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Vicious by L.J. Shen
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For anyone who doesn't mind OW and OM this one is very hot right now on Kindle Unlimited go for it! I'll pass but a lot of my friends have LOVED this book!:

More on OW (other women) and OM (other man)

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Note: For the purpose of my reviews whatever activity with OW meaning kissing, trying to f@ck her, taking her to a hotel (even if later hero regrets it and "can't stop thinkinga bout the heroine", watching her naked counts as disloyalty and cheating IF( and only IF) THIS HAPPENS AFTER H and h get together,. I consider they're together once they have exchanged a kiss even if there's no promise of exclusivity. If it is before they kiss I have no problem, but if it's after they have kissed I hate it. It makes the Hero weak and childish. Specially when the "separation" happens for such stupid reasons. Grow up man! This guy isn't a man, he's a boy pretending to be a man.

Again, a lot of my friends like this bad-boy-type of heroes, so you might as well give this book a try. I'm searching for UNREALISTIC MEN that's why I'll pass.

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Reading Progress

January 6, 2017 – Shelved
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: to-read
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: abusive
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: antifeminist
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: cheating-hero
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: cheating-through-separation
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: disloyal-hero
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: ew
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: no-thank-you
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: misogynism
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: misogynist
January 6, 2017 – Shelved as: heroisaboypretendingtobeaman
August 13, 2019 – Shelved as: checked-won-t-read
August 13, 2019 – Shelved as: cheating

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message 1: by Julia (new) - added it
Jan 06, 2017 08:20PM

Julia Preach it girl! I do not have the time or the money to waste on books that are just going to have stupid characters that make stupid decisions.


message 2: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 06, 2017 08:28PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Julia wrote: "Preach it girl! I do not have the time or the money to waste on books that are just going to have stupid characters that make stupid decisions."

I know right! I don't need to get a headache from excessive eye-rolling.


message 3: by Lakshmi (new)
Jan 06, 2017 09:11PM

Lakshmi C Thanks for the warning hon :) Doesn't sound like my cup of coffee


message 4: by Chantal ❤️ (new) - rated it 2 stars
Jan 07, 2017 06:09AM

Chantal ❤️ Yup this one was harsh! It wasn't for me that's for sure.


message 5: by Bgurl (don't h8 me cuz I'm honestful) (new)
Jan 09, 2017 10:25AM

Bgurl (don't h8 me cuz I'm honestful) Thanks for the heads up V! Cheers.


message 6: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 10, 2017 06:34PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Lakshmi wrote: "Thanks for the warning hon :) Doesn't sound like my cup of coffee"

I've read mostly great reviews, though.


message 7: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 10, 2017 06:35PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Chantal ❄️ wrote: "Yup this one was harsh! It wasn't for me that's for sure."

It's good to know that we dislike similare things! I'm so happy I've read your review before downloading it. Amazon was trying to shove this book down my throat!


message 8: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 10, 2017 06:35PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards ♕Miss A� wrote: "Uh this is not for me. Thanks for the warning :)"

I hope I helped. It's a shame because I read mostly good reviews from readers who don't mind OW OM.


message 9: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 10, 2017 06:36PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Bgurl (don't h8 me cuz I'm honestful) wrote: "Thanks for the heads up V! Cheers."

Cheers!!! Hey let's play a drinking game everytime we find a cheating boyfriend in our friends newsfeed!


message 10: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (last edited Jan 12, 2017 07:40PM) (new) - added it
Jan 10, 2017 06:38PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Shari Kay wrote: "Veronica...my standards for cheating are exactly the same. I prefer if nothing after even meeting...but after kissing anything with OP is a no go"

With all those manwhores and with my weakness for first timers I came to accept OM kisses as even necessary. Just kissing! Anything above kissing is ew! I mean all those virginal girls with those guys who have had all those women. It's so unfair! At least let's give the chance to the girls to see if there's another option. No sleeping with OM just kissing him so it's not like the Manwhore Hero takes it all. Poor virgins girls! Just not like in this book. Sleeping to OM is a huge no-no!


