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THANK YOU Lauren!
i actually read the book later than most people&& i wondered if i was reading the same books my friends did... thats the only thing that kept me reading untill the end, they seemed to be so pleased with it i thought it must be some kind of lousy begining and it was going to pick up

im so excited to see the movie!!!

the book seemed like it was written for a movie, you know its just going to be so perfect.

But i dont think they are going to make anymore movies because their is nothing too New moon really or Breaking dawn+ THAT would be kind of... rated R. What do you think?

This is exactly how I felt when I read the book. It was as if I waited the whole time for something big to happen and NOTHING happened! Everything just happened so easily and everyone was happy. I hated it and it ruined the series for me, too. Stephenie Meyer doesn't deserve to be a well known author for that piece of......it's not even real literature. She just took ideas from everything else and used as many pop culture references as possible and tried to pretend to be a good author. It didn't work.

the worst thought was it kept making you think that WHOLE scene oh finally thers going to be a battle!


its like wtf... they all just randomly walk away.


????it didnt make the slightest bit of sense to me...

&&its such a change. because honestly i didnt notice anything wrong with Twilight the first book. i know some other people did but i thought it was FANTASTIC

I'm not a big fan of the twilight books but I do slightly disagree with this review.

I found breaking dawn entertaining, I certainly dont read a books about Vampires or any kind to get my examples of what "good morals" are. It had action, most of which is stupid but that should be expected from twilight book and it gave the character who had deserved it, jacob, the happy ending he deserved. Also putting a section in Jacob's perspective in a way shattered this perfect being that Bella had made Edward out to be, which I also enjoyed.

And I'm shocked that fans are so suprised about the lack of events in this book! It's stephenie meyer! she's not going to pull some great literary work out of her ass for the perfect ending. Everyone should have expected that.

PLUS, Stephenie knew she was going to piss off people HOWEVER she wrote the book and I think she wrote the story she wanted to hear. Is that really such a horrible thing?

I completely agree with you Lauren.

The last book was far too impractical. I was very dissapointed with the ending. Infact I'm surprised I even made it to the ending. I got very bored of reading it after a while and almost just put it down. But I kept hoping that something would happen. Nope, "Oh hey she's not really a vampire baby? Okay, bye then. Have fun with your immortal happy no problem lives."

I really don't see why so many people are getting so worked up over the entire series eaither. Its not like its the best book series that has ever been published ont he planet. Sure when you read Twilight you where excited and it was good. So the whole plot and characters seemed pretty darn cool back then. But as the books progressed things just got way out of hand. She could have very well cut the series off on the third book and avoided looking like a huge literary retard.

I completely agree.
I think Stephenie Meyer was so rushed and felt so constricted by that deadline that she let the pressure get to her and came up with a half-ass version of what the book should have been. I mean....what was the point of even putting the wedding in the book if she was going to rush right through it in a page...when the egagement got two books and a whole chapter.

I'm a twilight fan.
...just not a Breaking Dawn fan.

Thank you so much for writing this. It needed to be said. Honestly.

Everything grew worse in Breaking Dawn instead of coming together. Stephenie Meyer could have turned everything around, she could have written something groundbreaking, and something real despite it being a book about vampires and werewolves. She could have inserted some dynamic-ness into the characters that was lacking in the other books. She could have given a POINT to the series, or at least a good point. But instead she wrote a sub-par, shouldn't-even-be-published book.

Her books are not a step up for women. I'm not going to go as far to say that she's a disgrace to women everywhere, but I'm just going to say that I'm disappointed with the viewpoints Breaking Down, and really all of the others, stressed.

And you #4! Oh goodness, I could talk about this for ages, but I'll try not to. The fact that Bella did NOTHING to overcome her obstacles makes the book a near-pointless read. It's like "Oh, hi, please read this book in which there's a conflict but the main character doesn't do anything about it'. Why is that a good read? It isn't. And I think it's awful that Stephenie Meyer is basically showing that things always work out on their own or by your hawtvampire. Her books don't encourage young readers to be strong and independent; they encourage them to settle in and be quiet and wait.

Blurg. Anyways. I'm probably rambling, but this is always a fun topic, isn't it?
Again, thanks for writing this review. You have good thoughts in your head!

