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Romanov by Nadine Brandes
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DNF.

Please do not mistake the lengthy ramblings below for "I-read-the-whole-book-and-here-are-my-thoughts," but rather, "I-decided-not-to-continue-and-here's-why."

*deep breath* *cracks knuckles*

Romanov is a historical fantasy novel starring 16-year-old Anastasia Nikolaevna, daughter of the last Tsar of Russia. We learn within the first few pages that Anastasia, or "Nastya," aspires to become a Russian 'spell master' (i.e., practitioner of an ancient brand of magic that lets you speak special words & thereby receive powerful favors). We also learn that Nastya's teacher/mentor in the basics of this art was none other than Grigori Rasputin.

There's a lot to unpack there, so let's start from the beginning.

First off, this type of "spell magic" is the exact same thing that got so many Christians so upset about Harry Potter. Now, for the record, I don't have a problem with HP; mainly because HP to my mind is clearly not intended as a representation of our real world. Howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I do think spells like these become a lot more--shall we say--Murky when they're introduced into a real-world, historical setting [like the Russian revolution] and when they involve real, historical practitioners of black magic [like my man Rasputin over here].

Because that's who Rasputin WAS. You can't get around that part of his reputation. And you definitely can't convince me that his historical reputation as "Powerful, Successful Dabbler in the Occult" wasn't a big part of the reason why he was chosen for the fictional role of "Powerful Magic Teacher" in the first place.

I was, as I say, disturbed. But I was willing to continue reading to learn more about what sorts of things this fictional magic system does. I soon found out.

On page 11:

"Thirteen years ago, I'd watched Mamma and Papa open a layer of that painted doll and release the now-forbidden spell that brought us Alexei."

[Alexei being her younger brother.]

Yes. You read that right. These people have a magic spell that allows them to conceive a human baby.

And not [if I'm reading this correctly] to 'help' conceive, not to cure dysfunction or whatever; but to literally, directly conceive a child. To create new life where none existed.

Do you See *rubs nose pensively* do you Begin to See where the Problem might lie, Jeeves?

Real talk: I am not comfortable with seeing the power to create life allocated to human beings, through magic, even in a fantasy world with no God. But, this ISN'T a fantasy world with no God!!! This is our real, historical world, populated with real historical figures who profess to believe in God and Jesus and the Bible; and yet, when they wanna make a baby, they turn to magic and not to prayer. Which is . . . disturbing. The fact that this magic [allegedly, according to the story logic] ACTUALLY WORKS is 1000x more disturbing.

Like. Would you mind telling me, Mr. and Mrs. Romanov--would you mind telling me just WHO you imagine sent you this baby; and WHAT he/she/it/they might stand to gain in return?

Moreover, I'm not at all comforted by Nastya's assurances that this baby-creating spell is now "forbidden." Sure, maybe they don't use it any more; but they used it at least once? And it worked?? And now they have this living, breathing kiddo walking around who (by their own admission) was FedEx'd to their parents' bedroom from Somewhere in the Cosmos, and definitely not from the Big Fella Upstairs??? I can't get on board with that, people. I just can't.

The ONLY WAY I could continue reading this book with a clear conscience is if I had assurances that the whole point of the story would be overthrowing the magic system--if Nastya's character arc were aimed at her realizing that Rasputin had led her whole family astray and that she should never touch any of these spells, ever again. That, however, isn't the impression I get from other readers. In fact--I've been told that the climax involves Nastya using a spell to (view spoiler)

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Life is sacred. There is a reason we mere mortals don't get to control it. It should stay that way. Even in fantasy, I believe, it should stay that way.

And Rasputin was horrible.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

*peace out*
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Reading Progress

June 30, 2018 – Shelved
June 30, 2018 – Shelved as: to-read
May 16, 2019 – Started Reading
May 16, 2019 –
page 12
3.56% "Nastya: *proudly* I learned spells from Rasputin!

