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We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson
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it was amazing
bookshelves: horror, madness-psychi-supernat-faith-proj, mystery-detective-thriller, books-loved-2017, eng-240-spr-17, ya-fall-2017, ya-fall-2018, best-books-ever
Read 4 times. Last read February 14, 2025 to March 3, 2025.

3/3/25: Reread for my Spring 2025 YAL class; lively, fun exchanges about this book that I would share except they constitute spoilers. Just: different opinions about the ending, different assessments of characters. I love talking about books. The class was basically introduced to Shirley Jackson, whom they mosty love!

10/31/23: Happy Halloween, (which for horror fans in general or Shirley Jackson fans in particular is basically every day of the year), in conjunction with my having just read The Shirley Jackson Project, a comics tribute collection edited by Robert Kirby.

10/7/21: Always a great read, with an amazing main character, though in this discussion we troubled the issue of her reliability as a narrator. Of course she is unreliable, in many respects, but can we trust her version of the story in any respect? I think we can. I also read an essay that contended that Constance and Mary Katherine are different aspects of Shirley Jackson's personality. I also read more about Jackson's psychopathology, her agoraphobia, her hatred of the working class townies from North Bennington where she and her husband lived, antipathies that make their way out in this novel and in "The Lottery."

9/17/18: Third read for my Fall 2018 YA course, and what has emerged as one of my favorite books of all time. This time I noticed all the food references more than ever.

“We eat the year away. We eat the spring and the summer and the fall. We wait for something to grow and then we eat it.� “I'm going to put death in all their food and watch them die.�

And loved the strange lyricism of Merricat's deft observations. Are Merricat and Constance really happy in their life in the castle, and should we just leave them alone with their choices of isolation, or are they cases of arrested development, of stasis, of the opposite of "coming-of-age" and maturation that we expect in a YA novel? You get to choose, I think. I'll say that, isnce ths is horror, that there is a sufficient case here that these women need just a leetle bit of help in the mental health arena.

9/12/17: I read this in March of this year for a course I was teaching and read it again for my fall YA course.

A memorable tale of gothic suspense by Jackson, the author of the much anthologized, exquisitely perverse short story, “The Lottery" (1948). Castle is Jackson’s last book, often described as her masterpiece, featuring two of the best sister acts in American literature, Constance and her sister Mary Katherine, or Merricat, who says things like this:

“On the moon we wore feathers in our hair, and rubies on our hands. On the moon we had gold spoons.�

And, to her sister, Constance:

“Oh Constance, we are so happy.�
Who often replies, "Silly, silly Merricat."

But truly un-merry Merricat also says things like this, about the people of the town:

“I'm going to put death in all their food and watch them die.�

Six years ago, several of the Blackwood family were poisoned, from arsenic sprinkled with sugar on a bowl of blackberries. Constance, who was in the kitchen, was and still is widely suspected of the crime, of which Merricat simply says:

“Fate intervened. Some of us, that day, she led inexorably through the gates of death. Some of us, innocent and unsuspecting, took, unwillingly, that one last step to oblivion. Some of us took very little sugar.�

Merricat's distinctive narrator’s voice joins those of Scout and Holden Caufield as unforgettable teen main characters in American literature. At turns creepy, delightful, dark, with a touch of black humor, the book also features Constance, Merricat's caretaker sister, weirdly hilarious Uncle Julian, and greedy Cousin Charles who comes to live in the castle for a time. I was intrigued by the tension between the townies and the Blackwood family holed up in their dark gothic mansion. I loved the chilling moment of the Big Reveal, that dramatic horrific climax, but I also loved the strangely sweet conclusion, colored as always by Merricat’s strange witchy habits:

“All our land was enriched with my treasures buried in it, thickly inhabited just below the surface with my marbles and my teeth and my colored stones, all perhaps turned to jewels by now, held together under the ground in a powerful taut web which never loosened, but held fast to guard us.�

A masterpiece, revealing more riches at every reading.
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Reading Progress