message 11: by Tolk (new) - rated it 5 stars
Jan 12, 2017 12:55PM

Tolk I'd usually agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly. But. Apart from the fact that this book is full of manwhores, who I don't hold in high regard at all, I liked this story for one simple reason: It takes both of them such a long time to recognize that they don't hate each other. For me, the relation they have with each other does not constitute a relationship - even after the kiss.
I understand why you reject this book - in general. I just wanted to say why I didn't - specifically.


message 12: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (last edited Jan 12, 2017 07:35PM) (new) - added it
Jan 12, 2017 07:35PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards I think it's great that you loved it Tolk! I prefer when he doesn't have eyes for anyone else except heroine, but that means limiting my options. I'm glad my review didn't scare you from reading a book that you enjoyed! Most of my friends don't mind OW or OM even after kissing.


message 13: by � WishfulMiss � (new)
Jan 12, 2017 09:25PM

♥ WishfulMiss ♥ I'm kind of the same way here. Once I've paired the couple together , any looks or even thoughts about OM/OW seems a form of betrayal and kills the romance for me. We all have our triggers. Thanks for the heads up on this one Veronica :)


message 14: by Quirky Omega (new)
Jan 13, 2017 01:20AM

Quirky Omega Wow. That is next level crappy stuff. Glad I didn't pick it up


message 15: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 02:10PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards � WishfulMiss � wrote: "I'm kind of the same way here. Once I've paired the couple together , any looks or even thoughts about OM/OW seems a form of betrayal and kills the romance for me. We all have our triggers. Thanks ..."

Yay! Welcome to the anti-OW club. I love NA virgin heroine books and also YA romance that's why sometimes I accept celibate heroines kissing or thinking about OM (looking at you shatter me) before their happy endings. Not fond of it, but I can live with it. It's the OW cliche that really upstes me!

Once I've paired the couple together
You pair them after they meet? or after they talk exclusivity? or like me after they kiss for the first time?


message 16: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 05:08PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Quirky Omega wrote: "Wow. That is next level crappy stuff. Glad I didn't pick it up"

I've seen worse, but if you don't like OW OM avoid this one.


message 17: by Vintage (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 05:29PM

Vintage Cheating is a BIG no. In a blatant romance, why do these authors do it? In the context of other genres, it's understandable. Unlikeable but understandable.


message 18: by Vintage (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 05:30PM

Vintage Oh as for that drinking game, my liver is taxed as is.


message 19: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 05:42PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Vintage wrote: "Cheating is a BIG no. In a blatant romance, why do these authors do it? In the context of other genres, it's understandable. Unlikeable but understandable."

I know! I don't mind in other genres, but isn't romance supposed to be about finding the pefect hero? Why settling for something less than a perfect man?


message 20: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 17, 2017 05:45PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Vintage wrote: "Oh as for that drinking game, my liver is taxed as is."

LOL


message 21: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Jan 28, 2017 07:18PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Roksana wrote: "I see this one was not to your liking too...yeah whats to like her? the degradation of heroine and women the cheating and whoring? To me this should be marred as "horror book and not a romance""

I haven't even read it! I just warned my friends that there's cheating.


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Feb 14, 2017 06:59PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Lately I write reviews of books I haven't read. Just to remember why I want to skip them.


message 23: by Vintage (new) - added it
Feb 14, 2017 07:36PM

Vintage And it's a 4.31 with over 1400 reviews.


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Feb 14, 2017 07:48PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Vintage wrote: "And it's a 4.31 with over 1400 reviews."

I know. It's usually like that when romance authors have a huge loyal fanbase. That's why I don't trust GR ratings. I mean I really like most of Alexa Riley's books (no cheating, short stories) and none of her books have 4 star ratings. Whereas all those cheating heroes get gazillions 5 star reviews. It's crazy really.
GR ratings suck!


message 25: by Vintage (new) - added it
Feb 14, 2017 08:09PM

Vintage I've learned not to read ARC's for the same reason. Too many are all rainbows and sunshine.

