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Lanny by Max Porter
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it was ok

Update: So as this mess was inexplicably left off the Booker shortlist, my prediction of it winning, is now obsolete... so let's pledge our allegiance to my #12th ranked of all 13 read ... and all hail Girl, Woman, Other!

Spoilers ahead - do not read unless you've already read the book, or don't care about such.

It won't surprise people who know how much I detested Porter's first dull book (and also the execrable and boring Reservoir 13, to which it bears more than a passing resemblance), that this also wasn't my cuppa. I had successfully avoided reading it until it made the Booker longlist, but then, as a completest, I had to succumb.

The incomprehensible verbiage and playful graphics for the beginning Papa Dead Tweewort ... err, Toothwort sections (surely a desperate sign of lack of imagination - 'yeah, it's stupid, but putting it in fanciful font may make people believe something extraordinary is going on here') almost caused me to bail immediately, but I persevered.

Then, still early on, we get 3 or 4 pages of grisly detail of the demented mother ruthlessly killing a poor trapped hedgehog (even though she herself SAYS she could have easily called the RSPCA to rescue it), so once again I nearly abandoned this mess, since animal cruelty is anathema to me. But I figured that even though it was twice as long as Porter's 'Grief is...', this still seemed a fast read, and I could get it over with quickly.

So imagine my glee when towards the end, little Lanny (a 'special' child, another overused trope that makes me throw up a little in my mouth) gets trapped in a sewer grate, comparable to the one his wretched mother decided to make that hedgehog's place of final massacre... and Green Man manqué Papa Dead is standing over it ...and I clapped thinking ...a ha!!! the forces of nature will teach that vile woman a lesson, and Papa will repeatedly stab Lanny into little pieces and flush him down the drain as the mother watches in horror! THAT ending would have made this a 5 star read!! (Or maybe I just need to stop watching movies like Wicker Man and Midsommar!) Alas, we get the safe and expected sentimental gloopy ending.

[Perhaps if Porter had a shred of originality, he would have turned the ending into a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' story - other MUCH better alternative endings: B. Since Mama Jolie writes gruesome murder mysteries, we discover that the whole hedgehog episode was in reality a psychotic breakdown ... and she actually killed Lanny, not a hedgehog, and flushed him down the sewer. C. Porn addicted dad Robert, who never cared about the little bugger anyway, is found to have traded Lanny to white slavers, as half the village suspects, in exchange for a harem girl he keeps locked up in the basement and violates in the company of Papa D. D. Suspected paedo Mad Pete, the only one who cares about Lanny and realizes his parents are total shitheads, ferrets the tyke out of the weird village and gets him adopted by decent folk who enroll him in a prestigious London art school ... and we learn in a coda he grew up and became a success under his adopted name of .... Damian Hirst!]

But fans of this can rejoice that - strictly due to my loathing of it - it will no doubt make the Booker shortlist ... and probably walk away with the prize. :-)
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Reading Progress

March 29, 2019 – Shelved as: to-read
March 29, 2019 – Shelved
July 25, 2019 – Started Reading
July 25, 2019 –
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July 25, 2019 –
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July 25, 2019 –
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July 25, 2019 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Eddie (new) - added it

Eddie Clarke Oh dear, this does sound nasty! The one I’m dreading is 10 Minutes


message 2: by Lark (new)

Lark Benobi hmm, yes, i might be with you on this one


message 3: by Sam (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sam I am smiling at this even though I liked the book.


Doug Sam wrote: "I am smiling at this even though I liked the book."

It's been quite awhile since I've had something worthy that spurred me on to a 2 star takedown review.... but I can always rely on the Bookers to provide.... :-)


Paul Fulcher Hooray - now it is nailed on for the prize :-) I do like the alternative endings. And fascinated what you will make of Ducks, Newburyport which is the one on the list that produces a similar reaction for me.


Doug Paul wrote: "Hooray - now it is nailed on for the prize :-) I do like the alternative endings. And fascinated what you will make of Ducks, Newburyport which is the one on the list that produces a similar reacti..."


