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Red Dragon by Thomas  Harris
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When it comes to Hannibal Lecter, I’m like one of those music hipster douche bags that everyone hates because I’ll snootily declare that I knew about him long before most people did and that he’s sucked ever since he got really famous.

I’d read this years before the book of The Silence of the Lambs came out and led to the excellent film adaptation that skyrocketed Hannibal to the top of pop culture villains. Hell, I’m so Hannibal-hip that I’d caught Brian Cox playing him in Michael Mann’s adaptation Manhunter, and I didn’t just see it on VHS like all the other late-comers, I actually saw it in the theater. Twice! (I’m pretty sure this is the literary equivalent of claiming to have seen a band in a bar with eleven other people long before their first record deal.)

So after Thomas Harris and Hollywood ran the character into the ground after the second movie, it’s been years of shaking my head and saying, “Man, nothing’s been the same since Anthony Hopkins gave his Oscar acceptance speech.�

Since I felt like Harris was just cashing in and had pretty much ruined Hannibal in the process, I hadn’t felt the urge to revisit Red Dragon or The Silence of the Lambs in some time. I was more than skeptical about the NBC prequel TV series Hannibal, but great reviews and the involvement of Bryan Fuller got me to check it out. Not only has it been incredibly good and returned Hannibal Lecter to his creepy best, it’s clever use of events referenced as backstory in Red Dragon had me digging out my copy to refresh my memory. Even better, the show has given me a new appreciation for an old favorite and reminded me what I found compelling about it to begin with.

Will Graham was a profiler for the FBI until he was badly injured while identifying a certain gourmet serial killer whose name conveniently rhymes with ‘cannibal� which certainly made life easier for the people writing tabloid headlines. Will has retired to a happy new life with a wife and stepson in Florida until his old boss Jack Crawford comes calling and asks for help. There’s a brutal new killer dubbed the Tooth Fairy by the cops due to his habit of biting his victims. He’s killed two families after breaking into their homes and seems to be on schedule to do it again at the next full moon.

Will is reluctant to come back not just because he’s already been gutted once by a madman. He also fears that trying to think like a mass murderer isn’t the best thing for his mental health. It turns out that his concerns are justified after a tabloid journalist essentially paints a target on his back for the Tooth Fairy. Even worse, Will has to confront the man who nearly killed him and being confined to a cell doesn’t mean that Dr. Lecter can’t still do some serious damage.

Even as someone who was on the Hannibal bandwagon for a quarter of a century, it’s shocking to re-read this and realize how small of a part he actually plays in the story. Yes, he’s terrifying and his presence hangs over Will like a dark cloud, but he’s still a supporting player. Francis Dolarhyde (a/k/a The Red Dragon a/k/a The Tooth Fairy) may not have Hannibal’s culinary skills, but he’s one damn scary and slightly tragic villain while Will Graham makes for a damaged but compelling hero in the story.

I think one of the things I love best is just how much time is spent on how Will thinks. As a man with extremely high levels of empathy and a vivid imagination, Will’s ability to put himself in someone else’s shoes is a gift and a curse. Thinking like deranged killers has left him questioning if he might not be one of them, and it spills over all his emotions like a toxic oil spill.

By understanding their madness, Will can find the logic in their thinking, and it’s following that internal logic that allows Will to find the evidence they need. The breakthrough Will eventually makes is one of my all-time favorite examples of pure detection in the genre. It was in front of the reader the entire time, but it’s such an elegant solution that fits together so perfectly that Harris doesn’t have to engage in obscuring it with red herrings.

As a thriller that led to countless rip-offs and even the eventual collapse of the franchise due to it’s own success, it’s been often imitated but rarely equaled.

Check out my review of the Hannibal TV series at .

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July 2, 2008 – Shelved
April 9, 2013 – Started Reading
April 17, 2013 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Trudi (new)

Trudi I’m pretty sure this is the literary equivalent of claiming to have seen a band in a bar with eleven other people long before their first record deal.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

Man, you are old. Tell us more, grandpa!

