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The Aeneid by Virgil
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it was amazing
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The Aeneid is an epic tale of the journey of Aeneas, survivor of Troy's fall, and his journey to found the Roman peoples. The story is one you should read yourself and like the Greek Illiad and Oddessy (from which Virgil borrows heavily-as any Roman writer would have done at the time- 19 BCE). It is a story full of gods and goddesses, war, lust and anger. One of the great classic stories. It is one everyone should take a moment and read at least once. I highly recommend reading it in the original Latin as the phrases translate better than in modern translations..case in point is the elegance of the original Latin in the phrase "..tantaene animis caelestibus irae?" ("Can such great anger dwell in heavenly breasts?").

I shall leave all the ins and outs of the story for English majors and Classics scholars to dissect. My thing is history and the historical background for Virgil is quite interesting.

Virgil was a friend of Maecenas, a close advisor to Octavian Caesar. Octavian, not yet Augustus, had decided after the period of civil conflicts of the past several decades to aim for peace throughout the Empire. Octavian tightened laws on Roman morality and one of the ways he did this was to co-opt the writers and poets of the day. Virgil's Aeneas is the perfect ROman. He is a devoted son, great warrior and faithful to the gods. Take a close look at the basic character of Aeneas (patriotism, filial devotion, parental love, conformity to the will of heaven, and a scrupulousness in carrying out the honors due the gods)- they are precisely the same virtues Caesar was preaching. That is why Aeneas is the epitome of the Roman ideal. He never loses his self-control, never blasphemes, is never unjust, deceitful or careless in the performance of any of his obligations. There is no flaw in his character; he is never guilty of sin and although a great warrior, he prefers peace.

Not to mention throughout the story the gods and other peoples often remark on the future potential for the peoples of the Tiber river-a clear nod to stroking the egos of the Romans about their own creation myths. It is a truly magnificent work -not just as a work of storytelling, but in the subtle influence it spread throughout the Empire. Like Homer's great work- this one is Virgil's magnum opus (taking over a decade to write) and should be read by all well rounded people everywhere.
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Reading Progress

December 24, 2018 – Started Reading
December 24, 2018 – Shelved
December 24, 2018 –
page 250
56.56% ""Arma virumque cano"
"I sing of arms and the man.."

"...tantaene animis caelestibus irae?"
".. can such great anger dwell in heavenly breasts?"

Two of my favorite lines from the start of the Aeneid. My copy wasn't the same as this -but close enough. Mine also has the Latin version which is nice since I can still work my way through it :) Always good to practice Latin."
December 24, 2018 –
page 255
57.69% "Aeneas travels to Tartarus."
December 24, 2018 –
page 255
57.69% "Furor arma ministrat. "Rage supplies arms"- what a beautiful line"
December 25, 2018 –
page 267
60.41% "Aeneas sail up the Tiber river (book VII)"
December 26, 2018 –
page 277
62.67% "The Envoys to King Latinus"
December 28, 2018 –
page 308
69.68% "Evander and Aeneas counsel together."
January 7, 2019 –
page 347
78.51% "Book X- Council of the Gods"
January 12, 2019 – Shelved as: classics
January 12, 2019 – Shelved as: fantasy
January 12, 2019 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Trish (new)

Trish This is actually making me very sorry that I never had Latin in school. I can read/understand the odd phrase but not enough to enjoy this in Latin, sadly.


Sud666 Trish wrote: "This is actually making me very sorry that I never had Latin in school. I can read/understand the odd phrase but not enough to enjoy this in Latin, sadly."

Don't feel bad..this mass of idiots *points to undergrads in general* are products of schools where they know more about SJW nonsense than any actual academic skill. Latin and Ancient Greek were drilled into me well before college. If it helps, Latin is not that hard to learn how to read..it's a very practical language, also because it is foundational to Romance languages you will see many words that you can instinctively intuit. With your natural ability with languages I think reading Latin, for YOU, would not be as hard as you think. You just need a good Latin-English dictonairy and have an understanding of the sum, es, summus, estus, sunt and which endings mean what..but as a German you have an idea how to do that anyways. Honestly? 30 mins/day and within a year you will have a good background. Do it for 3 or 4? You can read Latin :)


Sud666 Trish wrote: "This is actually making me very sorry that I never had Latin in school. I can read/understand the odd phrase but not enough to enjoy this in Latin, sadly."

