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The Nix by Nathan  Hill
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Reader*,

The Nix is exactly the type of novel I dread reviewing: one that has many good moments, some truly great moments, but is a letdown most consistently.

Though my background is in science and medicine, my heart will always be with the written word. I may not have an extensive academic background in literature, but I do try and make up for it with an avid reading habit, dipping my toes into various styles and genres. So, although I might not be the foremost authority, I think I can pick the good from the bad with relative internal consistency.

It was a surprise, then, that The Nix first astonished me only to leave me frustrated with its monotony. It is also my hope that my suggestion that we read this book as our first book club-by-mail selection has not left you disenchanted with the concept. Indeed, it would perhaps be most interesting if your opinion differed from mine so as to stimulate discussion. But, I digress from an actual critique of the novel in question.

The Nix has a really appealing, and topical, premise: a woman is caught on video attacking a nationalist republican presidential candidate on the campaign trail. Samuel is tapped to write an expose on the mother who abandoned him as a child and her attack on the aforementioned presidential candidate. The dust-jacket sells you on a few other topics that tick the checkboxes for literary fiction award-winner candidates: magical realism, Vietnam War protest, intergenerational family saga, video game culture, and academia.

This hodgepodge of subject matter covered in The Nix earns author Nathan Hill book-selling quotes on the back of his book that are variants of the following:

”Grand in scope, sprawling, Dickensian. An achievement in the field that should be on every serious reader’s shelf.�
� “Hill pulls from the vast tapestry that has shaped modern America to build a moving novel for the internet age.�
� “Expansive, yet intimate, The Nix succeeds on every level.�


The scope and subject matter here sure make for an interesting tapestry in theory. However, in practice, the book failed to make this reader feel as if he were reading a cohesive work. Instead, it felt a bit like two or three books stitched together, and unfortunately, Hill leaves easily visible suture lines. He touches on all these different topics, jumping from a scene about the Chicago riots to a, I KID YOU NOT, 10-page sentence about quitting an massive multiplayer online game. Did you enjoy that scene? I was astonished only in that it continued on, page after page, and by the end of it seemed more a cute experiment than something that added something to the main thrust of the book.

But therein lies another problem: I’m not really sure what The Nix is trying to say. That in and of itself is not a problem: I love a book that makes me think, reflect, and even reread in order to grasp a message. However, the threads, plotlines, and diversions in The Nix muddled the meaning Hill tries to establish through his two main characters: Samuel and his mother, Faye.

At first I was compelled by kind-of-loser Samuel’s frustrations with his professorial career and the biting satire of today’s university atmosphere. For the first 100 pages or so, the book had me and I would have gladly continued on with satire of the election, university, and activism. Even though a few of these characters (namely, Laura Pottsdam) seem to be such gross caricatures that they sometimes butt against the realism of the novel.

Speaking frankly, the flashbacks to Samuel’s childhood and Faye’s coming of age didn’t do anything for me. They always seemed like diversions from the main story and it felt like Hill wanted to play around a bit in the late 60s with some different viewpoints. Of course, there’s some parallels drawn between the 1968 Chicago Vietnam War protests and the Occupy Movement/SJWs, which I enjoyed but didn’t seem fully developed. I’ll admit that I can’t quite put my finger on the message Hill’s trying to convey, but hopefully you’ve got some thoughts to bounce back and forth between us.

With all of that said, there’s quite a lot I enjoyed in this book. There were paragraphs and passages that really impressed me throughout the read. Sentences that made me stop and go, Man, this guy’s got chops! Of course, finding these passages were rare treats amidst the drudgery of long passages where the characters spend a long time analyzing their thoughts, actions, and potential actions. Toward the book’s end I enjoyed the scenes set in Norway and, indeed, these scenes are the ones that rang most true to me.

For what has been a mostly negative review, I would easily pick up another book written by Hill. As I said before, the man can write, but The Nix loses focus so often that it doesn’t make for a tale that compelled me the whole way through. It is my hope that Hill will write something a bit shorter, a bit more focused, and tackle a few topics rather than a grocery list.

I’m really interested to hear what you thought of this one. I’ve read a few other reviews and I definitely seem to be in the minority. I’ll also confess to an exceptionally busy rotation that forced me to consume this book piecemeal, which might not be the best way to have handled it. The Nix is a book that I wouldn’t recommend to others, but was easily sold to me. I'm sure it'll be a contender for many awards this year and I wish it had done more for me.

