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Tyler Johnson Was Here
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Wow, I really wasn't a fan of this one at all and that bums me out, because I was fully expecting to love TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE. Since my feelings about this are so complicated and the subject matter is so delicate, I'm going to list out my thoughts in bullet points. (Bullet points are so much easier!)
Some thoughts:
1. I loved what this book was trying to do, and even if it didn't quite succeed, the publication of books like THE HATE U GIVE and TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE not only gives the Black Lives Matter movement more exposure, it puts books featuring kids of color into the hands of actual kids of color with stories that they can relate to (whether in a good or bad way). That's nothing to sneeze at, and I can appreciate the value of books like TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE even if I don't enjoy them.
2. Comparisons to THE HATE U GIVE are going to be inevitable. They are very similar stories: two high school kids of color who feel a lot of pressure to "act white" in order to be successful, who live in a low-income/racially diverse area with lots of criminal/gang activity, whose lives are torn apart by police brutality spurred on by racial discrimination that ends up starting a local movement. I don't think the similarity is a bad thing, because like I said before, Black Lives Matter is a movement representing real victims of police brutality, and those narratives are important. But it's my opinion that THE HATE U GIVE is a much better book, and handles the subject matter better.
3. The characters in here feel very undeveloped. I didn't get much of a sense of who Tyler was, whereas the main character in THUG all but leaped from the pages. I would have liked to have gotten a better sense of his character, because that might have made me like him more. He just felt very bland and passive to me, and I couldn't figure out if that was meant to be intentional or not. His choices, particularly the one at the end involving his future, didn't make sense and seemed to be fueled for the sake of keeping the story moving. All of his friends are very one-note, and his sort-of love interest, when she appears, kind of just feels like the generic manic pixie dreamgirl type.
4. All the white people in this book are assholes. This kind of ties into the third bullet point - all the bad people in this book, like the cops and the mean principal and the well-meaning, but white guilt apologist "I-have-a-diversity-checklist-in-my-back-pocket-and-that-checklist-says-I-must-be-nice-to-you-for-diversity-related-reasons" MIT representative are just hilarious stereotypes of white people being shitty in various shitty ways. That cop, man. What the actual fresh hell was he doing. What a psychopath. I couldn't help but compare the cop scenes in here with the cop scene in THUG, where the cop did what he did because his racism surfaced during a snap decision he made because he was afraid. Here, it was just like the cop decided he was going to be all, "Yaaaaay! Power abuse is fun!"
Edit: Removed Principal Dodson from the "white people are assholes" section because apparently he was black and I missed this is my skim-a-thon. My bad.
I'm glad I was approved for an advance reader copy of this book and I'm sorry I didn't like this more. I see that at least some of my friends on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ really enjoyed this book, so maybe you will, too.
Thanks to Netgalley/the publisher for the review copy!
1.5 to 2 stars
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Nenia � I yeet my books back and forth � Campbell's review
bookshelves: ya-ya-land, poc-interracial, netgalley, black-author
Mar 18, 2018
bookshelves: ya-ya-land, poc-interracial, netgalley, black-author
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Wow, I really wasn't a fan of this one at all and that bums me out, because I was fully expecting to love TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE. Since my feelings about this are so complicated and the subject matter is so delicate, I'm going to list out my thoughts in bullet points. (Bullet points are so much easier!)
Some thoughts:
1. I loved what this book was trying to do, and even if it didn't quite succeed, the publication of books like THE HATE U GIVE and TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE not only gives the Black Lives Matter movement more exposure, it puts books featuring kids of color into the hands of actual kids of color with stories that they can relate to (whether in a good or bad way). That's nothing to sneeze at, and I can appreciate the value of books like TYLER JOHNSON WAS HERE even if I don't enjoy them.
2. Comparisons to THE HATE U GIVE are going to be inevitable. They are very similar stories: two high school kids of color who feel a lot of pressure to "act white" in order to be successful, who live in a low-income/racially diverse area with lots of criminal/gang activity, whose lives are torn apart by police brutality spurred on by racial discrimination that ends up starting a local movement. I don't think the similarity is a bad thing, because like I said before, Black Lives Matter is a movement representing real victims of police brutality, and those narratives are important. But it's my opinion that THE HATE U GIVE is a much better book, and handles the subject matter better.
3. The characters in here feel very undeveloped. I didn't get much of a sense of who Tyler was, whereas the main character in THUG all but leaped from the pages. I would have liked to have gotten a better sense of his character, because that might have made me like him more. He just felt very bland and passive to me, and I couldn't figure out if that was meant to be intentional or not. His choices, particularly the one at the end involving his future, didn't make sense and seemed to be fueled for the sake of keeping the story moving. All of his friends are very one-note, and his sort-of love interest, when she appears, kind of just feels like the generic manic pixie dreamgirl type.
4. All the white people in this book are assholes. This kind of ties into the third bullet point - all the bad people in this book, like the cops and the mean principal and the well-meaning, but white guilt apologist "I-have-a-diversity-checklist-in-my-back-pocket-and-that-checklist-says-I-must-be-nice-to-you-for-diversity-related-reasons" MIT representative are just hilarious stereotypes of white people being shitty in various shitty ways. That cop, man. What the actual fresh hell was he doing. What a psychopath. I couldn't help but compare the cop scenes in here with the cop scene in THUG, where the cop did what he did because his racism surfaced during a snap decision he made because he was afraid. Here, it was just like the cop decided he was going to be all, "Yaaaaay! Power abuse is fun!"
Edit: Removed Principal Dodson from the "white people are assholes" section because apparently he was black and I missed this is my skim-a-thon. My bad.
I'm glad I was approved for an advance reader copy of this book and I'm sorry I didn't like this more. I see that at least some of my friends on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ really enjoyed this book, so maybe you will, too.
Thanks to Netgalley/the publisher for the review copy!
1.5 to 2 stars
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Reading Progress
March 15, 2018
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Started Reading
March 15, 2018
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March 15, 2018
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ya-ya-land
March 15, 2018
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poc-interracial
March 15, 2018
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netgalley
March 15, 2018
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7.57%
"So far, this is reminding me a LOT of THE HATE U GIVE, only with a boy narrator instead of a girl narrator."
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March 17, 2018
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33.55%
"That was tacky as hell, Mr. Policeman, getting her hopes up like that. Good person fail."
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102
March 18, 2018
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Finished Reading
July 31, 2024
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Yes, that is exactly it. :-)

