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Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
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it was amazing
bookshelves: faves, notorious, personal-mythology, meta-review
Read 2 times. Last read January 1, 1983.

WARNING: This review contains a discussion of the c-word, and I plan to use it. Please don't read this if you do not want to see the word spelled out. Thanks.

This is less a review than an homage to my crazy mother (now I have you really intrigued, don't I?)

It was 1983, and I was in my first Catholic school. I'd spent my first six years of school in a public school, but my "behavioral issues" coupled with my lack of growth made me a target for bullies, so my parents were advised to move me to another school where no one knew me.

So off I went to the home room of a fallen nun, who'd given up her habit for a family. She wasn't much of a teacher. She was an old school Catholic educator who practiced punitive teaching, which included kicks to the shins, yanking of ears, pulling of hair, and screaming from close range.

I kept my head down and tried to blend in with my new surroundings, but my Mother made that difficult from the get go. I was a voracious reader, and she passed on the disease to me. From grade two on she had been recommending great books to me. I was reading everything before most everyone else, but my Mom's recommendation of Lady Chatterly's Lover in my first month of Catholic school was probably her most outrageous and unforgettable recommendation.

She bought me a copy at the book store in the mall, and that's where I met one of my favourite words of all time -- cunt.

Back in 1983, cunt was not a word in your average child's vocabulary. Sure we'd heard it, and maybe even seen it, but it was not something that was regularly used by kids, and its usage was pretty vague to every 13 year old I knew.

But there it was in Lady Chatterly's Lover. It was all over the place. So as I read the story and absorbed the way Lawrence used cunt, his usage became my usage. Lawrence used cunt beautifully; it was not a term of denigration; it was not used to belittle; it was not an insult nor something to be ashamed of; cunt was lyrical, romantic, caring, intimate. And I came to believe that cunt was meant to be used in all these ways. That the poetic use of cunt was the accepted use of cunt, the correct use of cunt, and suddenly cunt was part of my vocabulary.

I was thirteen.

Now I didn't just start running around using cunt at every opportunity. I did what I always did with new words that I came to know and love. I added them to my vocabulary and used them when I thought it was appropriate.

And when I whispered it to Tammy, the girl I had a crush on, a few weeks later, thinking that it was the sort of romantic, poetic language that made women fall in love with their men (I can't remember what I said with it, but I know it was something very much like what Mellors would have said to Constance), she turned around with a deep blush, a raised eyebrow and a "That's disgusting" that rang through the class (I can still see the red of autumn leaves that colored her perfectly alabaster skin under a shock of curly black hair, aaaah...Tammy. Apparently she had a better sense of cunt's societal taboos than I did). Mrs. C--- was on her feet and standing parallel to the two of us in a second, demanding to know what was going on.

To her credit, Tammy tried to save me -- sort of. She said "Nothing." Then Mrs. C--- turned on me; I was completely mortified (I'd obviously blown it with the first girl I loved in junior high school), and while I was in this shrinking state, Mrs. C--- demanded to know what was happening and what I had said.

I tried to avoid repeating what I had said. I admitted I shouldn't have been talking. I admitted that I should have been working. I tried to divert her attention. But she was a scary lady, and I couldn't help myself. I repeated what I had said -- as quietly as I could -- but as soon as Mrs. C--- heard "cunt" I was finished. That was the moment I knew "cunt" was the catalyst for the whole debacle.

Now...I'd known before that the word was taboo, but I didn't think it would generate the response it did. I really thought that Tammy would be flattered. And I certainly didn't expect that I would be dragged to the office by an angry ex-nun. Silly me.

I got the strap. It was the first time (although there would be another). Three lashes to the palm of the hand.

I didn't use "cunt" in public or private for a long time after that, but my punishment couldn't diminish my love for the word. Lawrence made such and impression on my young mind that neither humiliation nor physical pain could overcome my appreciation of cunt's poetic qualities.

To me the word is and always will be a beautiful and, yes, gentle thing.

Every time that event was recounted at the dinner table over the years, whether it was amongst family, or with my girlfriends or my future wife, my Mom always got this sly little grin on her face and indulged in a mischievous giggle before refusing to take the blame for me getting the strap. After all, "Who was the one who was stupid enough to use the word, Brad? Not me."

I love her response as much as I love the word.

And in case you were wondering, my Mom never stopped recommending books to me. She was an absolute kook. I miss her.

