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The Fault in Our Stars
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bookshelves: awesome-parent, beautiful-ending, death, depression, deja-vu, heart-breaking, medical-places, pretentious-writing, eye-rolls-and-frowning, unconvincing-romance, teary
Mar 06, 2012
bookshelves: awesome-parent, beautiful-ending, death, depression, deja-vu, heart-breaking, medical-places, pretentious-writing, eye-rolls-and-frowning, unconvincing-romance, teary
EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL.

You will cry, because this is VERY sad.
So a discussion occurred in my head after I rated the book.
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You will cry, because this is VERY sad.
So a discussion occurred in my head after I rated the book.
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“When you go into the ER, one of the first things they ask you to do is rate your pain on a scale of one to ten, and from there they decide which drugs to use and how quickly to use them. I'd been asked this question hundreds of times over the years, and I remember once early on when I couldn't get my breath and it felt like my chest was on fire, flames licking the inside of my ribs fighting for a way to burn out of my body, my parents took me to the ER. nurse asked me about the pain, and I couldn't even speak, so I held up nine fingers.
Later, after they'd given me something, the nurse came in and she was kind of stroking my head while she took my blood pressure and said, "You know how I know you're a fighter? You called a ten a nine."
But that wasn't quite right. I called it a nine because I was saving my ten. And here it was, the great and terrible ten, slamming me again and again as I lay still and alone in my bed staring at the ceiling, the waves tossing me against the rocks then pulling me back out to sea so they could launch me again into the jagged face of the cliff, leaving me floating faceup on the water, undrowned.”
― The Fault in Our Stars
Later, after they'd given me something, the nurse came in and she was kind of stroking my head while she took my blood pressure and said, "You know how I know you're a fighter? You called a ten a nine."
But that wasn't quite right. I called it a nine because I was saving my ten. And here it was, the great and terrible ten, slamming me again and again as I lay still and alone in my bed staring at the ceiling, the waves tossing me against the rocks then pulling me back out to sea so they could launch me again into the jagged face of the cliff, leaving me floating faceup on the water, undrowned.”
― The Fault in Our Stars
Reading Progress
March 6, 2012
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Started Reading
March 25, 2012
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awesome-parent
March 25, 2012
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beautiful-ending
March 25, 2012
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death
March 25, 2012
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depression
March 25, 2012
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deja-vu
March 25, 2012
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heart-breaking
March 25, 2012
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medical-places
March 25, 2012
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pretentious-writing
March 25, 2012
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Finished Reading
December 29, 2012
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eye-rolls-and-frowning
December 29, 2012
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unconvincing-romance
December 29, 2012
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teary
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VH: It won the GoodReads award for best YA!
Me: So? Fifty Shades won Best Romance.
Hahahaaaahahahahahahahahaaa
LOL I loved this book, but your review just cracked me up. Nice one, Sophia. Very nice review - not to mention highly entertaining.

@Zelda: Thanks :) I tend to be very cautious around cancer books, too. I think this one might annoy you, because the way they dealt with the sickness.. Sometimes I found it insulting to the people who are genuinely sick. They handle it so casually, so sarcastically. It really bothered me.
@Alicia: Hahahhaa I was totally thinking about you when I wrote that part. Thankkks <3
@Sandy: Thank you Sandy!
Perfect review is perfect. I'm so glad someone else is also tired of seeing John Green write another book about himself. It's absolutely insane the amount of fans his books have. So far I've read three, and I liked one, because it was the first (Alaska). I just can't wrap my head around how intense his fandom is, and how huge it is. Maybe his books would have spoken more to me when I was a teenager and totally fatalistic and hated everything, but now that I'm an adult and less full of myself, I just can't stomach another word of his.

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Awesome comment is awesome :) (And Happy New Year, Bekka!!<3) Me too, the only one I've liked was Looking for Alaska, and that was the first one, too. But I do think it's the best so far. What else have you read by him? I read Paper Towns but hated it, and I coudn't finish An abundance of Katherines. You're right, the devotion of the John Green fan community is really disconcerting. I don't get the hype, he's okay but not that good. Overrated IMO.
Sophia. wrote: "Bekka (Pretty Deadly Reviews) wrote: "Perfect review is perfect. I'm so glad someone else is also tired of seeing John Green write another book about himself. It's absolutely insane the amount of..."
I've read this, Alaska, and Will Grayson, Will Grayson. The last I thought was terrible (my rant will be up this week.) I thought it was a pretty gross misrepresentation of not just the LBGT community but also those with depression and other mental illness. >.<
I've read this, Alaska, and Will Grayson, Will Grayson. The last I thought was terrible (my rant will be up this week.) I thought it was a pretty gross misrepresentation of not just the LBGT community but also those with depression and other mental illness. >.<
Also happy new year to you too! <3