Also, Samuel’s kind of a turd, didn’t you think?

Cheers,
Matt

*This review was written as a letter to my good friend, Grant Carson, as we embark upon a semi-regular book-club by distance.
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Reading Progress

September 5, 2016 – Shelved
September 5, 2016 – Shelved as: to-read
February 26, 2017 – Started Reading
March 2, 2017 –
page 50
8.0% "I'm painfully busy with work, which is a shame because this book has me hooked. Can't wait to have some time to give it proper attention."
March 10, 2017 –
page 230
36.8% "Still working on this when I grab a spare moment. The writing is great and the book has been trading sections about today's privileged university students with childhood reminiscence, then video game culture, then Vietnam War protest. Hopefully I'll get to sit down for a long read this weekend post-call."
March 18, 2017 –
page 465
74.4% "Well. Surprisingly, this book has been dragging over the last week and 200+ pages. There are parts I enjoy, but I'm not terribly invested in the cast. I'll have a more coherent set of thoughts for the review."
March 25, 2017 – Shelved as: big-books-500-pages-plus
March 25, 2017 – Finished Reading

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Sharon Wow, wonderful review, Matthew. Coming off a book I didn't enjoy too much but everyone else seemed to love ("News of the World"), I know it can be disappointing not to love a book as much as you want to.

I'm glad for your review. "The Nix" is on my list for this year; your insights balance out some of the highly-favorable reviews and allows me to go in with a healthy dose of caution, skepticism, and more of an open-mind reboot.

I must admit; I'm still intrigued. Quitting the multi-player game over the span of 10 pages could be an eye-roller or lol-funny. :)


Matt Quann Sharon wrote: "Wow, wonderful review, Matthew. Coming off a book I didn't enjoy too much but everyone else seemed to love ("News of the World"), I know it can be disappointing not to love a book as much as you wa..."

Thanks for the comment Sharon! It really is disappointing when a book doesn't do for you what you were hoping. I think that The Nix might be one of those books that a lot of others seem to love, but does nothing for me. You might be pleasantly surprised!

The 10-page sentence was definitely the most frustrating part of this whole read!


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Christina Pilkington Just finished reading a book that made me feel the same way. Nice review! I was going to read this book because I head heard there was going to be a movie made about it, but now I'm not so sure.


Matt Quann I just commented on your review of Everfair! It seems like we had the same experience with different books. I've heard about the film adaptation and, well, I think it might work better on the screen than the page. I look forward to seeing whatever the director does with it.


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Christina Pilkington Lol! Yep, Everfair was the book I was talking about in my comment above. Maybe this will be one of the rare exceptions when the movie is better than the book.


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Barbara Love the format of book club letter! Very clever. I had this one on the TBR shelf. Maybe I should reconsider! Clever and enjoyable review Matthew


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Matthias Was it a handwritten letter? Great review by the way, even though it was for a book you didn't enjoy reviewing.


Matt Quann Matthias wrote: "Was it a handwritten letter? Great review by the way, even though it was for a book you didn't enjoy reviewing."

Thanks Matthias! Sometimes I'll send a handwritten letter, but where I already had this one typed, I just printed it off.

Barbara wrote: "Love the format of book club letter! Very clever. I had this one on the TBR shelf. Maybe I should reconsider! Clever and enjoyable review Matthew"

I would still give it a try Barbara, a lot of people have enjoyed this one!


Steve I think you're right, Matthew, that a tighter focus will help. The fact that you're open to picking up a future Hill novel says something. My guess is that a second effort won't feel as much like he's trying so hard to cram every one of his ideas in.


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Matt Quann Steve wrote: "I think you're right, Matthew, that a tighter focus will help. The fact that you're open to picking up a future Hill novel says something. My guess is that a second effort won't feel as much like h..."

Thanks Steve, I was worried that my review would be off-putting to a lot of people that loved this novel. The book does have that feel of an author trying to cram every thought he's ever had into a single work, doesn't it? Not only am I open to trying more Hill in the future, I plan on reading whatever he puts out next just to see if I connect with it as so many have with The Nix.


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Lata Great review! I've been on the fence about this book, not sure if I should read it or not. I think I may well reconsider reading it.