I can't wait to pass on Lady Chatterly's Lover to my kids...but I think it's going to have to be in grade three if it's going to have the same effect it had on me...hmmm...I wonder how that will go over.
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January 1, 1983 – Finished Reading
March 25, 2008 – Shelved
April 3, 2008 – Shelved as: faves
September 13, 2008 – Shelved as: notorious
April 21, 2009 – Shelved as: personal-mythology
September 27, 2009 – Shelved as: meta-review

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message 1: by Manny (new)

Manny I love this story! A couple of questions:

- Have you read Atonement?

- Did you ever discuss the incident with Tammy when she was grown-up?



message 2: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan I hate the word cunt (even after seeing and reading The Vagina Monologues) but I loved your review.


message 3: by Trevor (new)

Trevor This was inspired - thanks. I'm going to forward it to my mum who will get a smile out of it.


Brad Manny wrote: "Have you read Atonement?" Indeed I have, and I couldn't stop thinking about my moment with "that word" the whole time Briony was destroying Robbie. I never for a second questioned the power of that word while I was reading Atonement.

Manny also wrote: "Did you ever discuss the incident with Tammy when she was grown-up?"

No, I lost touch with her years ago, and have never been able to find her, even with things like Facebook. I would love to talk to her about it now. I'd love to see her now, although maybe it's better to remember her as a thirteen year old. Still, I'd love to tell her my story after all these years so she could see what a life of its own that event has had for the last quarter century.

Thanks, Abigail. I've been meaning to add Cunt: A Declaration of Independence to my to-read list, so I better go do that.

Thanks to you too, Lisa. I am glad my review overcame your hatred for the word (and I do understand the hatred, even if my own strange experience means I don't share it).

I hope your Mum gets a smile, Trevor. What did she get you to read, I wonder?


message 5: by M (last edited Apr 15, 2009 06:26PM) (new)

M Amazing review!

I had a Scottish friend in college, recently arrived in the states, who used the word as an all-purpose verbal filler. It only took him about 8 months, and almost as many slaps, and about 30-40 times that quantity of angry retorts, to weed cunt from his unconscious repertoire. And, strangely, it was only as his accent faded to a thinner Glaswegian that the word really disappeared....


message 6: by Brad (last edited Apr 15, 2009 07:36PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad It's funny that you mention Glaswegians, Mike. My sister lived in Glasgow for five years (off and on), and when her great friend Austin came to visit us over here in Canada he did as Scots do and used cunt every second word -- at the dinner table -- where I was prompted by the family to recount this very story for him. And, well, you know how my Mom responded. Austin, however, couldn't understand the fuss.


Alan What a great mum. Mine only gave me Catherine Cookson books.


message 8: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Buckley Swearing is actually discriminatory behaviour. There are some people you can use certain words in front of; and other people you cannot. The different weight given (in the UK) to "b" words, the "f" word and the "c" word provides the system with a certain finesse.

I love the story!


message 9: by Adam (new)

Adam Wonderful story, Brad. I had a Scottish friend who didn't exactly pepper his speech with the "c" word, but he certainly didn't think using it was a very big deal. "Fanny," on the other hand (which, at least at that time in the U.K., did not mean "bum" or "arse") would literally make him blush to say.


message 10: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad I had to go look up that other meaning for "fanny" in the U.K.. My oh my. I can see his discomfort.


message 11: by Adam (new)

Adam His discomfort and subsequent explanation had an upside, however, at least for me. A day or two later I was walking down the street and thought back to an interview with Shirley Manson (the singer from Garbage) I'd read in a magazine years earlier. She described her first sexual experience (something about being a preteen at a party ... I don't really remember). She ended the story by saying, "But I didn't take it in the fanny until I was 16." I was like, "Damn, that's pretty hardcore, Shirley."

But after my Scottish friend's clarification I had one of those "Ah ... I get it now" moments.


message 12: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Hahaha! That is great, Adam. I can imagine her saying that and that makes the laugh even better.


message 13: by Trevor (last edited Apr 16, 2009 01:36PM) (new)

Trevor Fanny means the same here in Australia as it does in Britain. What complicates the matter, I think, is that it is a diminutive for the (favourite euphemism coming) female organs of increase. You could use fanny in polite conversation here, but not the c-word. There was an episode of MASH in which men were talking about what they fancied in women and someone said they were a leg man and then Hawkeye said, "I'm fanny man, myself". This is perhaps the only 'joke' I remember from any of the shows - and, oddly enough, it probably wasn't even meant as a joke. I had one of those moments were two thoughts were fighting it out over a very limited amount of brain space. One that was thinking, "Christ, I didn't know you could say that on television" and the other that was thinking, "Ultimately, aren't we all?"