I have to agree with you on these things. In fact, on everything. Breaking Dawn was definitely a disappointment and while the first three books captivated me despite their poor grammar, BD just fell flat. I actually stopped reading it and started skimming it and while I told myself I would go back and read it again, I just can't bring myself to even it pick it up off my shelf let alone re-digest the poor plot. I'm not sure if I'm going to see the movie, the previews just don't get me excited. :/

I agree so much with all of this! I admit that I liked the first three books and they helped me through a lot of shit that was going on in my life last year, but once I read Breaking Dawn, the ridiculousness of it all become glaringly apparent to me. Bella is a Mary Sue and her obsessive relationship with Edward is not healthy. Cutting my breaks and keeping me away from my friends is not a sign of love, thats a little abusive. And the Leah thing pisses me off to no end. Why does Smeyer punish her so much? I also don't appreciate her glorifying teen marriage and pregnancy and making it seem so ridiculously easy. Do Edward and Bella even take care of that baby or did they just hand her off to her pedophile werewolf. There is so much about these books that is just so upsetting to me. And did anyone else think that E and B's relationship changed after she became a vamp? All they cared about was sex. I made myself read BD in one sitting, because if I put it down, I never would have picked it back up.

Oh and I saw this article early and think you might appreciate it!

"Twilight, the movie, comes out this week. It is based upon the bestselling novel by Stephenie Meyer, and, like the book, is said by many to be the "next Harry Potter," meaning it is the first young-reader book series to come close to the astronomical sales of J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. (Meyer still has a lot of catching up to do, having sold "just" 17 million books worldwide, compared to Rowling's 400 million.)

While both sets of books deal with children and their adventures with the supernatural, that is where the similarities end.


Potter is aimed at a slightly younger demographic (9 to 12) and is loved by boys and girls alike; Twilight appeals mostly to older girls (14 to 19) and their sexually frustrated mothers.

The most startling difference between Twilight and Potter, however, is not dempgraphical; it is ideological. Put simply, Rowling and Potter live on the left; Meyer and Edward dwell on the right.

Both sets of books are popular in the United States, but for drastically different reasons, however subconsciously those reasons may reside. Just as the nation continues to more or less fracture into the red and the blue, the fundamentalist and the forward-thinking, so too does the world of children's literature.

In the character of Harry Potter, and in the characters of his friends, teachers and associates, Rowling has created an essentially progressive universe where people and wizards are good and kind by nature. Here, compassion and goodness are the norm, and students are taught to be ever-watchful for those few among them who make the unusual and shocking choice to be bad.

Harry is a goofy, bespectacled everyman, a reluctant geek of a hero who is out for the collective good of his community. He is champion of the little guy, the discriminated against, and the outcast. He basks little -- if at all -- in his own glory, and often shrinks from attention. He is frequently aided by animals and nature, because he is a respectful part of the natural world, which is perfect and loving.

By contrast, the lead male character in the Twilight series is Edward, a "vegetarian" vampire. Edward is heroic not because he is good by nature, but rather because he makes the choice to be good, against all his "natural" instincts. In this way, Twilight is the ideological polar opposite of Potter.

Edward, like all vampires, is by nature sinful - a human-killer. But with incredible effort and an endless thirst, he manages to live off the blood of "inferior" animals, a nod both to the Bible and to the assumed superiority of human beings in the natural order. In the Twilight universe, as in many fundamentalist religions, the default state of the soul is to be sinful, and the challenge of its characters is to be led not into temptation. To be saved from their evil natures.

Both books deal with the notion of heredity and ancestry, but they treat it very differently. In the Twilight books, fate is determined by birthright. In the Potter books, birthright is presented as purely a social construct designed to oppress. Think Jacob and the Native American werewolves in Twilight, doomed to their fate through blood ties, versus Hermione and the other 'half bloods' or children of 'muggles' at Hogwarts, who are continually shown to be deserving of their place at the school in spite of elitist snobbery from Malfoy et al.

No surprise, then, that Rowling herself is a progressive. She was a single mother when she wrote the first Potter book, living on welfare. Now estimated to be worth $1.1 billion, she gives massively to progressive causes the world over. No surprise, either, that her books terrify Christian fundamentalists. Potter books have been banned by many far-right Christian groups.