February 17, 2017 – Started Reading
February 17, 2017 – Shelved
February 17, 2017 – Shelved as: horror
February 17, 2017 – Shelved as: madness-psychi-supernat-faith-proj
February 17, 2017 –
page 15
9.49% "Just started it, never read it or any of her novels before. By the author of "The Lottery," which everyone seems to read in school (in the states, anyway)."
February 22, 2017 –
page 30
18.99% "“My name is Mary Katherine Blackwood. I am eighteen years old, and I live with my sister Constance. I have often thought that with any luck at all, I could have been born a werewolf, because the two middle fingers on both my hands are the same length. I like my sister Constance, and Richard Plantagenet, and Amanita phalloides, the death-cup mushroom. Everyone else in our family is dead.�"
February 23, 2017 –
page 50
31.65% "“I can't help it when people are frightened," says Merricat. "I always want to frighten them more.�"
February 27, 2017 –
page 110
69.62% "Merricat, said Connie, would you like a cup of tea?
Oh, no, said Merricat, you’ll poison me.
Merricat, said Connie, would you like to go to sleep?
Down in the boneyard ten feet deep!"
March 1, 2017 – Shelved as: mystery-detective-thriller
March 1, 2017 – Shelved as: books-loved-2017
March 1, 2017 – Finished Reading
September 10, 2017 –
0.0% "Currently re-reading for Fall 2017 YA class."
September 12, 2017 – Started Reading
September 16, 2017 –
0.0% "Re-reading for Fall 2017 YA class. Merricat is one of the greatest teen heroines of American literature, totally unique, right up there with Scout from To Kill a Mockingbird. Yes, she's really that great a character!"
September 16, 2017 – Shelved as: eng-240-spr-17
September 16, 2017 – Shelved as: ya-fall-2017
September 16, 2017 – Finished Reading
September 14, 2018 – Shelved as: ya-fall-2018
October 21, 2019 – Shelved as: best-books-ever
October 4, 2021 – Started Reading
October 7, 2021 – Finished Reading
February 14, 2025 – Started Reading
March 3, 2025 – Finished Reading

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Lauren Ahhh, another book I need to read!!


Dave Schaafsma Lauren wrote: "Ahhh, another book I need to read!!"

Sorry, Lauren, but, uh, yes. Required reading.


Lauren *adds it to must-read list*

*looks at leaning tower of books*


Dave Schaafsma Lauren wrote: "*adds it to must-read list*

*looks at leaning tower of books*"


ah, a thing of beauty, not a terrifying tower. You have many important things to do! Go, read, and keep building the tower as you go!


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Joe Kraus Sounds good. This one is having some kind of revival, I think. I just won a full set of the new Penguin "orange" collection, a dozen books with nothing that I can quite recognize as in common. This one is one of them. I'll try to get to it.


Dave Schaafsma Joe wrote: "Sounds good. This one is having some kind of revival, I think. I just won a full set of the new Penguin "orange" collection, a dozen books with nothing that I can quite recognize as in common. This..." I saw that orange! I taught this book in my madness class, and didn't require a specific version, but the copy that most came in was this orange one. No one knew why orange. But this book is worth reading, definitely.


Lauren David wrote: "Lauren wrote: "*adds it to must-read list*

*looks at leaning tower of books*"

ah, a thing of beauty, not a terrifying tower. You have many important things to do! Go, read, and keep building the..."


You always know exactly what to say, David. I think I need to bottle your words and keep them with me always :)


Dave Schaafsma Well, right! :)


Fuchsia  Groan Love the review, now I want to re-read it! David, would you like a cup of tea? :)


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Dave Schaafsma Fuchsia wrote: "Love the review, now I want to re-read it! David, would you like a cup of tea? :)"

Oh no, said David, you’ll poison me.


Roger Brunyate Nice ending, David. I had wondered about the long dying fall after the climax (35 pages of a 140-page book), but you have nailed its special quality. R.