I cannot claim such hipster (hippie?) integrity. I saw SOTL before I read the book and have not read Red Dragon. What does that make me? You can think it, just don't put it in writing.


Kemper Trudi wrote: "I saw SOTL before I read the book and have not read Red Dragon. What does that make me?"

Now I have to scoff and treat you like a Nickelback fan.


message 3: by Moira (new) - added it

Moira I’m so Hannibal-hip that I’d caught Brian Cox playing him in Michael Mann’s adaptation Manhunter, and I didn’t just see it on VHS like all the other late-comers, I actually saw it in the theater. Twice! (I’m pretty sure this is the literary equivalent of claiming to have seen a band in a bar with eleven other people long before their first record deal.)

aaaaahaha, you must have been there with one of my college ex-notboyfriends, because that was ALL he would talk about whenever someone brought up SOTL and Sir Anthony. "So overdone! So hammy! Manhunter was much creepier."


Kemper Moira wrote: "aaaaahaha, you must have been there with one of my college ex-notboyfriends, because that was ALL he would talk about whenever someone brought up SOTL and Sir Anthony. "So overdone! So hammy! Manhunter was much creepier."

I'm not that far gone. Silence is by far the better movie, but Manhunter holds up surprisingly well for looking like an episode of Miami Vice. It's better than the second version they did with Hopkins and Ed Norton.


message 5: by Trudi (new)

Trudi Kemper wrote: "and treat you like a Nickelback fan"

Jesus Christ, anything but that. Show some mercy, man.


Kemper Trudi wrote: "Jesus Christ, anything but that. Show some mercy, man."

You dug your own grave on this one.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

Great review! Makes me want to read this book again soon in the near future. I think this was the first mystery/thriller I read where the killer wasn't someone conveniently already inserted in Will's life. You know who he is from pretty early on I remember, but Harris doesn't let you know how Will is going to get to the killer. I think this was the beginning of what turned me into a snob when it comes to how a mystery/thriller is plotted and written.


Kemper Anthony wrote: "Great review! Makes me want to read this book again soon in the near future. I think this was the first mystery/thriller I read where the killer wasn't someone conveniently already inserted in Will..."

Thanks! That's one of the things I love about it too. We know who the Dragon is with the parallel story about Dolarhyde so it becomes more about how Will can track him down. And the way that works is just so damn logical and perfect that when he finally does figure it out, that moment of deduction is pure satisfaction.


Michael Thanks for the memories of this book and the Manhunter movie (another old man, I guess I yam). It was a special pleasure for me as well how Harris harnesses the psychology of Will (and in later books Clarissa) as a key ingredient for their ability to figure out their evil adversaries, cartoonish though they were. Too much focus on Hannibal himself in the subsequent books--more satisfying to me when he and other killers were kept more of an enigma.


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Moira Kemper wrote: "Silence is by far the better movie, but Manhunter holds up surprisingly well for looking like an episode of Miami Vice. It's better than the second version they did with Hopkins and Ed Norton."

Ohghod, the Manhunter music. My opinion of those two films is, in Manhunter everyone was sorta mediocre except William Petersen, who was brill and ripped himself off for C.S.I.decades later. But with Red Dragon, everyone -- Hopkins, Fiennes, Watson, everyone -- was great, except Ed Norton (to me at least) seemed just sort of.....affably pleasantly there, with none of the simultaneous mild creepiness and wounded antihero qualities Graham needs to be convincing. I thought Petersen really nailed both of those -- especially that scene with the kid in the grocery store, where he's just not at all reassuring that he's all better now.


Kemper Michael wrote: "Thanks for the memories of this book and the Manhunter movie (another old man, I guess I yam). It was a special pleasure for me as well how Harris harnesses the psychology of Will (and in later bo..."

I felt extra old when I realized that even the second film version of this is now over 10 years old.

I agree about the reason why the whole thing went off the rails. With this one, Will was the hero with Hannbial as supporting player and same thing with Clarice in Silence. Hannibal works as the terrifying boogeyman that helps/bedevils the lead, but when they tried to shift him into the main character and anti-hero in the next two, it just falls apart.


message 12: by Kemper (last edited Apr 18, 2013 10:57AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kemper Moira wrote: "Ohghod, the Manhunter music...."

