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2666 by Roberto Bola帽o
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I hate these star ratings. I'm docking this baby one, because I honestly don't believe there's any way he was finished. This book wasn't done! I didn't read the Introduction and I'm not clear on the back story, but my vague understanding is that Bola帽o died after sending this thing to his publisher, who claims it was ready to go, but seriously, man, I just can't believe that. This book is almost great. Parts of it are totally mindblowing, but the fact of the matter is, I'm convinced that it needed one more serious edit. The thing wasn't done, and that's absolutely the most negative thing I can say about it. The most positive thing is probably that as I drew near to finishing this somewhat bloat-- er, sprawling 900-page mass of woodpulp, I began experiencing a strong sense that once I'd finished, I'd like to start over from the beginning and read the whole thing again. So yeah, 2666, unfinished though it may be, is that good. It's that good, and it's that flawed, and so what can you do? The poor guy died! So I can't really get mad at him about it, because some circumstances are beyond any author's control. It's sad, but it's true.

So yes, 2666. I haven't reviewed a book in awhile, and I'm trying to remember how this thing works.... Well, the book is kind of three (people on here say five, but to me it seemed like three) novels that are linked and overlapping in places but which are also clearly distinct from one another. The first section is about four academics (a Frenchman, an Italian, a Spaniard and a Brit walk into a conference....) who are united through their passion for Archimboldi, an elusive and mysterious German novelist. The academics' pursuit of this writer leads them to a fictionalized Mexican border city, which is plagued by an epidemic of gruesome, mostly unsolved murders of women. The second major part -- and this was where I struggled, because the combination of highly disturbing and dully redundant can get hard to take -- takes place in this Ju谩rez stand-in, and contains a brutal, relentless catalogue of raped and murdered women's bodies that goes on for literally hundreds of pages. The last section of the book follows the writer Archimboldi throughout his life, including his time in the German army during World War II. Okay, so I'm oversimplifying, but that's the basic structure of 2666.

Before I get to what I love most about Bola帽o, I'd like to say what I love second-most, and that's that I consider him to be probably the greatest straight-male feminist writer that I can think of. I don't know how based in reason this opinion is, and I can picture losing an argument with someone who wanted to challenge me, but that's just the way I felt while reading this and The Savage Detectives. On a very basic, purely emotional level, I just love the way this guy writes about women, though I don't even know that I can explain why. It's very clearly from a male perspective, and I feel that he writes about his female characters with a certain romanticized removal, which should be a problem, but for some reason I just love it. I love it! I also think this book, especially the part in the middle, which I didn't really like, about the (based-in-fact) serial murders, is a feminist text. It makes for an interesting contrast with Ellroy's My Dark Places, which covers some similar ground -- women being raped and murdered, and a subverted detective story -- but where Ellroy gets lost in the oedipal glamour of all that violence, Bola帽o takes a stark look at the economics and wider misogyny of a society and forces us to see the pages of raped and strangled young factory workers for what they are, without any romance or horseshit whatsoever....

Which gets me to what I really love best about this writer: put simply and meaninglessly, the way he writes about all the bad and good things of this world. Oh gee.... it might be impossible for me to say just what I mean! But I guess I have to try, right? That's why we're all here, yeah?

I, like at least 99% of the human race, find it extremely difficult to live in this world. Even when things are dandy for me, my vague awareness of the incomprehensible magnitude of brutality and suffering on earth remains nearly unbearable most of the time. Of course, I am simultaneously so crushed and awed by the beauty and splendor of everything that I pretty much feel like screaming my head off almost all of the time. So, I know it sounds a little weird spelled out like so, but I assume that a lot of people feel this way, and I gotta imagine this is just one basic aspect of human experience. It's just the classic position between a rock and a hard place, or maybe more like being suspended between two equally powerful magnets, at this magical point of painfully vibrating stasis, where the unstoppable force of, say, I dunno, genocide, meets the immovable object of (sorry, this is dumb) love.... or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, everything is always so terrible that you just want to die. But everything is always so wonderful that you can't bear the thought of dying. And that's how we live, every day, and it's nuts!

"Okay," you're muttering now.... "Enough with your mixed metaphors, Jessica. What on earth are you trying to tell us about Roberto Bola帽o's novel 2666???" Well, fine. Bola帽o is -- again, please excuse me -- a reader's writer. I believe he really gets that good literature is the over-the-counter medication that can temporarily relieve the symptoms of this agonizing and incurable condition in which we all find ourselves. A lot of writers know this, and so they try to write about tragedy and cruelty but also the joy of being alive, but obviously doing this right is really pretty tricky, and IMHO Bola帽o pulls it off way better than most other people ever have.