I don't really think JG was trying to write an idealized version of himself in Augustus, if anything I think the character that he would put the most of himself into is Van Houten. He has actually said that he thinks he is a mix of Patrick and Van Houten.
Regarding Augustus, Augustus IS pretentious! That's one of his weaknesses. He is obsessed with metaphorical resonance and grand sweeping gestures, to the point where - I think there's a picnic scene where this is especially notable - the gestures can't even be enjoyed anymore because he's trying too hard.
You also said this: "What I want to say is, not every death is glorious. Not every death is epic and not every death will glow like a star in the eternal twilight sky. Most of the time, deaths are random, plain, and the world is cold and uncaring, and that's how it is. And that's what's terrible." This is true, and I think this is reflected in the book. Other parts of it are unrealistic, yes, but I think the way it deals with death is honest. In the book, specifically, (view spoiler)
Thanks for a great review! Hope to have a discussion about this as well.

Sooo. About JG writing an idealized version of himself through Augustus. You're right, he probably identified more with Peter, but I do think that there are traits in Augustus that are fundamentally John Green's. The constant references to movies, for example: I'm pretty sure all those movies are among his favourites. I also read somewhere on a review that Augustus talks the way John Green talks himself. So yeah.
I tend to think that JG (like every author, only with JG it's taken to an extreme) always gives a bit of himself into his male characters (they're nerdy, they fall in love with the pixie girl who I am sure is the idealized carbon copy of the girl John used to love and never managed to conquer when he was a kid).
And with Augustus... You know when sometimes you're reading a book and you can feel that the author is suddenly preaching through the main character's voice? Like suddenly the protagonist is talking shit about how gay marriage is awesome or wrong, or how being a virgin until marriage is great, stuff like that? You know, when it has strictly nothing to do with the story but you can feel that the author couldn't resist and just had to add their two cents? Whenever I spot that, I'm totally turned off. I can't explain it as well as I wish I could, but I totally had that feeling when I read Augustus's lines.
And about Death not being glorious..Hmm... (view spoiler)
And about Augustus being pretentious... Well. There's only so much I can take as a character's "flaw". Him being pretentious doesn't even begin to cover it. He's self obsessed behind any socially acceptable limit. Besides, I kept thinking that in real life, people would slap him, not fall in love with him (that's a horrible thing to say, isn't? The voice in my head is calling me a cold hearted bitch all over again.)

Sooo. About JG writing an idealized version of himself through Augustus. You're right, he probably identified more with Peter, but I do think that there are t..."
I find it completely fascinating how two people can have completely different interpretations of the same combination of 26 letters. It's pretty crazy.
I hear what you're saying, and the point you make about "LOOK HOW TRAGIC IT IS" is a good one. I think it was intended to be tragic, but not epic. The scene where (view spoiler) is heartbreaking, because we've seen this character at their (admittedly forced) best, and now they're at their pathetic worst.
Also this: "I also read somewhere on a review that Augustus talks the way John Green talks himself. So yeah." Does this person know John Green personally? Or is this just from watching Vlogbrothers videos? I've been watching Vlogbrothers videos for a long time (I haven't been recently, though) and I personally don't find that he speaks that way with the constant references and things but that could be because the topics don't allow for it. In my writing, I'm a lot more pretentious than I am when I'm talking with my friends.
Anyway, gonna have to disagree with you again there. When I first read Looking for Alaska I definitely thought the whole thing was self-insertion, maybe I still do. But I don't think the point of it was that the manic pixie dream girl has a tragic end and Pudge is forever changed for having known her. In fact, throughout the whole book Pudge never really knows Alaska--he definitely treats her as this untouchable MPDG--and even the title suggests that. I think there's a quote in Paper Towns where Q says,
What a treacherous thing to believe that a person is more than a person.
Again, Q has built up this idea of Margo Roth Spiegelman so high up in his head that when he finds her and she is not acting as the MPDG anymore, but a real person, he doesn't know what to do with that idea anymore.
I'm not a John Green fangirl - actually I used to be, but as I get older and smarter (well, hopefully smarter), I start to disagree with him more and more, and see flaws in his fanbase and things he does. I do think he means well, though, with things like Crash Course and the Project for Awesome, donating to Kiva, etc., and I do like his books.