What? You don't like Iron Butterfly?

Red Dragon had better actors, and I thought Fiennes made a good Dolarhyde and also agree that Norton seemed flat. My biggest problem with it is that it made wholesale changes in the story to incorporate more Hannibal, and it ends up like he's leading Will to all the clues. Plus, Brett Ratner directed it. Ugh.


message 13: by Robert (new)

Robert Kemper, you had my like after the first paragraph. And on top of that, you get a golf clap for once again telling it like it is and holding nothing back.


Jennie Glad to see you also like the show! I forgot I read this way back when.


Kemper Robert wrote: "Kemper, you had my like after the first paragraph. And on top of that, you get a golf clap for once again telling it like it is and holding nothing back."

Thanks!


Kemper Jennie wrote: "Glad to see you also like the show! I forgot I read this way back when."

Loving the show so far.


message 17: by Checkman (new)

Checkman I saw Manhunter in the theater two days after I graduated from Army Basic Training at Fort Leonardwood, Mo. I still like the "thrilling climax" with Iron Butterfly blasting it's seminal song. Sure it was like an episode of Miami Vice, but I liked Miami Vice. I was eighteen. In my opinion Red Dragon is TH's best novel. Good review.


Kemper Checkman wrote: "I saw Manhunter in the theater two days after I graduated from Army Basic Training at Fort Leonardwood, Mo. I still like the "thrilling climax" with Iron Butterfly blasting it's seminal song. Sure ..."

The drum solo in In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida does make for a good soundtrack while crashing through a window.


Carol Thanks for the heads up on the Hannibal series. I like Mads Mikkelsen. I may have to get antennae for the old TV so I can pick it up before it goes the way of "Firefly". Yeah every ten years I like ONE TV show and it gets canceled. Yet the Kardashian's are still on TV.


Kemper Carol wrote: "Yet the Kardashian's are still on TV. ."

But so is Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Justified, The Americans, Archer, Louie, Parks & Rec, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Sons of Anarchy, Person of Interest, Supernatural.... Damn, I gotta cut back on the TV.


Eyehavenofilter I'm with you dude....read this so long ago and saw the original movie.however I did like Hopkins version of Lecter better.


message 22: by Kemper (last edited Apr 24, 2013 09:11AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kemper Eyehavenofilter wrote: "I'm with you dude....read this so long ago and saw the original movie.however I did like Hopkins version of Lecter better."

I think Hopkins in Silence was the best, too, but he did descend into over-the-top hamminess after that. Cox was pretty good.


ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) I guess I'm like a hipster douchebag, too. I saw Manhunter in the theater, when I was 16. I didn't even know what I was going to see, I just went because my sister told me I'd like it. She was right. Miami Vice vibes or not, I still love to put in the old VHS and watch. Is it even on DVD? I should look into that.

I do want to read the book sometime, though.


message 24: by Nefariousbig (new)

Nefariousbig I love when I accidentally "unlike" something because I already "liked" it and have to "like" it again! Well, Kemp, I suppose I rrrrrrreeeeeaaaaallllly liked liked this one! 8)


Kemper Frances wrote: "I love when I accidentally "unlike" something because I already "liked" it and have to "like" it again! Well, Kemp, I suppose I rrrrrrreeeeeaaaaallllly liked liked this one! 8)"

You like me! You really like me!


Kemper ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) wrote: "I guess I'm like a hipster douchebag, too. I saw Manhunter in the theater, when I was 16. I didn't even know what I was going to see, I just went because my sister told me I'd like it. She was righ..."

I downloaded an HD version of it through XBox Live and it looked surprisingly good.


Jessica Loved your review of the book and show. :)


Kemper Jessica wrote: "Loved your review of the book and show. :)"

Thanks!