Meyer, by contrast, is a devout Mormon, a graduate of Brigham Young University who says on her Web site that her religion colors everything she writes. She describes herself as "very religious," and her series ends with the female protagonist, all of 18, marrying Edward, becoming a vampire, and bearing his monster child.

There are many examples of Mormon theology flooding Meyer's work, some of it racist against Native Americans, Latin Americans and anyone with dark skin, much of it sexist in the sense that Bella does not exist but to love Edward. (Meyer's adult novel, The Host, is essentially a retelling of the Book of Mormon, set against a sci-fi backdrop.) The constant criticism the Twilight books have received is that Bella is not much of a character; there is no core to her, other than her adjective-laden obsession with the vampire.

By contrast, the main female character in the Potter books is painted as the smartest pupil in school, devoted to her studies, assertive and opinionated; again and again Hermione is said to be the brightest witch of her generation, destined for greatness. It is unthinkable that Hermoine would go the Meyer route, and drop out of school to marry Ron and bear his child at 18.

It will be interesting to see which book and series, and which ideology, comes out on top.

At the moment, US bestseller lists are enormously dominated by Meyer. The movie will certainly help push the books more. However, as of this writing, Obama is our next president, and Rowling is still far out ahead.

But as every good wizard or progressive knows, we must be ever-watchful for that to change."

I've tried to write this comment about eight times, but I really can't do it without creating some incoherent string of expletives and curses on Stephenie Meyer. Twilight embarrasses me as a woman because I find it to be so misogynistic in SO many ways. It embarrasses me as a Buffy fan because she rewrote every rule there is about vampires, and Angel could kick Edward's pale ass any day. And it embarrasses me as someone with a basic grasp of the English language, because Stephenie Meyer's writing could not be more flat, cliche, and (like you said, Lauren) occasionally grammatically incorrect. I'm not saying I'm Ernest Hemingway or anything, but you'd think that, in a world where JK Rowling almost didn't get published, it would be a lot harder to get a book this crappy out on the market. I think I would rather be forced to re-read James Fenimore Cooper novels for the rest of my life than ever have to hear about this book again.

its so obvious that twilight was created from a dream. its as if she just took what she had in her dream and decided her work here was done.

and dont forget about the 100 or so age gap between bella and edward (and the way he is still hanging around highschools and falling in love with teenagers). i find that sick. it makes Jacob's 15 year love gap look tame.

I kind of agree on a lot of the moral things, but honestly they don't really make the book much less interesting or entertaining to me.

Although I think you're maybe taking it a bit too seriously, cause personally I never saw the book as all that realistic or something to get great morals from anyway. But there are some pretty interesting ideas presented in the series.

I still think the series and the last book in particular (which is my favorite) is a great read.

It has some pretty sketchy moral decisions in it, but then again so does almost every book I've ever read in some ways. (don't even get me started on tv shows lol)

That's one thing what makes reading interesting, to see different points of view presented in various scenarios.

But I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, I just see it differently. :-)

Oh about the lack of action, I noticed that after the second book in the series so I wasn't really surprised.

It seems to me that in pretty much every book she builds up to a big confrontation and then finds a way to either not show it or get out of it without much happening.

That's actually been my only real complaint with the series.

I agree that Breaking Dawn was ridiculous and not a good ending to the series. Personally I think that Stephenie Meyer didn't completely think though everything she was writing, there were a lot of things that really didn't make sense to me. But I still like the twilight series, I didn't let one book ruin that for me.

wtf

I have to things you really should learn.

1.Have some respect. This is the way Stephenie ended it.
2.This book is a thing called FICTION. That means it's not really.

Understand?

I know it's your opinion,but seriously respect what the author says or writes.

I applaud who posted the article above. I truly despise Rowling vs Meyer comparisons, even more so when Meyer comes out on top. JK Rowling spent five entire years plotting Harry Potter and devising a sophisticated world of magic before setting pen to paper. In those five years she outlined plots for her entire series. Her dedication to her planning gave her the blueprint to what we now know as the world's best-selling series. It didn't matter that JK Rowling was not as skilled a writer as many of her contemporaries (she has been criticized for an over-use of adverbs and other apparent "crimes of sentence-structure" throughout her career), her plot was solid, her characters were three-dimensional, and she never once strayed from her main message.

