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Mrs Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
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Read 2 times. Last read October 26, 2016.

Virginia Woolf I hate you.

There I said it. Some authors you just don’t get on with, and Woolf is right down the bottom of my shit list. I’ve got quite a few reasons why:

Artistic slaying

So there’s a trend with each and every new artistic movement which involves pissing all over the one that came before it. The newness asserts its dominance by destroying the old; it’s happened many times over history in all forms of artifice, whether it be literature, music, paintings or media in today’s society. The point is Virginia Woolf is a bitch. Here’s what she says about my beloved Jane Austen:

“Anyone who has the temerity to write about Jane Austen is aware of [two] facts: first, that of all great writers she is the most difficult to catch in the act of greatness; second, that there are twenty-five elderly gentlemen living in the neighbourhood of London who resent any slight upon her genius as if it were an insult to the chastity of their aunts�- from A Room of One's Own.

And then this:

“With their simple tools and primitive materials, it might be said, Fielding did well and Jane Austen even better, but compare their opportunities with ours! Their masterpieces certainly have a strange air of simplicity� -from Modern Fiction.

Pffft�..Is this woman for real? Don't worry Austen, I've got your back.

Her Style (or lack thereof)

So Virginia Woolf is one of the defining authors of the modernist movement; she wrote the manifesto and she wrote some of the novels. Some would even argue that she is modernism, but is that a good thing? As a cultural movement, I find modernism slightly disturbing. I’m a romantic at heart, I believe in the idealism of Percy Shelley, Wordsworth’s vison of nature and Coleridge’s imagination; thus, I feel like I am naturally predisposed to react negatively towards the movement. Is this reader response theory at work? Yes it is, I’ve warned you I’m incredibly bias towards this.

It focuses on a more suburban way of life, and analyses the relationship between humans and the city. Therefore, we have pages and pages of material in which the characters wonder round the streets looking at random things. They observe the sights and they observe each other in a stream of mundane consciousness. They remark on nature and almost, almost, compare it to this new modern life. And this is where I throw my book at the wall. How could the two even be put together in a paragraph? The words Virginia Woolf uses to describe these things are ill at ease in my mind: they don’t belong here:

“Beauty, the world seemed to say. And as if to prove it (scientifically) wherever he looked at the houses, at the railings, at the antelopes stretching over the palings, beauty sprang instantly. To watch a leaf quivering in the rush of air was an exquisite joy. Up in the sky swallows swooping, swerving, flinging themselves in and out, round and round, yet always with perfect control as if elastics held them; and the flies rising and falling; and the sun spotting now this leaf, now that, in mockery, dazzling it with soft gold in pure good temper; and now again some chime (it might be a motor horn) tinkling divinely on the grass stalks—all of this, calm and reasonable as it was, made out of ordinary things as it was, was the truth now; beauty, that was the truth now. Beauty was everywhere.�

Is city life natural? Can we really describe a city in these terms? Woolf proposes to capture the real essence of life; this passage here isn’t life: it feels false. Who walks through a city sees a leaf and is enamoured by its beauty. No one. Step outside the city and experience life in the true Wordsworth fashion, visit the lakes see the trees, and see real nature. Granted, the Romantics made it sound sublime, but they captured the heart of it: they didn’t combine city life, with its connotations of ordinariness and industry, with the real essence of nature.

Real life is dull

So Woolf attempts (cough cough) to capture real life, modernism was said to be more real than realism. This isn’t some exciting plot or twisted love story or gothic drama: this is a book about a woman who hosts a very dull party. She walks round the city a few times making some disjointed descriptions, ponders a shell shocked victim, realises she never fulfilled her repressed lesbian desires, notices that the prime minister is in fact an ordinary man (shock horror- hold onto your seats!) and that’s it. So this new modern thing then, is it good?

In the case of this book, no, it’s not. It takes more than a rejection of literary norms to establish greatness. I’ve read modernists next since this one and I’ve actually enjoyed them. Sometimes I feel like Woolf didn’t know quite what she wanted when she wrote this, I feel like other writers adhere closer to her manifesto than she does herself. And, well, they don’t attack Austen.

