Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ

Cecily's Reviews > The Woman in Black

The Woman in Black by Susan         Hill
Rate this book
Clear rating

by
1199525
's review

it was amazing
bookshelves: ghosts-and-mysteries

A chilling, traditional ghost story, with a strong Victorian feel: a lone lawyer goes to a spooky house on the marshes, plagued by stories of madness and death. No great surprises, but shocking none-the-less. It is skilfully written, so that most of the scary stuff happens in your head, rather than being explicit on the page.

NARRATOR
Arthur Kipps, the main character and the narrator is very pragmatic and always tries to dismiss his fears and find a rational explanation, which serves to make his story more believable � and thus more alarming. All the way through, his greatest need is to uncover the truth, however unpalatable it may be. However, it’s not what he sees or hears that really scares him, but what he FEELS, and the power of the Woman in Black’s emotion. His feelings towards her change from concern through fear to anger.

However, despite his pragmatism, right at the beginning Kipps does have a strong conviction that a particular house is part of his destiny (which implies some openness to the supernatural), and when he first arrives at the town he says he felt like “a spectre at some cheerful feast�.

WEATHER IMAGERY
The weather (mist, rain, wind and sun) is a major character in the book; sometimes it parallels the situation and mood of the characters (mists and disappearances) and sometimes it is in total contrast (sun at a funeral). It could be clichéd, but, perhaps because it doesn't always match the plot, it has more dramatic weight.

BIRDS
One feature I didn’t notice on first reading was the birds. Kipps himself is a bit of a birdwatcher, and different birds make fleeting appearances: a menacing “snake-necked bird�, the woman in black looking like a carrion bird, a nice happy robin later on.

PROBLEMS WITH TIME
The first chapter jumps around in a confusing way, which doesn’t really matter plot-wise, but is disconcerting.

The bigger mystery is when it is set. Everything about it feels Victorian (foggy London, pony and trap, steam trains), but she mentions telephones, electric lights (even in a remote house on the marshes), cars, cycling as a (not particularly wealthy) boy, a grave stone from “years back� is inscribed �190...�, and Kipps makes reference to Dickens and the treatment of Victorian servants 60 years earlier. Each time I’ve read this book, I’ve been more puzzled and irritated by this, though it's still a very good book.


If you like it, The Turn of the Screw is in a similar vein.

And don’t believe those who say it is like a ghost story written by Jane Austen!
133 likes ·  âˆ� flag

Sign into Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ to see if any of your friends have read The Woman in Black.
Sign In »

Reading Progress

Finished Reading
May 30, 2008 – Shelved
June 9, 2008 – Shelved as: ghosts-and-mysteries

Comments Showing 1-50 of 54 (54 new)


Christine People said it was like a ghost story written by Jane Austen? Were they reading the same book?


Cecily That's what I wonder. Or more likely, they've never read Austen.


Werner I haven't read the book myself; but just judging from the features you describe, my guess as to the chronological setting would be about 1950. Steam trains were still in use then, if I understand correctly. In the movie version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, which is set in the early 1940s (not much earlier than 1950), the children are picked up at the train station in a horse-drawn trap. And isn't London pretty much still foggy? :-)


message 4: by Cecily (last edited Jan 05, 2014 09:25AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cecily The '50s is probably about right - but only because of the telephones and steam trains. In every other respect, it feels much longer ago, and that slipperiness (which I'm sure is deliberate) can be irritating.

As for fog, London has far less of it than places like San Francisco, and the Clean Air Act of the mid '50s got rid of smog.


Werner Cecily wrote: "As for fog, London has far less of it than places like San Francisco, and the Clean Air Act of the mid '50s got rid of the smog."

I did not know that; thanks for dispelling that stereotype! That's another factor that might suggest a roughly 1950 date, then, just before the change in the quality of London's air that the Clean Air Act would bring about.


Oria Great review, Cecily. I liked this better than The Turn of the Screw. A great book and the movie wasn't too bad, either.


Cecily I wasn't so keen on the film (Daniel Radcliffe in particular), but the stage show is excellent.


message 8: by Henry (new)

Henry Avila Beautiful review, Cecily. Sounds like a great book to read.


Cecily Yes, it's quite short, and in many ways, quite an easy read, but there's plenty of depth there too.


message 10: by Diane (last edited May 08, 2014 01:37PM) (new)

Diane I haven't read the book either but Arthur Kipps
was the hero in H.G. Well's "Kipps" - how could
the author steal his name!! In "Kipps" he
marries Ann who goes out to work as a maid and
when they marry she has plenty to say about the
design of the house that Kipps wants to build
for her. That is a very famous
book and Jane Austen wasn't involved.


Cecily How strange. I wonder if it's a co-incidence or a deliberate homage?


message 12: by Apatt (new)

Apatt How did this review slip under my radar? Any way this sounds great and I definitely want read it. Cheers! :)


Cecily I can't answer your question, but it's quite short, so easy to squeeze into a schedule - but don't rush it too much, or you'll miss things.


message 14: by Apatt (new)

Apatt Cecily wrote: "I can't answer your question, but it's quite short, so easy to squeeze into a schedule - but don't rush it too much, or you'll miss things."