And of course there is the joke about the woman coming home from the doctor and her husband asking how it went and her saying, "The doctor thinks I've got a pretty fanny." Her husband said, "He told you that, while he was examining you?" And she said, "Well, no, he said I had acute angina, but I knew what he meant."



message 14: by Alan (new) - rated it 3 stars

Alan I used to crack up when I heard Americans talking about fannybags etc (when I was younger obvioulsy). The other word that has a different meaning in the UK is pants. On shows Americans would say nice pair of pants etc and I'd think it's not just Superman they've all got X-ray vision.


message 15: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Buckley Alan wrote: "The other word that has a different meaning in the UK is pants. On shows Americans would say ni..."
You open up a whole discussion. I once astonished a female friend from North American by asking if she had a "rubber" (eraser).




Literary Multitudes Oh, thank you for this non-review. :D
I love to hear people's stories accompanying their reading experiences. :)


message 17: by Hannah (last edited Sep 27, 2009 12:55PM) (new)

Hannah Eiseman-Renyard This is brilliant. Personally I've always had a mischievous feminist approach to the word 'cunt' - I'll throw it in there once in a while and see who recoils. Shakespeare makes puns about 'cunt' in Henry V. Take that, Middle England.

Likewise, this is a view more than a bit encouraged by my mother - but again, behind closed doors. "Don't blame me for what happens when you say that in public, kiddo."

My personal favourite 'cunt story' (whole new genre opening up here) is from my university days:

Sweet little Michele Roberts, in a lecture on her book The Mistressclass, wanted to explain her Lawrence-esque use of the C-word. She turned to fellow lecturer Patricia Duncker (apologies for the endless namedropping) and said "are we allowed to swear?"
Patricia Duncker says "Yes, I think so."
Michele Roberts says "Cunt. I think it's an interesting word, because it's the strongest swearword there is - so it speaks of female sexuality being something taboo and..." (I forget). "And there isn't a male equivalent," she stops and gets a faraway look in her eye, "...except maybe todger."

Bless her, I think Michele Roberts thinks the reason she hasn't heard the word 'todger' in years is because it's so shocking and outrageous.... not just that it's dropped off the verbal radar because it's more than a bit silly.


message 18: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Hannah wrote: "Bless her, I think Michele Roberts thinks the reason she hasn't heard the word 'todger' in years is because it's so shocking and outrageous.... not just that it's dropped off the verbal radar because it's more than a bit silly...." Now that is truly funny.

"Todger"...it just doesn't shock at all does it?




message 19: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad I just reread this and taught it in a novel and short story class, and I am pleased to say that my second reading didn't diminish my appreciation Lady Chatterly's Lover in any way. And I was impressed with how well I remembered the parts that have stuck with me over the years. There is real beauty for me in the sensuality shared by Mellors and Connie. I'm going to have to revisit more of Lawrence, I think.


Kristi  Siegel Brad wrote: "I just reread this and taught it in a novel and short story class, and I am pleased to say that my second reading didn't diminish my appreciation Lady Chatterly's Lover in any way. And..."

I think we had the same mother at different times. My mother recommended this to me when I was in the tenth grade. My high school English teacher was appalled. I didn't get any sort of thrashing, but my mother was called. Big mistake. Her verbal smackdowns were a thing of beauty and embarrassing as hell (...from my vantage).


message 21: by Brad (last edited Jan 26, 2010 09:41AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad I am longing for that first phone call from the school to complain about something inappropriate my kids do or say; I want to be like your Mom, Ellen. Famous for my "verbal smackdowns." ;)


Kristi  Siegel Brad wrote: "I am longing for that first phone call from the school to complain about something inappropriate my kids do or say; I want to be like your Mom, Ellen. Famous for my "verbal smackdowns." ;) "

Be careful. Schools tend to lack a sense of humor. When my oldest started middle school, I was sent a form to complete. Under "Language spoken at home" (or some such thing), I wrote, "Not certain...it might be English."

...They called for an explanation.


message 23: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Brad, where is the review?




message 24: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad You mean a new review?


message 25: by Stephen (new)

Stephen About the book? Maybe?


message 26: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Naaah. I'll be reviewing Lolita in a week or so though.


message 27: by Lori (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lori I'm so glad there were new comments so this popped up on my update page - I think this is my favorite review, ever! Now I too will think of LCL but more especially the word cunt, which I have loathed more than any other, in an entirely new way.


message 28: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Weee!!! I am happy too, Lori. Thanks for the compliment.