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Reading Progress

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October 5, 2016 – Shelved
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October 26, 2016 – Shelved as: 1-star-reads
October 26, 2016 – Shelved as: classics
October 26, 2016 – Finished Reading
November 30, 2016 – Shelved as: modernist-movement

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Agnes ✨ It's quite interesting, if you give it you whole focus and mind. We read it our literature class.


Sean Barrs Agnes wrote: "It's quite interesting, if you give it you whole focus and mind. We read it our literature class."

I think I'm going to try the audio book (I never do this) but I think this demands to be heard.


Mary I read it once and didn't like it either, I can't wait to have your opinion on your second try.


Sean Barrs Mary wrote: "I read it once and didn't like it either, I can't wait to have your opinion on your second try."

I hate her. That's all of I've got!


BrokenTune Woolf is just one of those authors that i cannot do. I tried re-reading To the Lighthouse but it is just so painful to try and get invested in a story that makes you question with every page if there isn't something else you should be doing....

Orlando was fun, Mrs D was kinda meh, but To the Lighthouse is my breaking point. By the quotes you included from A Room of One's Own, I should remove it from my tbr, too.


message 6: by Ned (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ned I like it.


message 7: by Marcia (new)

Marcia Letaw Even if Woolf sucks, she seems to have brought out greatness in you, Sean. Yes, I loved reading your review. Just now I'm reading a book by Piglia (Artificial Respiration), well it's supposed to be a novel but mostly it seems to be literary criticism with comments about Borges being so 19th century, and I love Borges! He's timeless; he doesn't fit in a box just like all great art and music and writing refuses to be boxed up. Thanks again for the review; now I can throw my book at the wall or take it back to the library.


Sean Barrs Luís wrote: "Woolf has a strange mysticism. I like her very much! And her books!"

I'm glad you do. I don't get on with her ;)


Sean Barrs Kjell wrote: "I think Woolf was very full of herself, and a nasty snob."

Down with Woolf! ;)


Sean Barrs Marcia wrote: "Even if Woolf sucks, she seems to have brought out greatness in you, Sean. Yes, I loved reading your review. Just now I'm reading a book by Piglia (Artificial Respiration), well it's supposed to be..."

Glad you liked the review. She just sets of the inner Romantic in me. I've filled my head with their ideas, and when I see hers it antagonises me.

Throwing books at the wall is always fun, but I feel strangely guilty afterwards! :)


Sean Barrs BrokenTune wrote: "Woolf is just one of those authors that i cannot do. I tried re-reading To the Lighthouse but it is just so painful to try and get invested in a story that makes you question with every page if the..."

I have to read Jacobs room later on in the year, I'm not looking forward to it!


BrokenTune Bookworm Sean wrote: "BrokenTune wrote: "Woolf is just one of those authors that i cannot do. I tried re-reading To the Lighthouse but it is just so painful to try and get invested in a story that makes you question wit..."

My commiserations. :(


Jeanette I happened to be quite on your page. You noted something here that was essential- that "humans in the city" quotient was spot on. It's a red flag for the "we think" eyes- and there is a HUGE negative in that very assumption. But it's popular and common. You avoided that pit. Kudos. Woolf was a so full of herself that she noted every aspect I often urge to ignore.


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She does sound like a boring bitch... sorry. :)


Sean Barrs Kjell wrote: "I have to read it soon... For uni blehhh xD"

Only reason I got through it twice. Its on my modernist module.


Sean Barrs Adriana ♩♪ wrote: "She does sound like a boring bitch... sorry. :)"

It's true! :)


Sean Barrs Jeanette wrote: "I happened to be quite on your page. You noted something here that was essential- that "humans in the city" quotient was spot on. It's a red flag for the "we think" eyes- and there is a HUGE negati..."

It's slightly overkill at places. It works in her short story "key gardens" but here it is weird.


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Lyn nice


Margaret I hear you, Sean, but I don't agree here. Expand, expand, expand. I find Woolf (the writer, not the person) wonderful and innovative in her time. She and her exact age-mate (1882-1941), James Joyce, renovated literary art profoundly. One can adore Shelley and Austen (as I do) and still love Woolf.