Stephenie Meyer, on the other hand, seems to have thrown her plot together over a matter of months. Breaking Dawn stinks of "eau de first-draft", and, as Lauren perfectly illustrates, the morals of the series suggests something akin to the views of men in the 1920s. However, I do not think Meyer deliberately set out to convey these rather negative morals. Personally, I reckon Meyer merely prioritised entertainment over a resounding final message, something which could have provided her with a spine to this sloppy piece of literature. To me, Breaking Dawn is a string of sentences containing empty words (Which is a shame, because I actually liked the first three books, though my enthusiasm did begin to die book after book).

I hardly think that "Women only live for marriage, sex and baby-making" can be seriously compared to "Our ability to love, in the end, shall conquer evil."

The first three books in the series jumped the niche in the fantasy-series market after the Harry Potter series had finished. We needed something to read that was equally as phenomenal, and we hoped that Twilight would provide us with the cure to our Potter-withdrawl symptoms. The Twilight series is not, and never will be "The next-Harry Potter". For that we must wait until another author as skilled as JK Rowling appears in the literary world, with a magical world which we can truly sink our teeth into without having to question the logistics of.

Until then, why not read the literature of a certain genius called John Green?

I have two things you should really learn, Hannah.

1. The word is "two". Not "to".
2. I have an enormous amount of respect for Stephenie Meyer and everyone who spends that much time writing and developing a world like the one that exists in Twilight. There are just quite a few things I disagree with that she brings up in her book and therefore, I did not enjoy reading it. I respect that she wanted it to end that way and I respect that other people do like it. Her literary choices just happened to ruin the entire series for me, which I explain above.

this is 100% and cmpletely true. If the first book was as crappy and ridickulus as this one no one would care who the hell edward cullen was.I love Twilight, I really do I could read it again and again but the other three are just plain crap. I read it all the way through to see what made it "My favorite" all the way to the end I thought something will happen that will make me love it! Nothing did. It was a huge waste of my time. You're sooo right about the morals. Don't worry Edward will make it better! Don't worry! Don't DO ANYTHING! And something I hated about the whole seris, the characters had no DEPTH! Alice and Jacob were the most realistic and they're not even main charaters. The messages were horrid. Thousands of young children, girls are reading this and it sends a horrible message to them. I am not telling Meyer that she should have wrote it diffferently because that's her right. I just didn't like it. Now I and going to shut up before I go on an even longer rant.

i agree...i really liked the first three books but the last one sort of let me down.
breaking dawn wasnt that bad but the ending was just stupid..sure it wouldve been sad if someone died but she built up suspense for nothing,neither the bad guys or good guys won. There wasnt even an agreement, grudges were still held-very dissapointing...i dont see this one being made into a movie=[

This is the reason i refuse to pick these books up, i just can't picture myself actually enjoying that kind of writing. I understand that it is fun reading but when I read reviews like this one it feel like looking into the future and seeing how i will feel exactly. lol.

ps. i think everyone should check out this poll

and read all the comments from other characters its really entertaining.

haha, oh so true Lauren! also adding on to the pedophilia issue, am I the only one who thinks it's kind of creepy that Edward is like a hundred years older than bella? I mean, sure he LOOKS like a teenager, but technically, he's old. Also, it drives me INSANE how obsessed people are with these books that are okay (with the exception of breaking dawn)when they clearly pale in comparison to amazing books such at Looking For Alaska by John Green , An Abundance of Katherines by John Green , Let it Snow by John Green, Maureen Johnson, and Lauren Myracle, and Paper Towns by John Green!

Amen Lauren.

Though I did not love the first three either, they were still pretty decent reads, but Breaking Dawn just spoiled it all. I hated the "twists", I hated all the buildup towards nothing which brings me to, I hated the ending. I was expecting faries and unicorns and rainbows to come out at the end because everything ended up way too freaking perfect and unfairly unrealistic.

I never really liked this book too.
i didn't like how everything was just so easy and stuff.

so i agree.
but, i don't hate the series. I just hate this book.
and i so wish Stephenie could just like rewrite it or something.

