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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick
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it was amazing
bookshelves: science-fiction, philosophical, post-apocalyptic, favorites
Read 2 times. Last read May 19, 2019 to May 22, 2019.

Brilliant!

Many questions arise when one reads Philip K. Dick’s 1968 sci fi classic. But one question I specifically had to ask myself was, Why on earth did I give this a four star rating when I joined Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ? Am I completely nuts? I leave it up to you, dear Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ friends, to answer that question. But thanks in advance for your encouraging words.

Personally I’m going to put it down to circumstances. I was reading this book for the first time while I was on vacation in Barcelona. It took me about a week to read it, even though it’s only 193 pages, because I simply didn’t have much time to read. And therefore most of my reading was done in short spurts, often while I was standing in crowded places or even not been standing at all, but walking to some other place. That’s really not how a book like this should be read.

Even though it is a fairly easy read, and possesses the qualities of a page-turner, your mind will be working overtime. Trying to figure out what is, and what is not, and what it all means.

There is much more in the book than there is in the movie. Mood organs, empathy boxes, Wilbur Mercer and Buster Friendly, an electric sheep, of course. There’s much for you still to discover, if so far you‘ve only seen the movie(s).

But the main point is the same as it was when in 1982 Blade Runner finally got onto the big screen. As androids have become so similar to us that it is increasingly hard to tell if they are androids in the first place, and they might not even know it themselves, then what is it that differentiates us from them? And is one worth more than the other? What if we have decided on a certain quality that distinguishes us from them, but then we realize that some people don’t possess that quality? Or maybe they possess it to a lesser extent than the average person does. Are they not humans then? Are they lesser humans? Are they? Are we? What are we?

We follow bounty hunter Rick Deckard on his assignment to retire six rogue androids, as he wrestles with those questions himself. He will come across some persons that could be androids or could be humans. Deckard will not know initially. And neither will the reader. At some point the reader might even ask if Deckard himself is an android. The ambiguity of the text, in spite of PKD’s easily flowing and easily understandable prose, is a real treat.

The other POV is that of J.R. Isidore, a special, meaning someone with a below average IQ that was not allowed to leave for Mars, as most of mankind did after World War Terminus, and is now degenerating because of the radioactive fallout. He’s living all by himself in a deserted apartment building and basically only comes into contact with other people while he’s at work. That is, until one day he discovers that an android has moved into the building and he tries to befriend her (it?).

At some point the paths of these characters will inevitably cross and all of them are about to lose something in the process.

And then there’s the matter of Wilbur Mercer and Buster Friendly, of course. Find out for yourself. ;)

Thanks to my pathetic memory (or the circumstances � remember the circumstances?) I tremendously enjoyed this re-read. And honestly, I think there’s so much here in the text and also between the lines that I’m quite certain I’m going to read this again in the future. And I might enjoy it equally as much then or even more than I did during this second read.

I’m finally moving this to my favorites shelf now.

Highly recommended!

Brilliant!
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Reading Progress

December 30, 2016 – Started Reading
January 6, 2017 – Finished Reading
February 5, 2017 – Shelved
October 8, 2017 – Shelved as: science-fiction
October 9, 2017 – Shelved as: philosophical
May 19, 2019 – Started Reading
May 19, 2019 –
page 21
10.88% "Interesting that while the blurb says the story is set in 2021, my book actually still has it in 1992.
And I'm reading that 2010 edition of the book.

Anyways, mood organs, WTF! Wanna have a depression today? Dial 451."
May 20, 2019 –
page 103
53.37% "Halfway through and enjoying it a lot. I might add another star to my initial rating. We'll see."
May 22, 2019 – Shelved as: post-apocalyptic
May 22, 2019 – Shelved as: favorites
May 22, 2019 – Finished Reading

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Bradley It's odd how some of these creep up to be much better on the whole after reading so much crap in the meantime, too. :) lol


Dennis Well, that might be an explanation, too. :)

It didn't quite work with the movie, though. I always liked it. But never loved it. Can't really tell why. And that didn't change when we've watched it again last week, even though I've definitely seen quite some crap in the meantime.