Thanx... I try not to disappoint my public! LOL

I'm gonna save Ducks for last, since I am daunted by both the length and that whole 8 sentences in total thing... seems there is no middle ground on that one, so expecting to either love it or loathe it...


Paul Fulcher Porter will be hoping that this has the same effect on his sales as your most famous takedown of all. That is now at over 546,500 copies sold - almost as many as the likes of your review :-)


Doug Yeah, if Burns and Porter had any class, I'd be getting a cut of those profits! :-)


Hugh Sorry you didn't enjoy this one, perhaps it helps to be British.
Re Ducks - that 8 sentences is a nonsense claim by one reviewer that others have repeated! The main monologue is just one sentence but there is a parallel story written in short sections and normal sentences, and it has a lot more than 7 of them.


message 10: by LA (new) - added it

LA What??? As a fellow completist, I’m now terrified that I may be compelled to read the book. Your review, however, is darkly hilarious.


Susie Hilarious review, even though I loved the book!


message 12: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Hugh wrote: "Sorry you didn't enjoy this one, perhaps it helps to be British.
Re Ducks - that 8 sentences is a nonsense claim by one reviewer that others have repeated! The main monologue is just one sentence b..."


Thanx for the clarification/alleviating fears on Ducks... the 1020 pages is STILL a bit daunting, but I had visions of 'Solar Bones' dancing in my head!


message 13: by Hugh (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hugh Doug wrote: "Hugh wrote: "Sorry you didn't enjoy this one, perhaps it helps to be British.
Re Ducks - that 8 sentences is a nonsense claim by one reviewer that others have repeated! The main monologue is just o..."


I'll be pleasantly surprised if you like it!


message 14: by Jia (new)

Jia Chan One down, looking forward to your Ducks review!


message 15: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Hugh wrote: I'll be pleasantly surprised if you like it!

I don't hate EVERYTHING! LOL Since Ducks is set in America and is satirical about our current situation, it might very well appeal...


Meike Whaaaaaat??? I had such high hopes for this one, now I'm confused!!


message 17: by Doug (last edited Jul 26, 2019 01:40PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Meike wrote: "Whaaaaaat??? I had such high hopes for this one, now I'm confused!!"

I am not averse to saying it's 'just me' ... many, MANY people have loved this... if you liked 'Grief is ... ' it's somewhat in a similar vein...


message 18: by Hugh (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hugh I liked this one much more than Grief...


Meike I haven't read "Grief", but "Lanny" is up next in my Bookerthon, so let's see what happens! :-)


LindaJ^ Lanny's a good read, and so is your review Doug!


Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer I hated Grief but absolutely loved this one (having gone in expecting and even wanting to hate it).


message 22: by Doug (last edited Jul 29, 2019 03:57PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug I'll grant it WASN'T as bad as Grief (mainly because you needed to have written a dissertation on Hughes to understand that) ... and I can see it would have some minor appeal to those enamored of the English rustication factor - but I still don't quite get all the love for this (... but then I never figured out the appeal of Burns' book either) - and none of the reviews I've read has cleared up why people are even liking this.

And can ANYONE explain the necessity of four pages of gruesome details of stabbing a hedgehog into tiny pieces and washing it down the drain? Exactly WHAT does that add to the story, except - in my case - making me hate the mother and wishing she would die a similar hideous death?? I lost all sympathy for any of the characters or the book itself from that point on...


message 23: by Meike (last edited Jul 29, 2019 01:41PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Meike Doug wrote: "And can ANYONE explain the necessity of four pages of gruesome details of stabbing a hedgehog into tiny pieces and washing it down the drain?"

Haha, I just read that passage Doug - it's Vuong's monkey, but 2.0! :-) (I still think I will end up liking it, though)


message 24: by June (last edited Jul 29, 2019 01:44PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

June Doug, I enjoyed your review even though I didn't dislike the book as much as you did. I just couldn't see why everyone seems to be so enthralled. The font and "whimsical" layout gave it a distinctly Harry Potter-ish / YA vibe that set my teeth on edge.


message 25: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Meike wrote: "Doug wrote: "And can ANYONE explain the necessity of four pages of gruesome details of stabbing a hedgehog into tiny pieces and washing it down the drain?"

