are, a black diamond, repelling and fascinating at the same time, your wicked charm inspiring possibly an uncanny form of envy more than simple revulsion. Deceiving everyone with your angelic face and pleasingly mild manners of hypocrite virtue, your honeyed smile covers up a cold-hearted, calculating, selfish nature � and how cunningly sophisticated and feisty you are in comparison with those limp noodles of ‘contemptibly weak� men who are so unlucky and naïve to get entangled in your scheming, just playthings and pawns in your frivolous and cruel games. Speaking your mind, confiding your real thoughts, motives and stratagems in the letters to your equally evil friend Mrs. Johnson, you drop the mask of amiable countenance, showing the hideous face of the ruthless, manipulative and coquettish seductress more ordinary women furtively fear or believe to be hidden behind an all too pretty face, an overkill of charm and overly refined manners � a treacherous face they’d be happy to expose, as your sister-in-law relentlessly expounds in her letters to her mother.
However it might appear slightly preposterous in our present day context, and aside from your exasperating and vicious character, Janus-faced, unadulterated malignancy, lies, indulgence in power and dominance, abhorrent mistreatment of your poor daughter Frederica, your rather disgracefully merry recent widowhood (grief-stricken? not you) - isn’t your behaviour simply rational and comprehensible in the world of Jane Austen, an attempt to basically have a normal household again, regain status, avoid and overcome penury and ill reputation � after all, for women in your position, a sensible way of dealing with the ordeals of widowhood if not amongst the lucky ones to whom it brought wealth or even power? A la guerre comme à la guerre! What was to be expected for you as such a widow in the male-dominated society in that time and class? What was to be done? Did you truly have other alternatives than go on the hunt for a rich second spouse and foisting yourself upon the household of your late husband’s brother as an operating base to improve your circumstances, left behind with no home, no money, and nothing useful to do?

I am tired of submitting my will to the caprices of others; of resigning my own judgment in deference to those to whom I owe no duty, and for whom I feel no respect.
In such a patriarchal world there is no convenient place for an unattached woman, regardless of her eventual valiant intelligence and shrewd machinations, and specifically not if ‘dangerously endowed with experience and independence� and potentially unchaste like a widow, a figure to be feared and guarded against, knowing the game all too well. But she doesn’t set the rules of the game. And young Jane Austen � estimated to have written this delicious epistolary novella between 1793-94, not yet twenty years old - didn’t seem keen on endangering or shocking society by letting her amoral widow bask in her redeemed liberty and independence for long.
Where there is a disposition to dislike, a motive will never be wanting.
O Lady Susan Vernon, what a juicy jewel of a villainous character you are, a black diamond, repelling and fascinating at the same time, your wicked charm inspiring possibly an uncanny form of envy more than simple revulsion. Deceiving everyone with your angelic face and pleasingly mild manners of hypocrite virtue, your honeyed smile covers up a cold-hearted, calculating, selfish nature � and how cunningly sophisticated and feisty you are in comparison with those limp noodles of ‘contemptibly weak� men who are so unlucky and naïve to get entangled in your scheming, just playthings and pawns in your frivolous and cruel games. Speaking your mind, confiding your real thoughts, motives and stratagems in the letters to your equally evil friend Mrs. Johnson, you drop the mask of amiable countenance, showing the hideous face of the ruthless, manipulative and coquettish seductress more ordinary women furtively fear or believe to be hidden behind an all too pretty face, an overkill of charm and overly refined manners � a treacherous face they’d be happy to expose, as your sister-in-law relentlessly expounds in her letters to her mother.
However it might appear slightly preposterous in our present day context, and aside from your exasperating and vicious character, Janus-faced, unadulterated malignancy, lies, indulgence in power and dominance, abhorrent mistreatment of your poor daughter Frederica, your rather disgracefully merry recent widowhood (grief-stricken? not you) - isn’t your behaviour simply rational and comprehensible in the world of Jane Austen, an attempt to basically have a normal household again, regain status, avoid and overcome penury and ill reputation � after all, for women in your position, a sensible way of dealing with the ordeals of widowhood if not amongst the lucky ones to whom it brought wealth or even power? A la guerre comme à la guerre! What was to be expected for you as such a widow in the male-dominated society in that time and class? What was to be done? Did you truly have other alternatives than go on the hunt for a rich second spouse and foisting yourself upon the household of your late husband’s brother as an operating base to improve your circumstances, left behind with no home, no money, and nothing useful to do?