Sheesh if it was hard do you think I'd do it? I'm notoriously lazy now :)


message 4: by Trish (new)

Trish *lol* You do know that I was drilled to be able to be conversational in any Romanic language within 3-6 months, right?! So you telling me I'd need a year is not exactly motivating me. :P


Sud666 um no..I did not know that. Belay my last. Errr that's milispeak for "ignore what I just said"..for YOU? I'd honestly say "comfortable" reading Caesar's Gallic Wars or Cato in a year and to get the subtle things like Virgil? Give it 2, at most. If it helps..Chris didn't have any Latin background but started his senior year (to get ready for Gard school since he was going to study a lot of Roman history) and I'd say he was ready to go in about a year. Like you..our "kind" have a good grasp of learning new languages. I swear it is one of the easier languages-especially since we aren't speaking it. Just reading.


message 6: by Trish (last edited Jan 12, 2019 12:45PM) (new)

Trish Well, now you know. It's a specific learning system but I agree, you also need to have a feel for it. I might hold off on more Romanic languages in favour of Japenese though. Not my #1 choice but I think I mentioned that our new overlords are Japanese? I don't like not having at least an idea of what people are saying behind my back. Naturally, totally different language with a totally different history, alphabet, numerical system ... that's gonna take more than 6 months. *lol*
But damn you ... now I'm itching to sit down and study Latine until I can read Virgil and other works.


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Well, now you know. It's a specific learning system but I agree, you also need to have a feel for it. I might hold off on more Romanic languages in favour of Japenese though. Not my #1 choice but I..."

A used bookstore will have a cheap but good dictionary and may I recommend getting your hands on "So You Really Want to Learn Latin?" by N R R Oulton. If I run into any undregrad who asked me the best way to learn latin..that's what I'd point towards.


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Well, now you know. It's a specific learning system but I agree, you also need to have a feel for it. I might hold off on more Romanic languages in favour of Japenese though. Not my #1 choice but I..."

Also I like Japanese. Cool language..my year in Mainland and Okinawa helps a lot. It's Chinese, South East Asian languages like Javanese or Balinese, some African dialects and Aboriginal dialects I'd struggle with. My aptitude leans towards European (East and West), Spanish (both continental styles), many Asian languages..helps my parents are from India. :)


message 9: by Trish (new)

Trish Sud666 wrote: "A used bookstore will have a cheap but good dictionary and may I recommend getting your hands on "So You Really Want to Learn Latin?" by N R R Oulton. If I run into any undregrad who asked me the best way to learn latin..that's what I'd point towards."

You're the best, thanks!

Alright alright alright, I get it, you speak more languages or have at least heard more than I have. Show-off. ;P


message 10: by Paul (new) - added it

Paul I honestly thought this was on my to-read list already but... apparently not! Error corrected!


message 11: by Sheri (new) - added it

Sheri I'm glad I checked out the book profile and your review before reading. A lot of good information on the book page and really enjoyed your review. Although it's easy to find Virgil's Aeneid in many places online, I prefer to have the book in my hand.


Sud666 Sheri-I'm old school books..real books for me :)


message 13: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna Nice review! Thanks for the rec ; )


message 14: by Sheri (new) - added it

Sheri I'll take recommendations from you all day long!! You have an amazing selection of books read.


message 15: by Quo (new)

Quo A very interesting review. Not to many folks read both books about monsters and also The Aeneid & Umberto Eco. Whether you read Virgil's epic in Latin (as I labored through it ages ago) or in English (or perhaps in an interlinear version), it has elements that seem timely, in spite of the book's antiquity. Bill


Sud666 Quo wrote: "A very interesting review. Not to many folks read both books about monsters and also The Aeneid & Umberto Eco. Whether you read Virgil's epic in Latin (as I labored through it ages ago) or in Engli..."

Ah thank you. I love reading all sorts of things indeed. One never knows where one finds a gem.


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