Steve Van Slyke Yes, thanks for the comments about the TV series. I was avoiding it because of the later movies. I agree with most of your comments, except the one about Fiennes being a good Dolarhyde. I thought he was way too good looking and his harelip looked more like a cold sore. I thought Tom Noonan was perfect in that role. He said in an interview that people in grocery stores would see him and quickly change aisles! In Red Dragon the movie, I felt all of the performances look liked they were mailed in but I will assume that had a lot to do with the director. And I agree that they tried too hard to insert more Hopkins/Lecter into it than it needed, obviously to cash in on the success of SOTLs. I preferred the Manhunter ending to either the book's or the Red Dragon movie. My favorite song in the soundtrack was Heartbeat by Red 7 that played over the credits.


Unicsuibhne No offence, it's great you've had this long te relationship with the books, but


Unicsuibhne It's great you've had a long term relationship with the book but your review is about movies, books and a VHS tape. You then summarise the plot. At length. Why couldn't you just review the actual book - not the sequels, not the franchise. No offence - it's just frustrating.


message 32: by Kemper (last edited Sep 02, 2014 06:48AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kemper Unicsuibhne wrote: "It's great you've had a long term relationship with the book but your review is about movies, books and a VHS tape. You then summarise the plot. At length. Why couldn't you just review the actual b..."

I must have missed the memo that said that I should write my reviews to your own expectations rather than using my Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ space as I saw fit. So I foolishly assumed I could reflect on the impact that Hannibal had on pop culture and talk about some of the character bits and plot points that make this such a great thriller. Boy, is my face red!

So in the spirit of your guidance, here's my updated book review:

"This is a very good thriller."

I hope that I am now in compliance with your personal review policy, and rest assured that in the future I will only write reviews in a fashion that you deem satisfactory.


message 33: by Toby (new) - rated it 3 stars

Toby Nicely put. I had a fear that Bryan Fuller may have lost all credibility by moving to this show but you have bumped Hannibal up the list of shows it might be worth my time looking at with this enthusiastic review of the first book that I concur with. Via your scathing comeback comment, naturally.


message 34: by Kemper (last edited Sep 02, 2014 07:36AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kemper Tfitoby wrote: "Nicely put. I had a fear that Bryan Fuller may have lost all credibility by moving to this show but you have bumped Hannibal up the list of shows it might be worth my time looking at with this enth..."

The Hannibal TV show is well worth checking out. I thought it was just going to be a weak attempt to milk the last bits of Hannibal interest, but Fuller has really turned it into something new that has become an incredibly intense pyschological thriller. And it has also turned cannibalism into food porn...


message 35: by Meg (new) - rated it 4 stars

Meg I remember reading this book about 20 years ago and then having nightmares for days. Scary as hell!!!!


message 36: by Toby (new) - rated it 3 stars

Toby Oh. That's a little disturbing....
Have you considered trying it out for yourself?

Although I must say that despite all its flaws the bloated mess of the third book, Hannibal, really did get the "food porn" aspect right. I remember thinking how classy it was to be so educated about what he wanted to eat. Unlike the rest of us nipping down to McDonalds.


Kemper Meg wrote: "I remember reading this book about 20 years ago and then having nightmares for days. Scary as hell!!!!"

It's definately a creepy one.


Kemper Tfitoby wrote: "Oh. That's a little disturbing....
Have you considered trying it out for yourself?

Although I must say that despite all its flaws the bloated mess of the third book, Hannibal, really did get the "..."


They make the food he prepares look so damn good on the show that I would be very tempted by an invitation to a Hannibal dinner party.

That is one aspect that they really carried over from the books, Hannibal's refinement even as he's making sausage out of someone's lungs.

And fair warning that the show is gory as hell. They have some of the most disturbing imagery I've seen, and it's hard to believe that it's being done by one of the usually conservative old broadcast networks.


James Sullivan Great review! Great book! Nothing creepier than reading about a serial killer when you're snuggled up in bed...


Saoirse Flaherty You write so well :)


Marcus Martin To add to the mess, Silence of the Lambs (Movie and book) are classics. Red Dragon\Manhunter are outstanding. The movie Red Dragon is weak but has interesting moments, I agree Ed Norton is unusually bad.


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