I am tired of submitting my will to the caprices of others; of resigning my own judgment in deference to those to whom I owe no duty, and for whom I feel no respect.
In such a patriarchal world there is no convenient place for an unattached woman, regardless of her eventual valiant intelligence and shrewd machinations, and specifically not if ‘dangerously endowed with experience and independence� and potentially unchaste like a widow, a figure to be feared and guarded against, knowing the game all too well. But she doesn’t set the rules of the game. And young Jane Austen � estimated to have written this delicious epistolary novella between 1793-94, not yet twenty years old - didn’t seem keen on endangering or shocking society by letting her amoral widow bask in her redeemed liberty and independence for long.
Where there is a disposition to dislike, a motive will never be wanting.
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Thank you very much, Fionnuala, what added to the fun for me was that Lady Susan at 35 is depicted as middle-aged - I can imagine this, like so many other novels, comes across quite different when reading it 'not yet twenty';p - I would very much like to hear your current thoughts on the unforgettable Lady Susan! On Austen's observance of her relatives, I wonder if some of them did read her work, and then how they responded when recognizing certain features in her characters. I read one source for Lady Susan was 'her cousin Eliza de Feuillide, who flirted with both James and Henry Austen and in the end married Henry, reluctant though she was to exchange "the homage of half a dozen" for "subjection and the attachment of a single individual".'


Thank you very much, Dolors, Lady Susan is such a wonderful anti-heroine, to me it appears that Jane Austen endowed her with all possible feminine vices she spotted in her environment, at once shaking her head observing men willing to be deceived by them :). I can very well understand that reading Austen inspired your Anglophile leanings, imagining the same could have happened to me if I had read her before getting glued to France and Russia :) (imagining now what a whole different reading life this would have been). Unlike you, I have only read this, P & P and S & S so far, but got terribly hooked and now treat her like other authors which render such an intense reading pleasure, allowing myself only to bask in her writing once a year - so much left to look forward to (and maybe you wrote or will write on your (re)reads of her, even more joy for me in the discovery...)

Elle certainement aime les petits jeux épineux, Fede :p


She certainly had, Silvia, and at a certain moment I thought she would take revenge on Lady Susan, maybe a certain anger or envy inspired by a real person modelling for the wicked lady getting in her way, but no, she is much too smart for such a predictable narrative - I have read too little of her so far to tell if so different from the other novels, in form (the letters) maybe yes - for choice of the protagonist, also (just look at the woman's age, 35 already!). Thank you very much for your lovely comment, I am curious to hear your thoughts about it once you would get to it!

O don't bother, Silvia, I gave up writing on the darn phone all together as always autocorrecting into the weirdest things :(




Thank you very much for your - as ever - so lovely response to this, Scarlett, which I am reading while enjoying the sun, the calm and singing birds in the garden, on one of those rare days of Spring delight in our often so grey and wet a region- the thought of your laughter putting a big smile on my face, thank you :). This lady is indeed quite a character - actually reminding me of someone I could not mention in decency ;p - and as you haven't met her yet, I am fairly sure she will amuse you when you do - it is a short novel, perfect for a beautiful evening in Spring :).

Thank you, Elie - particularly helpful for girls happy with a not too bright one ;p).

Thank you, Lisa, happy to hear Spring is getting to you as well in the North:) ! You might find this short epistolary novel somewhat less rounded than her other novels you are reading this year, but the naughty titular character is quite entertaining, she would maybe nicely balance Austen's younger heroines for you :).

:D parfait! Quoting from a friend's review to type Lady Susan as alluringly as I can to you: 'The acidic, viper-like tongue of our main character has something in common with the scheming, self-absorbed Mme Merteuil' :).

I even cannot imagine how the women of the past were feeling domintaed by male world. So something we might find scheming was probably the act of heroism:-) But equally, there was for example George Eliot who was very talented and visibly not bounded by conventions of the time.
Interesting discussion on the comments about the perception of age in the 19th century. I just wanted to add an example from Dostoyevsky. The "old lady- pawnbroker", whom Raskolnikov killed in 'Crime of punishment" apparently was 42! :-)

Interesting point, Rose - like for most things we like to believe in, maybe there was some part of wishful thinking in hers with regard to rewarding virtuosity, of which she was aware? However I enjoyed reading S & S last year, I cannot deny I thought Lady Susan as a character more fascinating than the Dashwood sisters - but maybe that is simply the bias of age :).


Well, Vessey, I can only congratulate you on your astute analysis of the foul ways of the lady - you are spot on and that without reading the book! She is utterly malicious and takes great pleasure in outwitting her 'victims' (Another quote: 'There is exquisite pleasure in subduing an insolent spirit, in making a person predetermined to dislike acknowledge one’s superiority.'), while indeed I can understand some of her aims in the context in which she lives, she causes a lot of collateral damage just because she can and likes so, adding unnecessary suffering to others to reach her goals - which, as a character, makes her interesting ;). Thank you so much, as ever, my friend, for reading and posting your generous and insightful comment!

In case you are suggesting I never will make it to heaven, I didn't expect or hope so, Sir, so you are right I might have tried a few other places ;).