Haha, I just read that passage Doug - it..."


I've always 'pooh-poohed' the idea of putting 'trigger warnings' on books, but after these two, I might change my mind... I'll even print them up: 'WARNING - Gratuitous Animal Torture Ahead'!


CanadianReader I completely agree: the hedgehog scene. I too expected something dire when Lanny fell down the drain—atit for a tat, as it were. It seems, however, that Old Toothwort (in real life, a parasitical plant that sucks nutrients from the roots of trees and is unable to produce chlorophyll) just wanted some of Lanny’s green-ness. I found the whole thing quite precious and silly.


message 27: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Canadian wrote: "I completely agree: the hedgehog scene. I too expected something dire when Lanny fell down the drain—atit for a tat, as it were. It seems, however, that Old Toothwort (in real life, a parasitical p..."

Thanx for the corroboration! Appreciate that!


Vicky Totally agree with this review - the hedgehog scene, the scene where she says Lanny stopped breathing as a baby? - I kept thinking they were leading to a clever ending - but - no.


message 29: by Dan (new) - rated it 3 stars

Dan Gotta love your review, Doug. I don't know if you wrote this before or after your strangely pacific review of Quichotte, but I'm glad that you've returned to form here.


message 30: by Doug (last edited Jan 11, 2020 04:04PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Dan wrote: "Gotta love your review, Doug. I don't know if you wrote this before or after your strangely pacific review of Quichotte, but I'm glad that you've returned to form here."

Lanny was the second of the Booker Dozen I read, and it immediately sank to the bottom of the rankings and I suspect it will stay there. Glad you appreciated my humourous/hostile approach to the review!

Quichotte I read 6th or 7th, but actually LIKED it...it is currently 3rd.... I didn't mind the things that have driven others 'crazee' (to borrow Ellmann's spelling!).


message 31: by Andi (new) - rated it 2 stars

Andi I thought I would love this book but I love your review so much more! Your psychotic breakdown ending would have been brilliant!


message 32: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Bless you! We LIVE for comments like yours! :-)


Embielle Definitely ending B. Lanny was actually a pet hedgehog of the mental case mother. They all went along with it for what it was worth, gave him some crayons to do some art and he wrote Lanny. Probably explains those dumb swirly toothwart things. Hedgehogs can't write straight.


message 34: by Carmel (new)

Carmel Hanes So, what kind of book would draw a "1" from you? :-)


message 35: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug A book has to be pretty much devoid of ANY redeeming features to earn the coveted one star - the only ones from this year are: Gingerbread (Oyeyemi) , Leading Men (Castellani), and Vita Nostra (Dyachenko) - but my most infamous 1 star was awarded to the absolute worst book I've read in the past decade: Milkman!


message 36: by Andi (new) - rated it 2 stars

Andi I read your reviews on a couple of those, Milkman and Gingerbread have been two of my favorite reads this year but I LOVE your reviews!


message 37: by Doug (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Thanx! appreciate the support despite differing opinions! :-)


message 38: by Carmel (last edited Sep 27, 2019 08:38PM) (new)

Carmel Hanes You do make me laugh. I like a person who doesn't believe in riding any fences, but states opinions with gusto!


message 39: by Andi (new) - rated it 2 stars

Andi Me too, and his reviews are awesome! :)


message 40: by Doug (last edited Sep 27, 2019 08:49PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug Ah, shucks guys! [BLUSH]


message 41: by posthuman (last edited Jan 09, 2020 06:00AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

posthuman Loved your review, Doug! Found myself transported by some of the dazzling prose sections and really enjoyed this one, but I agree about the hedgehog. Generally the ending didn't work for me and I was expecting some sort of connection


message 42: by Doug (last edited Jan 11, 2020 04:05PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug I doubt if I would have liked it even without the hedgehog massacre, which was, IMHO, totally superfluous - but that tipped it to the 2 star category for sure.


message 43: by John (last edited Jan 20, 2020 03:59AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

John Paterson And can ANYONE explain the necessity of four pages of gruesome details of stabbing a hedgehog into tiny pieces and washing it down the drain?