Thanks! I friended Sophia after one of these episodes or something so I was conscious of that in commenting. And I really do like her review, I just disagree with it. Besides, if I'm trying to make a point... what would be the point in acting irrational?

I wonder why people do that all of the time. But, really, they aren't trying to make a point, they're basically throwing a tantrum because someone doesn't see a book the way they do.


Sooo. About JG writing an idealized version of himself through Augustus. You're right, he probably identified more with Peter, but I do think ..."
Reut, I'm sorry it took me so long to answer!
I know, interpretation is funny, right? It's so weird because to a certain extent, I agree with what you're saying... But then I still disagree. A little bit :)
So it's totally embarrassing because I can't remember that scene (view spoiler) . I've read the book months ago and I just can't remember.. That makes me wonder if I should re-read it, but I'm so not in the mood for it.
Also, before I forget, kind of unrelated but this is an update from a friend I found from when she was reading TFIOS: "Yeah, I cried, but I felt manipulated into crying." And I just wanted to say that's exactly how I felt. Manipulated. Because of course, I cried like a bitch during the book. Of course I did. The end was horrible. But still, I didn't like to cry (whereas usually I LOVE to cry while reading.)
About JG talking like Augustus, I don't know who said it, it was an Amazon review, that I can say for sure. The girl just said something like "Apparently this is how JG talks in real life, way to be self congratulory." Something like that, but yeah, I don't know where she got that from. I've never really watched his video. (view spoiler)
I don't disagree that much with you about that last part, actually. I loved Looking For Alaska. I don't know if I've already said that, but it was my first JG and I was so surprised, you know? Then the magic faded away when I realized that the "magician" (ha!) was always doing the same trick.
Also I think the whole pixie girl thing worked better in Alaska because, well, (view spoiler) . But that changes with Paper Towns, because he tried to do that again with Margo (I don't know about the publication dates, actually, so I could be wrong) but this time, Margo gets her big speech moment, at the end, where she finally reveals "who she really is" (which Alaska never did). And that's where it didn't work out for me, because it was so... Shallow. Like she kept talking and talking and I was yawning and the only thing I could think of was, "So EMO." Her running away, her thoughts about life.. Everything. She should (view spoiler)
Do I make sense? I hope so. Also, I love that quote from Paper Towns. So accurate.

I think it's interesting that so many of you cried while reading this book, because though I was very sad I did not shed a tear. So I guess I won your dare? I don't know if that makes me a robot?
I have to respectfully disagree with your statement that "NO ONE" talks like that, because as a teenager who has spent time with her peers I have met some remarkably articulate teens. (I do think this is a weakness of Green's writing, however. It was one of the things I noticed while reading the book. But it was mostly the long monologues that irritated me, not the witty banter or metaphors.)
Also, as someone who has watched a lot of the vlogbrothers for a while now it did not even occur to me to compare Augustus to John Green. I tried to imagine John acting like that and I can't see it! I could imagine him saying some of those things about oblivion, though. I don't know, maybe he was more like Augustus as a teenager.
I agree with you that Green has a formula for his books. But I think he broke WAY out of his mold in this book. The characters are still "nerdy" but there is no element of onesidedness to their relationship, which was a really common theme in his other books. I felt like I knew both of them pretty well and neither of them was ~mysterious~ like Alaska. I also don't see his repetition necessarily as a problem because I think he does it at least decently each time around, and it's not like they're in a series and he keeps repeating the same arc. I think he likes writing a certain type of character. If I get tired of that character I'll read books by someone else. (Also, I would not consider them the same characters anyway, because Colin and Augustus are very different, and Hazel, Lindsey, and Alaska are definitely not the same either. I know I identified so much more with Colin than with Q, for example. I can't comment on Margo because I'm not finished with Paper Towns.) This may be just a matter of taste.
Lastly, I would encourage you not to fear nerdfighters! As someone who has encountered some truly ridiculous fans, nerdfighteria is firmly among the chiller and more respectful YA fandoms! :) (I don't think I'd seen true wrath until I'd spent three months in a Tumblr fandom. Which perhaps you have as well? Bonus points if you've critiqued someone's OTP)


Hi Hannah! It's cool, I don't mind. The comment is kinda super long so I'll just put it as a spoiler.
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Oh Aamrah, thank you SO much! Best comment ever.