On a certain moment, I thought I would never manage to get out of France, Silvia - and then there are still so many classic French books left to read - one of the reasons we had great overviews on the highlights of French lit at school, on English lit it wasn't more than half a page, and I still feel like stumbling around in it clueless. I try not to binge-read (out of optimism that I will live long enough to permit myself only one a year ;p? ) but I understand the temptation very well (what you write comparing her heroines utterly tempting :)) and I am happy you find such delight in Austen's wit and esprit, like I do as well!

Thank you for stopping by and your kind words, Marita! To me this short novel was a treat :).


Thanks a lot, Florencia - I didn't had any expectations at all on this (which is often helpful to appreciate a book for me ;p) so from the moment I learned from the first letter Lady Susan seemed a wandering widow I was pleasantly surprised it evolved not into a wallowing nor a simple all's well that ends well story :) - I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on the lady!

Thank you very much, Beverly, so nice of you to say so! Glad you also enjoyed reading on this wicked woman ;).


Incidentally, apropos our little rencontre over Ali Smith recently, I read an interview with AS in which she was asked who her favourite literary heroine is, and to my absolute delight she said Emma Woodhouse, one of Austen's finest creations. I seem to detect that you haven't yet read Emma, so perhaps she might be allowed onto your to-read list? :-)

The old pawnbroker lady being 42, you make me laugh out loud, Katia, thank you, this I had entirely forgotten :). This perception of age in older times indeed quite intriguing in comparison with our current one, which such a dramatic increase in life expectancy in actually short time - if only thinking of our pension law made in 1944, pension set at 65 as at that moment the legislator knew most wouldn't live much longer, if reaching that age at all. Last year, I couldn't but chuckle at a character in Austen's Sense and Sensibility, depicted like he was with one foot in the grave and thus not a worthy candidate for (re)marriage, being already...35! So one could think Austen is more for younger people, but then one comes across this woman so insightfully pictured like you I am quite in awe for her skill at so young an age - the greatness of the writer showing in creating characters of all variety, in age, in gender, in features. If we think where we come from, in gender equality, books like this learn quite some lessons, and we don't have to go back in time that far, recalling that in quite some European countries like my own married women were legally treated like minors, having to obey their husbands until 1956...On Eliot I have to admit not knowing anything yet on her background, but what you write on her exceptionality in her times makes me eager to find out, as I am slowly getting closer to Middlemarch in my alphabetical reading-women-authors in 2018 - project :). Thank you very much for your thoughtful and generous comment dear Katia, very much appreciated!

Thank you very much, Henry - I loved the way Austen contrasted utter but smart vice with virtuous, empathic behaviour here, and look forward to meet more of Austen's heroines, as I only read 3 of her novels so far...on Lady Susan I read that it is her only (anti)heroine who doesn't have to learn lessons on life anymore :).

Thanks a bunch, Tara - if there is one thing Lady Susan shuns and loathes it is boredom, and that she wouldn't find by looking into the mirror :). This novel is maybe not considered in the league of her best works, but I admit I enjoyed reading this more than Sense & Sensibility, due to the entertaining villainess :).

Thanks a lot, david - you have just reminded me why I might generally not be that fond of parlour games, disliking to even try to master the rules :). That quote hit quite home to me...

Thanks a ton for your lovely compliment, Seemita, however far too much praise my friend, pretty sure I wouldn't even try, as I would get bored from my own ramblings before having reached page three. I'll firmly stick to reading as much as I can:). O that wicked woman would have mercilessly laughed, at once detecting the onlooker's weak spots, as isn't an allergic reaction on her frivolous behaviour saying much about the one dismissing it, close to admiration in spite of one's will?

Incidentally, apropos our little rencontre over Ali Smith recently, I read an interview with AS in which she was asked who her favourite literary heroine is, and to my absolute delight she said Emma Woodhouse, one of Austen's finest creations. I seem to detect that you haven't yet read Emma, so perhaps she might be allowed onto your to-read list? :-)"
Thank you so much, Helle! She might have been a very keen observer of the people around her, her intuition and imagination for what ate the human heart seemed even better developed. Such characters as Lady Susan indeed perfect to modify a certain image that Austen might have gotten from - no less entertaining - costumed films :). And on Emma, thank you for sharing that wonderful Ali Smith moment, she is firmly on my to-read list (at least the one in my mind) and your opinion she is such a fine creation will get me to her rather sooner than later!

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this book.

Thank you very much, Kalliope! What a delight it was to read this book. I thought Austen's finesse in creating this cunning character marvellous. Noticing your five stars, I am ver happy we are on the same page about it!


Austen must have been such a sharp youngster sitting in at gatherings of her large extended family, and watching how everyone behaved - and misbehaved. She definitely knew more of the world than her heroines did - with the exception of the unforgettable Lady Susan!
I think I read this when I was 'not yet twenty', so one of these years, I'll reread her letters.