Sean Barrs Luís wrote: "Margaret wrote: "I hear you, Sean, but I don't agree here. Expand, expand, expand. I find Woolf (the writer, not the person) wonderful and innovative in her time. She and her exact age-mate (1882-1..."

Glad you like her :)

But I can't like everyone. Woolf isn't for me.


Sean Barrs Margaret wrote: "I hear you, Sean, but I don't agree here. Expand, expand, expand. I find Woolf (the writer, not the person) wonderful and innovative in her time. She and her exact age-mate (1882-1941), James Joyce..."


I wondered if you'd comment on this. I remembered your profile pic being Virginia Woolf! :)

And she was very innovative, I just don’t like her innovations. She doesn’t do it for me. As a reader I do have my own biases in some regards and Woolf sets them off. I do recognise that she is one of the greatest writers of twentieth century, but I can’t personally like everything.

And as for Joyce, I’ve not read his works yet. I’m reading Dubliners soon. So it’ll be interesting to see how I get on with that.


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Choko Amazing and passionate review and I loved it! Thank you!!!


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Ah ha ha ha ha ha. I'm absolutely in stitches. Stitches I say!


Nathan This is literally the truest review ever.


Alfred Evans this review is incredibly stupid and up itself.

Is city life natural? Can we really describe a city in these terms?

In what way is Woolf presenting it as 'natural'? whatever that means. Of course we can describe the city in these terms, it's a question which seems to be searching but actually contains very little of substance and is a shoddy attempt at criticism.

Woolf proposes to capture the real essence of life; this passage here isn’t life: it feels false. Who walks through a city sees a leaf and is enamoured by its beauty.

So life isn't real unless lived through some romantic's bucolic imagination? Do you love the beauty of nature for what it is or do you like the idea presented in romantic poetry? It seems absurd and rather philistine to say the play between light and object can only be beautiful in a specific environment. I see no difference whether it involves the leaves in a London park, the dome of a cathedral or the foam of a crashing wave.

If anything the romantics can be seen to be false. A reaction against the griminess of industrialisation and urbanisation yes, but not the essence of many individuals lived experience.


Sean Barrs Alfred wrote: "this review is incredibly stupid and up itself.

Is city life natural? Can we really describe a city in these terms?

In what way is Woolf presenting it as 'natural'? whatever that means. Of cours..."


Criticism? This is simply my opinion. I welcome discussion, but when someone attempts to insult me I just ignore them and don't partake.


Alfred Evans a bit touchy aren't you?


Sean Barrs Alfred wrote: "a bit touchy aren't you?"

what did you expect?


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Tina Ambury I'm with you Sean.
I _really_ struggled reading Orlando so decided to give Woolf another chance. I am listening to the audiobook read by Juliet Stevenson whose voice is joy to experience but even she can't redeem Woolf.
She is so opinionated and full of herself. There are snatches of insight and the cadence of the words when spoken aloud is rhythmic and at times soporific but so boring.
This shall be my last Woolf. If she was truly the birth of a movement, thank goodness the novel evolved.


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She didn't exactly piss all over older literature. Woolf was very well read and praised writers like Tolstoy, Eliot etc. She just saw that there was more that could be done. She was just picking up where they left off. Also to quote Woolf on Austen: "Never did any novelist make more use of an impeccable sense of human values."


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Christine Lamoreaux If I could choose the face to adorn every dart board it would be hers. Bravo to you and your spot on review. I cannot abide her.


Paula Fontrubí Just because you don't like her it doesn't mean that she was wrong. First of all: she saw beauty everywhere, even in the most ordinary places, that's the whole point of the pharagraf. Second: there is no need for a twisted plot, when it comes to writing about life. Because life is a story itself. And when you see through people and things the way Woolf did, you don't need any other ornament. And last but not least: Woolf about Austen: "Here was a woman about the year 1800 writing without hate, without bitterness, without fear, without protest, without preaching. That was how Shakespeare wrote." It seems to be that she rather admired her.


message 33: by Sandy (new) - rated it 1 star

Sandy Beynon I was so looking forward to delving into one of her books and sadly disappointed with it. There are some beautiful descriptions but for me I found the majority of it dull and could not finish which is rare for me. Perhaps I will go back to it and try again as I would like to see if there is more written about the Smiths.