The sad, sad thing though is I think there are lot of women who enjoy reading the humiliation and lack of spine of the characters. I don't know whether it's because of submission represents absolute love or the need to see a woman degraded, but it seems to fit a need out there. You can see it in the Harlequins as well. Who knows?


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Feb 14, 2017 08:17PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Vintage wrote: "I've learned not to read ARC's for the same reason. Too many are all rainbows and sunshine.

The sad, sad thing though is I think there are lot of women who enjoy reading the humiliation and lack o..."

I've read my share of Harlequins and I still think Erotica self published has more misogyinist elements and it's way more degrading to women. I wrote a paper about women in small towns where it's the greatest of dishonors not to be approached by men, and not getting married getting competitive and mean towads other women. That's why I always say that misogynist writers like Jaime Mcguire must come from towns like this one. I don't know.


message 27: by Fanniny (new) - added it
Feb 14, 2017 09:02PM

Fanniny Moreno Zavaleta I won't lie, I like my heroines suffering BUT within reason, no humiliation or degradation, no cheating, otherwise it's not a romance for me


message 28: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Feb 18, 2017 07:59PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Fanniny wrote: "I won't lie, I like my heroines suffering BUT within reason, no humiliation or degradation, no cheating, otherwise it's not a romance for me"

*high fives Fanniny
I liked the suffering too, but I want that they get their HEA's finding an ideal man who will stay forever with them. If he's as bad as this guy even if they get a Happy ending it won't be good. It'll look like eventually he'll ruin the relationship again. Not fun to read that.


message 29: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (new) - added it
Feb 18, 2017 08:02PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Roksana wrote: "Veronica hates cheating/disloyal heros in "Romance" books wrote: "Vintage wrote: "I've learned not to read ARC's for the same reason. Too many are all rainbows and sunshine.

The sad, sad thing tho..."

Yes, it's as though Jamie McGuire hates all women, she's so mysognistic in her books. And it's clear a lot of authors are trying to copy her creating those manwhore heroes. At least Travis could be cute when he wanted to.


message 30: by Goodgood (new)
Sep 20, 2017 02:11AM

Goodgood so the heroine sleeps with other men after being with the hero..please give me details about the heroine lovers and timing ..thanks


message 31: by Fanniny (new) - added it
Sep 22, 2017 09:03PM

Fanniny Moreno Zavaleta Veronica PARENTAL GUIDANCE ALERT: A Court of Mist and Fury is an EROTICA/NEW ADULT but most booktubers won't tell you wrote: "Fanniny wrote: "I won't lie, I like my heroines suffering BUT within reason, no humiliation or degradation, no cheating, otherwise it's not a romance for me"

*high fives Fanniny
I liked the suffer..."

That deserves a whole high five routine!


message 32: by Spoon (new)
Oct 14, 2017 07:05AM

Spoon Aaaand I almost bought this... Thank god. Thanks for the warning V!


message 33: by V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards (last edited Oct 14, 2017 07:13PM) (new) - added it
Oct 14, 2017 07:13PM

V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but ŷ editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards Spoon wrote: "Aaaand I almost bought this... Thank god. Thanks for the warning V!"

No problem! The sequels are full of OW too. In fact they're worse, because the heroes have sex with other women!


message 34: by Spoon (new)
Oct 14, 2017 08:17PM

Spoon Veronica PARENTAL GUIDANCE ALERT: A Court of Mist and Fury is an EROTICA/NEW ADULT but most booktubers won't tell you wrote: No problem! The sequels are full of OW too. In fact they're worse, because the heroes have sex with other women!"

Whaaaaat??? How is that even romance?? Ugh, I'm so tired of all the OW and OM in these so-called "romances." And it's always the ones I want to read! Sigh.


message 35: by Adalia (new) - rated it 1 star
Dec 12, 2018 09:29AM

Adalia I would have no problems with open relationships if both partners are ok with it. This was not the case in this book.


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