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Matt Quann Lata wrote: "Great review! I've been on the fence about this book, not sure if I should read it or not. I think I may well reconsider reading it."

Thanks Lata! If it were a shorter book I'd say go for it, but since it is so long it makes for a bit of a daunting reading project. As always, my problem with a big unsatisfying book is that I could have read two or three books in the time it took me to read just one.


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Claudia Putnam Yup, a turd. I laid the book aside. I didn't even hang in for 100 pages.


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Matt Quann Claudia wrote: "Yup, a turd. I laid the book aside. I didn't even hang in for 100 pages."

I think the first 100 pages were my favourite and I didn't even love those ones. Probably a good call to jump ship!


Cindy So glad to read a review that says exactly what I've been thinking. It's hard to be the naysayer when everyone is raving up and down about the book, so thank you for being brave and honest. Hill is an amazing writer, but his tangents go on so long that it's easy to tune out (I'm doing the audio version) until he gets back to a character or plot line that is more interesting. It's like Hill had a bunch of great material
and he felt compelled to cram it all into one book. That video game passage was almost the end of the road for me. It was so unnecessary in the scheme of things.


Shelli Exactly how I felt - thank you!


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Matt Quann Shelli wrote: "Exactly how I felt - thank you!"

No problem Shelli! It can be nice to have your opinion corroborated!

Cindy wrote: "So glad to read a review that says exactly what I've been thinking. It's hard to be the naysayer when everyone is raving up and down about the book, so thank you for being brave and honest. Hill is..."

Thanks a lot for your kind comments Cindy! I always try my best to give as honest a review as possible but, more importantly, one that remains true to my experience of the novel. In the end, these are our opinions and it makes sense for them to vary.


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Claudia Putnam I don't need characters to be likeable, but boring and whiney and alienated... well, who needs those people?


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Ned Informative insights Matthew.


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Peter I'm heading out, but want to read your very detailed review. So many have recommended this book to me. Rarely do I see a negative reveiw. But I love negative reviews. You learn more from the one stars than from the five stars, for me at least.


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*TANYA* Great honest review!!! I'm gonna pass on this one. 😉


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Matt Quann Cheers Ned, Peter, and Tanya! I really wanted to like this one but I was ultimately disappointed. I'll still watch the JJ Abrams adaptation though!


Colleen G Thanks for your review Matthew. I completely agree with you. I enjoyed the many stories relating to the twins, except for Samuels reunion with Bethany as adults.
Anything to do with the “Elfscape� game is painfully long & arduous, I can’t deal with that.
This book is so choppy and all over the place. If I weren’t 85% done, I’d quit but I’m dying to know, what happens in the end between Samuel & his mother?
So, back to the book I go!


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Matt Quann Aw man, @Colleen, I know the feeling when you are so close to the end of a book that you've got to finish whether you're suffering or not. There's some good stuff at the end with Sam and his mom. Hope you find some stuff to take from it


Rachel I completely agree with you. This book was ‘work� for me to read. I only finished because I wanted to know what happened with Samuel and his mother.


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Matt Quann @Rachel, sometimes I don’t mind putting in work for a proper payoff, but I never felt like my effort was worth it with the Nix. There’s some fun passages littered in amidst the drudgery, but it doesn’t make up for making a few weeks of reading feel like a chore.


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LISA Oh my God I feel like I am going crazy I am listening to this book I am at hour 11 of 21 hours. To me it is just torture ---
because it's a book club book I will finish it.


I don't understand the hype I don't understand all the great reviews & I feel like I am from another planet.


Caroline Gill This review definitely sums up how I felt about this book! Hill is clearly a great writer--he has this ability to be clever without being pretentious, which isn't the easiest thing to do. I really enjoyed the first half of this book, the interesting structural elements, etc. but when I was 500, 600 pages in I realized it wasn't really going anywhere. The narrative didn't progress at all the way I was expecting, and in my opinion, didn't lead to a meaningful conclusion. It wasn't delivering on the premise. After I realized this, the last 200 pages were tough to get through. I will say though that I really loved the Elfscape parts. It was authentic and funny. But perhaps belongs in a different book?


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Matt Quann LISA wrote: "Oh my God I feel like I am going crazy I am listening to this book I am at hour 11 of 21 hours. To me it is just torture ---
because it's a book club book I will finish it.