I can see how Augustus might be a Gary Stu. I'll probably have more thoughts on it when I reread, because the first time I read it I pretty much devoured it and admittedly wasn't thinking very critically!
The more I think about it, the more I realize that I didn't love this book for the characters, because you're right-- they're not that great. I liked them and as far as YA fiction goes, I thought they were well-written; but I think what really made me like the book was the fact that it's kind of a philosophical gold mine and in my experience you don't get that very often with YA. For example, I can't tell you how much I loved the idea of finding an infinity between endpoints-- Hazel and Augustus weren't together for very long, but even after (view spoiler) I think there's a lot a teenager reading this could take away about permanence and what "always" actually means. I know I don't think about permanence the same way anymore-- and that's a good thing. Plus, it's in a completely accessible format; not tough for young people to understand at all.
As a result, though, Augustus and Hazel never felt 100% developed. They were too busy being the backbone of various themes. You pointed out Green's obsession with metaphor and I think a lot of the book itself is a metaphor, or at least a sort of thought experiment.
So I'd say that intellectually this book is delicious, but as a "Cancer Book" it's average, maybe a little better than... In other words, 3 stars (as you rated it). It's good in that it sensitively discusses many ASPECTS of cancer, like pain, weakness and dying young; but not so good in that the actual kids with cancer aren't that well developed. I doubt he intended it to be that way-- he does have experience working with sick kids, after all, and he dedicated it to a nerdfighter who died of cancer-- but alas, that's how it turned out.
(Maybe John Green should write some stuff purely on philosophy. I wouldn't mind seeing some of the things Hazel and Augustus say in a different setting. That's partly why I like his vlog so much.)
(About Hazel being in the hospital for 10 years-- it's actually more like 3. I remember that because I was imagining how horrible it would be to turn 13 and find out you had cancer and have to basically give up a chunk of your life. Come to think of it, that issue should have been given some more time; it would have added depth to Hazel. I almost wonder if there was stuff he cut out to make the book shorter.)
(I object to the idea that geeky people can't be hot! :) ha)
(I agree with é on teenagers being melodramatic. I've seen a number of people complain about a this or that teenage character because they're annoying-- and really all I have to say to that is... unfortunately, teenagers are annoying! :P Also é-- he usually doesn't overdo it like this; I didn't pick up on it as much in Looking for Alaska or An Abundance of Katherines.)
--P.S. I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy Tumblr but I always feel a bit like a drug dealer when I recommend it to friends

I didn't cry while reading this because I refused to be manipulated in that way.
Thanks again.



Smoking unlit cigarettes as a metaphor has to be the most annoying thing I've ever read about.

Ohh cutest comment ever! *HUGS*

Sooo. About JG writing an idealized version of himself through Augustus. You're right, he probably identified more wi..."
This took me RIDICULOUSLY LONG to get back to so I am very sorry about that.
Basically: we have said all there is to say, I think? I'm not completely sold on your viewpoint although I do like some of the points you brought up that definitely influenced my recent rereading of TFiOS, and I hope I did the same for you.
Lovely discussion :)


@rameau: Thank you! Let me know if you ever read it. Chances are you'll like it. The vast majority is so positive towards the book.

@rameau: Thank you! Let me know if you ever read it. Chances are you'll like it. The vast majority is so positive towards the book.

Okay, so many of my friends have been badgering me to read this book but somehow I couldn't bring myself to feel interested even.
And Boy! Ain't I glad I didn't read? Cause NOTHING *using echo effect* turns me off faster than crappy dialogues.
*randomly giggling over bits of the above review*
At the risk of being repetitive *giggles annoyingly some more* I wanna say I frikkin' love your review. ;-)

Okay, so many of my friends have been badgering me to read this book but somehow I couldn't bring myself to feel interested even.
And Boy! Ain't I gla..."
Hahaha thanks Lethal! It's so good to read a comment like yours. *giggles nervously* thanks again <3


And here I thought I was the only one who clearly wasn't as blown away by the book as the rest of the world was. While I liked some parts of it, I have to admit the rest of it was a drag.
I loved your review of it as I had very similar thoughts about the characters and the way they spoke...

Yes, I was one of the 5-star reviewers. This review made me sad because I wanted everyone else to love this book as much as I did. I know that's not how it works because there are plenty of books that I hated that so many others loved, and vice versa, but I can't help it. It's how I am, as a reader. I want everyone to love the books I love because it's such a wonderful feeling to love these books. But I digress. Bravo, on a wonderful review. I enjoyed it. Sort of. You know what I mean.
-Emily


One of those days, eh, Sophia? That's how many in only a couple of hours? I'm obviously following too many of your reviews. (view spoiler) ["br"]>["br"]>