I also notice we get only one POV in these books so far. They don't show the officer or their family's POV. It's just not interesting to read completely one sided books.

I also notice we ..."
I think the reason these books are written from a single perspective is because for so long, people of color have been silenced and BLM is a symbol of that institutionalized inequality that is still very much present in our justice system.
I like hearing this perspective, since often it's a white, straight male perspective that's touted most in the media. But yes, I do also appreciate nuance, and that was one of the reasons I loved THE HATE U GIVE. It highlights inequality, gives strength to BLM, but also acknowledges that part of what makes racism and bigotry so insidious is that it exists on a continuum, and manifests in many ways. I get why the author made the choices he did in this book but I also think it's harmful, too, because when the racists are such cardboard villains there's a tendency for people to say, "Oh, I'm not like that at ALL," and the message is lost, whereas books like THUG made me question the choices I make and the things I say, and how they impact others - and from what I've seen in other reviews, many people also found themselves questioning not just society's choices and actions, but also their own.


Maybe you'll like it! Who knows, we might have opposite opinions about these books. :-)

I feel the same way about THUG! I hope you enjoy this one, too!


I personally did not like it as much as THE HATE U GIVE, but yes, they have similar themes.

You might still enjoy it!

You might still enjoy it!"
Yeah I might still give it a go if I come across it somewhere. I bought The Hate U Give months ago but my TBR is so out of control, it could be a while before I get to it!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought so! Like, I'm 100% sure there are people who are that awful but most of them have learned to be sneakier, and that makes them even more evil. Their portrayal in the book felt way too extra.


Cool, I removed Dodson from the "white people are assholes" section and left a note. I started skimming after the first couple chapters and must have missed that description. Thanks!

Apparently so! I deleted the ARC from my ereader so I don't know if something that this was maybe added in later or what. If it was, I completely missed it.

I was also put off by what was possibly supposed to be nods to other books but felt more like direct steals. In All-American Boys, a woman trips over Rashad’s duffel bag in a store and a cop thinks he’s stealing and beats him to a pulp. In TJWH, there’s a random scene where a random boy trips over his duffel bag in a store and the cop thinks he’s stealing and beats him to a pulp. A scene that really doesn’t have anything to do with the main plot. He also steals a line from Monster by WDM- “the best time to cry is at night.� And then there’s the frequent allusions to 2Pac from The Hate U Give, the obligatory protest (which was as violent as in THUG but abruptly ended). The white boy with the hashtag sharpied onto his shirt is from All-American Boys. I’m sure there were other things, like from Dear Martin (the letters?) but I haven’t read it in a while. With all of this, I had to think- well, what was really your story?
But I’ll still give it as an extension book to my kids. I like The Hate U Give, All-American Boys, Dear Martin and Ghost Boys better. I felt each gave a really unique and interesting perspective. Reading I’m Not Dying With You Tonight next. Hopefully that’ll be better.

Hi Jodi! Thanks for your informed comment. Wow, your curriculum sounds amazing. Love the books you're teaching and what a great idea to compare and contrast. Sad to hear that this book seems to be even more derivative than I thought, but as you said, if kids like the books it was inspired by and want to read more content, then who's to say no? If they get more enjoyment out of it than we did, that's a good thing. :)