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Dave Schaafsma Roger, lovely to hear from you again, and thanks! Re-establishing their relationship, kind of circling the wagons, and going more and more away from society. . . it's a kind of chilling ending.


Julie G David,
I love how you described "The Lottery" here, as exquisitely perverse. I re-read it last week and I sat, almost in awe, at the conclusion (yet again).


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Dave Schaafsma thanks. :) it is stunning, I agree. there's a sixties movie version on youtube, and a recent graphic version by jackson's son. .. .


Julie G Yes, Ilana S. reminded me that you had a review on here of the graphic novel and I was inspired by it. I thought the grandson did a great job.


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Dave Schaafsma Right, it's the grandson, and thanks for telling me of Ilana's mention of my review of it, and for your kind words about it.


Ilana (illi69) I borrowed the graphic novel from the library this week and was impressed. Also really glad it showed me something I’d missed in the story, which is the fact The Lottery had started with the Puritanical settlers. Makes perfect sense of course... they WOULD have enjoyed a regular stoning to keep everyone in check, wouldn’t they?


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Dave Schaafsma Ilana wrote: "I borrowed the graphic novel from the library this week and was impressed. Also really glad it showed me something I’d missed in the story, which is the fact The Lottery had started with the Purita..." I know, I like that addition of the Puritans. As a former American Lit teacher, it seems perfect to teach it in that period of lit, just as it fits with The Crucible, which I recall teaching with the Puritans.


Julie G My ancestors were those grim-faced Puritans, and I always get the shivers, when I see them portrayed. I still can't read Nathaniel Hawthorne, for that very reason (a great blight in my otherwise stellar American lit background, David!).

I wanted to add something that I also loved about the graphic novel (since my reviews always go the circuitous route!), regarding the scenes of the ill-fated housewife. . . disrobing and entering a bath. . . I thought about this for days after reading it. Was the artist using those scenes to spike book sales, or did it serve some purpose? I finally settled on the sensual nature of her nudity, the obvious pleasure she experienced from being alone and in the elements. I think he was contrasting the spark despair of daily life in the village with the private pleasure that Nature can bring. Was it a moment of optimism?


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Dave Schaafsma Julie wrote: "My ancestors were those grim-faced Puritans, and I always get the shivers, when I see them portrayed. I still can't read Nathaniel Hawthorne, for that very reason (a great blight in my otherwise st..." I think so , yes.


Julie G Which part? The optimism, or the blight in my lit education??!


Ilana (illi69) Julie, I was wondering about that bath scene too. It struck me as being superfluous and I too wondered whether it was meant to pander to the modern viewer, but thought perhaps it was meant to point to an aspect of the character we hadn't considered, maybe? I'm left scratching me head about that one. David? Any theories or ideas about this?


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Dave Schaafsma Julie wrote: "Which part? The optimism, or the blight in my lit education??!" Well, I meant the optimism. But I think Hawthorne knew what he was talking about when he wrote about those Puritans. It's not too late for you. . ..


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Dave Schaafsma I just looked at that bath scene. So why she is naked? Okay, maybe it is like optimism, it's pure. And being naked in literature is usually about something elemental, open, nothing hidden. It's not meant to be prurient, it's innocent, she's innocent, like in The Garden. . . and she's about to become the victim of a world of sin, social evil . . .she's not responsible for the evil, she'll be the victim of it. I like it because it's a complex move, not obvious, but I also think not superfluous, it's a kind of emblem. Only she is naked, no one else.

I will say that it is unusual to see nudity in Jackson, it basically never happens. It's asexual universe, hers.

We get more background about the lottery; not sure that Jackson would approve. Her story was lean and mean, leaving so much open to question. She might have liked the bath scene, but maybe less the pointing to the Puritans by her grandson.


Julie G Oh, David. I just don't know about Hawthorne. Maybe.


Julie G Yes, I like your thoughts on the bath scene. I think we're getting there. . . Innocence, Nature, Optimism. . . something like that. It was also a sensual contrast to the starkness of the other pages, as well, and I agree with Ms. Jackson potentially not liking him adding the Puritan piece. She seemed as though she really favored subtlety.