One reason why is that I think Bola帽o grasps how the pains of the world are not really so qualitatively different from its pleasures. The way that Bola帽o writes about sex, I guess I'd say (to oversimplify) is not all that different from the way he writes about death. And that's how my experience of the world feels personally, so I can relate to his fiction, because it feels so familiar and true to me in that way. I had an intense experience while reading this book a couple weeks ago, when I was having a difficult time at work. One of my clients, a very young man, had unexpectedly just hanged himself, and this same day I went court with another very disturbed, unhappy, mentally-ill client I know well, who was then dragged off to jail with self-inflicted cuts all over his arms, while hysterically shouting out his innocence in open court. All this is not my presenting social work war stories for laughs or attention, but just to say that on that day I was reading the Archimboldi section of the book on my long train ride to and from the courthouse, and I had an appreciation as great as any that I've ever had, of the intersection between what I was living and what I was reading. I don't mean the topics were at all similar, but that the experience was the same. All of a sudden, the pain of living in the world, which I was feeling pretty acutely that day, became simultaneously palpable and bearable, and oh, I don't know, I probably started crying a bit on the train. Or maybe I didn't, I don't really remember.... Anyway, this, to me, is what books are ultimately for, and this is the basic purpose of writing and reading, yeah? Just on a simple utilitarian level, the horror and glory of living in this world is too vast to comprehend, much less to endure. But a book -- even an oversized book in need of one more harsh, exacting edit -- is a scaled-down diorama, a travel-sized package, a bite-sized piece we can pick up and chew. And in that moment, the untenable position of being torn apart by the excruciating contradiction of our lives is not unmanageable. Or at least, it's soothed a little. In any case, that was my experience with this book, and being as this is the main reason why I read, I guess I must've loved it, at least in parts.

Yeah, so anyway, I don't know, should I give it another star? This book had some problems. I thought the North American character was lame, and the whole Mexico section in the middle needed a ruthless edit. Also, I don't believe that this book had a real ending, and I require a fabulous ending on such a long book. At the same time, 2666 was great. It was a far more ambitious project than The Savage Detectives, but it was less perfectly realized. I recommend this to anyone who can stomach hundreds of pages about women being brutally raped, tortured, and killed, who enjoys vast, loosely-structured epic kind of things.
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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

Nice review but... Bola帽o gives me gas.


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

All right, Jessica, I'm a little late to the party, seeing as you and Brian read this thing years ago, but I just finished it, and I want to talk about the book. With someone. Anyone. But especially you two. Here's the thing. I think he did finish it. Oh, maybe he was going to put some ornaments on it, tidy up a few things, but I think he finished the book right where he wanted to. The final scene of the novel has Archimboldi meeting this Furst Puckler guy, the descendant of one who wrote some terrific books but will be remembered for nothing except for this silly little ice cream drink. And then Archimboldi heads off to Mexico, where the horrific murders are taking place, probably (spoiler alert) via his nephew. The implication of that last scene, then, is that by the year 2666, no one is going to remember Archimboldi for his books, as no one remembered Furst Puckler for his books. But they will remember Archimboldi's nephew for his sensationalistic crimes, and in that way they'll remember Archimboldi, much as they remember Furst Puckler for his stupid ice cream. We know this story will gain traction because two journalists, one in America and one in Mexico, backed by a Congresswoman, are dead set on getting the story out. So I think he did finish it. Am I way off on this? Is this at all plausible? I'm dying to know what you and Brian think.


Jessica Yeah, I didn't mean he didn't finish it as in more stuff was going to happen -- I believe he wanted it to end with the ice cream guy -- but that I didn't think the whole massive thing was as tight and effective as a writer of his caliber could have made it. I think your reading makes sense. I wish I had the book here with me so I could look back at all this stuff I've forgotten.... Part of me feels like I should reread it! I feel like you've put a lot more thought into interpreting what the overall book was "about" than I did, and I'd love to weigh in, but I don't feel that equipped....

I know you brought it up on your thread, but it's too confusing for me to post in both places, so I'm going to respond here: I thought the part about Fate was really weak! I mean, I really liked parts of it, like all the stuff with Amalfitano and his daughter, but Fate I thought was the lamest, least believable character I've seen Bola帽o create. I didn't really get what he was doing in there, and he didn't seem real to me at all.


message 4: by Mitch (last edited Jan 11, 2009 10:32PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mitch I loved Fate's section. In fact, disregarding the beautiful monologue at the beginning of the Part, I thought one of the best cluster of scenes in the book were those present at the end of Fate's section where detai of Rosa's former life was finally displayed, the whole Lynchian escape from the mansion, the meeting with the awkward blonde man, all of that. And I also found it to be particularly interesting how subtle his race was mentioned in the book. Unless I missed something really huge in my first reading, I don't recall a sentence that ever directly said that Fate was black (except that scene in the restaurant where it said something along the lines of "nobody in the restaurant was black except him.").

Jessica, I think anyone that reads 2666 once might feel the need to read it another time as do I right now.


message 5: by Manny (new)

Manny I loved your tangent about literature mediating between the horror and the glory of the world. Currently about halfway through Infinite Jest and your comments would have been as appropriate there.

You're very brave to be in social work. I know a lot of people who do that - among other things, my wife was originally a social worker. I bet it's harder in New York than it is in Stockholm, and it was no picnic in Stockholm.



message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

You were the one who got me to read The Savage Detectives. Now this? Ok.