Bradley I always liked and deeply respected aspects of the original movie but I might have to agree with you... it's not the best thing ever. :) I liked Tron better. :)


Dennis The ending is great, though. And now I want to watch Tron. Lol.


Bradley I love the music in Tron. :) Gives me chills. :) lol


Dennis Ditto. :) And I think I should have been a little more precise about Blade Runner, since there are several endings, of course. The scene with Deckard and Roy on the roof is great. That's what I meant, actually.


Bradley That scene was brilliant. I still think about the origamis, tho. :)


Dennis Hahaha! Really? Great, now I want to play Heavy Rain. You're killing me, man! ;)


Trish By the way, my colleague's partner has the collector's box containing all Blade Runner movies incl. a description of the differences - we didn't watch the Final Cut but the Director's Cut. I've seen the Final Cut though and that's why I kept remembering scenes we didn't see as such in the one on Saturday.

What boggles my mind, whether you just like or love this movie, is how brilliant they were able to make such movies back then. Nowadays, with much more possibilities (also but not only because of CGI), most movies aren't half as great as they could be. I wonder why.


Dennis You mean the look of the movie? That's fantastic, indeed.


Trish Yep. And not just Blade Runner. There are a few scifi movies (Tron included) that were revolutionary. Haven't seen anything "revolutionary" in quite a while despite the technology getting better and better. *sighs*


Bradley I am the corruptor. :) But yeah, I need to watch the Final Cut version. I have no idea what's going on anymore. :)

Some movies these days DO focus on subtlety even with CGI but any movie made at any time is going to be separated between the crap and the fantastic. It's just that there's a lot more high-budget crap out these days. lol


message 13: by Bradley (last edited May 22, 2019 01:38PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bradley Matrix qualifies. Some people will say Avatar did, but honestly... no. I couldn't watch it all the way through the second time.

What since? I'm tempted to mention some of the Marvel movies but they don't pop over the revolutionary measure. Or maybe they do in how they shame everyone else?


Dennis Bradley wrote: "I am the corruptor. :) But yeah, I need to watch the Final Cut version. I have no idea what's going on anymore. :)

Some movies these days DO focus on subtlety even with CGI but any movie made at a..."


Agreed. At least back then the crap was usually fairly low budget as well. Which made some of it even fun again. High budget crap is the worst.


Dennis Bradley wrote: "Matrix qualifies. Some people will say Avatar did, but honestly... no. I couldn't watch it all the way through the second time.

What since? I'm tempted to mention some of the Marvel movies but th..."


I would have to think quite hard now. Give me a week. Lol.


Bradley Ready, set.. GO. :)


message 17: by Dennis (last edited May 22, 2019 01:55PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dennis Lol. Inception is the first that comes to mind. I liked Ex Machina and Her. But are they revolutionary?! Not so sure.


Bradley Definitely good movies, tho. Ones that we still whisper about late at night, tho? The ones that we dream about or punch each other over at bars? No. :)


Dennis It probably comes down to budget again. With high budget movies there's a tendency, some would say need, to play it safe, because we're talking real high budget nowadays.
There might be some really good low budget stuff. But you would probably have a hard time finding anyone at the bar to punch. Because at the cinema those movies get lost in the mainstream crap avalanche. It might ultimately lead to extinction.


Bradley I truly and honestly hope not. Movies like Donnie Darko (original version) should not be forgot.


Dennis I don't think I've seen that one. I definitely know the title. But I think in the past I might have confused it with Donnie Brasco and just never watched it.

You've seen Under the Skin with Scarlett Johansson? I honestly can't say if it's a good movie or not. Lol. But it is certainly different.


Bradley I was "meh" with Under the Skin. Donnie Darko was simply messed up cool. SF. Cult. :)


Dennis *adds it to the list* Let's see what Trish thinks about it.


Bradley I do believe she has seen it, but don't take her word for it. It's awesomely subtle and wicked. :) I used to watch it every October. :)


Trish Bradley wrote: "The ones that we dream about or punch each other over at bars?"

Uhm ... actually ... any excuse will do so I get to punch people nowadays.