Ilana (illi69) Interesting. I would have thought just the opposite. She does after all talk about the lottery having been around for many many generations and all kinds of traditions having fallen away over time so that the Puritans seemed to me very likely as the originators of this tradition. But as you say, nothing at all in The Lottery or any of the other works by Jackson I’ve read so far carries even a hint of sexuality and while I’m certainly not a prude, I found that scene jarring in the gn adaptation for the reasons I mentioned. What I infer from your comment after further thought is the bath scene showing her nude female form presents her as a real sensual and beautiful woman who is faced with a stark and inhumane system, and I suppose that contrast makes the final outcome that much more unthinkable.


Julie G Ah, Ilana. Good point. . . it humanizes her more, and it does make the ending more stark!
I think "The Lottery" is dystopian enough in nature; I'm not sure Ms. Jackson was trying to assert the particular origins of the tradition (more like Any Town, Any Place), though we can typically blame the Puritans for many of our issues!


Ilana (illi69) I think you’re right about Shirley Jackson having deliberately left out any identifying details, as she apparently wanted to make The Lottery as universal as possible. I recently read an article in a Jewish publication released a couple of years ago. There were some who wanted to make the story her commentary about antisemitism since she was married to a Jew and wrote the story not long after the war and the conclusion was precisely that: universal rather than about any one group. Though that doesn’t prevent us as individual readers to put whatever spin on things we wish to put on it. I “like� the Puritans for this story because it seems so much in keeping with the ways in which they kept everyone in check. They might not have gone as far as stoning but when you think of the Salem witch trials alone... and how oppressive they were in general... not exactly a bunch of humanitarians, they!


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Greg David, I too needed 3 reads to get it: it's a crime story, Mericat likes to bury things and hope they turn into something lovely for her to possess.


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Dave Schaafsma Sorry, I was out of the loop of my own thread for a few days! Btu yes, she wanted to make it universal, in a sense, so didn't put in any identifying historical details. Could have been anywhere. Tradition! Though if you look at Castle and "The Lottery," and there are others, you can see she has a thing about small, insular towns. Jackson was seen as a privileged outsider in a larger house in a small town. They were wealthier, more sophisticated, educated, and Jackson hated living where they lived, hated the small-minded people, as she saw them. She also isolated herself increasingly, grew morbidly obese, didn't go out much. But I aisles think she is getting at something about the human condition, that Lord of the Flies tendency to evil, to cruelty, to violence. The bath scene makes the stoning maybe a bit more real, because she is a flesh and blood human being, like us, and she is going to die. And yes, Greg, it's a mystery, a whodunnit, too.


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JimZ I laughed out loud several times...I know Merricat weas loony as a tune but she sure as hell was funny (what she thought and what she did...well, aside from poisoning people).


Viola "we are so happy"..."oh, silly silly Marricat"...I've often wondered if Constance was so happy as Marricat let us think... I agree with you, Marricat is a beautiful, powerful character, she put a spell on me 🍄


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Dave Schaafsma Me, too. I think there is something chilling when she says, "we are so happy" or "oh, silly silly Merricat" and I think they are a little mentally. . . ill, but not everyone agrees with that diagnosis. I think to be locked up in that house with just the two of them is a kind of mummification, where others think they are just different, leave them alone!


Viola Yes, I agree with you, Marricat is mentally but Costance isn't at the beginning; she turns into a sociopathic person both because the possessive love of Marricat and because of the isolation. Imagine: she suspects immediately the sister as murder and in the meanwhile she is conscious she is still alive only "thanks" to Marricat's love. On the other side, the isolated condition leads both of them to be different, like they are really living on the moon. They make me think about the children in Kinodontas movie by Lanthimos: they have been kept so isolated from the rest of the word by their parents that they have a completely different way to think, even to speak: they have their own special vocabulary and here, I think is the same for Marricat and Constance.


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Dave Schaafsma I only saw this now but will check out this film, ty


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