Well I only remember it being about 1 1/2 pages at most but evidently longer in your recollection! Also I thought it was unclear whether the hedgehog was meant to be alive at that point, it had stopped moving and making noise suggesting it has drowned.

I guess I took three main points from that passage:

First, it is a manifestation/expression of Jolie's concerns about having a darkness or violence in her thoughts (and, in this passage, her actions) that might 'contaminate' Lanny and his innocence. It's implied many times that Jolie is, at least initially, depressed at living in the village and resentful of Robert being away all day (I think the passage about Lanny not breathing as a baby also implies postnatal depression) and this is classic emotional displacement, an act of rage projected onto the hedgehog.

Second, it is evidence of Jolie's acclimatisation to country life and becoming part of the village. There is a very pronounced attitude in England (and, I presume, in much of the States although possibly not CA!) that part of 'country life' is a pragmatic and unsentimental view of nature which sometimes entails dealing with wildlife practically and in a manner that might seem shocking to, as these thinkers would characterise them, 'city-dwelling liberals'. See the debate around fox-hunting for an obvious example.

Practitioners of this view would defend this as actually being more in-step with the natural world than the disconnected and sentimentalised view of people who are not in contact with nature on a day-to-day basis. Whether this perspective is valid is, of course, moot and I'm not saying everyone who lives in the countryside thinks like this (far from it) but it's definitely a pronounced and widespread mindset in many of the rural population in England and the disconnect between village residents who are seen as transient (like Robert) and those who are part of the village (like Peggy) is a key theme in the book.

That took a long time to explain in writing but I think it's actually quite an intuitive thing to grasp from that passage if you're aware of this mindset. Perhaps why other reviewers have said it helps to be English/British when reading this book! Also, this attitude is relevant to my final point:

Third, although leading on from the first two points, it is an example of the flip side of the beauty/savagery dualism inherent in the natural world that is a common theme in many books about nature. The idea that Toothwort would somehow seek vengeance for this act is, I think, misguided. If anything I think he would appreciate this action as a connection to nature, however cruel and savage it is. Toothwort himself is shown to sometimes be cruel and savage, being the personification of nature (or, at least, man's relation to nature). In the very first page he grabs a crow from the sky and rips its face open.

So anyway, that's what I thought. Intended to write a short reply but turns out I thought more about it than I expected! I enjoyed the book a lot more than you, didn't think its plot and themes ultimately hung together all that well by the end but a number of brilliant sections and passages.


message 44: by Doug (last edited Jan 20, 2020 10:37AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Doug John wrote: "And can ANYONE explain the necessity of four pages of gruesome details of stabbing a hedgehog into tiny pieces and washing it down the drain?

Well I only remember it being about 1 1/2 pages at mos..."


Thanx, John... I really appreciate the time and thought you've put into this, and it DOES (begrudgingly) make a mite more sense to me now - doesn't make me LIKE the book any better, though, and since it's been 6 months since I've read it, it's mercifully all but disappeared from my memory banks! :-)

PS ... I see you are brand new to GR and Lanny is your first book rating here - so welcome! I hope you will get as much out of the site as I do.


Sophy H I was trying to think what this reminds me of and yes, totally it is Reservoir 13!!


Natalie Loved this book AND loved this review, lol.


Sylvia Richardson John is right about the hedgehog bit: reveals a connection with the deathly side of nature in Lanny’s mum, some primal, unsanitized aspect of her that connects her to the land, while Lanny’s dad is in a state of disconnect.


message 48: by Jon (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jon I didn't really connect with the book and I too was confused why the mother mutilated the hedgehog-I thought, maybe in England they are truly reviled pests, whereas here they are cute animals that are also beloved video game/movie characters. I also thought there might be that symbolic ritual death of Lanny, but I wasn't disappointed at all that the child wasn't brutally mutilated. To me it was more interesting exercise than tour de force, but it probably suffered by me having read it right after Klara and the Sun, which is a bona fide masterpiece.


message 49: by Rae (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rae Your alternate endings are priceless! 😄


message 50: by Rae (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rae (I also thought the hedgehog was dead and Lanny's Mum was just trying to clear its corpse from the drain, but agree it was a particularly unpleasant description.)


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