Me: *spits out drink*

yOU WHAT NOW"
May 18, 2019 – Finished Reading
October 13, 2019 – Shelved as: fantasy

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message 1: by Olivia (new)

Olivia For realskies though


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Katie Hanna Olivia wrote: "For realskies though"

THE COLORSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


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Olivia AND THE SWIRLS


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Mary Herceg I'm not even going to read this book, and it was cover-love at first sight when I saw it in a cover reveal post. Gorgeous!


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Katie Hanna @Mary--I know!!! Absolutely beautiful!!!


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G. Buckner YES


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Katie Hanna Gracelyn wrote: "YES"

:D


message 8: by Katelyn (new)

Katelyn Buxton Great review! I feel similarly about magic in books, so I’m sorry to hear that about this one, since I’ve enjoyed Brandes’s work in the past. :/


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Allison Tebo Great review, Katie! I am removing this from my TBR pile!


message 10: by Olivia (new)

Olivia GIRL I LOVE YOUR REVIEWWWWWS.

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I think this will be a no-go for me, too.


Eva-Joy This was extremely interesting to read. I have a couple thoughts...

1. I never took the whole Alexei thing to mean that the magic spell literally created him. There's stuff further into the book, IIRC, where Nastya talks a little more about Alexei's birth and I think the spell just *helped* the Tsarina conceive?

2. Nastya definitely does not resurrect dead people. Basically, what the spell does is remove the person's spirit from their body until the spell word is uttered again, in which instance the spirit goes back into the body. Any damages incurred by the body while the spirit is absent will reverse when the spirit returns. It's kind of complicated, but Nastya never raises the dead. I think that would be crossing an even bigger line than making Rasputin sympathetic? Or at least on par with.

Anyway, I enjoyed this 'review' (can't be a proper one since you DNF'ed it, but that's okay).


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Allison Tebo @Eva, welp still sounds plenty freaky to me.


Eva-Joy Allison wrote: "@Eva, welp still sounds plenty freaky to me."

It is, tbh. I mainly read the book for Nadine's gorgeous writing and the characters because the magic elements were a little out of my comfort zone.


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Jennifer Fantastic review! Having read a lot about the Romanovs, I imagine this book would feel like desecration to me. Definitely will not waste time on it.


message 15: by Kate (last edited May 18, 2019 02:46PM) (new)

Kate Willis Can I rate this review five stars? Like, seriously, thank you for saying all these things. I agree completely. (And the FedEx bit had me snorting.)


message 16: by Kellyn (new)

Kellyn Roth ^^ haven't read it but from what I've heard ... yepppppppp


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Katie Hanna Katelyn wrote: "Great review! I feel similarly about magic in books, so I’m sorry to hear that about this one, since I’ve enjoyed Brandes’s work in the past. :/"

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I was disappointed too because I really wanted to like this one.


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Katie Hanna Allison wrote: "Great review, Katie! I am removing this from my TBR pile!"

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review <3


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Katie Hanna Olivia wrote: "GIRL I LOVE YOUR REVIEWWWWWS.

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I think this will be a no-go for me, too."


THANK YOU VERY MUCH, INDEED, SIR *grins*

Erm, yeah, I do not think it would be your "speed" either.


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Katie Hanna Eva wrote: "This was extremely interesting to read. I have a couple thoughts...

1. I never took the whole Alexei thing to mean that the magic spell literally created him. There's stuff further into the book, ..."


*frowns heavily*

Both of those things are still unacceptable to me. If you believe in God you SHOULD NOT be using magic of any kind to conceive or help conceive a child. That is supposed to be up to Him. Because magic is way different than any scientific or "natural" means of aid--magic is, "okay, I'm calling on a supernatural power now," and then that begs the question of WHICH supernatural power and it's just . . . urgh. Messy. Really, really, really messy. At least to my mind.

And I don't like the idea of separating people's spirits from their bodies, either; because that would mean that your body died [the definition of death being, soul separating from body]; but then your spirit goes back into it and you're suddenly not dead????

So . . . yeah. I'm not trying to tell you to feel differently about the book, yourself; I'm just saying I absolutely am not cool with continuing to read it, on MY end. (Which, I know you understand, of course. <3 )


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Katie Hanna Jennifer wrote: "Fantastic review! Having read a lot about the Romanovs, I imagine this book would feel like desecration to me. Definitely will not waste time on it."