I don't understand t..."


I think there's something that people are connecting with in this book that others are missing. I appreciate that folks are finding things to like, but it was a real struggle for me!


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Matt Quann Caroline wrote: "This review definitely sums up how I felt about this book! Hill is clearly a great writer--he has this ability to be clever without being pretentious, which isn't the easiest thing to do. I really ..."

I've shared a few of the Elfscape scenes out of context with my friends who are huge gamers. They've said that Hill does a great job connecting with that subculture, and I've argued that he would have better spent his energy focusing on that alone.

Caroline, I also totally agree that the book's interesting quirks at the start of the novel tarnish quickly after the first 200 pages or so. For me, there was also the feeling that nothing was ever moving towards resolution, and I found that frustrating.


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Good review. I had to skim the last 100 pages just to get through it. The last half of the book was boring, which was too bad. The first two parts really grabbed me.


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Matt Quann Lisa wrote: "Good review. I had to skim the last 100 pages just to get through it. The last half of the book was boring, which was too bad. The first two parts really grabbed me."

Thanks Lisa! There were parts that were genuinely great in the book, but they were few and far between for me.

On that note, I've been trying to give away my copy of the book since so many people seem to love it. Unfortunately, "I didn't like this book, but you might" isn't the best sales pitch!


Kefranks I just finished The Nix and wrote a review before looking at any of the others. I was surprised it got so many 5 star reviews. But I was glad to see yours and whole heartedly agree with you. I did not enjoy the 10 page run on sentence about quitting the video game. Nor did I enjoy the many other run on sentences. I do think it would make a good movie or mini-series if it focused on the main story of Samuel and his mom's back-story.


Cathal Completely agree with this review


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Matt Quann Kefranks wrote: "I just finished The Nix and wrote a review before looking at any of the others. I was surprised it got so many 5 star reviews. But I was glad to see yours and whole heartedly agree with you. I did ..."

Thanks, Kefranks! Sorry for the late reply, but it must have snuck under my notification radar.

You know, I'm actually with you that I'd like to see this story play out in a different medium. I could see a miniseries actually working pretty well.


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Matt Quann Cathal wrote: "Completely agree with this review"

Thanks, Cathal!


Sippy currently reading it. Enjoyable, but not unputdownable so far... I may have the same problem with the sidetracking and wanting to get back to an overarching story.... 🤔


Jonna This sums it up for me. I found myself skimming over large portions of this book. Much of the book seemed superfluous to the main storyline. I think 200 pages could easily have been edited out. And I agree ... Samuel is kind of a turd.


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Matt Quann Jonna wrote: "This sums it up for me. I found myself skimming over large portions of this book. Much of the book seemed superfluous to the main storyline. I think 200 pages could easily have been edited out. And..."

Sorry you had to experience it too, but glad to have someone who's on the same page. Cheers, Jonna!


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Matt Quann Sippy wrote: "currently reading it. Enjoyable, but not unputdownable so far... I may have the same problem with the sidetracking and wanting to get back to an overarching story.... 🤔"

It's a bit of a disappointment in that regard, Sippy. Hopefully whatever he does next is a bit more focused.


Sippy I am not sure I will read that. Depends on the rest of this book of which I read close to 400 pages now... 🤔


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Matt Quann Sippy wrote: "I am not sure I will read that. Depends on the rest of this book of which I read close to 400 pages now... 🤔"

I hear you there, Sippy! I usually read a long book and then ease off with a few short ones.


Suzanne Thank you! I am not alone. It was exhausting!


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 Jafar I thought it was very slow. Introduced characters that had nothing to do with the plot. Scattered all around and included too many topics but none was delved in to deeply enough. Many characters did not add anything to the story. I still can’t understand why she left her little boy. The reasons given were not strong enough or convincing. Her attack of the public figure comes with not enough background or buildup.


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Alex I agree. It was too disjointed for my liking, and many situations bordered on ridiculous (or crossed over, I'd say).


message 46: by Cliff (new) - rated it 1 star

Cliff Stammers Yep. Am about 420 pages in. I will persevere, but what started out as being really promising is proving to be over long and unnecessarily indulgent. Shame. He can clearly write, but in half as many pages would make it so much better. Reviewer Matt sums it up perfectly.


Vilma Glad I found this review. I felt exhausted after finally finishing this book.


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