Rosana Brad, I too enjoyed your “review�. I hope you don’t mind me sharing it with the members of my “off-line� book club when we meet to discuss LCL in a couple of weeks. I will certainly give the credits to you. And, what a brave mom you have.


message 30: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Feel free to share, Capitu. I'm glad you liked my metareview (it sounds so much more dignified than non-review). Have a lively book club discussion.


message 31: by Ben (new)

Ben Oh man, this has to be one of GR's all time best reviews.


message 32: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Thanks, Ben :)


message 33: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Sounds like we have similar fathers, Caris. I just bought the Tower Treasure for my boy; he's edging ever closer to a full length book, which has me pretty excited and probably a little precipitous. (btw...I love that you're making references to Johnny Rotten and the Hardy Boys in the same message. Genius. I have a Sex Pistols story connected to my father than I am going to have to relate someday.)

Now...my teacher's surname. I'm going to have to send you a private message on that one.


message 34: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Shaun Cassidy. Sweet! I think the chicks are always going to love Shaun, so I think you've got a good shot at the Hardy Boys. My daughter's partial to Leif Garrett, so I think I can make her love the Outsiders.


message 35: by Peg (new) - added it

Peg Very funny story, but I'm wondering where you went to catholic school? I attended catholic schools from 1st to 12th grade. I had some bad teachers, but I also had some wonderful teachers. I graduated from high school in 1977. In my entire catholic school career, there was NEVER any type of physical punishment. I believe it was not allowed - and the dates I attended spanned from 1965 - 1977! How is it that you attended catholic schools in the mid-80s I believe, and you still claim physical punishment? Sorry, but I just don't believe that part of your story.


message 36: by Brad (last edited Sep 10, 2010 04:02PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad I went to school in Canada; I don't know if that is where the difference lies, but I was, most certainly, strapped. But that's okay. You don't need to believe me. After all, Catholics never do anything unsavoury.


message 37: by Peg (new) - added it

Peg Brad wrote: "I went to school in Canada; I don't know if that is where the difference lies, but I was, most certainly, strapped. But that's okay. You don't need to believe me. After all, Catholics never do anyt..."


message 38: by Peg (new) - added it

Peg LOL! I never said that - and would never say that! Maybe the difference is where you went to school. I guess I'll have to concede and believe you now! Now if you had said it was a priest, I wouldn't have doubted it for a second!


message 39: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Now that's interesting. I was an altar boy for years, and never once, not after having been in contact with seven priests, was I touched nor was I treated in any other way than with great respect and kindness.


message 40: by Peg (new) - added it

Peg It is interesting. I guess everyone has his/her own experience and perspective. Glad to hear you had good, honorable priests. We did too. But I guess my experience was that we were more familiar with the nuns, since they taught us and we saw them everyday. We usually only saw the priests at masses, and didn't get to know them as well. At least, that was most of the girls' experience. If we had been allowed to be alter servers during the time I was in grade school, I'm sure I'd have a different perspective.


message 41: by Scribble (last edited Jan 22, 2011 04:30PM) (new)

Scribble Orca Why is it that words which denote either anatomy or intercourse are swearwords? We even have a mangled relationship with the meaning of the latter!

Funny and touching review, Brad. Thank you.


message 42: by Lolamarina (new)

Lolamarina I loved your story but your mom was a kook.


message 43: by Lolamarina (new)

Lolamarina Btw, I hate that word, I don't care how poetic it may sound. It sounds nasty to me like it sounded to Tammy.


message 44: by Lolamarina (new)

Lolamarina I would have been sent to the office after punching you and been disciplined and you would have been spared :-)


message 45: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad I'm not sure it sounded nasty to Tammy so much as shocking, but maybe.


message 46: by Lolamarina (new)

Lolamarina Now I really want to read the book and maybe put in practice what I learn from it. :-)


message 47: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Thanks for the belly laughs. Great review. I'm going to reread my copy of LCL to refresh my memory now. Its hilarious that your mother recommended this book to you at 13 I don't have the guts to give it my 16 yr old son.


message 48: by Brad (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brad Send me you address and I'll mail him a copy. Then it isn't you who did it, Sandra. ;)


Emily Thanks for sharing your experience of the book - brilliant.
I agree that in the book the use of the 'c' word is done in such a way as not to cause offence... but perhaps due to conditioning - if I hear the 'c' word in the real world, I still cringe. I guess that can only be because it is used in such a derogatory sense...


message 50: by mark (new)

mark monday wonderful, wonderful. love this review.


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