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review :D


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Katie Hanna Kate wrote: "Can I rate this review five stars? Like, seriously, thank you for saying all these things. I agree completely. (And the FedEx bit had me snorting.)"

So glad you liked it, girl! <3

Haha, yes!!! My dad works for FedEx so it just came to me automatically, and I knew I had to use it xD


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Katie Hanna Kellyn wrote: "^^ haven't read it but from what I've heard ... yepppppppp"

*sighs* yep


message 24: by Hannah (new)

Hannah WOWWWW. Thanks for the honest review...I had vaguely wondered about it, and am SO glad I didn’t try a copy. Thanks for your strong stand on the magic part; that is definitely wrong.


Eva-Joy Katie wrote: "Eva wrote: "This was extremely interesting to read. I have a couple thoughts...

1. I never took the whole Alexei thing to mean that the magic spell literally created him. There's stuff further int..."


Those are still good points. And, yeah, I wasn't one hundred percent comfortable with either of those aspects. It's just one of those things we agree to disagree on. ;)


message 26: by Cathy (new)

Cathy I would be less bothered if it was a mainstream book. I hold Christian fiction to a higher standards and have certain expectations so this would probably bother me too!


message 27: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Cathy, I’m the same! If it says it has values, I expect to find values portrayed, and thus it colors my ratings more.


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Katie Hanna Hannah wrote: "WOWWWW. Thanks for the honest review...I had vaguely wondered about it, and am SO glad I didn’t try a copy. Thanks for your strong stand on the magic part; that is definitely wrong."

No problem. ;-) Honest reviews are important to me, too.


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Katie Hanna Eva wrote: "Katie wrote: "Eva wrote: "This was extremely interesting to read. I have a couple thoughts...

1. I never took the whole Alexei thing to mean that the magic spell literally created him. There's stu..."


Indeed, that is so ;)


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Katie Hanna Cathy wrote: "I would be less bothered if it was a mainstream book. I hold Christian fiction to a higher standards and have certain expectations so this would probably bother me too!"

That's how I feel, too. I don't want there to be a disconnect between what the characters profess to believe, and how they act.


message 31: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Yes. What you believe is one of the primary forces behind how you act.


message 32: by Mary (new)

Mary Herceg Great review, Katie. Thank you so much for informing us of what you think about it. Cause there are others of us who feel the same way, and we all need to know. It's so important to know what's in a book, especially a popular one with lots of positive reviews that don't mention content.


mary liz Huh. Interesting to hear your thoughts. To be honest, I had no idea this would bother you, but that just goes to show how good I am at knowing what my friends will like. *cough* :P

I definitely see your points and am pretty wary of magic in books. I'm still not sure where I stand on it, and the magic in this was definitely a Little Iffy. Not to the extent that I would DNF it or even not recommend it, but still, it raises some questions. Now, personally, I wasn't disturbed by this because I kind of viewed it as similar to fairytales where a character will have some kind of "spell" that causes them to conceive. (Can't think of an example, but pretty sure there are several of these.) Plus, it was implied later on in the book that Rasputin's use of magic wasn't All That Great (at least, that's the implication I saw). However, it definitely all comes down to personal convictions, and I support you in yours. :)

Btw, I'm not saying I'm 100% okay with the magic in this book; just clarifying some of my thoughts.


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G. Buckner Ohhhhh, wow. I was so pumped for this. I don't know how I feel now.


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Katie Hanna Mary wrote: "Great review, Katie. Thank you so much for informing us of what you think about it. Cause there are others of us who feel the same way, and we all need to know. It's so important to know what's in ..."

No problem, Mary! <3 I thought it was important to start a conversation about these things, so I reviewed it, even though I didn't finish it. (Of course I didn't star it, though ;-) That would be unfair . . .)


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Katie Hanna m a r y l i z wrote: "Huh. Interesting to hear your thoughts. To be honest, I had no idea this would bother you, but that just goes to show how good I am at knowing what my friends will like. *cough* :P

I definitely se..."