Happy election day! Don't vote for Whathisname who wants to exterminate the Doctor!


Cecily Thanks, Apatt, though I'm not sure "happy" is quite the word. Rest assured, I didn't (nor ever would) vote for UKIP. Polls have just closed, but it could be a while before we know what we've got.


message 16: by Apatt (new)

Apatt Cecily wrote: "Thanks, Apatt, though I'm not sure "happy" is quite the word. Rest assured, I didn't (nor ever would) vote for UKIP. Polls have just closed, but it could be a while before we know what we've got."

Almost as exciting as the naming of Charlotte Diana Whatshername ;)


Cecily Much more exciting - and surprising. Rather like aspects of The Woman in Black!


message 18: by Apatt (new)

Apatt Cecily wrote: "Much more exciting - and surprising. Rather like aspects of The Woman in Black!"

I heard UKIP performed poorly at the polls because they lost the Whovian votes? I bet next time Nigel will wear a fez and a bowtie when canvassing.


Cecily UKIP got lots of votes, but thinly spread (so just one MP, who isn't Farage) - the opposite of the Scottish Nationalists. That's First Past The Post for you.


message 20: by Apatt (new)

Apatt Ere! How come you reviewed this horror book? where's your review of The Woman in White? What about that woman whose dress is either blue or gold?


message 21: by Cecily (last edited Oct 12, 2016 12:46AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cecily Apatt wrote: "Ere! How come you reviewed this horror book?"

I don't read horror-horror, but this is an old-fashioned spine-chiller.

Apatt wrote: "where's your review of The Woman in White?"

It's very old, so very short and shallow: /review/show...
(You've even commented on it.)


Kevin Ansbro I've read the book, watched the movie and seen the theatre adaptation! (Didn't buy the t-shirt, though).

A proper good old-fashioned ghost story for Halloween, and one which I thoroughly enjoyed. Albeit a few years ago.
Same couldn't be said for the theatre adaptation; I very nearly burst out laughing at a scary bit that was unintentionally hilarious (as did my wife and several members of the audience).

So, don't see the show, read the book!
Superb review, Cecily!

(I will add this to my 'books read' list now).


message 23: by Apatt (new)

Apatt USD 8.95 for 178 pages! Now that's horrifying!


Cecily Apatt wrote: "USD 8.95 for 178 pages! Now that's horrifying!"

Quality, not quantity. Size isn't everything. Alternatively, can you borrow it from a library or friend? Or, given how short it is, you could be one of these people who visits a bookshop several times a week and leaves their bookmark in a copy they put at the back of the shelf! Not that I'm recommending that, of course.


Cecily Kevin wrote: "I've read the book, watched the movie and seen the theatre adaptation!...
I very nearly burst out laughing at a scary bit that was unintentionally hilarious...
Superb review, Cecily!"


I really enjoyed the stage version - twice - and even though I knew the plot, it made me jump, rather than laugh, both times. Yes, it was very "stagey", but it was theatre not cinema, so I rather liked that. Thanks, Kevin.


message 26: by Amy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Amy I have never heard this described as a ghost story written by Jane Austen. Wasn't she a fan of Anne Radcliffe and her over the top imagery and horror props?
I agree with you that the scary part of the book is inside our heads. The seclusion created by Hill's writing was what got me the most.
Great review Cecily, as usual! :)


Cecily Amy wrote: "I have never heard this described as a ghost story written by Jane Austen. Wasn't she a fan of Anne Radcliffe..."

I'm not sure where I heard or read that, but it sounded daft at the time, and even more so when I reread this. I'm not a big Austen fan, so am not very aware of who she liked, though I vaguely remember some Gothic tome getting a mention in one of her own novels. Thanks, Amy.


Werner Amy wrote: "I have never heard this described as a ghost story written by Jane Austen. Wasn't she a fan of Anne Radcliffe and her over the top imagery and horror props?
I agree with you that the scary part of..."


In Northanger Abbey, Austen's heroine, Catherine, is an avid reader of Gothic novels (and gets into some trouble when she lets her Gothic-inspired imagination run away with her!). Austen mentions a couple of Ann Radcliffe's novels by name, as well as several other actual Gothic novels of that day, some of which Catherine's friend and fellow Gothic fan assures her are all (deliciously) "horrid." There's some satire here, but it's an affectionate satire, since Austen wasn't above reading and enjoying some of these works herself (though her own writing is quite different; she's a proto-Realist, not a Gothic Romantic.)


Cecily Werner wrote: "In Northanger Abbey, Austen's heroine, Catherine, is an avid reader of Gothic novels..."

Ah, yes, that's the one. The baseball-playing Catherine Morland. Thanks, Werner.