As for Donnie Darko: how comes my opinion is only ever welcome if I agree about some movie or other being awesome or crap but not when I disagree, hm?!


Trish Dennis wrote: "*adds it to the list* Let's see what Trish thinks about it."

I've seen it many years ago and I agree that it was certainly messed up. But nothing to gush about in the dark imo. Might be because of Jake Gyllenhaal. Although ... he had a role he was good in, supposedly - or was that because he played alongside Hugh Jackman? ;P


Bradley Huh, never saw Prisoners. Was it any good? Other than the fact that your crush is in it? :) :)


Trish I haven‘t seen it. ;) But I‘ve been told by actual Hugh Jackman fans (apparently, I‘m not allowed to call myself that because I haven‘t seen everything he was ever in, incl. stolen family home videos *lol*).


Bradley Well, maybe you ought to watch it because it was directed by the same guy who did Arrival and (soon) Dune. If you didn't need more reason. :)


Trish That's actually a very good reason. *lol* In truth, the reason I haven't watched it yet is that it seems very dark and at the time I didn't need more of that.


Bradley Well give me a moment and let's all try for a BW (buddy watch). :)


Dennis Which movie are we talking about? Prisoners? Donnie Darko? Or was it Tron? ;)


Bradley Prisoners, but I might be down for Donnie. :)


Dennis Okay, I haven't seen that one either. But it does look interesting.

Btw, Brad, do you know the detailed results of the Nebula voting?


message 35: by Bradley (last edited May 23, 2019 07:08AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bradley I do not. I should look, however. :) I usually give it a cursory glance for titles, however. I might be more into it after I'm eligible to vote. :)

But now that I have...

I don't know. There are a few I agree with such as the dramatic presentation and the short story, but the rest? I don't know. I wasn't wowed with any of the winners. I may have liked them, but I would have chosen others. Maybe by two or three slots from my favorites, even. *shrug*


Fergus, Weaver of Autistic Webs Wow - great review. And a book I haven’t read. I must have been blind to its star qualities while roaming bookstores in the seventies - it was Everywhere back then!


Dennis Bradley wrote: "I do not. I should look, however. :) I usually give it a cursory glance for titles, however. I might be more into it after I'm eligible to vote. :)"

If you can get ahold of them and you are allowed to share them, that would be nice. :)


Dennis Fergus wrote: "Wow - great review. And a book I haven’t read. I must have been blind to its star qualities while roaming bookstores in the seventies - it was Everywhere back then!"

Thanks, Fergus! And it's never too late to open your eyes. Give it a try. :)


Bradley I think the Verge has links to the titles to read online. :) I know most of the stories are available because of the nominee status. :) Or at least they are where they overlap with the Hugo noms. *packets, et al*


Dennis Oh, I know the links. I don't ask you to share the stories. Just the results of the voting. If that's permitted.


Bradley Oh! I found the results on Verge! :) Just now, like. :) Apparently, the actual event is behind the times.


Trish Wait ... have I been voluntold to watch a movie?! Which? When? Who am I and if so, how many?


Dennis Bradley wrote: "Oh! I found the results on Verge! :) Just now, like. :) Apparently, the actual event is behind the times."

I don't think the order on Verge corresponds with the received votes. At least it didn't last year. Or maybe I'm looking at a different page. I'll send you a PM. :)


Dennis Trish wrote: "Wait ... have I been voluntold to watch a movie?! Which? When? Who am I and if so, how many?"

13


Bradley Wait, I thought it was 14.


message 46: by Dennis (last edited May 23, 2019 09:14AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dennis I think her (their?) Komitee der Selbste is debating the matter right now and she (they?) will answer you shortly.


Bradley Well, at least the "debates" are never permanently deadly, so after a slight (mourning) waiting period, we should get a consensus.


Danielle Tremblay Great review. For the 4 stars. Sometimes, you have to give your brain time to digest a story before knowing what it was really worth.


message 49: by Dennis (last edited May 23, 2019 10:48AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dennis Thanks, Danielle! :) I think my brain was a little slow here, considering that I joined Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ a month or so after I had finished the book. But sometimes it seems to take even more time, or a re-read. Which I'm glad I did. :)


Trish 13


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