Hey, that's okay! :-P I knew enough from your review to know I MIGHT be bothered by the magic stuff in here--and I was.

I know what you mean there. I remember certain fairy tales that have . . . like . . . women eating special plants to conceive a child, or what have you; which I think is slightly more acceptable to me because if it's a PLANT, well it might have beneficial scientific qualities or whatever. But this struck me as way more direct, in-your-face, like "say a magic word and get a baby!!!" and it bothered me rather Intensely, as you can see ;-)

Also the fact that the entire thing takes place clearly IN OUR REAL WORLD with real people who really lived & died (the Romanovs), that made it harder for me to accept it, I think? *muses* You know how passionate I am about history, and in this case I just COULDN'T disconnect the historical characters from their real-life surroundings and imagine them in a fairytale world where this magic might be a teensy more permissible.


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Katie Hanna Gracelyn wrote: "Ohhhhh, wow. I was so pumped for this. I don't know how I feel now."

*offers commiserating chocolate* Umm, well, maybe it might strike you differently than me if you read it . . . ? I don't think these issues are going to be interpreted by all readers (including all Christian readers) in the same way.


message 38: by Molly (new)

Molly Excellent review! I was on the fence about reading this and your review helped me decide: no. 😂


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Katie Hanna Louise wrote: "Excellent review! I was on the fence about reading this and your review helped me decide: no. 😂"

Glad I could be helpful! :)


message 40: by Hanna (new)

Hanna Thanks for this review! I've always been somewhat interested in Nadine Brandes' books, since they're enjoyed by a lot of my friends, but I'll pass on the Harry Potter-esque magic.


message 41: by Tess (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tess Ooof. This makes things complicated. Good review!


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Alyssa Great review! I can safely say I'll pass on this one.


Nicole Dust Oof. That . . . doesn’t sound good. I’m glad you wrote this review - now I need to debate if I still want to read this book. Excellent review!


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Katie Hanna Hanna wrote: "Thanks for this review! I've always been somewhat interested in Nadine Brandes' books, since they're enjoyed by a lot of my friends, but I'll pass on the Harry Potter-esque magic."

No problem!

And I myself am cool with Harry Potter, but I think this goes a lot FARTHER than HP and in more problematic directions . . .


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Katie Hanna Tessa wrote: "Ooof. This makes things complicated. Good review!"

Thanks, Tessa!


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Katie Hanna Alyssa wrote: "Great review! I can safely say I'll pass on this one."

Thanks! Glad you liked it!


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Katie Hanna Nicole wrote: "Oof. That . . . doesn’t sound good. I’m glad you wrote this review - now I need to debate if I still want to read this book. Excellent review!"

thank you! I hope it helps! And definitely, don't feel like you CAN'T read it because of what I said--I just wanted to put my own reactions out there for people to think about. I know it strikes different folks differently.


Jenelle Wait... I'm a little confused. Did the CHARACTERS profess to be Christians in the book?

I mean, I agree that IRL Rasputin was the worst, but he also IRL WAS a very close friend of the Tsarina and his family because she thought he could heal her son. So clearly historical Rasputin was able to mislead the Tsar and his family into thinking he was a "good guy," even though we now know he really, really wasn't. I guess the book setting him up as someone the family would allow to teach their daughter doesn't bother me because IRL they didn't realize who he really was. [shrug]


Jenelle "her family" Tsarina and HER family. Typing too fast. Sorry!


Abigayle Claire I think they clarify a little later on that the baby spell was to ensure that this child would be a boy. But yeah, the magic was portrayed in the end (spoiler!!!) as being always what you needed at the time. Kind of like wishes. So when Nastya needs to live ... it removes her soul from her body. When they needed a son, it gave them one. Etc etc. It had some disturbing elements, but overall it was a well-done storyline with a strong theme of forgiveness. Not my favorite Brandes, though. :) I actually liked the portrayal of Rasputin because it was how Anastasia herself saw him, not how WE see him. ;)


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