Werner wrote: "...she's a proto-Realist, not a Gothic Romantic."

Something to ponder.


Werner No problem, Cecily! :-)


message 31: by Amy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Amy Werner wrote: "Amy wrote: "I have never heard this described as a ghost story written by Jane Austen. Wasn't she a fan of Anne Radcliffe and her over the top imagery and horror props?
I agree with you that the s..."


I couldn't remember which Austen book this was mentioned in, so thank you Werner! I read Radcliffe's The Mysteries of Udolpho solely because of Austen's enjoyment of it. I found it to be rather long and contrived, unfortunately. I'm sure it was thrilling and a bit scandalous in her time! :)


Cecily Amy wrote: "...I read Radcliffe's The Mysteries of Udolpho solely because of Austen's enjoyment of it...."

I remember contemplating doing that too. It doesn't sound like a great loss that I didn't.


Werner The Mysteries of Udolpho is on my to-read list --but that's a very, very loong list. :-)


message 34: by Amy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Amy Werner wrote: "The Mysteries of Udolpho is on my to-read list --but that's a very, very loong list. :-)"

Perhaps one day! :)


message 35: by Amy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Amy Cecily wrote: "Amy wrote: "...I read Radcliffe's The Mysteries of Udolpho solely because of Austen's enjoyment of it...."

I remember contemplating doing that too. It doesn't sound like a great loss that I didn't."


It satisfied my curiosity, but I probably wouldn't read another book by Radcliffe.


message 36: by Cecily (last edited Oct 15, 2016 01:45PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cecily Werner wrote: "The Mysteries of Udolpho is on my to-read list --but that's a very, very loong list. :-)"

I'll be interested to read your thoughts if it ever does reach the top of the pile.

Amy wrote: "It satisfied my curiosity, but I probably wouldn't read another book by Radcliffe."

Or maybe you needn't bother.


Werner Cecily, thanks for your interest. I do plan to read it someday (my tolerance for old-fashioned diction and long tomes is greater than some people's), but it's apt to be a long wait measured in decades. :-)


Cecily Werner wrote: "I do plan to read it someday... but it's apt to be a long wait measured in decades. :-) "

Let's both plan to stick around till then.
;)


message 39: by Leo (new) - rated it 4 stars

Leo Robertson Totally agree! Not such a surprising story, but skilfully told, and that's hard to come by :)


Cecily Leo wrote: "Totally agree! Not such a surprising story, but skilfully told, and that's hard to come by :)"

Which raises an interesting question: which is harder and rarer: good writing, or a good story?

(It chimes with my current reading of Stephen King's On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft, in which he's just been advising against plotting. Start with a situations, and by describing that, see where it takes you. Sounds strange, but makes more sense in context and I'll elaborate in my eventual review.)


message 41: by Alfred (last edited Nov 02, 2016 05:39AM) (new)

Alfred Haplo Thanks Cecily, I've always been curious about this story. Did it make up for Stephen King's poorer offering, The Shining?


Cecily Alfred wrote: "Thanks Cecily, I've always been curious about this story. Did it make up for Stephen King's poorer offering, The Shining?"

The story isn't very original, but that's (sort of) the point. I think it's really well done. And almost anything is better than The Shining, imo. This, I've read and seen performed several times; The Shining I was too bored to finish even once.


Agnieszka Sounds like perfect reading for rainy November evening . Thanks for that review Cecily since that novel is sitting too long on my shelf. Also I love such atmospheric tales .


Cecily Agnieszka wrote: "Sounds like perfect reading for rainy November evening . Thanks for that review Cecily since that novel is sitting too long on my shelf. Also I love such atmospheric tales ."

Yes, it is. And very atmospheric. Thanks, Agnieszka.


Nandakishore Mridula I have wanted to read this for a long time, but if it's like "The Turn of the Screw", then maybe not for me. I started that novella many times and had to give up in between.


Cecily Nandakishore wrote: "I have wanted to read this for a long time, but if it's like "The Turn of the Screw", then maybe not for me. I started that novella many times and had to give up in between."

Hmm. It's like TotS in terms of atmosphere and genre and length, but the prose is more... "accessible" isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what is. Can you play safe and borrow, rather than buy?


Nandakishore Mridula Cecily wrote: "Hmm. It's like TotS in terms of atmosphere and genre and length, but the prose is more... "accessible" isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what is. Can you play safe and borrow, rather than buy?"

I will try the second-hand bookshops in Mumbai here: sometimes you get the books dirt cheap, especially if you bargain.


Angel Oh your review really inspired me, and took a view of the book from another perspective, thank you.


Cecily Angel wrote: "Oh your review really inspired me, and took a view of the book from another perspective, thank you."

And thank you for letting me know. That's circularity of opinion, viewpoint, and sharing is what I love about GR.


message 50: by Ishan (new)

Ishan Do you know if this would be appropriate for a 5th grader? thanks!


« previous 1
back to top