What you have just written would be valid points to ME if I went into breaking dawn with the intention of thinking about morals. But that is not why I read it. I read it purely for a fun and dead easy read. A book that I would not have to particularly think about, and I new from the previous books in the series that, that was what I would be getting. So from the morals point of view, who cares, it’s just a book, it’s not real. Though I guess it could give some people the wrong ideas. (I’m aware that my sentences are all jumbled and I’m sorry about that, I’ve never written a reply to a review before).
As to the ending, I agree with you completely. It was a complete and utter let down. There was such I big build up but then nothing happened, It felt as if she (Stephanie Meyer) didn’t want anyone to get hurt (or die) therefore the battle just couldn’t happen, It was too risky and too many fans of the books would hate something terrible happening.
So yes. As to the morals, who cares? As to the ending, it sucked. But all in all I enjoyed the book purely for the entertainment factor and not for anything intellectual.

Well, finally. Someone agrees with me and doesn't snap at me when I try to tell them exactly what you have said. Thanks. Haha.

However, I didn't like the other books much either. Twilight was awesome.. but after that? It just went downhill. Bella just wasn't the strong female lead she was made out to be. Everything she did just made me angrier and angrier.

I wasn't exactly a fan of Breaking Dawn either even though I loved the first 3 books. However, it didn't disappoint me because I knew going into it that anything could happen in the book. I mean c'mon the fact that everything worked out didn't surprise me in the least. You're reading a book about vampires for crying out loud, which don't exist anyway, so to be upset that everything just "works out" shouldn't be a shocker. Nothing in the book is real so it shouldn't be surprising that Bella doesn't have to deal with any "real life" problems. I don't know, it wasn't my favorite but I enjoyed it.

I agree with you Liza, it's just a book, it's not real. I love happy endings so the ending to the book didn't bother me. I do agree with you though, I wish that the book took a different turn. The Cullens spent the last 1/4 of the book worrying about the Volturi and then nothing even happened!

I agree. I enjoyed the first three despite their crappiness, but Breaking Dawn was absolutely ridiculous, and I hated how Bella had to do absolutely nothing, yet all her conflicts were resolved.

Ahh! I so agree with you!
I mean, I was kind of hoping the Voultri would just leave, but that's because I didn't really care, and didn't expect the to just leave anyway.
But they DID!
I mean, I just finished it a few days ago, and I got it at the Release party.
I was seriously that unfocused.
I kept complaining to my brother:
"OH MY GOD! That was the worst book ending EVER! They just spend like, 80 pages talking about them standing in the clearing, talking about this vamp-human hybrid and how it's illegal, and the they just LEFT!"
But yeah. I want to see Twilight anyway because, well, I must.
And like you said, the morals are just totally wrong. Like, people say that Harry Potter is bad because it's all about witchcraft (which, by the way, is extremely irritating) when really i has these great messages, and it's fantastic literature. But Twilight is crappy literature and... well you said all the rest!

I personally like the Twilight series.. but Breaking Dawn was a disappointment. I never really knew what about it that I didn't like.. until I read your review and realized, "Hey! That's exactly how I felt about it!"

Lauren ... you are completely right! I always thought the twilight books were the best... but it first started when Kristina made a comment in one of her videos about how Edward has no personality .. and I reread Eclipse and realized what she was talking about. Now when you made you excellent moral points, I GET what you are talking about.. Breaking Dawn was absolutely horrible and I don't understand how many people pretty much worship the series. SO thank you for not being afraid of posting this even though there are a lot of people out there who would be appalled at what you had to say. So THANK YOU for saying it, because someone had too :)

-Haley

Breaking Dawn is a terrible book, a terrible ending and sending out terrible messages. With the Harry Potter comparisons, I agree. its quite ironic that Harry Potter is shunned by Christian hypocrites, while Twilight has not been criticised much, despite being popular in the seller lists and written by a Mormon, too true.

I agree totally with your review Lauren, its sick, escpecially with the imprinting and a monster child. Urgh. If the child had some personality other than being perfecty perfect, maybe I'd have been less grossed out. One of the most poorly written series', though the first book isn't bad.

Really, the series and its author don't deserve the fame and money. Shows you how unfair live is.

(ps, I don't have anything against Christian groups, I was in fact in one of them, despite not being one)

You are so very very right. The ending was such a cope out and on a different subject ,isn't Edward like 100 years older than bella so it's like she's married to an old man in a way so creepy right!

A brilliant, well said review.