Sarah I like how you docked him a star for dying before he finished the book, or possibly after he finished the book.


message 8: by Joje (new) - added it

Joje A stupendous personal review, to say the least, and one that touches on my first reaction to the first 140 pages. Despite what seems silly wanderings by 3 of the 4 Germanists, one truly senses that the scale is much larger, but I will put that in my own review. You hardly need to apologize because your eloquent response to the book speaks for its power and matches the effect of many of these greats: Goethe's Faust, Dante, Milton, Claudel's best work, The Odyssey, Don Quichotte, etc. Go for it!


Mark It was originally written as stories and put together as on single offering and that causes the book to be a little disjointed at times.. and then he died.. and then it was translated into English so it was finished but perhaps not smoothed out...


message 10: by Joje (new) - added it

Joje Thanks for the background, Mark.


Jimmy Great review. Especially this part: "One reason why is that I think Bola帽o grasps how the pains of the world are not really so qualitatively different from its pleasures. The way that Bola帽o writes about sex, I guess I'd say (to oversimplify) is not all that different from the way he writes about death."


message 12: by Jennifer (new) - added it

Jennifer Barbee What a great review. I think you just pinned down what attracts me to Bolano's writing - an attraction I could never put into words quite so eloquently. Well done.


Sarah So, I'm way late to this party, but apparently he wasn't finished and they found a 6th part:
Somehow this happened in 2009, and since no one has heard about it I guess the logical conclusion is that it was a false rumor, but logic is so boring.
Does anyone know anything about this?


message 14: by [deleted user] (new)

Jessica, I am just getting ready to start the book with a friend and I wanted the impetus of a strong review. What I found was also a strong life affirmation, a passionate acknowledgment of the fact that we are all driven partly mad by "genocide" on the one side and on the other, o I don't know, this is dumb, "Love." (I know, that's a crude paraphrase, but it's what I got: an unpretentious unmediated summing up of what it means to have live nerve endings. Thanks. I particularly like the section in which you tried to articulate what made you feel that Bolano was "feminist" in the effects of his writing, possibly just in his love for women. I have the same reaction to D.F.Wallace, especially in "Infinite Jest." I'll try to hold onto that as a promise when I start wading into the "massive" mound of pages. Thanks.


Darren Atkinson This is a really brilliant review. Rambling and at times incoherent (in a good way!) but it reminds me of the difficulties in explaining why Bolano "works". There's just something elemental about him that defies explanation to those not in the know.


Sandro Lomitashvili should someone read "Alexandria Quartet" "The Savage Detectives" or any of Sebald's work (or even some other novel) for a better comprehension of 2666?


message 17: by Wayne (new)

Wayne "I also think this book ... is a feminist text"

Ugh. That's enough to keep me away.


Benjy I dunno, man. I thought it was a tonal mess. Paragraph to paragraph, it's a lot of fun and I never wanted to stop reading. But there were too many beatings of immigrants and prostitutes, too many denunciations of "faggots", too many uses of rape/murder as a punchline for me to have fond feelings for this book. And not enough ice cream. I had to read a thousand pages to get to some real deal ice cream action?


message 19: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim I am so grateful for this review. On a 欧宝娱乐 level, i agree about Savage Detectives being better realized. But I've read this review more than a few times now, because it beautifully and painfully presents the human condition and why I love literature. in fact, it's one of the best I've read, which is why i keep coming back to it, like i return to Vassily Grossman's meditation on totalitarianism versus kindness -- it brings me to tears each time i read it.


message 20: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim so thank you


Tommy Great review (Can that Wayne guy immediately vacate all nice spaces please and thankyou )


message 22: by Wayne (new)

Wayne No Tommy, you pathetic simp virgin


Catalin Wayne, i find these reviews impossible to read, i usually skin thru bc for some weird reason goodreads starts with them, and it鈥檚 mostly rambling about identity politics and shit that has no connection to the book i鈥檝e just read.
My advice to you is to ignore this review and read the book. 2666 is a literary master-piece, got me from the first pages and could not leave it till the end. The novel is in fact a collection of novels, remotely connected, very different in style and story, a fictional delirium, and an absolute treat for any reader.


Tommy It what world is a feminist text (which there is very little doubt this is I mean come on) a negative thing. You're stereotyping of liberal politics is sad and detrimental to legitimate progress against heteronomy


Rishika I said something eerily similar about Bola帽o's feminist leanings in my review! Glad to know that there are other people who feel the same. His handling of the subject is way more delicate than what you would expect just by reading the summary.


message 26: by rin (new) - rated it 3 stars

rin Idk why you though this a feminist book, you are lame, but i like you review.


Lynne Love your review! Crikey the novel was tough going at times but I don鈥檛 regret one minute of it and yes to all the contrast of how terrible and wonderful the world can be. I thought he captured it with finesse.


message 28: by Shannon (new)

Shannon Yeah.


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