Alexei Díaz Vera I chose to read this book because it seemed to be her most popular work. I liked a few passages. I had very high expectations because I've read somewhere (wikipedia?) that she criticized Dickens's characters for being too shallow and I love Dickens work.

I think Dickens manages to widely describe human nature, his novels might be centered in a culture, country or even within a city, but his characters are universal not only geographically but across time, we can see today his characters in real life. Mrs. Dalloway manages to describe a day in the London society and with a few exceptions (1?) there are rich people with rich people problems.

I just don't see the need (neither support) from her to say such things from Dickens's characters. I liked Mrs. Dalloway but I wouldn't read it again, specially after reading this review ;) Looks like she is better at saying that other authors don't write well than at writing itself.


Yimmy You brought way too much baggage to the book and missed basically everything. You wrote a description of all that happens in the book as if the book was entirely through the eyes of Mrs. Dalloway. That's not the case. It's almost like you didn't read it. There's no point in reading a book you are pissed off about reading. In the end, you wind up writing a review like this.


message 36: by Sean (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sean Maybe next time you could actually review the book!


João Atílio Fortunato Apparently she was right about the fans resenting any slight insult to jane austen.


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Destini This cracked me up!!!! I dont like Woolf either- also noone attacks my beloved Jane Austen!


message 39: by Alex (new) - rated it 5 stars

Alex I can see why someone could dislike the novel, but, judging from the passage you used to illustrate your point that her writing "feels false," I'm not sure how well you understood the novel in the first place. That passage is from the point of view of Septimus Smith, a WWI veteran who is suffering from severe PTSD. The whole point of his character is that he is losing grasp on reality. He hallucinates his dead friend. He thinks nature is talking to him. He experiences moments of euphoria (this passage) followed by moments of despair. This passage is meant to "feel false."


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Sophiaworld @Alexei Eleusis
Dickens characters are shallow? excuse me. Now this is going to end even before it can start. You can know much about an author just by the way he opinioned his fellow-mates.
Sean, sir, thanks for the review


Molly "Some authors you just don't get on with" exactly how I feel about Dickens


Hilly Thank you for this review.


Joseph Shallow review.


Giannis You are writing a review about a book and you start by saying how much of bitch the author was, which even after the quotes you give, I don't agree upon. Jane Austen was simplistic, that's true for me. And if you grasp what Woolf does in her work, then, what can you say about Austen?


message 45: by Marisa (new)

Marisa You complaining about Virginia Woolf insulting presumably one of your favorites then proceding to insult other people’s favorite author is so funny to me, and quite frankly also very hypocritical. If you are gonna argue that yours is just an “opinion� then oh well, I guess hers was “just an opinion� as well.


message 46: by Akshima (new) - added it

Akshima im in the beginning and i find it sooo bokring. im skipping the long discriptions about the city and your comment made me to give up this book but you mentioned lesbian desire,so here i am, a lesbian reading a book i hate to get to the part of lesbian desires lol


message 47: by Carl (new) - rated it 5 stars

Carl Creighton lol that quote about Jane Austen was about you


Samia I love how you gave this book 2 stars then went on to not even review the book. And you are so pissed off because you read something when Woolf has praised Austen on so many other accounts. Like write about the book maybe?


Jeanette Oh, I think he did review the book. And also his reaction.

The quote was actually quite representative of Woolf. I'll never understand why people get so defensive and sometimes mean when others don't like the same books or authors that they do. It's juvenile and frankly close minded . I so agree with his observations about city life and life in general within reaction too.

I'm old. I've seen many new fades of "wisdom" etc. Some of the most popular authors are insufferable. Some like their attitudes. Some don't. What skin is it off anyone's nose to not appreciate the same things.

And Molly, I'm another Dickens hater. From Day 1. What a melodramatic diva times 10. His people are angels or the worst demons imaginable. Stereotypes.

But some people just eat that stuff up. Woolf is not for all tastes in any way.


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Joey You’re crazy!!


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