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As Sure as the Dawn by Francine  Rivers
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I read all three of these books as recommended by my daughter. She writes well. I appreciated her Christian emphasis and attention to historical detail but, like so many modern writers and filmmakers, so much of the book is devoted to the bad behavior of the unconverted or the slow, stumbling process of the newly converted. There is also a great deal of mysticism passing for true spiritual growth and closeness to God. I found little spiritual depth here. They are also so female-dominated that she seems unconcerned with God's plan for men and women. Granted, men may be hard-converted, and women may come to Christ sooner, but to have women do all the real spiritual growing and activity is troubling.
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Karen I love these books so much read them 3 times. Did you not see Spiritual Growth in Artretes, or the Centurion? Since John was still alive could still have been some bit of Jewish signs hanging on up until he passed. Also Marcus grew pretty fast when he finally was saved. I think it may be more female dominated because few men would read them. Unconverted do act bad, even after saved I know people that are pretty bad and hard for me to understand how they act, but are saved. I Corinthians 5 talks of one like that. But everyone of us in the body are different parts, hands may like a book whereas eyes may not like it too well.


Mary Findley I agree there is Scriptural evidence that Christian growth can be slow. And there was some growth evidence in the men. I objected to the mysticism and the feminism and I'm going to have to stand by those. I love books where men take their right place, even when they are new believers. A right emphasis on knowledge of the Scriptures as a foundation, not on miracles and powers that belonged to the prophets, Christ, and the apostles, would have made a better book.


Karen I am still waiting after 21 years for my husband to take his right place. Extremely hard for me. He is saved, but has never had faith and mocks me when I am walking right, so I can identify I suppose. I think this is my cross in a way keeping the right heart in the midst with a man that refuses to take up the leadership of our home. I used to be horrified and so disturbed, but now I just rejoice and pray. He will answer someday for neglecting the honorable position he just refuses and mocks.(if you met him you would think he is so spiritual, but not at home) He comes and goes with it. And as I said prior you are smarter than me and can get some stuff I will not.


Mary Findley Karen, I know many people in your situation. I thank God my husband is a mature, spiritual leader. He makes our children, and me, angry sometimes because his standards are so high and he wants to accomplish so much. So we all have our crosses. I pray for my friends and family (and myself, of course) to put the word first and grow, and I consider you my friend. Thanks for your comments. I am just finishing uploading the sequel to Benny and the Bank Robber (finally). Take a look at it when you get a chance.


Karen Thank you Mary, It has taken me years to stand in the midst of the disappointments that this is, but i am really growing and God knows what he is doing. I have no choice now but faith and the Word. I am so broken there is nothing else or I would not go on. Thanks for the prayers.Most people do not see the real me because their faith is weak. Someone like you and a few others I can trust. Thank you.


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